Are your shocks long enough?

Warren Quin wrote:
> 2 Months, 2 bar pin clips and I'm ready to kill. What all does everybody
> with these shocks do about the clips failing? I'm considering getting the
> clips put back on and welding some kind of stop to the bar or a stack of
> washers or something...
>
> Anybody else have this problem?
>
> Thanx
>
>

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03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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Are your shocks long enough?

Warren Quin wrote:
> 2 Months, 2 bar pin clips and I'm ready to kill. What all does everybody
> with these shocks do about the clips failing? I'm considering getting the
> clips put back on and welding some kind of stop to the bar or a stack of
> washers or something...
>
> Anybody else have this problem?
>
> Thanx
>
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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Are your shocks long enough?

Warren Quin wrote:
> 2 Months, 2 bar pin clips and I'm ready to kill. What all does everybody
> with these shocks do about the clips failing? I'm considering getting the
> clips put back on and welding some kind of stop to the bar or a stack of
> washers or something...
>
> Anybody else have this problem?
>
> Thanx
>
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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Sorry about that. My signature seems to have disappeared.. And I was a
little ticked...

2000 TJ. 2 inch OME HD springs. Probably 2.5 inches of total lift. Maybe 3
in the back when I have the Hardtop, doors and rear seat out. I used the HD
because I have a hitch front and rear to accomodate a homemade rack for a
canoe, with bike rack and drawbar extension for my Iltsis trailer. Makes the
back kind of heavy when loaded. It sits nice and level when under load.

No serious offroading anymore. Daily driver off to the camp etc. These
appear to pop off under daily street driving.

Rear OME shocks. Either N66 or N67 (don't remember which shock was front or
back). They use a clip to center the shock on a bar that bolts to the frame.
I assume that factory shocks did as well but they never broke loose
(repeatedly). Since yesterday I've discovered that there are bar pin
eliminators to aliviate this but that they don't work with the OME shocks
without changing the bushings. Far as I can see expensive shocks, crap for a
design.

I guess I will have to weld some kind of sleeve or stop to the bars to
support the clips.

If anybody knows a better way...

Tahnx

"Warren Quin" <wquin@bigfoot.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:N2Kzc.59105$Np3.2672162@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> 2 Months, 2 bar pin clips and I'm ready to kill. What all does everybody
> with these shocks do about the clips failing? I'm considering getting the
> clips put back on and welding some kind of stop to the bar or a stack of
> washers or something...
>
> Anybody else have this problem?
>
> Thanx
>
>

 

Sorry about that. My signature seems to have disappeared.. And I was a
little ticked...

2000 TJ. 2 inch OME HD springs. Probably 2.5 inches of total lift. Maybe 3
in the back when I have the Hardtop, doors and rear seat out. I used the HD
because I have a hitch front and rear to accomodate a homemade rack for a
canoe, with bike rack and drawbar extension for my Iltsis trailer. Makes the
back kind of heavy when loaded. It sits nice and level when under load.

No serious offroading anymore. Daily driver off to the camp etc. These
appear to pop off under daily street driving.

Rear OME shocks. Either N66 or N67 (don't remember which shock was front or
back). They use a clip to center the shock on a bar that bolts to the frame.
I assume that factory shocks did as well but they never broke loose
(repeatedly). Since yesterday I've discovered that there are bar pin
eliminators to aliviate this but that they don't work with the OME shocks
without changing the bushings. Far as I can see expensive shocks, crap for a
design.

I guess I will have to weld some kind of sleeve or stop to the bars to
support the clips.

If anybody knows a better way...

Tahnx

"Warren Quin" <wquin@bigfoot.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:N2Kzc.59105$Np3.2672162@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> 2 Months, 2 bar pin clips and I'm ready to kill. What all does everybody
> with these shocks do about the clips failing? I'm considering getting the
> clips put back on and welding some kind of stop to the bar or a stack of
> washers or something...
>
> Anybody else have this problem?
>
> Thanx
>
>

 

Sorry about that. My signature seems to have disappeared.. And I was a
little ticked...

2000 TJ. 2 inch OME HD springs. Probably 2.5 inches of total lift. Maybe 3
in the back when I have the Hardtop, doors and rear seat out. I used the HD
because I have a hitch front and rear to accomodate a homemade rack for a
canoe, with bike rack and drawbar extension for my Iltsis trailer. Makes the
back kind of heavy when loaded. It sits nice and level when under load.

No serious offroading anymore. Daily driver off to the camp etc. These
appear to pop off under daily street driving.

Rear OME shocks. Either N66 or N67 (don't remember which shock was front or
back). They use a clip to center the shock on a bar that bolts to the frame.
I assume that factory shocks did as well but they never broke loose
(repeatedly). Since yesterday I've discovered that there are bar pin
eliminators to aliviate this but that they don't work with the OME shocks
without changing the bushings. Far as I can see expensive shocks, crap for a
design.

I guess I will have to weld some kind of sleeve or stop to the bars to
support the clips.

If anybody knows a better way...

Tahnx

"Warren Quin" <wquin@bigfoot.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:N2Kzc.59105$Np3.2672162@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> 2 Months, 2 bar pin clips and I'm ready to kill. What all does everybody
> with these shocks do about the clips failing? I'm considering getting the
> clips put back on and welding some kind of stop to the bar or a stack of
> washers or something...
>
> Anybody else have this problem?
>
> Thanx
>
>

 

Sorry about that. My signature seems to have disappeared.. And I was a
little ticked...

2000 TJ. 2 inch OME HD springs. Probably 2.5 inches of total lift. Maybe 3
in the back when I have the Hardtop, doors and rear seat out. I used the HD
because I have a hitch front and rear to accomodate a homemade rack for a
canoe, with bike rack and drawbar extension for my Iltsis trailer. Makes the
back kind of heavy when loaded. It sits nice and level when under load.

No serious offroading anymore. Daily driver off to the camp etc. These
appear to pop off under daily street driving.

Rear OME shocks. Either N66 or N67 (don't remember which shock was front or
back). They use a clip to center the shock on a bar that bolts to the frame.
I assume that factory shocks did as well but they never broke loose
(repeatedly). Since yesterday I've discovered that there are bar pin
eliminators to aliviate this but that they don't work with the OME shocks
without changing the bushings. Far as I can see expensive shocks, crap for a
design.

I guess I will have to weld some kind of sleeve or stop to the bars to
support the clips.

If anybody knows a better way...

Tahnx

"Warren Quin" <wquin@bigfoot.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:N2Kzc.59105$Np3.2672162@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> 2 Months, 2 bar pin clips and I'm ready to kill. What all does everybody
> with these shocks do about the clips failing? I'm considering getting the
> clips put back on and welding some kind of stop to the bar or a stack of
> washers or something...
>
> Anybody else have this problem?
>
> Thanx
>
>

 

Hi Warren,

Your circle clips were not installed properly. When you install the clip
you have to be certain that it is fully seated in the groove before
releasing lateral compression on the washer and bushing. This can be
tricky. Also, when compressing the bushing to fit the clip, make sure
the clip is not inadvertently bent. A bent clip may not seat properly.
An insufficiently seated clip will eventually pop out of the groove.

http://www.quadratec.com/pdf/ome/tj_fitting.pdf
http://www.wanderingtrail.com/Buildu...on_express.htm

Do your best to get your circle clip back on correctly. If you still
don't trust it, tack-weld the washer to the pin.

My XJ has 20,000 km on OME shocks. Daily driver and lots of abusive
trail riding. No problems with the retaining clips or the bar pins in
general.

Steve

Warren Quin wrote:
> 2 Months, 2 bar pin clips and I'm ready to kill. What all does everybody
> with these shocks do about the clips failing? I'm considering getting the
> clips put back on and welding some kind of stop to the bar or a stack of
> washers or something...
>
> Anybody else have this problem?
>
> Thanx

 

Hi Warren,

Your circle clips were not installed properly. When you install the clip
you have to be certain that it is fully seated in the groove before
releasing lateral compression on the washer and bushing. This can be
tricky. Also, when compressing the bushing to fit the clip, make sure
the clip is not inadvertently bent. A bent clip may not seat properly.
An insufficiently seated clip will eventually pop out of the groove.

http://www.quadratec.com/pdf/ome/tj_fitting.pdf
http://www.wanderingtrail.com/Buildu...on_express.htm

Do your best to get your circle clip back on correctly. If you still
don't trust it, tack-weld the washer to the pin.

My XJ has 20,000 km on OME shocks. Daily driver and lots of abusive
trail riding. No problems with the retaining clips or the bar pins in
general.

Steve

Warren Quin wrote:
> 2 Months, 2 bar pin clips and I'm ready to kill. What all does everybody
> with these shocks do about the clips failing? I'm considering getting the
> clips put back on and welding some kind of stop to the bar or a stack of
> washers or something...
>
> Anybody else have this problem?
>
> Thanx

 

Hi Warren,

Your circle clips were not installed properly. When you install the clip
you have to be certain that it is fully seated in the groove before
releasing lateral compression on the washer and bushing. This can be
tricky. Also, when compressing the bushing to fit the clip, make sure
the clip is not inadvertently bent. A bent clip may not seat properly.
An insufficiently seated clip will eventually pop out of the groove.

http://www.quadratec.com/pdf/ome/tj_fitting.pdf
http://www.wanderingtrail.com/Buildu...on_express.htm

Do your best to get your circle clip back on correctly. If you still
don't trust it, tack-weld the washer to the pin.

My XJ has 20,000 km on OME shocks. Daily driver and lots of abusive
trail riding. No problems with the retaining clips or the bar pins in
general.

Steve

Warren Quin wrote:
> 2 Months, 2 bar pin clips and I'm ready to kill. What all does everybody
> with these shocks do about the clips failing? I'm considering getting the
> clips put back on and welding some kind of stop to the bar or a stack of
> washers or something...
>
> Anybody else have this problem?
>
> Thanx