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Nick N 12-04-2003 05:39 PM

Ok, i am reporting like mad dog
 
Following is my cut and past to and abuse@ for the also email crazy Daniel
J. Stern
Nick





Dear abuse@umich.com For the past 2 months we have been having severe
problems on rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys with off topic crossposting which
is a violation of the newsgroups charter.
ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announc...rs.jeep+willys
The hundreds of (now numbering thousands) of posts were originally started
by a Lloyd Parker of emory university. The man has continually harrased our
newsgroup and many others with his crossposts and work is being done to stop
his harrasment (see below)
------------------------------------------------------------------
Nathan,
I understand your impatience on this issue, but we have been working on it.
I have turned it our to our General Counsel's office to handle. I will let
you know more info as I have it. Could you please let the other people in
your group know about what is happening as well?
Thanks, Jay
________________________
Jay D. Flanagan
Security, Team Lead
ITD Technical Services
Emory University
Email: jflanag@emory.edu
Phone: 404-727-4962
Fax: 404-727-3246
----- Original Message -----
From: Nathan Collier
To: abuse@emory.edu
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:17 AM
Subject: Fw: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about
safety canbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)


dear sir,
i contacted you yesterday concerning professor lloyd parker using your
servers to violate the charter of our newsgroup
rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys. he has posted over a dozen political
messages
this morning alone in our jeep newsgroup. if you are unable to stop him,
could you please put me in contact with someone who can? i understand mr.
parker is a respected professor at your college but that means nothing to
me, the jeep newsgroup that he is harassing with his vile political
beliefs,
and certainly not to emory colleges bandwidth provider. if he cannot
respect our newsgroup charter he has no business posting and i highly
doubt
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------

We at the newsgroup have numerous times asked that the persons continuing
the posts to please stop but we usually get some kindof foul mouth language
replies. We are now working on taking this past only the problem of Lloyd
parker but the many people who keep the thread alive even with numurous
request to stop. One of your clients a Daniel J. Stern (among others) is
one of the continued violators. The topic "global warming, a liberal scam"
has been the continued violating subject matter of literally thousands of
crossposts clogging our newsgroup.
See http://tinyurl.com/xryy or even http://tinyurl.com/xrz7 for a bigger
picture (note the 57 THOUSAND messages).
As you'll see from Dan Sterns headers below these messages are going out to
6 different newsgroups. Since we cannot seem to get a simple request to
please stop, can you please help us out in this matter?
Nick


On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Steve wrote:

> Dan, living in America without medical coverage is stupid.


....and for a great many people, unavoidable.

> Decent health care is affordable here,


Perhaps that's the happy case where you live. It is far from universally
so, however. The fact remains there are a great many people in America who
do not have medical coverage. Not because they stupidly choose not to have
medical coverage, but because it is a choice between EITHER having
coverage OR getting enough to eat.

> someone in Canada. At least you get to PICK your coverage and your
> doctor here.


I have no idea where this idiotic canard about not getting to pick your
own doctor in Canada started, but despite its utter untruth, it refuses to
die.

DS
Path:
news1.west.cox.net!west.cox.net!east.cox.net!filt0 1.cox.net!peer02.cox.net!c
ox.net!chi1.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!snoop y.risq.qc.ca!msc1.onvoy!on
voy.com!lenny.tc.umn.edu!newsxfer.eecs.umich.edu!n ews.itd.umich.edu!alumni.e
ngin.umich.edu!dastern
Newsgroups:
rec.autos.4x4,rec.autos.driving,rec.autos.makers.j eep+willys,rec.autos.maker
s.chrysler,rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer
From: "Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1>
X-X-Sender: dastern@alumni.engin.umich.edu
Subject: Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about
safetycanbemisinterpreted by SUV drivers)
In-Reply-To: <tdudnV1yI7gtDFKiRTvUqA@texas.net>
Message-ID:
<Pine.SOL.4.44.0312041656310.14179-100000@alumni.engin.umich.edu>
References: <bq81fo$dhn$1@puck.cc.emory.edu>
<vsfam2sesmhl70@corp.supernews.com>
<b5b4685f.0312010834.1e30cffe@posting.google.com >
<JvKyb.274661$ao4.944451@attbi_s51>
<3FCBD92E.AA0EBC33@kinez.net> <NHTyb.384552$HS4.3166098@attbi_s01>
<MfVyb.61262$t01.28458@twister.socal.rr.com>
<3FCCB2E7.B0E53E0D@mindspring.com>
<QA3zb.1107$Kf2.626@twister.socal.rr.com> <bqinb6$him$8@puck.cc.emory.edu>
<3FCCEA4D.9F9665EC@greg.greg> <bqitfk$of5$4@puck.cc.emory.edu>
<3FCD297E.ACDFBAB3@kinez.net> <bql14l$c29$13@puck.cc.emory.edu>
<3FCE7CC4.EC8B0498@kinez.net>
<Pine.SOL.4.44.0312031922420.21202-100000@alumni.engin.umich.edu>
<bqm2dd01v75@enews1.newsguy.com>
<Pine.SOL.4.44.0312032057380.21202-100000@alumni.engin.umich.edu>
<3FCF4387.DC99FB8F@pobox.nospam>
<Pine.SOL.4.44.0312041142380.24084-100000@alumni.engin.umich.edu>
<tdudnV1yI7gtDFKiRTvUqA@texas.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Lines: 23
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:58:18 -0500
NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.213.74.27
X-Trace: news.itd.umich.edu 1070575099 141.213.74.27 (Thu, 04 Dec 2003
16:58:19 EST)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 16:58:19 EST
Xref: east.cox.net rec.autos.4x4:193137 rec.autos.driving:534611
rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys:495064 rec.autos.makers.chrysler:238297
rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer:177424
X-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:16:47 EST (news1.west.cox.net)

--
Nick
http://members.cox.net/nnote/



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-04-2003 05:53 PM

Re: Ok, i am reporting like mad dog
 
I wouldn't write a thing. Just forward and paste in their header,
to their Abuse@ISP They'll see the violations.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Nick N wrote:
>
> Following is my cut and past to and abuse@ for the also email crazy Daniel
> J. Stern
> Nick
>
> Dear abuse@umich.com For the past 2 months we have been having severe
> problems on rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys with off topic crossposting which
> is a violation of the newsgroups charter.
> ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announc...rs.jeep+willys
> The hundreds of (now numbering thousands) of posts were originally started
> by a Lloyd Parker of emory university. The man has continually harrased our
> newsgroup and many others with his crossposts and work is being done to stop
> his harrasment (see below)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Nathan,
> I understand your impatience on this issue, but we have been working on it.
> I have turned it our to our General Counsel's office to handle. I will let
> you know more info as I have it. Could you please let the other people in
> your group know about what is happening as well?
> Thanks, Jay
> ________________________
> Jay D. Flanagan
> Security, Team Lead
> ITD Technical Services
> Emory University
> Email: jflanag@emory.edu
> Phone: 404-727-4962
> Fax: 404-727-3246
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nathan Collier
> To: abuse@emory.edu
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:17 AM
> Subject: Fw: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about
> safety canbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
>
> dear sir,
> i contacted you yesterday concerning professor lloyd parker using your
> servers to violate the charter of our newsgroup
> rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys. he has posted over a dozen political
> messages
> this morning alone in our jeep newsgroup. if you are unable to stop him,
> could you please put me in contact with someone who can? i understand mr.
> parker is a respected professor at your college but that means nothing to
> me, the jeep newsgroup that he is harassing with his vile political
> beliefs,
> and certainly not to emory colleges bandwidth provider. if he cannot
> respect our newsgroup charter he has no business posting and i highly
> doubt
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------------------
>
> We at the newsgroup have numerous times asked that the persons continuing
> the posts to please stop but we usually get some kindof foul mouth language
> replies. We are now working on taking this past only the problem of Lloyd
> parker but the many people who keep the thread alive even with numurous
> request to stop. One of your clients a Daniel J. Stern (among others) is
> one of the continued violators. The topic "global warming, a liberal scam"
> has been the continued violating subject matter of literally thousands of
> crossposts clogging our newsgroup.
> See http://tinyurl.com/xryy or even http://tinyurl.com/xrz7 for a bigger
> picture (note the 57 THOUSAND messages).
> As you'll see from Dan Sterns headers below these messages are going out to
> 6 different newsgroups. Since we cannot seem to get a simple request to
> please stop, can you please help us out in this matter?
> Nick
>
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Steve wrote:
>
> > Dan, living in America without medical coverage is stupid.

>
> ...and for a great many people, unavoidable.
>
> > Decent health care is affordable here,

>
> Perhaps that's the happy case where you live. It is far from universally
> so, however. The fact remains there are a great many people in America who
> do not have medical coverage. Not because they stupidly choose not to have
> medical coverage, but because it is a choice between EITHER having
> coverage OR getting enough to eat.
>
> > someone in Canada. At least you get to PICK your coverage and your
> > doctor here.

>
> I have no idea where this idiotic canard about not getting to pick your
> own doctor in Canada started, but despite its utter untruth, it refuses to
> die.
>
> DS
> Path:
> news1.west.cox.net!west.cox.net!east.cox.net!filt0 1.cox.net!peer02.cox.net!c
> ox.net!chi1.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!snoop y.risq.qc.ca!msc1.onvoy!on
> voy.com!lenny.tc.umn.edu!newsxfer.eecs.umich.edu!n ews.itd.umich.edu!alumni.e
> ngin.umich.edu!dastern
> Newsgroups:
> rec.autos.4x4,rec.autos.driving,rec.autos.makers.j eep+willys,rec.autos.maker
> s.chrysler,rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer
> From: "Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1>
> X-X-Sender: dastern@alumni.engin.umich.edu
> Subject: Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about
> safetycanbemisinterpreted by SUV drivers)
> In-Reply-To: <tdudnV1yI7gtDFKiRTvUqA@texas.net>
> Message-ID:
> <Pine.SOL.4.44.0312041656310.14179-100000@alumni.engin.umich.edu>
> References: <bq81fo$dhn$1@puck.cc.emory.edu>
> <vsfam2sesmhl70@corp.supernews.com>
> <b5b4685f.0312010834.1e30cffe@posting.google.com >
> <JvKyb.274661$ao4.944451@attbi_s51>
> <3FCBD92E.AA0EBC33@kinez.net> <NHTyb.384552$HS4.3166098@attbi_s01>
> <MfVyb.61262$t01.28458@twister.socal.rr.com>
> <3FCCB2E7.B0E53E0D@mindspring.com>
> <QA3zb.1107$Kf2.626@twister.socal.rr.com> <bqinb6$him$8@puck.cc.emory.edu>
> <3FCCEA4D.9F9665EC@greg.greg> <bqitfk$of5$4@puck.cc.emory.edu>
> <3FCD297E.ACDFBAB3@kinez.net> <bql14l$c29$13@puck.cc.emory.edu>
> <3FCE7CC4.EC8B0498@kinez.net>
> <Pine.SOL.4.44.0312031922420.21202-100000@alumni.engin.umich.edu>
> <bqm2dd01v75@enews1.newsguy.com>
> <Pine.SOL.4.44.0312032057380.21202-100000@alumni.engin.umich.edu>
> <3FCF4387.DC99FB8F@pobox.nospam>
> <Pine.SOL.4.44.0312041142380.24084-100000@alumni.engin.umich.edu>
> <tdudnV1yI7gtDFKiRTvUqA@texas.net>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> Lines: 23
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:58:18 -0500
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.213.74.27
> X-Trace: news.itd.umich.edu 1070575099 141.213.74.27 (Thu, 04 Dec 2003
> 16:58:19 EST)
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 16:58:19 EST
> Xref: east.cox.net rec.autos.4x4:193137 rec.autos.driving:534611
> rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys:495064 rec.autos.makers.chrysler:238297
> rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer:177424
> X-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:16:47 EST (news1.west.cox.net)
>
> --
> Nick
> http://members.cox.net/nnote/


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-04-2003 05:53 PM

Re: Ok, i am reporting like mad dog
 
I wouldn't write a thing. Just forward and paste in their header,
to their Abuse@ISP They'll see the violations.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Nick N wrote:
>
> Following is my cut and past to and abuse@ for the also email crazy Daniel
> J. Stern
> Nick
>
> Dear abuse@umich.com For the past 2 months we have been having severe
> problems on rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys with off topic crossposting which
> is a violation of the newsgroups charter.
> ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announc...rs.jeep+willys
> The hundreds of (now numbering thousands) of posts were originally started
> by a Lloyd Parker of emory university. The man has continually harrased our
> newsgroup and many others with his crossposts and work is being done to stop
> his harrasment (see below)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Nathan,
> I understand your impatience on this issue, but we have been working on it.
> I have turned it our to our General Counsel's office to handle. I will let
> you know more info as I have it. Could you please let the other people in
> your group know about what is happening as well?
> Thanks, Jay
> ________________________
> Jay D. Flanagan
> Security, Team Lead
> ITD Technical Services
> Emory University
> Email: jflanag@emory.edu
> Phone: 404-727-4962
> Fax: 404-727-3246
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nathan Collier
> To: abuse@emory.edu
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:17 AM
> Subject: Fw: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about
> safety canbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
>
> dear sir,
> i contacted you yesterday concerning professor lloyd parker using your
> servers to violate the charter of our newsgroup
> rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys. he has posted over a dozen political
> messages
> this morning alone in our jeep newsgroup. if you are unable to stop him,
> could you please put me in contact with someone who can? i understand mr.
> parker is a respected professor at your college but that means nothing to
> me, the jeep newsgroup that he is harassing with his vile political
> beliefs,
> and certainly not to emory colleges bandwidth provider. if he cannot
> respect our newsgroup charter he has no business posting and i highly
> doubt
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------------------
>
> We at the newsgroup have numerous times asked that the persons continuing
> the posts to please stop but we usually get some kindof foul mouth language
> replies. We are now working on taking this past only the problem of Lloyd
> parker but the many people who keep the thread alive even with numurous
> request to stop. One of your clients a Daniel J. Stern (among others) is
> one of the continued violators. The topic "global warming, a liberal scam"
> has been the continued violating subject matter of literally thousands of
> crossposts clogging our newsgroup.
> See http://tinyurl.com/xryy or even http://tinyurl.com/xrz7 for a bigger
> picture (note the 57 THOUSAND messages).
> As you'll see from Dan Sterns headers below these messages are going out to
> 6 different newsgroups. Since we cannot seem to get a simple request to
> please stop, can you please help us out in this matter?
> Nick
>
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Steve wrote:
>
> > Dan, living in America without medical coverage is stupid.

>
> ...and for a great many people, unavoidable.
>
> > Decent health care is affordable here,

>
> Perhaps that's the happy case where you live. It is far from universally
> so, however. The fact remains there are a great many people in America who
> do not have medical coverage. Not because they stupidly choose not to have
> medical coverage, but because it is a choice between EITHER having
> coverage OR getting enough to eat.
>
> > someone in Canada. At least you get to PICK your coverage and your
> > doctor here.

>
> I have no idea where this idiotic canard about not getting to pick your
> own doctor in Canada started, but despite its utter untruth, it refuses to
> die.
>
> DS
> Path:
> news1.west.cox.net!west.cox.net!east.cox.net!filt0 1.cox.net!peer02.cox.net!c
> ox.net!chi1.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!snoop y.risq.qc.ca!msc1.onvoy!on
> voy.com!lenny.tc.umn.edu!newsxfer.eecs.umich.edu!n ews.itd.umich.edu!alumni.e
> ngin.umich.edu!dastern
> Newsgroups:
> rec.autos.4x4,rec.autos.driving,rec.autos.makers.j eep+willys,rec.autos.maker
> s.chrysler,rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer
> From: "Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1>
> X-X-Sender: dastern@alumni.engin.umich.edu
> Subject: Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about
> safetycanbemisinterpreted by SUV drivers)
> In-Reply-To: <tdudnV1yI7gtDFKiRTvUqA@texas.net>
> Message-ID:
> <Pine.SOL.4.44.0312041656310.14179-100000@alumni.engin.umich.edu>
> References: <bq81fo$dhn$1@puck.cc.emory.edu>
> <vsfam2sesmhl70@corp.supernews.com>
> <b5b4685f.0312010834.1e30cffe@posting.google.com >
> <JvKyb.274661$ao4.944451@attbi_s51>
> <3FCBD92E.AA0EBC33@kinez.net> <NHTyb.384552$HS4.3166098@attbi_s01>
> <MfVyb.61262$t01.28458@twister.socal.rr.com>
> <3FCCB2E7.B0E53E0D@mindspring.com>
> <QA3zb.1107$Kf2.626@twister.socal.rr.com> <bqinb6$him$8@puck.cc.emory.edu>
> <3FCCEA4D.9F9665EC@greg.greg> <bqitfk$of5$4@puck.cc.emory.edu>
> <3FCD297E.ACDFBAB3@kinez.net> <bql14l$c29$13@puck.cc.emory.edu>
> <3FCE7CC4.EC8B0498@kinez.net>
> <Pine.SOL.4.44.0312031922420.21202-100000@alumni.engin.umich.edu>
> <bqm2dd01v75@enews1.newsguy.com>
> <Pine.SOL.4.44.0312032057380.21202-100000@alumni.engin.umich.edu>
> <3FCF4387.DC99FB8F@pobox.nospam>
> <Pine.SOL.4.44.0312041142380.24084-100000@alumni.engin.umich.edu>
> <tdudnV1yI7gtDFKiRTvUqA@texas.net>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> Lines: 23
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:58:18 -0500
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.213.74.27
> X-Trace: news.itd.umich.edu 1070575099 141.213.74.27 (Thu, 04 Dec 2003
> 16:58:19 EST)
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 16:58:19 EST
> Xref: east.cox.net rec.autos.4x4:193137 rec.autos.driving:534611
> rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys:495064 rec.autos.makers.chrysler:238297
> rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer:177424
> X-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:16:47 EST (news1.west.cox.net)
>
> --
> Nick
> http://members.cox.net/nnote/


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-04-2003 05:53 PM

Re: Ok, i am reporting like mad dog
 
I wouldn't write a thing. Just forward and paste in their header,
to their Abuse@ISP They'll see the violations.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Nick N wrote:
>
> Following is my cut and past to and abuse@ for the also email crazy Daniel
> J. Stern
> Nick
>
> Dear abuse@umich.com For the past 2 months we have been having severe
> problems on rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys with off topic crossposting which
> is a violation of the newsgroups charter.
> ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announc...rs.jeep+willys
> The hundreds of (now numbering thousands) of posts were originally started
> by a Lloyd Parker of emory university. The man has continually harrased our
> newsgroup and many others with his crossposts and work is being done to stop
> his harrasment (see below)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Nathan,
> I understand your impatience on this issue, but we have been working on it.
> I have turned it our to our General Counsel's office to handle. I will let
> you know more info as I have it. Could you please let the other people in
> your group know about what is happening as well?
> Thanks, Jay
> ________________________
> Jay D. Flanagan
> Security, Team Lead
> ITD Technical Services
> Emory University
> Email: jflanag@emory.edu
> Phone: 404-727-4962
> Fax: 404-727-3246
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nathan Collier
> To: abuse@emory.edu
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:17 AM
> Subject: Fw: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about
> safety canbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
>
> dear sir,
> i contacted you yesterday concerning professor lloyd parker using your
> servers to violate the charter of our newsgroup
> rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys. he has posted over a dozen political
> messages
> this morning alone in our jeep newsgroup. if you are unable to stop him,
> could you please put me in contact with someone who can? i understand mr.
> parker is a respected professor at your college but that means nothing to
> me, the jeep newsgroup that he is harassing with his vile political
> beliefs,
> and certainly not to emory colleges bandwidth provider. if he cannot
> respect our newsgroup charter he has no business posting and i highly
> doubt
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------------------
>
> We at the newsgroup have numerous times asked that the persons continuing
> the posts to please stop but we usually get some kindof foul mouth language
> replies. We are now working on taking this past only the problem of Lloyd
> parker but the many people who keep the thread alive even with numurous
> request to stop. One of your clients a Daniel J. Stern (among others) is
> one of the continued violators. The topic "global warming, a liberal scam"
> has been the continued violating subject matter of literally thousands of
> crossposts clogging our newsgroup.
> See http://tinyurl.com/xryy or even http://tinyurl.com/xrz7 for a bigger
> picture (note the 57 THOUSAND messages).
> As you'll see from Dan Sterns headers below these messages are going out to
> 6 different newsgroups. Since we cannot seem to get a simple request to
> please stop, can you please help us out in this matter?
> Nick
>
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Steve wrote:
>
> > Dan, living in America without medical coverage is stupid.

>
> ...and for a great many people, unavoidable.
>
> > Decent health care is affordable here,

>
> Perhaps that's the happy case where you live. It is far from universally
> so, however. The fact remains there are a great many people in America who
> do not have medical coverage. Not because they stupidly choose not to have
> medical coverage, but because it is a choice between EITHER having
> coverage OR getting enough to eat.
>
> > someone in Canada. At least you get to PICK your coverage and your
> > doctor here.

>
> I have no idea where this idiotic canard about not getting to pick your
> own doctor in Canada started, but despite its utter untruth, it refuses to
> die.
>
> DS
> Path:
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> X-X-Sender: dastern@alumni.engin.umich.edu
> Subject: Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about
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> Nick
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