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Oil type
Been reading some posts on the "How many miles are on your TJ?" thread....
Lots of guys use synthetic! How much better is this for your engine? I'd put it in if it was better....but would I void warrantee by using something other than what they recommend? sb |
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SB did pass the time by typing:
> Been reading some posts on the "How many miles are on your TJ?" thread.... > > Lots of guys use synthetic! > How much better is this for your engine? The main thing synthetics have going for them is longevity. Where dino breaks down after about 3000mi the synthetics can go out to 7000mi. I ran dino for a few years, then tried blends and synthetics. The engine ran quieter with the synthetic so I stuck with it. Seems to keep the lifters happy. > but would I void warrantee by using > something other than what they recommend? nope. Unless of course you use pancake syrup instead of oil. :) -- DougW |
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SB did pass the time by typing:
> Been reading some posts on the "How many miles are on your TJ?" thread.... > > Lots of guys use synthetic! > How much better is this for your engine? The main thing synthetics have going for them is longevity. Where dino breaks down after about 3000mi the synthetics can go out to 7000mi. I ran dino for a few years, then tried blends and synthetics. The engine ran quieter with the synthetic so I stuck with it. Seems to keep the lifters happy. > but would I void warrantee by using > something other than what they recommend? nope. Unless of course you use pancake syrup instead of oil. :) -- DougW |
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SB did pass the time by typing:
> Been reading some posts on the "How many miles are on your TJ?" thread.... > > Lots of guys use synthetic! > How much better is this for your engine? The main thing synthetics have going for them is longevity. Where dino breaks down after about 3000mi the synthetics can go out to 7000mi. I ran dino for a few years, then tried blends and synthetics. The engine ran quieter with the synthetic so I stuck with it. Seems to keep the lifters happy. > but would I void warrantee by using > something other than what they recommend? nope. Unless of course you use pancake syrup instead of oil. :) -- DougW |
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LOL!
That created a rather funny aunt-jamima mental picture... > nope. Unless of course you use pancake syrup instead of oil. :) |
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LOL!
That created a rather funny aunt-jamima mental picture... > nope. Unless of course you use pancake syrup instead of oil. :) |
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LOL!
That created a rather funny aunt-jamima mental picture... > nope. Unless of course you use pancake syrup instead of oil. :) |
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Hi Doug,
Remember, synthetic is still petroleum, just with another couple of steps of refinement. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ DougW wrote: > > The main thing synthetics have going for them is > longevity. Where dino breaks down after about 3000mi > the synthetics can go out to 7000mi. > > I ran dino for a few years, then tried blends and synthetics. > The engine ran quieter with the synthetic so I stuck with it. > Seems to keep the lifters happy. > > nope. Unless of course you use pancake syrup instead of oil. :) > > -- > DougW |
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Hi Doug,
Remember, synthetic is still petroleum, just with another couple of steps of refinement. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ DougW wrote: > > The main thing synthetics have going for them is > longevity. Where dino breaks down after about 3000mi > the synthetics can go out to 7000mi. > > I ran dino for a few years, then tried blends and synthetics. > The engine ran quieter with the synthetic so I stuck with it. > Seems to keep the lifters happy. > > nope. Unless of course you use pancake syrup instead of oil. :) > > -- > DougW |
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Hi Doug,
Remember, synthetic is still petroleum, just with another couple of steps of refinement. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ DougW wrote: > > The main thing synthetics have going for them is > longevity. Where dino breaks down after about 3000mi > the synthetics can go out to 7000mi. > > I ran dino for a few years, then tried blends and synthetics. > The engine ran quieter with the synthetic so I stuck with it. > Seems to keep the lifters happy. > > nope. Unless of course you use pancake syrup instead of oil. :) > > -- > DougW |
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I thought synthetic was Man'gineered.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:40479CED.92EC52F1@cox.net... > Hi Doug, > Remember, synthetic is still petroleum, just with another couple of > steps of refinement. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > DougW wrote: > > > > The main thing synthetics have going for them is > > longevity. Where dino breaks down after about 3000mi > > the synthetics can go out to 7000mi. > > > > I ran dino for a few years, then tried blends and synthetics. > > The engine ran quieter with the synthetic so I stuck with it. > > Seems to keep the lifters happy. > > > > nope. Unless of course you use pancake syrup instead of oil. :) > > > > -- > > DougW |
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I thought synthetic was Man'gineered.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:40479CED.92EC52F1@cox.net... > Hi Doug, > Remember, synthetic is still petroleum, just with another couple of > steps of refinement. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > DougW wrote: > > > > The main thing synthetics have going for them is > > longevity. Where dino breaks down after about 3000mi > > the synthetics can go out to 7000mi. > > > > I ran dino for a few years, then tried blends and synthetics. > > The engine ran quieter with the synthetic so I stuck with it. > > Seems to keep the lifters happy. > > > > nope. Unless of course you use pancake syrup instead of oil. :) > > > > -- > > DougW |
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I thought synthetic was Man'gineered.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:40479CED.92EC52F1@cox.net... > Hi Doug, > Remember, synthetic is still petroleum, just with another couple of > steps of refinement. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > DougW wrote: > > > > The main thing synthetics have going for them is > > longevity. Where dino breaks down after about 3000mi > > the synthetics can go out to 7000mi. > > > > I ran dino for a few years, then tried blends and synthetics. > > The engine ran quieter with the synthetic so I stuck with it. > > Seems to keep the lifters happy. > > > > nope. Unless of course you use pancake syrup instead of oil. :) > > > > -- > > DougW |
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'Some' is, most that claim the label aren't.
The 'real' ones took the fakes to court, but the word 'synthetic' covers too broad a spectrum so the cracked petroleum products or 'fake' synthetics can use it. Then you have snake oil like amsoil that will void an engine warranty because it can't get the approval the vehicle manufacturer's demand. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's SB wrote: > > I thought synthetic was Man'gineered. > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:40479CED.92EC52F1@cox.net... > > Hi Doug, > > Remember, synthetic is still petroleum, just with another couple of > > steps of refinement. > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > DougW wrote: > > > > > > The main thing synthetics have going for them is > > > longevity. Where dino breaks down after about 3000mi > > > the synthetics can go out to 7000mi. > > > > > > I ran dino for a few years, then tried blends and synthetics. > > > The engine ran quieter with the synthetic so I stuck with it. > > > Seems to keep the lifters happy. > > > > > > nope. Unless of course you use pancake syrup instead of oil. :) > > > > > > -- > > > DougW |
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'Some' is, most that claim the label aren't.
The 'real' ones took the fakes to court, but the word 'synthetic' covers too broad a spectrum so the cracked petroleum products or 'fake' synthetics can use it. Then you have snake oil like amsoil that will void an engine warranty because it can't get the approval the vehicle manufacturer's demand. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's SB wrote: > > I thought synthetic was Man'gineered. > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:40479CED.92EC52F1@cox.net... > > Hi Doug, > > Remember, synthetic is still petroleum, just with another couple of > > steps of refinement. > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > DougW wrote: > > > > > > The main thing synthetics have going for them is > > > longevity. Where dino breaks down after about 3000mi > > > the synthetics can go out to 7000mi. > > > > > > I ran dino for a few years, then tried blends and synthetics. > > > The engine ran quieter with the synthetic so I stuck with it. > > > Seems to keep the lifters happy. > > > > > > nope. Unless of course you use pancake syrup instead of oil. :) > > > > > > -- > > > DougW |
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'Some' is, most that claim the label aren't.
The 'real' ones took the fakes to court, but the word 'synthetic' covers too broad a spectrum so the cracked petroleum products or 'fake' synthetics can use it. Then you have snake oil like amsoil that will void an engine warranty because it can't get the approval the vehicle manufacturer's demand. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's SB wrote: > > I thought synthetic was Man'gineered. > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:40479CED.92EC52F1@cox.net... > > Hi Doug, > > Remember, synthetic is still petroleum, just with another couple of > > steps of refinement. > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > DougW wrote: > > > > > > The main thing synthetics have going for them is > > > longevity. Where dino breaks down after about 3000mi > > > the synthetics can go out to 7000mi. > > > > > > I ran dino for a few years, then tried blends and synthetics. > > > The engine ran quieter with the synthetic so I stuck with it. > > > Seems to keep the lifters happy. > > > > > > nope. Unless of course you use pancake syrup instead of oil. :) > > > > > > -- > > > DougW |
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That's the problem the Society of Automotive Engineers have. You
may see the fight they have put up over the use of the word, synthetic as used on petroleum refined to "basestocks": http://www.1st-in-synthetics.com/articles7.htm as defined by one of the industries' competitors. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ SB wrote: > > I thought synthetic was Man'gineered. |
Re: Oil type
That's the problem the Society of Automotive Engineers have. You
may see the fight they have put up over the use of the word, synthetic as used on petroleum refined to "basestocks": http://www.1st-in-synthetics.com/articles7.htm as defined by one of the industries' competitors. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ SB wrote: > > I thought synthetic was Man'gineered. |
Re: Oil type
That's the problem the Society of Automotive Engineers have. You
may see the fight they have put up over the use of the word, synthetic as used on petroleum refined to "basestocks": http://www.1st-in-synthetics.com/articles7.htm as defined by one of the industries' competitors. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ SB wrote: > > I thought synthetic was Man'gineered. |
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L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> That's the problem the Society of Automotive Engineers have. You > may see the fight they have put up over the use of the word, synthetic > as used on petroleum refined to "basestocks": > http://www.1st-in-synthetics.com/articles7.htm as defined by one of the > industries' competitors. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > SB wrote: > >>I thought synthetic was Man'gineered. I run only 100% synthetic oil, 0 W 30 in my TJ and Crown Vic. Only synthetic oil is used in turbine engines. Dino oil breaks down ,and cannot take the heat. If it can stand the rpm's turned by turbines and not fail that tells me its far superior to dino oil. |
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L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> That's the problem the Society of Automotive Engineers have. You > may see the fight they have put up over the use of the word, synthetic > as used on petroleum refined to "basestocks": > http://www.1st-in-synthetics.com/articles7.htm as defined by one of the > industries' competitors. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > SB wrote: > >>I thought synthetic was Man'gineered. I run only 100% synthetic oil, 0 W 30 in my TJ and Crown Vic. Only synthetic oil is used in turbine engines. Dino oil breaks down ,and cannot take the heat. If it can stand the rpm's turned by turbines and not fail that tells me its far superior to dino oil. |
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L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> That's the problem the Society of Automotive Engineers have. You > may see the fight they have put up over the use of the word, synthetic > as used on petroleum refined to "basestocks": > http://www.1st-in-synthetics.com/articles7.htm as defined by one of the > industries' competitors. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > SB wrote: > >>I thought synthetic was Man'gineered. I run only 100% synthetic oil, 0 W 30 in my TJ and Crown Vic. Only synthetic oil is used in turbine engines. Dino oil breaks down ,and cannot take the heat. If it can stand the rpm's turned by turbines and not fail that tells me its far superior to dino oil. |
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Kevin, synthetic oil is petroleum (dino oil) refined to "basestocks"
with some man made additives. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Kevin wrote: > > I run only 100% synthetic oil, 0 W 30 in my TJ and Crown Vic. Only > synthetic oil is used in turbine engines. Dino oil breaks down ,and > cannot take the heat. If it can stand the rpm's turned by turbines and > not fail that tells me its far superior to dino oil. |
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Kevin, synthetic oil is petroleum (dino oil) refined to "basestocks"
with some man made additives. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Kevin wrote: > > I run only 100% synthetic oil, 0 W 30 in my TJ and Crown Vic. Only > synthetic oil is used in turbine engines. Dino oil breaks down ,and > cannot take the heat. If it can stand the rpm's turned by turbines and > not fail that tells me its far superior to dino oil. |
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Kevin, synthetic oil is petroleum (dino oil) refined to "basestocks"
with some man made additives. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Kevin wrote: > > I run only 100% synthetic oil, 0 W 30 in my TJ and Crown Vic. Only > synthetic oil is used in turbine engines. Dino oil breaks down ,and > cannot take the heat. If it can stand the rpm's turned by turbines and > not fail that tells me its far superior to dino oil. |
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Dealer in New Zealand uses Mobil S for engine oil in TJs. Just had it changed last week. The Jeep is still under warranty. TW "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:7cF1c.27897$1k.2443@okepread01... > SB did pass the time by typing: > > Been reading some posts on the "How many miles are on your TJ?" thread.... > > > > Lots of guys use synthetic! > > How much better is this for your engine? > > The main thing synthetics have going for them is > longevity. Where dino breaks down after about 3000mi > the synthetics can go out to 7000mi. > > I ran dino for a few years, then tried blends and synthetics. > The engine ran quieter with the synthetic so I stuck with it. > Seems to keep the lifters happy. > > > but would I void warrantee by using > > something other than what they recommend? > > nope. Unless of course you use pancake syrup instead of oil. :) > > -- > DougW > > > > |
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Dealer in New Zealand uses Mobil S for engine oil in TJs. Just had it changed last week. The Jeep is still under warranty. TW "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:7cF1c.27897$1k.2443@okepread01... > SB did pass the time by typing: > > Been reading some posts on the "How many miles are on your TJ?" thread.... > > > > Lots of guys use synthetic! > > How much better is this for your engine? > > The main thing synthetics have going for them is > longevity. Where dino breaks down after about 3000mi > the synthetics can go out to 7000mi. > > I ran dino for a few years, then tried blends and synthetics. > The engine ran quieter with the synthetic so I stuck with it. > Seems to keep the lifters happy. > > > but would I void warrantee by using > > something other than what they recommend? > > nope. Unless of course you use pancake syrup instead of oil. :) > > -- > DougW > > > > |
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Dealer in New Zealand uses Mobil S for engine oil in TJs. Just had it changed last week. The Jeep is still under warranty. TW "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:7cF1c.27897$1k.2443@okepread01... > SB did pass the time by typing: > > Been reading some posts on the "How many miles are on your TJ?" thread.... > > > > Lots of guys use synthetic! > > How much better is this for your engine? > > The main thing synthetics have going for them is > longevity. Where dino breaks down after about 3000mi > the synthetics can go out to 7000mi. > > I ran dino for a few years, then tried blends and synthetics. > The engine ran quieter with the synthetic so I stuck with it. > Seems to keep the lifters happy. > > > but would I void warrantee by using > > something other than what they recommend? > > nope. Unless of course you use pancake syrup instead of oil. :) > > -- > DougW > > > > |
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L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Kevin, synthetic oil is petroleum (dino oil) refined to "basestocks" > with some man made additives. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Kevin wrote: > >> I run only 100% synthetic oil, 0 W 30 in my TJ and Crown Vic. Only >>synthetic oil is used in turbine engines. Dino oil breaks down ,and >>cannot take the heat. If it can stand the rpm's turned by turbines and >>not fail that tells me its far superior to dino oil. http://www.vx800.net/workshop/advice....htm#synthetic |
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L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Kevin, synthetic oil is petroleum (dino oil) refined to "basestocks" > with some man made additives. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Kevin wrote: > >> I run only 100% synthetic oil, 0 W 30 in my TJ and Crown Vic. Only >>synthetic oil is used in turbine engines. Dino oil breaks down ,and >>cannot take the heat. If it can stand the rpm's turned by turbines and >>not fail that tells me its far superior to dino oil. http://www.vx800.net/workshop/advice....htm#synthetic |
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L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Kevin, synthetic oil is petroleum (dino oil) refined to "basestocks" > with some man made additives. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Kevin wrote: > >> I run only 100% synthetic oil, 0 W 30 in my TJ and Crown Vic. Only >>synthetic oil is used in turbine engines. Dino oil breaks down ,and >>cannot take the heat. If it can stand the rpm's turned by turbines and >>not fail that tells me its far superior to dino oil. http://www.vx800.net/workshop/advice....htm#synthetic |
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I run only 100% synthetic oil, 0 W 30 in my TJ and Crown Vic. Only
> synthetic oil is used in turbine engines. Dino oil breaks down ,and > cannot take the heat. If it can stand the rpm's turned by turbines and > not fail that tells me its far superior to dino oil. The synthetic used in aircraft turbine engines isn't really a fair comparison though, as it GAINS viscosity with temperature due to its additives, the opposite of auto oils. I was a helicopter pilot for a few years and the sludgier that crap is when hot, the better. If you used av type turbine oil in your car, you'd be in trouble quick. Matt |
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I run only 100% synthetic oil, 0 W 30 in my TJ and Crown Vic. Only
> synthetic oil is used in turbine engines. Dino oil breaks down ,and > cannot take the heat. If it can stand the rpm's turned by turbines and > not fail that tells me its far superior to dino oil. The synthetic used in aircraft turbine engines isn't really a fair comparison though, as it GAINS viscosity with temperature due to its additives, the opposite of auto oils. I was a helicopter pilot for a few years and the sludgier that crap is when hot, the better. If you used av type turbine oil in your car, you'd be in trouble quick. Matt |
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I run only 100% synthetic oil, 0 W 30 in my TJ and Crown Vic. Only
> synthetic oil is used in turbine engines. Dino oil breaks down ,and > cannot take the heat. If it can stand the rpm's turned by turbines and > not fail that tells me its far superior to dino oil. The synthetic used in aircraft turbine engines isn't really a fair comparison though, as it GAINS viscosity with temperature due to its additives, the opposite of auto oils. I was a helicopter pilot for a few years and the sludgier that crap is when hot, the better. If you used av type turbine oil in your car, you'd be in trouble quick. Matt |
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Just so you know synthetic oil is dino oil, and of course they're
compatible. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Kevin wrote: > > http://www.vx800.net/workshop/advice....htm#synthetic |
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Just so you know synthetic oil is dino oil, and of course they're
compatible. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Kevin wrote: > > http://www.vx800.net/workshop/advice....htm#synthetic |
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Just so you know synthetic oil is dino oil, and of course they're
compatible. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Kevin wrote: > > http://www.vx800.net/workshop/advice....htm#synthetic |
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