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Carl S 01-30-2007 12:11 AM

Re: oil filter mount
 
For a cheap YJ, maybe. I have a place in Richmond I could take it to...

Carl


"The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
news:epjhk1$j07$1@aioe.org...
> > If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)

>
> You coming all the way from Idaho to pick it up? :)
> Haha, no I'm not selling it anytime soon - I have big plans for this truck
> (of course, it remains to be seen if they come to fruition)
>
> Carl S wrote:
>> If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:epitb9$4h5$1@aioe.org...
>>> I tried a new filter, no help. I wonder if perhaps the oil pressure
>>> sensor is bad? There is a sensor on the oil filter mount - I pulled it,
>>> and it was covered in oil. Is there a way to manually check oil
>>> pressure?
>>> What would the oil pressure relief valve look like?
>>> Oh, and Murphy's Law has kicked in - the car won't start. The starter
>>> is turning, but it won't catch. It's started fine up to this point, and
>>> it seems like I have fuel pressure. When I crank it over, the temp
>>> gauge pegs - what would that mean?
>>> I figured this was as good a time as any to check the distributor, and
>>> the posts for cyls 1 and 6 were corroded. I doubt this caused the
>>> problem, but I'm going to replace the cap, wires, and plugs anyway.
>>> Might as well do the coil too?
>>> I know I can't expect much from a $500 car, but jeez, it's just one
>>> thing after another.
>>>
>>>
>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>> Other causes of low oil pressure could be bearings worn out, oil pump
>>>> clogged or worn out, starved input or an internal engine oil passage
>>>> leaking. Those are all pretty unlikely, but one never knows. There is
>>>> an
>>>> oil pressure relief valve, sometimes in the pump and sometimes in the
>>>> adapter you are playing with, that can be stuck open. You can get a
>>>> bad oil
>>>> filter too. Usually only one thing goes wrong at a time, but there's
>>>> Murphy's Law.
>>>>
>>>> The manual I have is pretty skimpy with information on the oil filter
>>>> adapter, but if there are several ways to line it up you may have a
>>>> wrong
>>>> one now.
>>>>
>>>> Earle
>>>>
>>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:epijip$cjp$1@aioe.org...
>>>>> I bought the o-rings from the dealer, my dad put them in today while I
>>>>> was at work. The oil pressure is still pretty much zero.
>>>>> Does one of the holes in the male piece have to line up with the hole
>>>>> in
>>>>> the female piece? I don't have any pictures, but if need be I can
>>>>> pull
>>>>> it apart and get pictures.
>>>>> So is the oil pressure probably related to the oil filter mount or
>>>>> should I be looking elsewhere? I'm thinking it's the former, because
>>>>> the oil pressure was fine before I messed with the filter mount.
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> If this got sent out twice I apologize.
>>>>
>>> --
>>> ࡱ

>>
>>

>
> --
> ࡱ




The Merg 01-30-2007 12:21 AM

Re: oil filter mount
 
I'm looking at an '89 for $1k that's owned by a guy my dad works with.
The body and frame are pretty much rust free (except for some surface
rust on some hinges, but who cares). He says the 4.2L runs, but it
needs a starter and battery. Of course, it's been sitting for 3+ years,
so who knows. If I don't buy it, I'll let you know. This guy's pretty
lazy (as evidenced by him leaving his jeep sit for 3 years just because
the starter went), so I'm pretty sure he hasn't advertised it at all.
He's pretty much waiting for us to make a move.
Richmond's only about an hour and a half from here.

Carl S wrote:
> For a cheap YJ, maybe. I have a place in Richmond I could take it to...
>
> Carl
>
>
> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:epjhk1$j07$1@aioe.org...
>>> If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)

>> You coming all the way from Idaho to pick it up? :)
>> Haha, no I'm not selling it anytime soon - I have big plans for this truck
>> (of course, it remains to be seen if they come to fruition)
>>
>> Carl S wrote:
>>> If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:epitb9$4h5$1@aioe.org...
>>>> I tried a new filter, no help. I wonder if perhaps the oil pressure
>>>> sensor is bad? There is a sensor on the oil filter mount - I pulled it,
>>>> and it was covered in oil. Is there a way to manually check oil
>>>> pressure?
>>>> What would the oil pressure relief valve look like?
>>>> Oh, and Murphy's Law has kicked in - the car won't start. The starter
>>>> is turning, but it won't catch. It's started fine up to this point, and
>>>> it seems like I have fuel pressure. When I crank it over, the temp
>>>> gauge pegs - what would that mean?
>>>> I figured this was as good a time as any to check the distributor, and
>>>> the posts for cyls 1 and 6 were corroded. I doubt this caused the
>>>> problem, but I'm going to replace the cap, wires, and plugs anyway.
>>>> Might as well do the coil too?
>>>> I know I can't expect much from a $500 car, but jeez, it's just one
>>>> thing after another.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>> Other causes of low oil pressure could be bearings worn out, oil pump
>>>>> clogged or worn out, starved input or an internal engine oil passage
>>>>> leaking. Those are all pretty unlikely, but one never knows. There is
>>>>> an
>>>>> oil pressure relief valve, sometimes in the pump and sometimes in the
>>>>> adapter you are playing with, that can be stuck open. You can get a
>>>>> bad oil
>>>>> filter too. Usually only one thing goes wrong at a time, but there's
>>>>> Murphy's Law.
>>>>>
>>>>> The manual I have is pretty skimpy with information on the oil filter
>>>>> adapter, but if there are several ways to line it up you may have a
>>>>> wrong
>>>>> one now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Earle
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:epijip$cjp$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>> I bought the o-rings from the dealer, my dad put them in today while I
>>>>>> was at work. The oil pressure is still pretty much zero.
>>>>>> Does one of the holes in the male piece have to line up with the hole
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the female piece? I don't have any pictures, but if need be I can
>>>>>> pull
>>>>>> it apart and get pictures.
>>>>>> So is the oil pressure probably related to the oil filter mount or
>>>>>> should I be looking elsewhere? I'm thinking it's the former, because
>>>>>> the oil pressure was fine before I messed with the filter mount.
>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this got sent out twice I apologize.
>>>> --
>>>> ࡱ
>>>

>> --
>> ࡱ

>
>


--
ࡱ

The Merg 01-30-2007 12:21 AM

Re: oil filter mount
 
I'm looking at an '89 for $1k that's owned by a guy my dad works with.
The body and frame are pretty much rust free (except for some surface
rust on some hinges, but who cares). He says the 4.2L runs, but it
needs a starter and battery. Of course, it's been sitting for 3+ years,
so who knows. If I don't buy it, I'll let you know. This guy's pretty
lazy (as evidenced by him leaving his jeep sit for 3 years just because
the starter went), so I'm pretty sure he hasn't advertised it at all.
He's pretty much waiting for us to make a move.
Richmond's only about an hour and a half from here.

Carl S wrote:
> For a cheap YJ, maybe. I have a place in Richmond I could take it to...
>
> Carl
>
>
> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:epjhk1$j07$1@aioe.org...
>>> If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)

>> You coming all the way from Idaho to pick it up? :)
>> Haha, no I'm not selling it anytime soon - I have big plans for this truck
>> (of course, it remains to be seen if they come to fruition)
>>
>> Carl S wrote:
>>> If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:epitb9$4h5$1@aioe.org...
>>>> I tried a new filter, no help. I wonder if perhaps the oil pressure
>>>> sensor is bad? There is a sensor on the oil filter mount - I pulled it,
>>>> and it was covered in oil. Is there a way to manually check oil
>>>> pressure?
>>>> What would the oil pressure relief valve look like?
>>>> Oh, and Murphy's Law has kicked in - the car won't start. The starter
>>>> is turning, but it won't catch. It's started fine up to this point, and
>>>> it seems like I have fuel pressure. When I crank it over, the temp
>>>> gauge pegs - what would that mean?
>>>> I figured this was as good a time as any to check the distributor, and
>>>> the posts for cyls 1 and 6 were corroded. I doubt this caused the
>>>> problem, but I'm going to replace the cap, wires, and plugs anyway.
>>>> Might as well do the coil too?
>>>> I know I can't expect much from a $500 car, but jeez, it's just one
>>>> thing after another.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>> Other causes of low oil pressure could be bearings worn out, oil pump
>>>>> clogged or worn out, starved input or an internal engine oil passage
>>>>> leaking. Those are all pretty unlikely, but one never knows. There is
>>>>> an
>>>>> oil pressure relief valve, sometimes in the pump and sometimes in the
>>>>> adapter you are playing with, that can be stuck open. You can get a
>>>>> bad oil
>>>>> filter too. Usually only one thing goes wrong at a time, but there's
>>>>> Murphy's Law.
>>>>>
>>>>> The manual I have is pretty skimpy with information on the oil filter
>>>>> adapter, but if there are several ways to line it up you may have a
>>>>> wrong
>>>>> one now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Earle
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:epijip$cjp$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>> I bought the o-rings from the dealer, my dad put them in today while I
>>>>>> was at work. The oil pressure is still pretty much zero.
>>>>>> Does one of the holes in the male piece have to line up with the hole
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the female piece? I don't have any pictures, but if need be I can
>>>>>> pull
>>>>>> it apart and get pictures.
>>>>>> So is the oil pressure probably related to the oil filter mount or
>>>>>> should I be looking elsewhere? I'm thinking it's the former, because
>>>>>> the oil pressure was fine before I messed with the filter mount.
>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this got sent out twice I apologize.
>>>> --
>>>> ࡱ
>>>

>> --
>> ࡱ

>
>


--
ࡱ

The Merg 01-30-2007 12:21 AM

Re: oil filter mount
 
I'm looking at an '89 for $1k that's owned by a guy my dad works with.
The body and frame are pretty much rust free (except for some surface
rust on some hinges, but who cares). He says the 4.2L runs, but it
needs a starter and battery. Of course, it's been sitting for 3+ years,
so who knows. If I don't buy it, I'll let you know. This guy's pretty
lazy (as evidenced by him leaving his jeep sit for 3 years just because
the starter went), so I'm pretty sure he hasn't advertised it at all.
He's pretty much waiting for us to make a move.
Richmond's only about an hour and a half from here.

Carl S wrote:
> For a cheap YJ, maybe. I have a place in Richmond I could take it to...
>
> Carl
>
>
> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:epjhk1$j07$1@aioe.org...
>>> If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)

>> You coming all the way from Idaho to pick it up? :)
>> Haha, no I'm not selling it anytime soon - I have big plans for this truck
>> (of course, it remains to be seen if they come to fruition)
>>
>> Carl S wrote:
>>> If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:epitb9$4h5$1@aioe.org...
>>>> I tried a new filter, no help. I wonder if perhaps the oil pressure
>>>> sensor is bad? There is a sensor on the oil filter mount - I pulled it,
>>>> and it was covered in oil. Is there a way to manually check oil
>>>> pressure?
>>>> What would the oil pressure relief valve look like?
>>>> Oh, and Murphy's Law has kicked in - the car won't start. The starter
>>>> is turning, but it won't catch. It's started fine up to this point, and
>>>> it seems like I have fuel pressure. When I crank it over, the temp
>>>> gauge pegs - what would that mean?
>>>> I figured this was as good a time as any to check the distributor, and
>>>> the posts for cyls 1 and 6 were corroded. I doubt this caused the
>>>> problem, but I'm going to replace the cap, wires, and plugs anyway.
>>>> Might as well do the coil too?
>>>> I know I can't expect much from a $500 car, but jeez, it's just one
>>>> thing after another.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>> Other causes of low oil pressure could be bearings worn out, oil pump
>>>>> clogged or worn out, starved input or an internal engine oil passage
>>>>> leaking. Those are all pretty unlikely, but one never knows. There is
>>>>> an
>>>>> oil pressure relief valve, sometimes in the pump and sometimes in the
>>>>> adapter you are playing with, that can be stuck open. You can get a
>>>>> bad oil
>>>>> filter too. Usually only one thing goes wrong at a time, but there's
>>>>> Murphy's Law.
>>>>>
>>>>> The manual I have is pretty skimpy with information on the oil filter
>>>>> adapter, but if there are several ways to line it up you may have a
>>>>> wrong
>>>>> one now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Earle
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:epijip$cjp$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>> I bought the o-rings from the dealer, my dad put them in today while I
>>>>>> was at work. The oil pressure is still pretty much zero.
>>>>>> Does one of the holes in the male piece have to line up with the hole
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the female piece? I don't have any pictures, but if need be I can
>>>>>> pull
>>>>>> it apart and get pictures.
>>>>>> So is the oil pressure probably related to the oil filter mount or
>>>>>> should I be looking elsewhere? I'm thinking it's the former, because
>>>>>> the oil pressure was fine before I messed with the filter mount.
>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this got sent out twice I apologize.
>>>> --
>>>> ࡱ
>>>

>> --
>> ࡱ

>
>


--
ࡱ

The Merg 01-30-2007 12:21 AM

Re: oil filter mount
 
I'm looking at an '89 for $1k that's owned by a guy my dad works with.
The body and frame are pretty much rust free (except for some surface
rust on some hinges, but who cares). He says the 4.2L runs, but it
needs a starter and battery. Of course, it's been sitting for 3+ years,
so who knows. If I don't buy it, I'll let you know. This guy's pretty
lazy (as evidenced by him leaving his jeep sit for 3 years just because
the starter went), so I'm pretty sure he hasn't advertised it at all.
He's pretty much waiting for us to make a move.
Richmond's only about an hour and a half from here.

Carl S wrote:
> For a cheap YJ, maybe. I have a place in Richmond I could take it to...
>
> Carl
>
>
> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:epjhk1$j07$1@aioe.org...
>>> If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)

>> You coming all the way from Idaho to pick it up? :)
>> Haha, no I'm not selling it anytime soon - I have big plans for this truck
>> (of course, it remains to be seen if they come to fruition)
>>
>> Carl S wrote:
>>> If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:epitb9$4h5$1@aioe.org...
>>>> I tried a new filter, no help. I wonder if perhaps the oil pressure
>>>> sensor is bad? There is a sensor on the oil filter mount - I pulled it,
>>>> and it was covered in oil. Is there a way to manually check oil
>>>> pressure?
>>>> What would the oil pressure relief valve look like?
>>>> Oh, and Murphy's Law has kicked in - the car won't start. The starter
>>>> is turning, but it won't catch. It's started fine up to this point, and
>>>> it seems like I have fuel pressure. When I crank it over, the temp
>>>> gauge pegs - what would that mean?
>>>> I figured this was as good a time as any to check the distributor, and
>>>> the posts for cyls 1 and 6 were corroded. I doubt this caused the
>>>> problem, but I'm going to replace the cap, wires, and plugs anyway.
>>>> Might as well do the coil too?
>>>> I know I can't expect much from a $500 car, but jeez, it's just one
>>>> thing after another.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>> Other causes of low oil pressure could be bearings worn out, oil pump
>>>>> clogged or worn out, starved input or an internal engine oil passage
>>>>> leaking. Those are all pretty unlikely, but one never knows. There is
>>>>> an
>>>>> oil pressure relief valve, sometimes in the pump and sometimes in the
>>>>> adapter you are playing with, that can be stuck open. You can get a
>>>>> bad oil
>>>>> filter too. Usually only one thing goes wrong at a time, but there's
>>>>> Murphy's Law.
>>>>>
>>>>> The manual I have is pretty skimpy with information on the oil filter
>>>>> adapter, but if there are several ways to line it up you may have a
>>>>> wrong
>>>>> one now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Earle
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:epijip$cjp$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>> I bought the o-rings from the dealer, my dad put them in today while I
>>>>>> was at work. The oil pressure is still pretty much zero.
>>>>>> Does one of the holes in the male piece have to line up with the hole
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the female piece? I don't have any pictures, but if need be I can
>>>>>> pull
>>>>>> it apart and get pictures.
>>>>>> So is the oil pressure probably related to the oil filter mount or
>>>>>> should I be looking elsewhere? I'm thinking it's the former, because
>>>>>> the oil pressure was fine before I messed with the filter mount.
>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this got sent out twice I apologize.
>>>> --
>>>> ࡱ
>>>

>> --
>> ࡱ

>
>


--
ࡱ

Carl S 01-30-2007 12:27 AM

Re: oil filter mount
 
If you don't buy it, let me know and I will.

Carl

"The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
news:epmklk$kkq$1@aioe.org...
> I'm looking at an '89 for $1k that's owned by a guy my dad works with. The
> body and frame are pretty much rust free (except for some surface rust on
> some hinges, but who cares). He says the 4.2L runs, but it needs a
> starter and battery. Of course, it's been sitting for 3+ years, so who
> knows. If I don't buy it, I'll let you know. This guy's pretty lazy (as
> evidenced by him leaving his jeep sit for 3 years just because the starter
> went), so I'm pretty sure he hasn't advertised it at all. He's pretty much
> waiting for us to make a move.
> Richmond's only about an hour and a half from here.
>
> Carl S wrote:
>> For a cheap YJ, maybe. I have a place in Richmond I could take it to...
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:epjhk1$j07$1@aioe.org...
>>>> If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)
>>> You coming all the way from Idaho to pick it up? :)
>>> Haha, no I'm not selling it anytime soon - I have big plans for this
>>> truck (of course, it remains to be seen if they come to fruition)
>>>
>>> Carl S wrote:
>>>> If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>>>
>>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:epitb9$4h5$1@aioe.org...
>>>>> I tried a new filter, no help. I wonder if perhaps the oil pressure
>>>>> sensor is bad? There is a sensor on the oil filter mount - I pulled
>>>>> it, and it was covered in oil. Is there a way to manually check oil
>>>>> pressure?
>>>>> What would the oil pressure relief valve look like?
>>>>> Oh, and Murphy's Law has kicked in - the car won't start. The starter
>>>>> is turning, but it won't catch. It's started fine up to this point,
>>>>> and it seems like I have fuel pressure. When I crank it over, the
>>>>> temp gauge pegs - what would that mean?
>>>>> I figured this was as good a time as any to check the distributor, and
>>>>> the posts for cyls 1 and 6 were corroded. I doubt this caused the
>>>>> problem, but I'm going to replace the cap, wires, and plugs anyway.
>>>>> Might as well do the coil too?
>>>>> I know I can't expect much from a $500 car, but jeez, it's just one
>>>>> thing after another.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>>> Other causes of low oil pressure could be bearings worn out, oil pump
>>>>>> clogged or worn out, starved input or an internal engine oil passage
>>>>>> leaking. Those are all pretty unlikely, but one never knows. There
>>>>>> is an
>>>>>> oil pressure relief valve, sometimes in the pump and sometimes in the
>>>>>> adapter you are playing with, that can be stuck open. You can get a
>>>>>> bad oil
>>>>>> filter too. Usually only one thing goes wrong at a time, but there's
>>>>>> Murphy's Law.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The manual I have is pretty skimpy with information on the oil filter
>>>>>> adapter, but if there are several ways to line it up you may have a
>>>>>> wrong
>>>>>> one now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Earle
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:epijip$cjp$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>>> I bought the o-rings from the dealer, my dad put them in today while
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> was at work. The oil pressure is still pretty much zero.
>>>>>>> Does one of the holes in the male piece have to line up with the
>>>>>>> hole in
>>>>>>> the female piece? I don't have any pictures, but if need be I can
>>>>>>> pull
>>>>>>> it apart and get pictures.
>>>>>>> So is the oil pressure probably related to the oil filter mount or
>>>>>>> should I be looking elsewhere? I'm thinking it's the former,
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>> the oil pressure was fine before I messed with the filter mount.
>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If this got sent out twice I apologize.
>>>>> --
>>>>> ࡱ
>>>>
>>> --
>>> ࡱ

>>
>>

>
> --
> ࡱ




Carl S 01-30-2007 12:27 AM

Re: oil filter mount
 
If you don't buy it, let me know and I will.

Carl

"The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
news:epmklk$kkq$1@aioe.org...
> I'm looking at an '89 for $1k that's owned by a guy my dad works with. The
> body and frame are pretty much rust free (except for some surface rust on
> some hinges, but who cares). He says the 4.2L runs, but it needs a
> starter and battery. Of course, it's been sitting for 3+ years, so who
> knows. If I don't buy it, I'll let you know. This guy's pretty lazy (as
> evidenced by him leaving his jeep sit for 3 years just because the starter
> went), so I'm pretty sure he hasn't advertised it at all. He's pretty much
> waiting for us to make a move.
> Richmond's only about an hour and a half from here.
>
> Carl S wrote:
>> For a cheap YJ, maybe. I have a place in Richmond I could take it to...
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:epjhk1$j07$1@aioe.org...
>>>> If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)
>>> You coming all the way from Idaho to pick it up? :)
>>> Haha, no I'm not selling it anytime soon - I have big plans for this
>>> truck (of course, it remains to be seen if they come to fruition)
>>>
>>> Carl S wrote:
>>>> If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>>>
>>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:epitb9$4h5$1@aioe.org...
>>>>> I tried a new filter, no help. I wonder if perhaps the oil pressure
>>>>> sensor is bad? There is a sensor on the oil filter mount - I pulled
>>>>> it, and it was covered in oil. Is there a way to manually check oil
>>>>> pressure?
>>>>> What would the oil pressure relief valve look like?
>>>>> Oh, and Murphy's Law has kicked in - the car won't start. The starter
>>>>> is turning, but it won't catch. It's started fine up to this point,
>>>>> and it seems like I have fuel pressure. When I crank it over, the
>>>>> temp gauge pegs - what would that mean?
>>>>> I figured this was as good a time as any to check the distributor, and
>>>>> the posts for cyls 1 and 6 were corroded. I doubt this caused the
>>>>> problem, but I'm going to replace the cap, wires, and plugs anyway.
>>>>> Might as well do the coil too?
>>>>> I know I can't expect much from a $500 car, but jeez, it's just one
>>>>> thing after another.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>>> Other causes of low oil pressure could be bearings worn out, oil pump
>>>>>> clogged or worn out, starved input or an internal engine oil passage
>>>>>> leaking. Those are all pretty unlikely, but one never knows. There
>>>>>> is an
>>>>>> oil pressure relief valve, sometimes in the pump and sometimes in the
>>>>>> adapter you are playing with, that can be stuck open. You can get a
>>>>>> bad oil
>>>>>> filter too. Usually only one thing goes wrong at a time, but there's
>>>>>> Murphy's Law.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The manual I have is pretty skimpy with information on the oil filter
>>>>>> adapter, but if there are several ways to line it up you may have a
>>>>>> wrong
>>>>>> one now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Earle
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:epijip$cjp$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>>> I bought the o-rings from the dealer, my dad put them in today while
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> was at work. The oil pressure is still pretty much zero.
>>>>>>> Does one of the holes in the male piece have to line up with the
>>>>>>> hole in
>>>>>>> the female piece? I don't have any pictures, but if need be I can
>>>>>>> pull
>>>>>>> it apart and get pictures.
>>>>>>> So is the oil pressure probably related to the oil filter mount or
>>>>>>> should I be looking elsewhere? I'm thinking it's the former,
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>> the oil pressure was fine before I messed with the filter mount.
>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If this got sent out twice I apologize.
>>>>> --
>>>>> ࡱ
>>>>
>>> --
>>> ࡱ

>>
>>

>
> --
> ࡱ




Carl S 01-30-2007 12:27 AM

Re: oil filter mount
 
If you don't buy it, let me know and I will.

Carl

"The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
news:epmklk$kkq$1@aioe.org...
> I'm looking at an '89 for $1k that's owned by a guy my dad works with. The
> body and frame are pretty much rust free (except for some surface rust on
> some hinges, but who cares). He says the 4.2L runs, but it needs a
> starter and battery. Of course, it's been sitting for 3+ years, so who
> knows. If I don't buy it, I'll let you know. This guy's pretty lazy (as
> evidenced by him leaving his jeep sit for 3 years just because the starter
> went), so I'm pretty sure he hasn't advertised it at all. He's pretty much
> waiting for us to make a move.
> Richmond's only about an hour and a half from here.
>
> Carl S wrote:
>> For a cheap YJ, maybe. I have a place in Richmond I could take it to...
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:epjhk1$j07$1@aioe.org...
>>>> If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)
>>> You coming all the way from Idaho to pick it up? :)
>>> Haha, no I'm not selling it anytime soon - I have big plans for this
>>> truck (of course, it remains to be seen if they come to fruition)
>>>
>>> Carl S wrote:
>>>> If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>>>
>>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:epitb9$4h5$1@aioe.org...
>>>>> I tried a new filter, no help. I wonder if perhaps the oil pressure
>>>>> sensor is bad? There is a sensor on the oil filter mount - I pulled
>>>>> it, and it was covered in oil. Is there a way to manually check oil
>>>>> pressure?
>>>>> What would the oil pressure relief valve look like?
>>>>> Oh, and Murphy's Law has kicked in - the car won't start. The starter
>>>>> is turning, but it won't catch. It's started fine up to this point,
>>>>> and it seems like I have fuel pressure. When I crank it over, the
>>>>> temp gauge pegs - what would that mean?
>>>>> I figured this was as good a time as any to check the distributor, and
>>>>> the posts for cyls 1 and 6 were corroded. I doubt this caused the
>>>>> problem, but I'm going to replace the cap, wires, and plugs anyway.
>>>>> Might as well do the coil too?
>>>>> I know I can't expect much from a $500 car, but jeez, it's just one
>>>>> thing after another.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>>> Other causes of low oil pressure could be bearings worn out, oil pump
>>>>>> clogged or worn out, starved input or an internal engine oil passage
>>>>>> leaking. Those are all pretty unlikely, but one never knows. There
>>>>>> is an
>>>>>> oil pressure relief valve, sometimes in the pump and sometimes in the
>>>>>> adapter you are playing with, that can be stuck open. You can get a
>>>>>> bad oil
>>>>>> filter too. Usually only one thing goes wrong at a time, but there's
>>>>>> Murphy's Law.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The manual I have is pretty skimpy with information on the oil filter
>>>>>> adapter, but if there are several ways to line it up you may have a
>>>>>> wrong
>>>>>> one now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Earle
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:epijip$cjp$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>>> I bought the o-rings from the dealer, my dad put them in today while
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> was at work. The oil pressure is still pretty much zero.
>>>>>>> Does one of the holes in the male piece have to line up with the
>>>>>>> hole in
>>>>>>> the female piece? I don't have any pictures, but if need be I can
>>>>>>> pull
>>>>>>> it apart and get pictures.
>>>>>>> So is the oil pressure probably related to the oil filter mount or
>>>>>>> should I be looking elsewhere? I'm thinking it's the former,
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>> the oil pressure was fine before I messed with the filter mount.
>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If this got sent out twice I apologize.
>>>>> --
>>>>> ࡱ
>>>>
>>> --
>>> ࡱ

>>
>>

>
> --
> ࡱ




Carl S 01-30-2007 12:27 AM

Re: oil filter mount
 
If you don't buy it, let me know and I will.

Carl

"The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
news:epmklk$kkq$1@aioe.org...
> I'm looking at an '89 for $1k that's owned by a guy my dad works with. The
> body and frame are pretty much rust free (except for some surface rust on
> some hinges, but who cares). He says the 4.2L runs, but it needs a
> starter and battery. Of course, it's been sitting for 3+ years, so who
> knows. If I don't buy it, I'll let you know. This guy's pretty lazy (as
> evidenced by him leaving his jeep sit for 3 years just because the starter
> went), so I'm pretty sure he hasn't advertised it at all. He's pretty much
> waiting for us to make a move.
> Richmond's only about an hour and a half from here.
>
> Carl S wrote:
>> For a cheap YJ, maybe. I have a place in Richmond I could take it to...
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:epjhk1$j07$1@aioe.org...
>>>> If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)
>>> You coming all the way from Idaho to pick it up? :)
>>> Haha, no I'm not selling it anytime soon - I have big plans for this
>>> truck (of course, it remains to be seen if they come to fruition)
>>>
>>> Carl S wrote:
>>>> If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Carl
>>>>
>>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:epitb9$4h5$1@aioe.org...
>>>>> I tried a new filter, no help. I wonder if perhaps the oil pressure
>>>>> sensor is bad? There is a sensor on the oil filter mount - I pulled
>>>>> it, and it was covered in oil. Is there a way to manually check oil
>>>>> pressure?
>>>>> What would the oil pressure relief valve look like?
>>>>> Oh, and Murphy's Law has kicked in - the car won't start. The starter
>>>>> is turning, but it won't catch. It's started fine up to this point,
>>>>> and it seems like I have fuel pressure. When I crank it over, the
>>>>> temp gauge pegs - what would that mean?
>>>>> I figured this was as good a time as any to check the distributor, and
>>>>> the posts for cyls 1 and 6 were corroded. I doubt this caused the
>>>>> problem, but I'm going to replace the cap, wires, and plugs anyway.
>>>>> Might as well do the coil too?
>>>>> I know I can't expect much from a $500 car, but jeez, it's just one
>>>>> thing after another.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>>> Other causes of low oil pressure could be bearings worn out, oil pump
>>>>>> clogged or worn out, starved input or an internal engine oil passage
>>>>>> leaking. Those are all pretty unlikely, but one never knows. There
>>>>>> is an
>>>>>> oil pressure relief valve, sometimes in the pump and sometimes in the
>>>>>> adapter you are playing with, that can be stuck open. You can get a
>>>>>> bad oil
>>>>>> filter too. Usually only one thing goes wrong at a time, but there's
>>>>>> Murphy's Law.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The manual I have is pretty skimpy with information on the oil filter
>>>>>> adapter, but if there are several ways to line it up you may have a
>>>>>> wrong
>>>>>> one now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Earle
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:epijip$cjp$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>>> I bought the o-rings from the dealer, my dad put them in today while
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> was at work. The oil pressure is still pretty much zero.
>>>>>>> Does one of the holes in the male piece have to line up with the
>>>>>>> hole in
>>>>>>> the female piece? I don't have any pictures, but if need be I can
>>>>>>> pull
>>>>>>> it apart and get pictures.
>>>>>>> So is the oil pressure probably related to the oil filter mount or
>>>>>>> should I be looking elsewhere? I'm thinking it's the former,
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>> the oil pressure was fine before I messed with the filter mount.
>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If this got sent out twice I apologize.
>>>>> --
>>>>> ࡱ
>>>>
>>> --
>>> ࡱ

>>
>>

>
> --
> ࡱ




The Merg 01-30-2007 12:35 AM

Re: oil filter mount
 
You're at the top of the list.
I want it, but it'll come down to the finances. The decision will
probably be made next Friday (payday).
If I buy it, I'll post to let everyone know of my great fortune. If I
don't buy it, I'll post (or just email you) to let you know the details.
Hell, if I don't benefit from this, I figure a true Jeeper ought to.

Carl S wrote:
> If you don't buy it, let me know and I will.
>
> Carl
>
> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:epmklk$kkq$1@aioe.org...
>> I'm looking at an '89 for $1k that's owned by a guy my dad works with. The
>> body and frame are pretty much rust free (except for some surface rust on
>> some hinges, but who cares). He says the 4.2L runs, but it needs a
>> starter and battery. Of course, it's been sitting for 3+ years, so who
>> knows. If I don't buy it, I'll let you know. This guy's pretty lazy (as
>> evidenced by him leaving his jeep sit for 3 years just because the starter
>> went), so I'm pretty sure he hasn't advertised it at all. He's pretty much
>> waiting for us to make a move.
>> Richmond's only about an hour and a half from here.
>>
>> Carl S wrote:
>>> For a cheap YJ, maybe. I have a place in Richmond I could take it to...
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>>
>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:epjhk1$j07$1@aioe.org...
>>>>> If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)
>>>> You coming all the way from Idaho to pick it up? :)
>>>> Haha, no I'm not selling it anytime soon - I have big plans for this
>>>> truck (of course, it remains to be seen if they come to fruition)
>>>>
>>>> Carl S wrote:
>>>>> If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Carl
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:epitb9$4h5$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>> I tried a new filter, no help. I wonder if perhaps the oil pressure
>>>>>> sensor is bad? There is a sensor on the oil filter mount - I pulled
>>>>>> it, and it was covered in oil. Is there a way to manually check oil
>>>>>> pressure?
>>>>>> What would the oil pressure relief valve look like?
>>>>>> Oh, and Murphy's Law has kicked in - the car won't start. The starter
>>>>>> is turning, but it won't catch. It's started fine up to this point,
>>>>>> and it seems like I have fuel pressure. When I crank it over, the
>>>>>> temp gauge pegs - what would that mean?
>>>>>> I figured this was as good a time as any to check the distributor, and
>>>>>> the posts for cyls 1 and 6 were corroded. I doubt this caused the
>>>>>> problem, but I'm going to replace the cap, wires, and plugs anyway.
>>>>>> Might as well do the coil too?
>>>>>> I know I can't expect much from a $500 car, but jeez, it's just one
>>>>>> thing after another.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>>>> Other causes of low oil pressure could be bearings worn out, oil pump
>>>>>>> clogged or worn out, starved input or an internal engine oil passage
>>>>>>> leaking. Those are all pretty unlikely, but one never knows. There
>>>>>>> is an
>>>>>>> oil pressure relief valve, sometimes in the pump and sometimes in the
>>>>>>> adapter you are playing with, that can be stuck open. You can get a
>>>>>>> bad oil
>>>>>>> filter too. Usually only one thing goes wrong at a time, but there's
>>>>>>> Murphy's Law.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The manual I have is pretty skimpy with information on the oil filter
>>>>>>> adapter, but if there are several ways to line it up you may have a
>>>>>>> wrong
>>>>>>> one now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Earle
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:epijip$cjp$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>>>> I bought the o-rings from the dealer, my dad put them in today while
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> was at work. The oil pressure is still pretty much zero.
>>>>>>>> Does one of the holes in the male piece have to line up with the
>>>>>>>> hole in
>>>>>>>> the female piece? I don't have any pictures, but if need be I can
>>>>>>>> pull
>>>>>>>> it apart and get pictures.
>>>>>>>> So is the oil pressure probably related to the oil filter mount or
>>>>>>>> should I be looking elsewhere? I'm thinking it's the former,
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>> the oil pressure was fine before I messed with the filter mount.
>>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If this got sent out twice I apologize.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ࡱ
>>>> --
>>>> ࡱ
>>>

>> --
>> ࡱ

>
>


--
ࡱ

The Merg 01-30-2007 12:35 AM

Re: oil filter mount
 
You're at the top of the list.
I want it, but it'll come down to the finances. The decision will
probably be made next Friday (payday).
If I buy it, I'll post to let everyone know of my great fortune. If I
don't buy it, I'll post (or just email you) to let you know the details.
Hell, if I don't benefit from this, I figure a true Jeeper ought to.

Carl S wrote:
> If you don't buy it, let me know and I will.
>
> Carl
>
> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:epmklk$kkq$1@aioe.org...
>> I'm looking at an '89 for $1k that's owned by a guy my dad works with. The
>> body and frame are pretty much rust free (except for some surface rust on
>> some hinges, but who cares). He says the 4.2L runs, but it needs a
>> starter and battery. Of course, it's been sitting for 3+ years, so who
>> knows. If I don't buy it, I'll let you know. This guy's pretty lazy (as
>> evidenced by him leaving his jeep sit for 3 years just because the starter
>> went), so I'm pretty sure he hasn't advertised it at all. He's pretty much
>> waiting for us to make a move.
>> Richmond's only about an hour and a half from here.
>>
>> Carl S wrote:
>>> For a cheap YJ, maybe. I have a place in Richmond I could take it to...
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>>
>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:epjhk1$j07$1@aioe.org...
>>>>> If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)
>>>> You coming all the way from Idaho to pick it up? :)
>>>> Haha, no I'm not selling it anytime soon - I have big plans for this
>>>> truck (of course, it remains to be seen if they come to fruition)
>>>>
>>>> Carl S wrote:
>>>>> If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Carl
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:epitb9$4h5$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>> I tried a new filter, no help. I wonder if perhaps the oil pressure
>>>>>> sensor is bad? There is a sensor on the oil filter mount - I pulled
>>>>>> it, and it was covered in oil. Is there a way to manually check oil
>>>>>> pressure?
>>>>>> What would the oil pressure relief valve look like?
>>>>>> Oh, and Murphy's Law has kicked in - the car won't start. The starter
>>>>>> is turning, but it won't catch. It's started fine up to this point,
>>>>>> and it seems like I have fuel pressure. When I crank it over, the
>>>>>> temp gauge pegs - what would that mean?
>>>>>> I figured this was as good a time as any to check the distributor, and
>>>>>> the posts for cyls 1 and 6 were corroded. I doubt this caused the
>>>>>> problem, but I'm going to replace the cap, wires, and plugs anyway.
>>>>>> Might as well do the coil too?
>>>>>> I know I can't expect much from a $500 car, but jeez, it's just one
>>>>>> thing after another.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>>>> Other causes of low oil pressure could be bearings worn out, oil pump
>>>>>>> clogged or worn out, starved input or an internal engine oil passage
>>>>>>> leaking. Those are all pretty unlikely, but one never knows. There
>>>>>>> is an
>>>>>>> oil pressure relief valve, sometimes in the pump and sometimes in the
>>>>>>> adapter you are playing with, that can be stuck open. You can get a
>>>>>>> bad oil
>>>>>>> filter too. Usually only one thing goes wrong at a time, but there's
>>>>>>> Murphy's Law.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The manual I have is pretty skimpy with information on the oil filter
>>>>>>> adapter, but if there are several ways to line it up you may have a
>>>>>>> wrong
>>>>>>> one now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Earle
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:epijip$cjp$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>>>> I bought the o-rings from the dealer, my dad put them in today while
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> was at work. The oil pressure is still pretty much zero.
>>>>>>>> Does one of the holes in the male piece have to line up with the
>>>>>>>> hole in
>>>>>>>> the female piece? I don't have any pictures, but if need be I can
>>>>>>>> pull
>>>>>>>> it apart and get pictures.
>>>>>>>> So is the oil pressure probably related to the oil filter mount or
>>>>>>>> should I be looking elsewhere? I'm thinking it's the former,
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>> the oil pressure was fine before I messed with the filter mount.
>>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If this got sent out twice I apologize.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ࡱ
>>>> --
>>>> ࡱ
>>>

>> --
>> ࡱ

>
>


--
ࡱ

The Merg 01-30-2007 12:35 AM

Re: oil filter mount
 
You're at the top of the list.
I want it, but it'll come down to the finances. The decision will
probably be made next Friday (payday).
If I buy it, I'll post to let everyone know of my great fortune. If I
don't buy it, I'll post (or just email you) to let you know the details.
Hell, if I don't benefit from this, I figure a true Jeeper ought to.

Carl S wrote:
> If you don't buy it, let me know and I will.
>
> Carl
>
> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:epmklk$kkq$1@aioe.org...
>> I'm looking at an '89 for $1k that's owned by a guy my dad works with. The
>> body and frame are pretty much rust free (except for some surface rust on
>> some hinges, but who cares). He says the 4.2L runs, but it needs a
>> starter and battery. Of course, it's been sitting for 3+ years, so who
>> knows. If I don't buy it, I'll let you know. This guy's pretty lazy (as
>> evidenced by him leaving his jeep sit for 3 years just because the starter
>> went), so I'm pretty sure he hasn't advertised it at all. He's pretty much
>> waiting for us to make a move.
>> Richmond's only about an hour and a half from here.
>>
>> Carl S wrote:
>>> For a cheap YJ, maybe. I have a place in Richmond I could take it to...
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>>
>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:epjhk1$j07$1@aioe.org...
>>>>> If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)
>>>> You coming all the way from Idaho to pick it up? :)
>>>> Haha, no I'm not selling it anytime soon - I have big plans for this
>>>> truck (of course, it remains to be seen if they come to fruition)
>>>>
>>>> Carl S wrote:
>>>>> If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Carl
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:epitb9$4h5$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>> I tried a new filter, no help. I wonder if perhaps the oil pressure
>>>>>> sensor is bad? There is a sensor on the oil filter mount - I pulled
>>>>>> it, and it was covered in oil. Is there a way to manually check oil
>>>>>> pressure?
>>>>>> What would the oil pressure relief valve look like?
>>>>>> Oh, and Murphy's Law has kicked in - the car won't start. The starter
>>>>>> is turning, but it won't catch. It's started fine up to this point,
>>>>>> and it seems like I have fuel pressure. When I crank it over, the
>>>>>> temp gauge pegs - what would that mean?
>>>>>> I figured this was as good a time as any to check the distributor, and
>>>>>> the posts for cyls 1 and 6 were corroded. I doubt this caused the
>>>>>> problem, but I'm going to replace the cap, wires, and plugs anyway.
>>>>>> Might as well do the coil too?
>>>>>> I know I can't expect much from a $500 car, but jeez, it's just one
>>>>>> thing after another.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>>>> Other causes of low oil pressure could be bearings worn out, oil pump
>>>>>>> clogged or worn out, starved input or an internal engine oil passage
>>>>>>> leaking. Those are all pretty unlikely, but one never knows. There
>>>>>>> is an
>>>>>>> oil pressure relief valve, sometimes in the pump and sometimes in the
>>>>>>> adapter you are playing with, that can be stuck open. You can get a
>>>>>>> bad oil
>>>>>>> filter too. Usually only one thing goes wrong at a time, but there's
>>>>>>> Murphy's Law.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The manual I have is pretty skimpy with information on the oil filter
>>>>>>> adapter, but if there are several ways to line it up you may have a
>>>>>>> wrong
>>>>>>> one now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Earle
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:epijip$cjp$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>>>> I bought the o-rings from the dealer, my dad put them in today while
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> was at work. The oil pressure is still pretty much zero.
>>>>>>>> Does one of the holes in the male piece have to line up with the
>>>>>>>> hole in
>>>>>>>> the female piece? I don't have any pictures, but if need be I can
>>>>>>>> pull
>>>>>>>> it apart and get pictures.
>>>>>>>> So is the oil pressure probably related to the oil filter mount or
>>>>>>>> should I be looking elsewhere? I'm thinking it's the former,
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>> the oil pressure was fine before I messed with the filter mount.
>>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If this got sent out twice I apologize.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ࡱ
>>>> --
>>>> ࡱ
>>>

>> --
>> ࡱ

>
>


--
ࡱ

The Merg 01-30-2007 12:35 AM

Re: oil filter mount
 
You're at the top of the list.
I want it, but it'll come down to the finances. The decision will
probably be made next Friday (payday).
If I buy it, I'll post to let everyone know of my great fortune. If I
don't buy it, I'll post (or just email you) to let you know the details.
Hell, if I don't benefit from this, I figure a true Jeeper ought to.

Carl S wrote:
> If you don't buy it, let me know and I will.
>
> Carl
>
> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:epmklk$kkq$1@aioe.org...
>> I'm looking at an '89 for $1k that's owned by a guy my dad works with. The
>> body and frame are pretty much rust free (except for some surface rust on
>> some hinges, but who cares). He says the 4.2L runs, but it needs a
>> starter and battery. Of course, it's been sitting for 3+ years, so who
>> knows. If I don't buy it, I'll let you know. This guy's pretty lazy (as
>> evidenced by him leaving his jeep sit for 3 years just because the starter
>> went), so I'm pretty sure he hasn't advertised it at all. He's pretty much
>> waiting for us to make a move.
>> Richmond's only about an hour and a half from here.
>>
>> Carl S wrote:
>>> For a cheap YJ, maybe. I have a place in Richmond I could take it to...
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>>
>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:epjhk1$j07$1@aioe.org...
>>>>> If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)
>>>> You coming all the way from Idaho to pick it up? :)
>>>> Haha, no I'm not selling it anytime soon - I have big plans for this
>>>> truck (of course, it remains to be seen if they come to fruition)
>>>>
>>>> Carl S wrote:
>>>>> If you decide to sell it, let me know. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Carl
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:epitb9$4h5$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>> I tried a new filter, no help. I wonder if perhaps the oil pressure
>>>>>> sensor is bad? There is a sensor on the oil filter mount - I pulled
>>>>>> it, and it was covered in oil. Is there a way to manually check oil
>>>>>> pressure?
>>>>>> What would the oil pressure relief valve look like?
>>>>>> Oh, and Murphy's Law has kicked in - the car won't start. The starter
>>>>>> is turning, but it won't catch. It's started fine up to this point,
>>>>>> and it seems like I have fuel pressure. When I crank it over, the
>>>>>> temp gauge pegs - what would that mean?
>>>>>> I figured this was as good a time as any to check the distributor, and
>>>>>> the posts for cyls 1 and 6 were corroded. I doubt this caused the
>>>>>> problem, but I'm going to replace the cap, wires, and plugs anyway.
>>>>>> Might as well do the coil too?
>>>>>> I know I can't expect much from a $500 car, but jeez, it's just one
>>>>>> thing after another.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>>>> Other causes of low oil pressure could be bearings worn out, oil pump
>>>>>>> clogged or worn out, starved input or an internal engine oil passage
>>>>>>> leaking. Those are all pretty unlikely, but one never knows. There
>>>>>>> is an
>>>>>>> oil pressure relief valve, sometimes in the pump and sometimes in the
>>>>>>> adapter you are playing with, that can be stuck open. You can get a
>>>>>>> bad oil
>>>>>>> filter too. Usually only one thing goes wrong at a time, but there's
>>>>>>> Murphy's Law.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The manual I have is pretty skimpy with information on the oil filter
>>>>>>> adapter, but if there are several ways to line it up you may have a
>>>>>>> wrong
>>>>>>> one now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Earle
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:epijip$cjp$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>>>> I bought the o-rings from the dealer, my dad put them in today while
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> was at work. The oil pressure is still pretty much zero.
>>>>>>>> Does one of the holes in the male piece have to line up with the
>>>>>>>> hole in
>>>>>>>> the female piece? I don't have any pictures, but if need be I can
>>>>>>>> pull
>>>>>>>> it apart and get pictures.
>>>>>>>> So is the oil pressure probably related to the oil filter mount or
>>>>>>>> should I be looking elsewhere? I'm thinking it's the former,
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>> the oil pressure was fine before I messed with the filter mount.
>>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If this got sent out twice I apologize.
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>>>>>> ࡱ
>>>> --
>>>> ࡱ
>>>

>> --
>> ࡱ

>
>


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The Merg 01-30-2007 03:07 PM

Oil pressure problem fixed
 
Hey guys,
I used a mechanical gauge, it has pressure. I replaced the sensor,
everything's back to normal - that is, as normal as can be with this thing.
I don't know if I mentioned this, but at some point over the last couple
of days working on it, I snapped what I think is a heater hose coupling.
Completely shattered it.
It's still running roughly - it starts up, runs fine for a few seconds,
then wants to shut off unless I give it gas.
I replaced the distributor cap, rotor, wires and plugs over the weekend.
Where should I be looking?
Reminder, it's a '92 XJ 4.0L

The Merg 01-30-2007 03:07 PM

Oil pressure problem fixed
 
Hey guys,
I used a mechanical gauge, it has pressure. I replaced the sensor,
everything's back to normal - that is, as normal as can be with this thing.
I don't know if I mentioned this, but at some point over the last couple
of days working on it, I snapped what I think is a heater hose coupling.
Completely shattered it.
It's still running roughly - it starts up, runs fine for a few seconds,
then wants to shut off unless I give it gas.
I replaced the distributor cap, rotor, wires and plugs over the weekend.
Where should I be looking?
Reminder, it's a '92 XJ 4.0L

The Merg 01-30-2007 03:07 PM

Oil pressure problem fixed
 
Hey guys,
I used a mechanical gauge, it has pressure. I replaced the sensor,
everything's back to normal - that is, as normal as can be with this thing.
I don't know if I mentioned this, but at some point over the last couple
of days working on it, I snapped what I think is a heater hose coupling.
Completely shattered it.
It's still running roughly - it starts up, runs fine for a few seconds,
then wants to shut off unless I give it gas.
I replaced the distributor cap, rotor, wires and plugs over the weekend.
Where should I be looking?
Reminder, it's a '92 XJ 4.0L

The Merg 01-30-2007 03:07 PM

Oil pressure problem fixed
 
Hey guys,
I used a mechanical gauge, it has pressure. I replaced the sensor,
everything's back to normal - that is, as normal as can be with this thing.
I don't know if I mentioned this, but at some point over the last couple
of days working on it, I snapped what I think is a heater hose coupling.
Completely shattered it.
It's still running roughly - it starts up, runs fine for a few seconds,
then wants to shut off unless I give it gas.
I replaced the distributor cap, rotor, wires and plugs over the weekend.
Where should I be looking?
Reminder, it's a '92 XJ 4.0L

The Merg 01-30-2007 03:20 PM

Re: Oil pressure problem fixed
 
And now I've snapped the CCV outtake elbow. Am I snapping all these
plastic parts because it's too cold or are they just old?

The Merg wrote:
> Hey guys,
> I used a mechanical gauge, it has pressure. I replaced the sensor,
> everything's back to normal - that is, as normal as can be with this thing.
> I don't know if I mentioned this, but at some point over the last couple
> of days working on it, I snapped what I think is a heater hose coupling.
> Completely shattered it.
> It's still running roughly - it starts up, runs fine for a few seconds,
> then wants to shut off unless I give it gas.
> I replaced the distributor cap, rotor, wires and plugs over the weekend.
> Where should I be looking?
> Reminder, it's a '92 XJ 4.0L


--
ࡱ

The Merg 01-30-2007 03:20 PM

Re: Oil pressure problem fixed
 
And now I've snapped the CCV outtake elbow. Am I snapping all these
plastic parts because it's too cold or are they just old?

The Merg wrote:
> Hey guys,
> I used a mechanical gauge, it has pressure. I replaced the sensor,
> everything's back to normal - that is, as normal as can be with this thing.
> I don't know if I mentioned this, but at some point over the last couple
> of days working on it, I snapped what I think is a heater hose coupling.
> Completely shattered it.
> It's still running roughly - it starts up, runs fine for a few seconds,
> then wants to shut off unless I give it gas.
> I replaced the distributor cap, rotor, wires and plugs over the weekend.
> Where should I be looking?
> Reminder, it's a '92 XJ 4.0L


--
ࡱ

The Merg 01-30-2007 03:20 PM

Re: Oil pressure problem fixed
 
And now I've snapped the CCV outtake elbow. Am I snapping all these
plastic parts because it's too cold or are they just old?

The Merg wrote:
> Hey guys,
> I used a mechanical gauge, it has pressure. I replaced the sensor,
> everything's back to normal - that is, as normal as can be with this thing.
> I don't know if I mentioned this, but at some point over the last couple
> of days working on it, I snapped what I think is a heater hose coupling.
> Completely shattered it.
> It's still running roughly - it starts up, runs fine for a few seconds,
> then wants to shut off unless I give it gas.
> I replaced the distributor cap, rotor, wires and plugs over the weekend.
> Where should I be looking?
> Reminder, it's a '92 XJ 4.0L


--
ࡱ

The Merg 01-30-2007 03:20 PM

Re: Oil pressure problem fixed
 
And now I've snapped the CCV outtake elbow. Am I snapping all these
plastic parts because it's too cold or are they just old?

The Merg wrote:
> Hey guys,
> I used a mechanical gauge, it has pressure. I replaced the sensor,
> everything's back to normal - that is, as normal as can be with this thing.
> I don't know if I mentioned this, but at some point over the last couple
> of days working on it, I snapped what I think is a heater hose coupling.
> Completely shattered it.
> It's still running roughly - it starts up, runs fine for a few seconds,
> then wants to shut off unless I give it gas.
> I replaced the distributor cap, rotor, wires and plugs over the weekend.
> Where should I be looking?
> Reminder, it's a '92 XJ 4.0L


--
ࡱ

The Merg 01-30-2007 04:12 PM

Re: Oil pressure problem fixed
 
Yeah, the throttle body was removed and thoroughly cleaned, new gasket.
I'm not entirely sure about this, but I think it's gotten worse since
the throttle body was cleaned. But I've done so many other things since
then, I can't really tie it to one thing that I've done.

I probably should have warmed it up, but I don't like the way it's
running so I don't want to run it too long.


Earle Horton wrote:
> Both. Warm up the engine next time, and then work the part out gently. The
> rubber grommet is probably hard as a rock too. Maybe heat will soften it
> up. Clean the throttle body and idle passage yet?
>
> Earle
>
> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:epo99v$ooa$1@aioe.org...
>> And now I've snapped the CCV outtake elbow. Am I snapping all these
>> plastic parts because it's too cold or are they just old?
>>
>> The Merg wrote:
>>> Hey guys,
>>> I used a mechanical gauge, it has pressure. I replaced the sensor,
>>> everything's back to normal - that is, as normal as can be with this

> thing.
>>> I don't know if I mentioned this, but at some point over the last couple
>>> of days working on it, I snapped what I think is a heater hose coupling.
>>> Completely shattered it.
>>> It's still running roughly - it starts up, runs fine for a few seconds,
>>> then wants to shut off unless I give it gas.
>>> I replaced the distributor cap, rotor, wires and plugs over the weekend.
>>> Where should I be looking?
>>> Reminder, it's a '92 XJ 4.0L

>> --
>> ࡱ

>
>


--
ࡱ

The Merg 01-30-2007 04:12 PM

Re: Oil pressure problem fixed
 
Yeah, the throttle body was removed and thoroughly cleaned, new gasket.
I'm not entirely sure about this, but I think it's gotten worse since
the throttle body was cleaned. But I've done so many other things since
then, I can't really tie it to one thing that I've done.

I probably should have warmed it up, but I don't like the way it's
running so I don't want to run it too long.


Earle Horton wrote:
> Both. Warm up the engine next time, and then work the part out gently. The
> rubber grommet is probably hard as a rock too. Maybe heat will soften it
> up. Clean the throttle body and idle passage yet?
>
> Earle
>
> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:epo99v$ooa$1@aioe.org...
>> And now I've snapped the CCV outtake elbow. Am I snapping all these
>> plastic parts because it's too cold or are they just old?
>>
>> The Merg wrote:
>>> Hey guys,
>>> I used a mechanical gauge, it has pressure. I replaced the sensor,
>>> everything's back to normal - that is, as normal as can be with this

> thing.
>>> I don't know if I mentioned this, but at some point over the last couple
>>> of days working on it, I snapped what I think is a heater hose coupling.
>>> Completely shattered it.
>>> It's still running roughly - it starts up, runs fine for a few seconds,
>>> then wants to shut off unless I give it gas.
>>> I replaced the distributor cap, rotor, wires and plugs over the weekend.
>>> Where should I be looking?
>>> Reminder, it's a '92 XJ 4.0L

>> --
>> ࡱ

>
>


--
ࡱ

The Merg 01-30-2007 04:12 PM

Re: Oil pressure problem fixed
 
Yeah, the throttle body was removed and thoroughly cleaned, new gasket.
I'm not entirely sure about this, but I think it's gotten worse since
the throttle body was cleaned. But I've done so many other things since
then, I can't really tie it to one thing that I've done.

I probably should have warmed it up, but I don't like the way it's
running so I don't want to run it too long.


Earle Horton wrote:
> Both. Warm up the engine next time, and then work the part out gently. The
> rubber grommet is probably hard as a rock too. Maybe heat will soften it
> up. Clean the throttle body and idle passage yet?
>
> Earle
>
> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:epo99v$ooa$1@aioe.org...
>> And now I've snapped the CCV outtake elbow. Am I snapping all these
>> plastic parts because it's too cold or are they just old?
>>
>> The Merg wrote:
>>> Hey guys,
>>> I used a mechanical gauge, it has pressure. I replaced the sensor,
>>> everything's back to normal - that is, as normal as can be with this

> thing.
>>> I don't know if I mentioned this, but at some point over the last couple
>>> of days working on it, I snapped what I think is a heater hose coupling.
>>> Completely shattered it.
>>> It's still running roughly - it starts up, runs fine for a few seconds,
>>> then wants to shut off unless I give it gas.
>>> I replaced the distributor cap, rotor, wires and plugs over the weekend.
>>> Where should I be looking?
>>> Reminder, it's a '92 XJ 4.0L

>> --
>> ࡱ

>
>


--
ࡱ

The Merg 01-30-2007 04:12 PM

Re: Oil pressure problem fixed
 
Yeah, the throttle body was removed and thoroughly cleaned, new gasket.
I'm not entirely sure about this, but I think it's gotten worse since
the throttle body was cleaned. But I've done so many other things since
then, I can't really tie it to one thing that I've done.

I probably should have warmed it up, but I don't like the way it's
running so I don't want to run it too long.


Earle Horton wrote:
> Both. Warm up the engine next time, and then work the part out gently. The
> rubber grommet is probably hard as a rock too. Maybe heat will soften it
> up. Clean the throttle body and idle passage yet?
>
> Earle
>
> "The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:epo99v$ooa$1@aioe.org...
>> And now I've snapped the CCV outtake elbow. Am I snapping all these
>> plastic parts because it's too cold or are they just old?
>>
>> The Merg wrote:
>>> Hey guys,
>>> I used a mechanical gauge, it has pressure. I replaced the sensor,
>>> everything's back to normal - that is, as normal as can be with this

> thing.
>>> I don't know if I mentioned this, but at some point over the last couple
>>> of days working on it, I snapped what I think is a heater hose coupling.
>>> Completely shattered it.
>>> It's still running roughly - it starts up, runs fine for a few seconds,
>>> then wants to shut off unless I give it gas.
>>> I replaced the distributor cap, rotor, wires and plugs over the weekend.
>>> Where should I be looking?
>>> Reminder, it's a '92 XJ 4.0L

>> --
>> ࡱ

>
>


--
ࡱ

Earle Horton 01-30-2007 04:17 PM

Re: Oil pressure problem fixed
 
Both. Warm up the engine next time, and then work the part out gently. The
rubber grommet is probably hard as a rock too. Maybe heat will soften it
up. Clean the throttle body and idle passage yet?

Earle

"The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
news:epo99v$ooa$1@aioe.org...
> And now I've snapped the CCV outtake elbow. Am I snapping all these
> plastic parts because it's too cold or are they just old?
>
> The Merg wrote:
> > Hey guys,
> > I used a mechanical gauge, it has pressure. I replaced the sensor,
> > everything's back to normal - that is, as normal as can be with this

thing.
> > I don't know if I mentioned this, but at some point over the last couple
> > of days working on it, I snapped what I think is a heater hose coupling.
> > Completely shattered it.
> > It's still running roughly - it starts up, runs fine for a few seconds,
> > then wants to shut off unless I give it gas.
> > I replaced the distributor cap, rotor, wires and plugs over the weekend.
> > Where should I be looking?
> > Reminder, it's a '92 XJ 4.0L

>
> --
> ࡱ




Earle Horton 01-30-2007 04:17 PM

Re: Oil pressure problem fixed
 
Both. Warm up the engine next time, and then work the part out gently. The
rubber grommet is probably hard as a rock too. Maybe heat will soften it
up. Clean the throttle body and idle passage yet?

Earle

"The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
news:epo99v$ooa$1@aioe.org...
> And now I've snapped the CCV outtake elbow. Am I snapping all these
> plastic parts because it's too cold or are they just old?
>
> The Merg wrote:
> > Hey guys,
> > I used a mechanical gauge, it has pressure. I replaced the sensor,
> > everything's back to normal - that is, as normal as can be with this

thing.
> > I don't know if I mentioned this, but at some point over the last couple
> > of days working on it, I snapped what I think is a heater hose coupling.
> > Completely shattered it.
> > It's still running roughly - it starts up, runs fine for a few seconds,
> > then wants to shut off unless I give it gas.
> > I replaced the distributor cap, rotor, wires and plugs over the weekend.
> > Where should I be looking?
> > Reminder, it's a '92 XJ 4.0L

>
> --
> ࡱ




Earle Horton 01-30-2007 04:17 PM

Re: Oil pressure problem fixed
 
Both. Warm up the engine next time, and then work the part out gently. The
rubber grommet is probably hard as a rock too. Maybe heat will soften it
up. Clean the throttle body and idle passage yet?

Earle

"The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
news:epo99v$ooa$1@aioe.org...
> And now I've snapped the CCV outtake elbow. Am I snapping all these
> plastic parts because it's too cold or are they just old?
>
> The Merg wrote:
> > Hey guys,
> > I used a mechanical gauge, it has pressure. I replaced the sensor,
> > everything's back to normal - that is, as normal as can be with this

thing.
> > I don't know if I mentioned this, but at some point over the last couple
> > of days working on it, I snapped what I think is a heater hose coupling.
> > Completely shattered it.
> > It's still running roughly - it starts up, runs fine for a few seconds,
> > then wants to shut off unless I give it gas.
> > I replaced the distributor cap, rotor, wires and plugs over the weekend.
> > Where should I be looking?
> > Reminder, it's a '92 XJ 4.0L

>
> --
> ࡱ




Earle Horton 01-30-2007 04:17 PM

Re: Oil pressure problem fixed
 
Both. Warm up the engine next time, and then work the part out gently. The
rubber grommet is probably hard as a rock too. Maybe heat will soften it
up. Clean the throttle body and idle passage yet?

Earle

"The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
news:epo99v$ooa$1@aioe.org...
> And now I've snapped the CCV outtake elbow. Am I snapping all these
> plastic parts because it's too cold or are they just old?
>
> The Merg wrote:
> > Hey guys,
> > I used a mechanical gauge, it has pressure. I replaced the sensor,
> > everything's back to normal - that is, as normal as can be with this

thing.
> > I don't know if I mentioned this, but at some point over the last couple
> > of days working on it, I snapped what I think is a heater hose coupling.
> > Completely shattered it.
> > It's still running roughly - it starts up, runs fine for a few seconds,
> > then wants to shut off unless I give it gas.
> > I replaced the distributor cap, rotor, wires and plugs over the weekend.
> > Where should I be looking?
> > Reminder, it's a '92 XJ 4.0L

>
> --
> ࡱ




Will Honea 01-30-2007 04:45 PM

Re: Oil pressure problem fixed
 
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:12:23 -0500, The Merg wrote:

> Yeah, the throttle body was removed and thoroughly cleaned, new gasket.
> I'm not entirely sure about this, but I think it's gotten worse since
> the throttle body was cleaned. But I've done so many other things since
> then, I can't really tie it to one thing that I've done.
>
> I probably should have warmed it up, but I don't like the way it's
> running so I don't want to run it too long.


Did you clean the shaft on the Idle Air Control motor? You might try
unplugging the IAC and see if it makes any difference. If not, that's
your problem. When I first got my MJ I had idle problems that improved a
little with each fix until a new O2 sensor cleared the last bit of
roughness.

AH! just hit me - that sounds like what I got with a failing fuel pump - I
was losing pressure after it started - but even with added throttle mine
would die pretty quickly.

--
Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>

Will Honea 01-30-2007 04:45 PM

Re: Oil pressure problem fixed
 
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:12:23 -0500, The Merg wrote:

> Yeah, the throttle body was removed and thoroughly cleaned, new gasket.
> I'm not entirely sure about this, but I think it's gotten worse since
> the throttle body was cleaned. But I've done so many other things since
> then, I can't really tie it to one thing that I've done.
>
> I probably should have warmed it up, but I don't like the way it's
> running so I don't want to run it too long.


Did you clean the shaft on the Idle Air Control motor? You might try
unplugging the IAC and see if it makes any difference. If not, that's
your problem. When I first got my MJ I had idle problems that improved a
little with each fix until a new O2 sensor cleared the last bit of
roughness.

AH! just hit me - that sounds like what I got with a failing fuel pump - I
was losing pressure after it started - but even with added throttle mine
would die pretty quickly.

--
Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>

Will Honea 01-30-2007 04:45 PM

Re: Oil pressure problem fixed
 
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:12:23 -0500, The Merg wrote:

> Yeah, the throttle body was removed and thoroughly cleaned, new gasket.
> I'm not entirely sure about this, but I think it's gotten worse since
> the throttle body was cleaned. But I've done so many other things since
> then, I can't really tie it to one thing that I've done.
>
> I probably should have warmed it up, but I don't like the way it's
> running so I don't want to run it too long.


Did you clean the shaft on the Idle Air Control motor? You might try
unplugging the IAC and see if it makes any difference. If not, that's
your problem. When I first got my MJ I had idle problems that improved a
little with each fix until a new O2 sensor cleared the last bit of
roughness.

AH! just hit me - that sounds like what I got with a failing fuel pump - I
was losing pressure after it started - but even with added throttle mine
would die pretty quickly.

--
Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>

Will Honea 01-30-2007 04:45 PM

Re: Oil pressure problem fixed
 
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:12:23 -0500, The Merg wrote:

> Yeah, the throttle body was removed and thoroughly cleaned, new gasket.
> I'm not entirely sure about this, but I think it's gotten worse since
> the throttle body was cleaned. But I've done so many other things since
> then, I can't really tie it to one thing that I've done.
>
> I probably should have warmed it up, but I don't like the way it's
> running so I don't want to run it too long.


Did you clean the shaft on the Idle Air Control motor? You might try
unplugging the IAC and see if it makes any difference. If not, that's
your problem. When I first got my MJ I had idle problems that improved a
little with each fix until a new O2 sensor cleared the last bit of
roughness.

AH! just hit me - that sounds like what I got with a failing fuel pump - I
was losing pressure after it started - but even with added throttle mine
would die pretty quickly.

--
Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com>

Lon 01-30-2007 06:17 PM

Re: Oil pressure problem fixed
 
You might want to describe carefully what parts you've busted, even if
just by location and what they appear to be connected to.

As for old or cold, I would think it would need to be really cold to be
that bad. Replace 'em.


The Merg proclaimed:

> And now I've snapped the CCV outtake elbow. Am I snapping all these
> plastic parts because it's too cold or are they just old?
>
> The Merg wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>> I used a mechanical gauge, it has pressure. I replaced the sensor,
>> everything's back to normal - that is, as normal as can be with this
>> thing.
>> I don't know if I mentioned this, but at some point over the last
>> couple of days working on it, I snapped what I think is a heater hose
>> coupling. Completely shattered it.
>> It's still running roughly - it starts up, runs fine for a few
>> seconds, then wants to shut off unless I give it gas.
>> I replaced the distributor cap, rotor, wires and plugs over the
>> weekend. Where should I be looking?
>> Reminder, it's a '92 XJ 4.0L

>
>


Lon 01-30-2007 06:17 PM

Re: Oil pressure problem fixed
 
You might want to describe carefully what parts you've busted, even if
just by location and what they appear to be connected to.

As for old or cold, I would think it would need to be really cold to be
that bad. Replace 'em.


The Merg proclaimed:

> And now I've snapped the CCV outtake elbow. Am I snapping all these
> plastic parts because it's too cold or are they just old?
>
> The Merg wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>> I used a mechanical gauge, it has pressure. I replaced the sensor,
>> everything's back to normal - that is, as normal as can be with this
>> thing.
>> I don't know if I mentioned this, but at some point over the last
>> couple of days working on it, I snapped what I think is a heater hose
>> coupling. Completely shattered it.
>> It's still running roughly - it starts up, runs fine for a few
>> seconds, then wants to shut off unless I give it gas.
>> I replaced the distributor cap, rotor, wires and plugs over the
>> weekend. Where should I be looking?
>> Reminder, it's a '92 XJ 4.0L

>
>


Lon 01-30-2007 06:17 PM

Re: Oil pressure problem fixed
 
You might want to describe carefully what parts you've busted, even if
just by location and what they appear to be connected to.

As for old or cold, I would think it would need to be really cold to be
that bad. Replace 'em.


The Merg proclaimed:

> And now I've snapped the CCV outtake elbow. Am I snapping all these
> plastic parts because it's too cold or are they just old?
>
> The Merg wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>> I used a mechanical gauge, it has pressure. I replaced the sensor,
>> everything's back to normal - that is, as normal as can be with this
>> thing.
>> I don't know if I mentioned this, but at some point over the last
>> couple of days working on it, I snapped what I think is a heater hose
>> coupling. Completely shattered it.
>> It's still running roughly - it starts up, runs fine for a few
>> seconds, then wants to shut off unless I give it gas.
>> I replaced the distributor cap, rotor, wires and plugs over the
>> weekend. Where should I be looking?
>> Reminder, it's a '92 XJ 4.0L

>
>


Lon 01-30-2007 06:17 PM

Re: Oil pressure problem fixed
 
You might want to describe carefully what parts you've busted, even if
just by location and what they appear to be connected to.

As for old or cold, I would think it would need to be really cold to be
that bad. Replace 'em.


The Merg proclaimed:

> And now I've snapped the CCV outtake elbow. Am I snapping all these
> plastic parts because it's too cold or are they just old?
>
> The Merg wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>> I used a mechanical gauge, it has pressure. I replaced the sensor,
>> everything's back to normal - that is, as normal as can be with this
>> thing.
>> I don't know if I mentioned this, but at some point over the last
>> couple of days working on it, I snapped what I think is a heater hose
>> coupling. Completely shattered it.
>> It's still running roughly - it starts up, runs fine for a few
>> seconds, then wants to shut off unless I give it gas.
>> I replaced the distributor cap, rotor, wires and plugs over the
>> weekend. Where should I be looking?
>> Reminder, it's a '92 XJ 4.0L

>
>


The Merg 01-30-2007 09:47 PM

Re: Oil pressure problem fixed
 
I looked at the check engine code, I got a 13 - MAP sensor.
Seem like that would do it? Or should I replace the MAP sensor, not
expecting it to fix the current problem?

>You might want to describe carefully what parts you've busted, even if
>just by location and what they appear to be connected to.
>As for old or cold, I would think it would need to be really cold to

be >that bad. Replace 'em.

I have to replace 'em, since I shattered 'em. I broke the CCV air
outtakes on both the XJ and YJ and a heater hose coupling (don't know
exactly what it's called, it's four hoses coming together with a small
vacuum).
The rubber on the YJ CCV piece was obviously dried out, so I'm not
surprised that broke when I tried to put it back in. The XJ CCV piece
snapped when I pulled on it not very hard.
The hose coupling shattered when I tried to move it out of the way so I
could get to either the #4 or 5 spark plug.
I didn't put much force on either of the XJ parts and they basically
shattered.


Will Honea wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:12:23 -0500, The Merg wrote:
>
>> Yeah, the throttle body was removed and thoroughly cleaned, new gasket.
>> I'm not entirely sure about this, but I think it's gotten worse since
>> the throttle body was cleaned. But I've done so many other things since
>> then, I can't really tie it to one thing that I've done.
>>
>> I probably should have warmed it up, but I don't like the way it's
>> running so I don't want to run it too long.

>
> Did you clean the shaft on the Idle Air Control motor? You might try
> unplugging the IAC and see if it makes any difference. If not, that's
> your problem. When I first got my MJ I had idle problems that improved a
> little with each fix until a new O2 sensor cleared the last bit of
> roughness.
>
> AH! just hit me - that sounds like what I got with a failing fuel pump - I
> was losing pressure after it started - but even with added throttle mine
> would die pretty quickly.
>


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The Merg 01-30-2007 09:47 PM

Re: Oil pressure problem fixed
 
I looked at the check engine code, I got a 13 - MAP sensor.
Seem like that would do it? Or should I replace the MAP sensor, not
expecting it to fix the current problem?

>You might want to describe carefully what parts you've busted, even if
>just by location and what they appear to be connected to.
>As for old or cold, I would think it would need to be really cold to

be >that bad. Replace 'em.

I have to replace 'em, since I shattered 'em. I broke the CCV air
outtakes on both the XJ and YJ and a heater hose coupling (don't know
exactly what it's called, it's four hoses coming together with a small
vacuum).
The rubber on the YJ CCV piece was obviously dried out, so I'm not
surprised that broke when I tried to put it back in. The XJ CCV piece
snapped when I pulled on it not very hard.
The hose coupling shattered when I tried to move it out of the way so I
could get to either the #4 or 5 spark plug.
I didn't put much force on either of the XJ parts and they basically
shattered.


Will Honea wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:12:23 -0500, The Merg wrote:
>
>> Yeah, the throttle body was removed and thoroughly cleaned, new gasket.
>> I'm not entirely sure about this, but I think it's gotten worse since
>> the throttle body was cleaned. But I've done so many other things since
>> then, I can't really tie it to one thing that I've done.
>>
>> I probably should have warmed it up, but I don't like the way it's
>> running so I don't want to run it too long.

>
> Did you clean the shaft on the Idle Air Control motor? You might try
> unplugging the IAC and see if it makes any difference. If not, that's
> your problem. When I first got my MJ I had idle problems that improved a
> little with each fix until a new O2 sensor cleared the last bit of
> roughness.
>
> AH! just hit me - that sounds like what I got with a failing fuel pump - I
> was losing pressure after it started - but even with added throttle mine
> would die pretty quickly.
>


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ÐÏ-¡±á

The Merg 01-30-2007 09:47 PM

Re: Oil pressure problem fixed
 
I looked at the check engine code, I got a 13 - MAP sensor.
Seem like that would do it? Or should I replace the MAP sensor, not
expecting it to fix the current problem?

>You might want to describe carefully what parts you've busted, even if
>just by location and what they appear to be connected to.
>As for old or cold, I would think it would need to be really cold to

be >that bad. Replace 'em.

I have to replace 'em, since I shattered 'em. I broke the CCV air
outtakes on both the XJ and YJ and a heater hose coupling (don't know
exactly what it's called, it's four hoses coming together with a small
vacuum).
The rubber on the YJ CCV piece was obviously dried out, so I'm not
surprised that broke when I tried to put it back in. The XJ CCV piece
snapped when I pulled on it not very hard.
The hose coupling shattered when I tried to move it out of the way so I
could get to either the #4 or 5 spark plug.
I didn't put much force on either of the XJ parts and they basically
shattered.


Will Honea wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:12:23 -0500, The Merg wrote:
>
>> Yeah, the throttle body was removed and thoroughly cleaned, new gasket.
>> I'm not entirely sure about this, but I think it's gotten worse since
>> the throttle body was cleaned. But I've done so many other things since
>> then, I can't really tie it to one thing that I've done.
>>
>> I probably should have warmed it up, but I don't like the way it's
>> running so I don't want to run it too long.

>
> Did you clean the shaft on the Idle Air Control motor? You might try
> unplugging the IAC and see if it makes any difference. If not, that's
> your problem. When I first got my MJ I had idle problems that improved a
> little with each fix until a new O2 sensor cleared the last bit of
> roughness.
>
> AH! just hit me - that sounds like what I got with a failing fuel pump - I
> was losing pressure after it started - but even with added throttle mine
> would die pretty quickly.
>


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ÐÏ-¡±á


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