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bpn 07-03-2003 12:45 PM

Odometer running backwards?
 
1993 XJ 4.0L 120K

Every once in a while I notice that my odometer runs backwards. I first
found this out when I went on a trip that I wanted to know the mileage for.
I wrote down the numbers before the trip started and checked them when I
reached the destination. It only showed that I went 40 miles (should have
been about 240 based on 4 hour trip). I chalked it up to transposing some
numbers when I wrote down the original mileage. But on the way home I just
happened to be looking at the odometer and noticed it was running backwards.
It does not do this all the time, but most often on longer trips with higher
speeds. The speedometer works fine. I don't plan on ever selling this
vehicle, but if I did I would feel guilty knowing actual mileage is not on
the odometer. Anything I can check to fix this? Or should I fix this? ;-)



Chuck 07-03-2003 05:32 PM

Re: Odometer running backwards?
 
Put down the bong and step away, far far away :~)

--
HAV-A-GOOD 1

Chuck

I didn't fight to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian
"bpn" <bpn@nomailforme.com> wrote in message
news:vg8ncqiecei782@corp.supernews.com...
> 1993 XJ 4.0L 120K
>
> Every once in a while I notice that my odometer runs backwards. I first
> found this out when I went on a trip that I wanted to know the mileage

for.
> I wrote down the numbers before the trip started and checked them when I
> reached the destination. It only showed that I went 40 miles (should have
> been about 240 based on 4 hour trip). I chalked it up to transposing some
> numbers when I wrote down the original mileage. But on the way home I

just
> happened to be looking at the odometer and noticed it was running

backwards.
> It does not do this all the time, but most often on longer trips with

higher
> speeds. The speedometer works fine. I don't plan on ever selling this
> vehicle, but if I did I would feel guilty knowing actual mileage is not on
> the odometer. Anything I can check to fix this? Or should I fix this?

;-)
>
>




bpn 07-07-2003 08:38 AM

Re: Odometer running backwards?
 
Hey, don't think I didn't rub my eyes and do a double-take when I first saw
it happen. Again, it is not all the time, just on longer higher-speed
trips.

"Chuck" <kb9kfs@hsonline.net> wrote in message
news:vg98ghgls09c6c@corp.supernews.com...
> Put down the bong and step away, far far away :~)
>
> --
> HAV-A-GOOD 1
>
> Chuck
>
> I didn't fight to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian
> "bpn" <bpn@nomailforme.com> wrote in message
> news:vg8ncqiecei782@corp.supernews.com...
> > 1993 XJ 4.0L 120K
> >
> > Every once in a while I notice that my odometer runs backwards. I first
> > found this out when I went on a trip that I wanted to know the mileage

> for.
> > I wrote down the numbers before the trip started and checked them when I
> > reached the destination. It only showed that I went 40 miles (should

have
> > been about 240 based on 4 hour trip). I chalked it up to transposing

some
> > numbers when I wrote down the original mileage. But on the way home I

> just
> > happened to be looking at the odometer and noticed it was running

> backwards.
> > It does not do this all the time, but most often on longer trips with

> higher
> > speeds. The speedometer works fine. I don't plan on ever selling this
> > vehicle, but if I did I would feel guilty knowing actual mileage is not

on
> > the odometer. Anything I can check to fix this? Or should I fix this?

> ;-)
> >
> >

>
>




Tony 07-07-2003 11:03 AM

Re: Odometer running backwards?
 
Two things come to mind:

1) . People usually pay someone to do this for them, you're getting it
done by your own car.....

2). Remind me not to buy your jeep based on the odometer ;-)


Seriously, are the numbers seperated? Perhaps there is a problem with
the tenths disk.



On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:45:39 -0500, "bpn" <bpn@nomailforme.com> wrote:

>1993 XJ 4.0L 120K
>
>Every once in a while I notice that my odometer runs backwards. I first
>found this out when I went on a trip that I wanted to know the mileage for.
>I wrote down the numbers before the trip started and checked them when I
>reached the destination. It only showed that I went 40 miles (should have
>been about 240 based on 4 hour trip). I chalked it up to transposing some
>numbers when I wrote down the original mileage. But on the way home I just
>happened to be looking at the odometer and noticed it was running backwards.
>It does not do this all the time, but most often on longer trips with higher
>speeds. The speedometer works fine. I don't plan on ever selling this
>vehicle, but if I did I would feel guilty knowing actual mileage is not on
>the odometer. Anything I can check to fix this? Or should I fix this? ;-)
>



Jeff Strickland 07-07-2003 07:36 PM

Re: Odometer running backwards?
 
I recant my "It can't go backwards" statement, and revise it as follows,
maybe the motor that drives it has a flat spot, and it simply stops for a
moment, then restarts going the wrong way.

This sounds like a new speedo is in order ...




"bpn" <bpn@nomailforme.com> wrote in message
news:vgj9ccjl2kok56@corp.supernews.com...
> It's pretty wierd. If you watch closely the tenths disk will pause for a
> moment, then start going the other way. There also seems to be a spot

that
> it alway has a little bit of a "catch" even when it is running the right
> direction. No one that I've talked to seems to have any idea, especially
> since the speedometer works fine. I guess this isn't one of those common
> Jeep problems.
>
> "Tony" <fat_augie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:jp2jgvgj7nlukdm03vmk2vcardnc5l5s08@4ax.com...
> > Two things come to mind:
> >
> > 1) . People usually pay someone to do this for them, you're getting it
> > done by your own car.....
> >
> > 2). Remind me not to buy your jeep based on the odometer ;-)
> >
> >
> > Seriously, are the numbers seperated? Perhaps there is a problem with
> > the tenths disk.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 11:45:39 -0500, "bpn" <bpn@nomailforme.com> wrote:
> >
> > >1993 XJ 4.0L 120K
> > >
> > >Every once in a while I notice that my odometer runs backwards. I

first
> > >found this out when I went on a trip that I wanted to know the mileage

> for.
> > >I wrote down the numbers before the trip started and checked them when

I
> > >reached the destination. It only showed that I went 40 miles (should

> have
> > >been about 240 based on 4 hour trip). I chalked it up to transposing

> some
> > >numbers when I wrote down the original mileage. But on the way home I

> just
> > >happened to be looking at the odometer and noticed it was running

> backwards.
> > >It does not do this all the time, but most often on longer trips with

> higher
> > >speeds. The speedometer works fine. I don't plan on ever selling this
> > >vehicle, but if I did I would feel guilty knowing actual mileage is not

> on
> > >the odometer. Anything I can check to fix this? Or should I fix this?

> ;-)
> > >

> >

>
>




bpn 07-09-2003 05:10 PM

Re: Odometer running backwards?
 
Well, I appreciate your opinion. But I know for a fact that it can, and
that mine does <sometimes>. I have witnesses. :-) Very strange.


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vgk148s7n0cvbe@corp.supernews.com...
> The odometer can not run backwards, but it can stop running.
>
> You should watch it closely as you drive, just remember to look up and

check
> the traffic once in a while.
>
>
>
>
> "bpn" <bpn@nomailforme.com> wrote in message
> news:vg8ncqiecei782@corp.supernews.com...
> > 1993 XJ 4.0L 120K
> >
> > Every once in a while I notice that my odometer runs backwards. I first
> > found this out when I went on a trip that I wanted to know the mileage

> for.
> > I wrote down the numbers before the trip started and checked them when I
> > reached the destination. It only showed that I went 40 miles (should

have
> > been about 240 based on 4 hour trip). I chalked it up to transposing

some
> > numbers when I wrote down the original mileage. But on the way home I

> just
> > happened to be looking at the odometer and noticed it was running

> backwards.
> > It does not do this all the time, but most often on longer trips with

> higher
> > speeds. The speedometer works fine. I don't plan on ever selling this
> > vehicle, but if I did I would feel guilty knowing actual mileage is not

on
> > the odometer. Anything I can check to fix this? Or should I fix this?

> ;-)
> >
> >

>
>




Jeff Strickland 07-10-2003 01:01 PM

Re: Odometer running backwards?
 
Sorry, I recanted my claim in another post that you apparently missed. The
old mechanical odometers can not run backwards, I forgot that yours is
electronic.

Basically, it uses a stepper motor of some sort, and each pulse is supposed
to cause a tick forward in the motor, eventually enough ticks make a mile. I
don't know if the polarity on the pulses can be reversed, but a stepper
motor could run backwards if this happened. My guess is that there is a
mechanical device that prevents the motor, or odo numbers, from going the
wrong way, and this device is broken or stuck.




"bpn" <bpn@nomailforme.com> wrote in message
news:vgp17q9pi03b72@corp.supernews.com...
> Well, I appreciate your opinion. But I know for a fact that it can, and
> that mine does <sometimes>. I have witnesses. :-) Very strange.
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vgk148s7n0cvbe@corp.supernews.com...
> > The odometer can not run backwards, but it can stop running.
> >
> > You should watch it closely as you drive, just remember to look up and

> check
> > the traffic once in a while.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "bpn" <bpn@nomailforme.com> wrote in message
> > news:vg8ncqiecei782@corp.supernews.com...
> > > 1993 XJ 4.0L 120K
> > >
> > > Every once in a while I notice that my odometer runs backwards. I

first
> > > found this out when I went on a trip that I wanted to know the mileage

> > for.
> > > I wrote down the numbers before the trip started and checked them when

I
> > > reached the destination. It only showed that I went 40 miles (should

> have
> > > been about 240 based on 4 hour trip). I chalked it up to transposing

> some
> > > numbers when I wrote down the original mileage. But on the way home I

> > just
> > > happened to be looking at the odometer and noticed it was running

> > backwards.
> > > It does not do this all the time, but most often on longer trips with

> > higher
> > > speeds. The speedometer works fine. I don't plan on ever selling

this
> > > vehicle, but if I did I would feel guilty knowing actual mileage is

not
> on
> > > the odometer. Anything I can check to fix this? Or should I fix

this?
> > ;-)
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




grunt/sniff 07-10-2003 01:34 PM

Re: Odometer running backwards?
 
Did you buy the truck new?

What are the odds that someone previously rolled back the miles and damaged
the counter.?
"GzrGlide" <GzrGlide02@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:3F06606C.61606B5E@yahoo.ca...
> bpn wrote:
>
> > 1993 XJ 4.0L 120K
> >
> > Every once in a while I notice that my odometer runs backwards. I first
> > found this out when I went on a trip that I wanted to know the mileage

for.
> > I wrote down the numbers before the trip started and checked them when I
> > reached the destination. It only showed that I went 40 miles (should

have
> > been about 240 based on 4 hour trip). I chalked it up to transposing

some
> > numbers when I wrote down the original mileage. But on the way home I

just
> > happened to be looking at the odometer and noticed it was running

backwards.
> > It does not do this all the time, but most often on longer trips with

higher
> > speeds. The speedometer works fine. I don't plan on ever selling this
> > vehicle, but if I did I would feel guilty knowing actual mileage is not

on
> > the odometer. Anything I can check to fix this? Or should I fix this?

;-)
>
> For teh love of God man, stop driving in reverse!!!! ;)
> Sorry couldn't resist.
>
> Mike
> 98 TJ SE
>
>




bpn 07-14-2003 11:13 AM

Re: Odometer running backwards?
 
It had 33K on it when I bought it. Problem could have been happening for a
while, but I only noticed it recently.

I would like to fix this "problem".

"grunt/sniff" <steaming@pile.com> wrote in message
news:WshPa.429948$Vi5.11134224@news1.calgary.shaw. ca...
> Did you buy the truck new?
>
> What are the odds that someone previously rolled back the miles and

damaged
> the counter.?
> "GzrGlide" <GzrGlide02@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F06606C.61606B5E@yahoo.ca...
> > bpn wrote:
> >
> > > 1993 XJ 4.0L 120K
> > >
> > > Every once in a while I notice that my odometer runs backwards. I

first
> > > found this out when I went on a trip that I wanted to know the mileage

> for.
> > > I wrote down the numbers before the trip started and checked them when

I
> > > reached the destination. It only showed that I went 40 miles (should

> have
> > > been about 240 based on 4 hour trip). I chalked it up to transposing

> some
> > > numbers when I wrote down the original mileage. But on the way home I

> just
> > > happened to be looking at the odometer and noticed it was running

> backwards.
> > > It does not do this all the time, but most often on longer trips with

> higher
> > > speeds. The speedometer works fine. I don't plan on ever selling

this
> > > vehicle, but if I did I would feel guilty knowing actual mileage is

not
> on
> > > the odometer. Anything I can check to fix this? Or should I fix

this?
> ;-)
> >
> > For teh love of God man, stop driving in reverse!!!! ;)
> > Sorry couldn't resist.
> >
> > Mike
> > 98 TJ SE
> >
> >

>
>




bpn 07-15-2003 09:24 AM

Re: Odometer running backwards?
 
Don't have a trip meter.

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vh65dadm8ss552@corp.supernews.com...
> The trip meter and the odometer should behave the same way, if the trip
> meter behaves properly, there is a problem with the odometer itself,
> possibly indicating it has been turned back.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "bpn" <bpn@nomailforme.com> wrote in message
> news:vh5i6ujq82sf51@corp.supernews.com...
> > It had 33K on it when I bought it. Problem could have been happening

for
> a
> > while, but I only noticed it recently.
> >
> > I would like to fix this "problem".
> >
> > "grunt/sniff" <steaming@pile.com> wrote in message
> > news:WshPa.429948$Vi5.11134224@news1.calgary.shaw. ca...
> > > Did you buy the truck new?
> > >
> > > What are the odds that someone previously rolled back the miles and

> > damaged
> > > the counter.?
> > > "GzrGlide" <GzrGlide02@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:3F06606C.61606B5E@yahoo.ca...
> > > > bpn wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > 1993 XJ 4.0L 120K
> > > > >
> > > > > Every once in a while I notice that my odometer runs backwards. I

> > first
> > > > > found this out when I went on a trip that I wanted to know the

> mileage
> > > for.
> > > > > I wrote down the numbers before the trip started and checked them

> when
> > I
> > > > > reached the destination. It only showed that I went 40 miles

> (should
> > > have
> > > > > been about 240 based on 4 hour trip). I chalked it up to

> transposing
> > > some
> > > > > numbers when I wrote down the original mileage. But on the way

home
> I
> > > just
> > > > > happened to be looking at the odometer and noticed it was running
> > > backwards.
> > > > > It does not do this all the time, but most often on longer trips

> with
> > > higher
> > > > > speeds. The speedometer works fine. I don't plan on ever selling

> > this
> > > > > vehicle, but if I did I would feel guilty knowing actual mileage

is
> > not
> > > on
> > > > > the odometer. Anything I can check to fix this? Or should I fix

> > this?
> > > ;-)
> > > >
> > > > For teh love of God man, stop driving in reverse!!!! ;)
> > > > Sorry couldn't resist.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 98 TJ SE
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>





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