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Keith Stelter 09-15-2005 08:51 PM

Odd noise?
 
My recently purchased 88 Cherokee 4.0 automatic, 4x4 makes a chirping noise
like a tree frog from the front that starts when I get to about 35 MPH. It
does it in drive (OD) or in 3rd. It makes the noise as long as I have my
foot on the gas. As soon as I let off it goes away.
It's not loud, but I can hear it clearly when I drive. I have installed a
new alternator, water pump and serpentine belt.
The strange part is the fact that it goes away as soon as I let off the gas
and starts back up the second that I press back down on the gas.
I was thinking speedometer cable or something, but that would keep doing it
all the time, wouldn't it?
Would a wheel bearing or u-joint do this?
Again, it's not a loud noise, but it is noticeable.
Thanks in advance!
Keith



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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-15-2005 09:18 PM

Re: Odd noise?
 
Hi Keith,
Whenever I hear the a description "chirping", I think rear
driveshaft universal joints. Usually we can see the telltale rust stain
oozing out of one of the cups of the offending joint. Block the wheels
before you crawl underneath.
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Keith Stelter wrote:
>
> My recently purchased 88 Cherokee 4.0 automatic, 4x4 makes a chirping noise
> like a tree frog from the front that starts when I get to about 35 MPH. It
> does it in drive (OD) or in 3rd. It makes the noise as long as I have my
> foot on the gas. As soon as I let off it goes away.
> It's not loud, but I can hear it clearly when I drive. I have installed a
> new alternator, water pump and serpentine belt.
> The strange part is the fact that it goes away as soon as I let off the gas
> and starts back up the second that I press back down on the gas.
> I was thinking speedometer cable or something, but that would keep doing it
> all the time, wouldn't it?
> Would a wheel bearing or u-joint do this?
> Again, it's not a loud noise, but it is noticeable.
> Thanks in advance!
> Keith
>
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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-15-2005 09:18 PM

Re: Odd noise?
 
Hi Keith,
Whenever I hear the a description "chirping", I think rear
driveshaft universal joints. Usually we can see the telltale rust stain
oozing out of one of the cups of the offending joint. Block the wheels
before you crawl underneath.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Keith Stelter wrote:
>
> My recently purchased 88 Cherokee 4.0 automatic, 4x4 makes a chirping noise
> like a tree frog from the front that starts when I get to about 35 MPH. It
> does it in drive (OD) or in 3rd. It makes the noise as long as I have my
> foot on the gas. As soon as I let off it goes away.
> It's not loud, but I can hear it clearly when I drive. I have installed a
> new alternator, water pump and serpentine belt.
> The strange part is the fact that it goes away as soon as I let off the gas
> and starts back up the second that I press back down on the gas.
> I was thinking speedometer cable or something, but that would keep doing it
> all the time, wouldn't it?
> Would a wheel bearing or u-joint do this?
> Again, it's not a loud noise, but it is noticeable.
> Thanks in advance!
> Keith
>
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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-15-2005 09:18 PM

Re: Odd noise?
 
Hi Keith,
Whenever I hear the a description "chirping", I think rear
driveshaft universal joints. Usually we can see the telltale rust stain
oozing out of one of the cups of the offending joint. Block the wheels
before you crawl underneath.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Keith Stelter wrote:
>
> My recently purchased 88 Cherokee 4.0 automatic, 4x4 makes a chirping noise
> like a tree frog from the front that starts when I get to about 35 MPH. It
> does it in drive (OD) or in 3rd. It makes the noise as long as I have my
> foot on the gas. As soon as I let off it goes away.
> It's not loud, but I can hear it clearly when I drive. I have installed a
> new alternator, water pump and serpentine belt.
> The strange part is the fact that it goes away as soon as I let off the gas
> and starts back up the second that I press back down on the gas.
> I was thinking speedometer cable or something, but that would keep doing it
> all the time, wouldn't it?
> Would a wheel bearing or u-joint do this?
> Again, it's not a loud noise, but it is noticeable.
> Thanks in advance!
> Keith
>
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Steve 09-16-2005 11:03 AM

Re: Odd noise?
 
My guess is that your harmonic balancer has gone bad and is chewing into
your timing chain case. Had to replace mine last time I heard tree frogs
under the hood.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

Keith Stelter wrote:
> My recently purchased 88 Cherokee 4.0 automatic, 4x4 makes a chirping noise
> like a tree frog from the front that starts when I get to about 35 MPH. It
> does it in drive (OD) or in 3rd. It makes the noise as long as I have my
> foot on the gas. As soon as I let off it goes away.
> It's not loud, but I can hear it clearly when I drive. I have installed a
> new alternator, water pump and serpentine belt.
> The strange part is the fact that it goes away as soon as I let off the gas
> and starts back up the second that I press back down on the gas.
> I was thinking speedometer cable or something, but that would keep doing it
> all the time, wouldn't it?
> Would a wheel bearing or u-joint do this?
> Again, it's not a loud noise, but it is noticeable.
> Thanks in advance!
> Keith
>
>
>
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Steve 09-16-2005 11:03 AM

Re: Odd noise?
 
My guess is that your harmonic balancer has gone bad and is chewing into
your timing chain case. Had to replace mine last time I heard tree frogs
under the hood.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

Keith Stelter wrote:
> My recently purchased 88 Cherokee 4.0 automatic, 4x4 makes a chirping noise
> like a tree frog from the front that starts when I get to about 35 MPH. It
> does it in drive (OD) or in 3rd. It makes the noise as long as I have my
> foot on the gas. As soon as I let off it goes away.
> It's not loud, but I can hear it clearly when I drive. I have installed a
> new alternator, water pump and serpentine belt.
> The strange part is the fact that it goes away as soon as I let off the gas
> and starts back up the second that I press back down on the gas.
> I was thinking speedometer cable or something, but that would keep doing it
> all the time, wouldn't it?
> Would a wheel bearing or u-joint do this?
> Again, it's not a loud noise, but it is noticeable.
> Thanks in advance!
> Keith
>
>
>
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Steve 09-16-2005 11:03 AM

Re: Odd noise?
 
My guess is that your harmonic balancer has gone bad and is chewing into
your timing chain case. Had to replace mine last time I heard tree frogs
under the hood.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

Keith Stelter wrote:
> My recently purchased 88 Cherokee 4.0 automatic, 4x4 makes a chirping noise
> like a tree frog from the front that starts when I get to about 35 MPH. It
> does it in drive (OD) or in 3rd. It makes the noise as long as I have my
> foot on the gas. As soon as I let off it goes away.
> It's not loud, but I can hear it clearly when I drive. I have installed a
> new alternator, water pump and serpentine belt.
> The strange part is the fact that it goes away as soon as I let off the gas
> and starts back up the second that I press back down on the gas.
> I was thinking speedometer cable or something, but that would keep doing it
> all the time, wouldn't it?
> Would a wheel bearing or u-joint do this?
> Again, it's not a loud noise, but it is noticeable.
> Thanks in advance!
> Keith
>
>
>
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DougW 09-16-2005 12:02 PM

Re: Odd noise?
 
Steve did pass the time by typing:
> My guess is that your harmonic balancer has gone bad and is chewing into
> your timing chain case. Had to replace mine last time I heard tree frogs
> under the hood.


http://www.revbeergoggles.com/hb/

A failing HB will cause the belt to squeal and wear, among other things.
The test to see if it's still ok is to look at the rubber and do the pencil
test as outlined on my page. Just be careful working under a running engine.

The HB will do this but so will a bad main bearing. Although that noise
is more of a grinding under load while accelerating.

To test the main bearing you have the engine off and gently (as not to dent
the oil pan) pry the hb forward and back. It shold not move by more than a
millimeter or less. Mine moved by about 1/4" and the end result was a rebuild.

> Keith Stelter wrote:
>> My recently purchased 88 Cherokee 4.0 automatic, 4x4 makes a chirping noise
>> like a tree frog from the front that starts when I get to about 35 MPH. It
>> does it in drive (OD) or in 3rd. It makes the noise as long as I have my
>> foot on the gas. As soon as I let off it goes away.
>> It's not loud, but I can hear it clearly when I drive. I have installed a
>> new alternator, water pump and serpentine belt.
>> The strange part is the fact that it goes away as soon as I let off the gas
>> and starts back up the second that I press back down on the gas.
>> I was thinking speedometer cable or something, but that would keep doing it
>> all the time, wouldn't it?
>> Would a wheel bearing or u-joint do this?
>> Again, it's not a loud noise, but it is noticeable.
>> Thanks in advance!
>> Keith




DougW 09-16-2005 12:02 PM

Re: Odd noise?
 
Steve did pass the time by typing:
> My guess is that your harmonic balancer has gone bad and is chewing into
> your timing chain case. Had to replace mine last time I heard tree frogs
> under the hood.


http://www.revbeergoggles.com/hb/

A failing HB will cause the belt to squeal and wear, among other things.
The test to see if it's still ok is to look at the rubber and do the pencil
test as outlined on my page. Just be careful working under a running engine.

The HB will do this but so will a bad main bearing. Although that noise
is more of a grinding under load while accelerating.

To test the main bearing you have the engine off and gently (as not to dent
the oil pan) pry the hb forward and back. It shold not move by more than a
millimeter or less. Mine moved by about 1/4" and the end result was a rebuild.

> Keith Stelter wrote:
>> My recently purchased 88 Cherokee 4.0 automatic, 4x4 makes a chirping noise
>> like a tree frog from the front that starts when I get to about 35 MPH. It
>> does it in drive (OD) or in 3rd. It makes the noise as long as I have my
>> foot on the gas. As soon as I let off it goes away.
>> It's not loud, but I can hear it clearly when I drive. I have installed a
>> new alternator, water pump and serpentine belt.
>> The strange part is the fact that it goes away as soon as I let off the gas
>> and starts back up the second that I press back down on the gas.
>> I was thinking speedometer cable or something, but that would keep doing it
>> all the time, wouldn't it?
>> Would a wheel bearing or u-joint do this?
>> Again, it's not a loud noise, but it is noticeable.
>> Thanks in advance!
>> Keith




DougW 09-16-2005 12:02 PM

Re: Odd noise?
 
Steve did pass the time by typing:
> My guess is that your harmonic balancer has gone bad and is chewing into
> your timing chain case. Had to replace mine last time I heard tree frogs
> under the hood.


http://www.revbeergoggles.com/hb/

A failing HB will cause the belt to squeal and wear, among other things.
The test to see if it's still ok is to look at the rubber and do the pencil
test as outlined on my page. Just be careful working under a running engine.

The HB will do this but so will a bad main bearing. Although that noise
is more of a grinding under load while accelerating.

To test the main bearing you have the engine off and gently (as not to dent
the oil pan) pry the hb forward and back. It shold not move by more than a
millimeter or less. Mine moved by about 1/4" and the end result was a rebuild.

> Keith Stelter wrote:
>> My recently purchased 88 Cherokee 4.0 automatic, 4x4 makes a chirping noise
>> like a tree frog from the front that starts when I get to about 35 MPH. It
>> does it in drive (OD) or in 3rd. It makes the noise as long as I have my
>> foot on the gas. As soon as I let off it goes away.
>> It's not loud, but I can hear it clearly when I drive. I have installed a
>> new alternator, water pump and serpentine belt.
>> The strange part is the fact that it goes away as soon as I let off the gas
>> and starts back up the second that I press back down on the gas.
>> I was thinking speedometer cable or something, but that would keep doing it
>> all the time, wouldn't it?
>> Would a wheel bearing or u-joint do this?
>> Again, it's not a loud noise, but it is noticeable.
>> Thanks in advance!
>> Keith





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