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Cal 10-31-2005 06:53 AM

obd ii code.....'97
 
Hi!

My '97 JGC just gave me an error code...P0133, O2 sensor slow to respond.
Do I need to just replace it, or is there something else I should try first?
I assume that bank 1 is the sensor that is upstream from the cat converter
(on the exhaust manifold..)

thanks!

cal



Jeff Strickland 10-31-2005 04:46 PM

Re: obd ii code.....'97
 
I'd replace the O2 Sensor. It should be the one closest to the motor. If you
have an I6, it will be on the manifold. A V8 will have a Bank 1 and a Bank
2, the I6 only has Bank 1.

If there was an O2 Sensor after the CAT, then the code would be that the CAT
isn't working right. I forget the specific verbiage, but the CAT has no
parts that can fail, so a failed CAT is probably caused by a failed sensor.
Having said that, a CAT _can_ fail, but you usually know because the main
failure mode is that it gets clogged and this affects performance.






"Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:fBn9f.475$Cw4.206201@twister.southeast.rr.com ...
> Hi!
>
> My '97 JGC just gave me an error code...P0133, O2 sensor slow to respond.
> Do I need to just replace it, or is there something else I should try
> first? I assume that bank 1 is the sensor that is upstream from the cat
> converter (on the exhaust manifold..)
>
> thanks!
>
> cal
>
>



Jeff Strickland 10-31-2005 04:46 PM

Re: obd ii code.....'97
 
I'd replace the O2 Sensor. It should be the one closest to the motor. If you
have an I6, it will be on the manifold. A V8 will have a Bank 1 and a Bank
2, the I6 only has Bank 1.

If there was an O2 Sensor after the CAT, then the code would be that the CAT
isn't working right. I forget the specific verbiage, but the CAT has no
parts that can fail, so a failed CAT is probably caused by a failed sensor.
Having said that, a CAT _can_ fail, but you usually know because the main
failure mode is that it gets clogged and this affects performance.






"Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:fBn9f.475$Cw4.206201@twister.southeast.rr.com ...
> Hi!
>
> My '97 JGC just gave me an error code...P0133, O2 sensor slow to respond.
> Do I need to just replace it, or is there something else I should try
> first? I assume that bank 1 is the sensor that is upstream from the cat
> converter (on the exhaust manifold..)
>
> thanks!
>
> cal
>
>



Jeff Strickland 10-31-2005 04:46 PM

Re: obd ii code.....'97
 
I'd replace the O2 Sensor. It should be the one closest to the motor. If you
have an I6, it will be on the manifold. A V8 will have a Bank 1 and a Bank
2, the I6 only has Bank 1.

If there was an O2 Sensor after the CAT, then the code would be that the CAT
isn't working right. I forget the specific verbiage, but the CAT has no
parts that can fail, so a failed CAT is probably caused by a failed sensor.
Having said that, a CAT _can_ fail, but you usually know because the main
failure mode is that it gets clogged and this affects performance.






"Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:fBn9f.475$Cw4.206201@twister.southeast.rr.com ...
> Hi!
>
> My '97 JGC just gave me an error code...P0133, O2 sensor slow to respond.
> Do I need to just replace it, or is there something else I should try
> first? I assume that bank 1 is the sensor that is upstream from the cat
> converter (on the exhaust manifold..)
>
> thanks!
>
> cal
>
>



Cal 10-31-2005 07:47 PM

Re: obd ii code.....'97
 
Thanks! I'll pick up one today, and replace it..


cal


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7JadnXn_ufJbDfveRVn-jg@ez2.net...
> I'd replace the O2 Sensor. It should be the one closest to the motor. If
> you have an I6, it will be on the manifold. A V8 will have a Bank 1 and a
> Bank 2, the I6 only has Bank 1.
>
> If there was an O2 Sensor after the CAT, then the code would be that the
> CAT isn't working right. I forget the specific verbiage, but the CAT has
> no parts that can fail, so a failed CAT is probably caused by a failed
> sensor. Having said that, a CAT _can_ fail, but you usually know because
> the main failure mode is that it gets clogged and this affects
> performance.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:fBn9f.475$Cw4.206201@twister.southeast.rr.com ...
>> Hi!
>>
>> My '97 JGC just gave me an error code...P0133, O2 sensor slow to respond.
>> Do I need to just replace it, or is there something else I should try
>> first? I assume that bank 1 is the sensor that is upstream from the cat
>> converter (on the exhaust manifold..)
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> cal
>>
>>

>




Cal 10-31-2005 07:47 PM

Re: obd ii code.....'97
 
Thanks! I'll pick up one today, and replace it..


cal


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7JadnXn_ufJbDfveRVn-jg@ez2.net...
> I'd replace the O2 Sensor. It should be the one closest to the motor. If
> you have an I6, it will be on the manifold. A V8 will have a Bank 1 and a
> Bank 2, the I6 only has Bank 1.
>
> If there was an O2 Sensor after the CAT, then the code would be that the
> CAT isn't working right. I forget the specific verbiage, but the CAT has
> no parts that can fail, so a failed CAT is probably caused by a failed
> sensor. Having said that, a CAT _can_ fail, but you usually know because
> the main failure mode is that it gets clogged and this affects
> performance.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:fBn9f.475$Cw4.206201@twister.southeast.rr.com ...
>> Hi!
>>
>> My '97 JGC just gave me an error code...P0133, O2 sensor slow to respond.
>> Do I need to just replace it, or is there something else I should try
>> first? I assume that bank 1 is the sensor that is upstream from the cat
>> converter (on the exhaust manifold..)
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> cal
>>
>>

>




Cal 10-31-2005 07:47 PM

Re: obd ii code.....'97
 
Thanks! I'll pick up one today, and replace it..


cal


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7JadnXn_ufJbDfveRVn-jg@ez2.net...
> I'd replace the O2 Sensor. It should be the one closest to the motor. If
> you have an I6, it will be on the manifold. A V8 will have a Bank 1 and a
> Bank 2, the I6 only has Bank 1.
>
> If there was an O2 Sensor after the CAT, then the code would be that the
> CAT isn't working right. I forget the specific verbiage, but the CAT has
> no parts that can fail, so a failed CAT is probably caused by a failed
> sensor. Having said that, a CAT _can_ fail, but you usually know because
> the main failure mode is that it gets clogged and this affects
> performance.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:fBn9f.475$Cw4.206201@twister.southeast.rr.com ...
>> Hi!
>>
>> My '97 JGC just gave me an error code...P0133, O2 sensor slow to respond.
>> Do I need to just replace it, or is there something else I should try
>> first? I assume that bank 1 is the sensor that is upstream from the cat
>> converter (on the exhaust manifold..)
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> cal
>>
>>

>




bllsht 10-31-2005 11:08 PM

Re: obd ii code.....'97
 
In message <7JadnXn_ufJbDfveRVn-jg@ez2.net>, "Jeff Strickland" wrote:

>I'd replace the O2 Sensor. It should be the one closest to the motor. If you
>have an I6, it will be on the manifold. A V8 will have a Bank 1 and a Bank
>2, the I6 only has Bank 1.


A 97 V8 will have 1 upstream and 1 downstream sensor. Just like a 6 cyl will.

>
>If there was an O2 Sensor after the CAT, then the code would be that the CAT
>isn't working right. I forget the specific verbiage, but the CAT has no
>parts that can fail, so a failed CAT is probably caused by a failed sensor.
>Having said that, a CAT _can_ fail, but you usually know because the main
>failure mode is that it gets clogged and this affects performance.


You make this up as you go? Cat converters can and quite often do fail without
plugging or rattling. If that wasn't the case, there would be no need to
monitor them for efficiency. If you get a fault for a failed cat, chances are
the cat is hosed. If there's a problem with the downstream sensor, you'll get a
downstream sensor fault. Not a cat failure fault.

>
>
>
>
>
>
>"Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:fBn9f.475$Cw4.206201@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
>> Hi!
>>
>> My '97 JGC just gave me an error code...P0133, O2 sensor slow to respond.
>> Do I need to just replace it, or is there something else I should try
>> first? I assume that bank 1 is the sensor that is upstream from the cat
>> converter (on the exhaust manifold..)
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> cal
>>
>>


bllsht 10-31-2005 11:08 PM

Re: obd ii code.....'97
 
In message <7JadnXn_ufJbDfveRVn-jg@ez2.net>, "Jeff Strickland" wrote:

>I'd replace the O2 Sensor. It should be the one closest to the motor. If you
>have an I6, it will be on the manifold. A V8 will have a Bank 1 and a Bank
>2, the I6 only has Bank 1.


A 97 V8 will have 1 upstream and 1 downstream sensor. Just like a 6 cyl will.

>
>If there was an O2 Sensor after the CAT, then the code would be that the CAT
>isn't working right. I forget the specific verbiage, but the CAT has no
>parts that can fail, so a failed CAT is probably caused by a failed sensor.
>Having said that, a CAT _can_ fail, but you usually know because the main
>failure mode is that it gets clogged and this affects performance.


You make this up as you go? Cat converters can and quite often do fail without
plugging or rattling. If that wasn't the case, there would be no need to
monitor them for efficiency. If you get a fault for a failed cat, chances are
the cat is hosed. If there's a problem with the downstream sensor, you'll get a
downstream sensor fault. Not a cat failure fault.

>
>
>
>
>
>
>"Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:fBn9f.475$Cw4.206201@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
>> Hi!
>>
>> My '97 JGC just gave me an error code...P0133, O2 sensor slow to respond.
>> Do I need to just replace it, or is there something else I should try
>> first? I assume that bank 1 is the sensor that is upstream from the cat
>> converter (on the exhaust manifold..)
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> cal
>>
>>


bllsht 10-31-2005 11:08 PM

Re: obd ii code.....'97
 
In message <7JadnXn_ufJbDfveRVn-jg@ez2.net>, "Jeff Strickland" wrote:

>I'd replace the O2 Sensor. It should be the one closest to the motor. If you
>have an I6, it will be on the manifold. A V8 will have a Bank 1 and a Bank
>2, the I6 only has Bank 1.


A 97 V8 will have 1 upstream and 1 downstream sensor. Just like a 6 cyl will.

>
>If there was an O2 Sensor after the CAT, then the code would be that the CAT
>isn't working right. I forget the specific verbiage, but the CAT has no
>parts that can fail, so a failed CAT is probably caused by a failed sensor.
>Having said that, a CAT _can_ fail, but you usually know because the main
>failure mode is that it gets clogged and this affects performance.


You make this up as you go? Cat converters can and quite often do fail without
plugging or rattling. If that wasn't the case, there would be no need to
monitor them for efficiency. If you get a fault for a failed cat, chances are
the cat is hosed. If there's a problem with the downstream sensor, you'll get a
downstream sensor fault. Not a cat failure fault.

>
>
>
>
>
>
>"Cal" <codom1*IHATESPAM*@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:fBn9f.475$Cw4.206201@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
>> Hi!
>>
>> My '97 JGC just gave me an error code...P0133, O2 sensor slow to respond.
>> Do I need to just replace it, or is there something else I should try
>> first? I assume that bank 1 is the sensor that is upstream from the cat
>> converter (on the exhaust manifold..)
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> cal
>>
>>



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