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David C. Moller 12-11-2003 11:47 PM

Re: night rain
 
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 01:07:25 GMT, "Nathan Collier"
<JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:

>"Nicole Mason" <nicolemason@adelphia.net> wrote in message
>news:248Cb.12417$uq1.1449365@news3.news.adelphia. net...
>> for a second or too after the other car
>> passes, i cant see anything, which is scary. i slow down, but it doesnt

>help
>
>hi nicole,
>i have the same problem, and always associated it with a mild form of night
>blindness. that may not be the case at all, but when an oncoming car gets
>on me the reflection of the lights on my wet windshield totally blinds me
>for a second. the only thing ive found that helps is to stay at home when
>its raining, which isnt a real option. if you do find a solution that
>actually works, please share it.


LOL Nathan, too funny.... my night vision is lacking, too. And can't
see ---- in the Jeep sometimes (like Nicole mentions) in heavy rains,
no matter how new my wipers are (although I'm fine in the wife's Neon,
so there really *IS* something specific to the Jeep in this I think).

Just reminded me of one of the reasons I ended up being a 60-gunner at
Bragg... they started me as a driver (we had Jeeps still at this time,
switched to Hummers half way thru my enlistment), and I was driving
using blackouts (no goggles). Drove the Jeep right into a ditch, and
pretty much threw the guy currently manning the 60 out of the vehicle.
We got out OK, but as I was climbing back into the driver's seat,
Sergeant said, 'Moller, get on the 60'. Match made in heaven after
that hehehehe.

Anyway, back to the original post... one thing I have noticed is that
the stock headlights are very weak IMO. Maybe try some type of Halogen
replacement?

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

David C. Moller 12-11-2003 11:47 PM

Re: night rain
 
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 01:07:25 GMT, "Nathan Collier"
<JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:

>"Nicole Mason" <nicolemason@adelphia.net> wrote in message
>news:248Cb.12417$uq1.1449365@news3.news.adelphia. net...
>> for a second or too after the other car
>> passes, i cant see anything, which is scary. i slow down, but it doesnt

>help
>
>hi nicole,
>i have the same problem, and always associated it with a mild form of night
>blindness. that may not be the case at all, but when an oncoming car gets
>on me the reflection of the lights on my wet windshield totally blinds me
>for a second. the only thing ive found that helps is to stay at home when
>its raining, which isnt a real option. if you do find a solution that
>actually works, please share it.


LOL Nathan, too funny.... my night vision is lacking, too. And can't
see ---- in the Jeep sometimes (like Nicole mentions) in heavy rains,
no matter how new my wipers are (although I'm fine in the wife's Neon,
so there really *IS* something specific to the Jeep in this I think).

Just reminded me of one of the reasons I ended up being a 60-gunner at
Bragg... they started me as a driver (we had Jeeps still at this time,
switched to Hummers half way thru my enlistment), and I was driving
using blackouts (no goggles). Drove the Jeep right into a ditch, and
pretty much threw the guy currently manning the 60 out of the vehicle.
We got out OK, but as I was climbing back into the driver's seat,
Sergeant said, 'Moller, get on the 60'. Match made in heaven after
that hehehehe.

Anyway, back to the original post... one thing I have noticed is that
the stock headlights are very weak IMO. Maybe try some type of Halogen
replacement?

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

Roy J 12-12-2003 12:01 AM

Re: night rain
 
Don't know where and how much your have been driving but is your
windshield pitted? We get a lot of road salt and sand flying
around here, just sandblasts the windshields. The vertical
position of the Jeep windshield makes it go bad much faster than
other vehicles. 50k miles of daily driving in a Jeep and you need
a new one. Others get 80k or more. Once they get pitted, they are
a real bear to see out of with glare from on coming vehicles.
Your eye compensates, then you can't see a thing for a couple
seconds after the car passes.

Drive around behind a gravel truck and hope you collect a rock,
then get it replaced.

Nicole Mason wrote:

> hey everyone,
> when im driving home at night, and its raining, i cant see after another
> car has passed. i live out in the woods, but get on a route to get there, so
> its a 50 mph speed limit, and some curvy roads. with all the rain theres a
> big glare on my windshield, and for a second or too after the other car
> passes, i cant see anything, which is scary. i slow down, but it doesnt help
> much. Is it because my Tj's windshield doesnt have much slant, or something
> else? how can i help this? rain-x, would fog lights help? thanks for any
> input!
> Nicole
>
>



Roy J 12-12-2003 12:01 AM

Re: night rain
 
Don't know where and how much your have been driving but is your
windshield pitted? We get a lot of road salt and sand flying
around here, just sandblasts the windshields. The vertical
position of the Jeep windshield makes it go bad much faster than
other vehicles. 50k miles of daily driving in a Jeep and you need
a new one. Others get 80k or more. Once they get pitted, they are
a real bear to see out of with glare from on coming vehicles.
Your eye compensates, then you can't see a thing for a couple
seconds after the car passes.

Drive around behind a gravel truck and hope you collect a rock,
then get it replaced.

Nicole Mason wrote:

> hey everyone,
> when im driving home at night, and its raining, i cant see after another
> car has passed. i live out in the woods, but get on a route to get there, so
> its a 50 mph speed limit, and some curvy roads. with all the rain theres a
> big glare on my windshield, and for a second or too after the other car
> passes, i cant see anything, which is scary. i slow down, but it doesnt help
> much. Is it because my Tj's windshield doesnt have much slant, or something
> else? how can i help this? rain-x, would fog lights help? thanks for any
> input!
> Nicole
>
>



Roy J 12-12-2003 12:01 AM

Re: night rain
 
Don't know where and how much your have been driving but is your
windshield pitted? We get a lot of road salt and sand flying
around here, just sandblasts the windshields. The vertical
position of the Jeep windshield makes it go bad much faster than
other vehicles. 50k miles of daily driving in a Jeep and you need
a new one. Others get 80k or more. Once they get pitted, they are
a real bear to see out of with glare from on coming vehicles.
Your eye compensates, then you can't see a thing for a couple
seconds after the car passes.

Drive around behind a gravel truck and hope you collect a rock,
then get it replaced.

Nicole Mason wrote:

> hey everyone,
> when im driving home at night, and its raining, i cant see after another
> car has passed. i live out in the woods, but get on a route to get there, so
> its a 50 mph speed limit, and some curvy roads. with all the rain theres a
> big glare on my windshield, and for a second or too after the other car
> passes, i cant see anything, which is scary. i slow down, but it doesnt help
> much. Is it because my Tj's windshield doesnt have much slant, or something
> else? how can i help this? rain-x, would fog lights help? thanks for any
> input!
> Nicole
>
>



johnny 12-12-2003 01:43 AM

Re: night rain
 
If you smoke, you will have a coating inside which will glare also.
joh

"Nicole Mason" <nicolemason@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:248Cb.12417$uq1.1449365@news3.news.adelphia.n et...
> hey everyone,
> when im driving home at night, and its raining, i cant see after

another
> car has passed. i live out in the woods, but get on a route to get there,

so
> its a 50 mph speed limit, and some curvy roads. with all the rain theres a
> big glare on my windshield, and for a second or too after the other car
> passes, i cant see anything, which is scary. i slow down, but it doesnt

help
> much. Is it because my Tj's windshield doesnt have much slant, or

something
> else? how can i help this? rain-x, would fog lights help? thanks for any
> input!
> Nicole
>
>




johnny 12-12-2003 01:43 AM

Re: night rain
 
If you smoke, you will have a coating inside which will glare also.
joh

"Nicole Mason" <nicolemason@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:248Cb.12417$uq1.1449365@news3.news.adelphia.n et...
> hey everyone,
> when im driving home at night, and its raining, i cant see after

another
> car has passed. i live out in the woods, but get on a route to get there,

so
> its a 50 mph speed limit, and some curvy roads. with all the rain theres a
> big glare on my windshield, and for a second or too after the other car
> passes, i cant see anything, which is scary. i slow down, but it doesnt

help
> much. Is it because my Tj's windshield doesnt have much slant, or

something
> else? how can i help this? rain-x, would fog lights help? thanks for any
> input!
> Nicole
>
>




johnny 12-12-2003 01:43 AM

Re: night rain
 
If you smoke, you will have a coating inside which will glare also.
joh

"Nicole Mason" <nicolemason@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:248Cb.12417$uq1.1449365@news3.news.adelphia.n et...
> hey everyone,
> when im driving home at night, and its raining, i cant see after

another
> car has passed. i live out in the woods, but get on a route to get there,

so
> its a 50 mph speed limit, and some curvy roads. with all the rain theres a
> big glare on my windshield, and for a second or too after the other car
> passes, i cant see anything, which is scary. i slow down, but it doesnt

help
> much. Is it because my Tj's windshield doesnt have much slant, or

something
> else? how can i help this? rain-x, would fog lights help? thanks for any
> input!
> Nicole
>
>




Will Honea 12-12-2003 02:27 AM

Re: night rain
 
Some old-timer tips: also keep the INSIDE of the windshield squeeky
clean. Meeting on-coming traffic, focus on the shoulder right and
away from the approaching lights. Some of my (ahem!) more elderly
friends swear by clear polarized glasses - I've never considered them
for night use but they sure help cut the glare of the water surface
when fishing.

As for age, time waits for no one. I've had problems seeing the white
center stripe on wet roads for as long as I can remember, especially
if there are any oncoming lights - even those too far away to really
affect you directly. The shoulder stripe, if there is one, is almost
always easier to see. That 'deer in the headlights' fascination with
the approaching lights is likely the biggest problem - you are looking
only for the center line and that puts you looking straight at the
approaching headlights and their glare. I wouldn't blame the Jeep
windshield particularly unless it's a simple question of proper
cleaning.

Bill H. Notes some similar tips later on. As for night vision, you
would be surprised at how many 18-21 year old aspiring pilots are
washed out before they ever start. Among those with otherwise good
vision it is one of the highest failure conditions for the Air Force.
We all used to dread the 'red lense test' part of the annual physicals
since it got more of grounded than anything else. Just remember that
night vision is actually POOREST directly in front of you (as your
eyes point) and most low light vision is actual acheived by the
off-center portion of the retina. Looking slightly to the side of
what you want to see helps a lot. Experiment in a darkened room and
it may help you "see the light", so to speak.

On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 01:02:05 UTC "Nicole Mason"
<nicolemason@adelphia.net> wrote:

> i realize this, and will go about ten under if i need to, but either way if
> you cant see or focus on the white line its a scary thing, especially when i
> have 20/20 vision, maybe i have bad night eyes or something? i would think
> im too young for that though
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:pj8Cb.588$pm5.401@okepread01...
> > Nicole Mason did pass the time by typing:
> > > hey everyone,
> > > when im driving home at night, and its raining, i cant see after

> another
> > > car has passed. i live out in the woods, but get on a route to get

> there, so
> > > its a 50 mph speed limit, and some curvy roads. with all the rain theres

> a
> > > big glare on my windshield, and for a second or too after the other car
> > > passes, i cant see anything, which is scary. i slow down, but it doesnt

> help
> > > much. Is it because my Tj's windshield doesnt have much slant, or

> something
> > > else? how can i help this? rain-x, would fog lights help? thanks for any
> > > input!

> >
> > Make sure your wipers are new and your windsheld is kept squeeky clean
> > and free of dirt/bugs/etc. Fogs will help a bit but the one thing
> > that will help more is to slow down. Speed limits are just that and they
> > are based on dry sunny conditions, not rainy night.
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >

>
>



--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>


Will Honea 12-12-2003 02:27 AM

Re: night rain
 
Some old-timer tips: also keep the INSIDE of the windshield squeeky
clean. Meeting on-coming traffic, focus on the shoulder right and
away from the approaching lights. Some of my (ahem!) more elderly
friends swear by clear polarized glasses - I've never considered them
for night use but they sure help cut the glare of the water surface
when fishing.

As for age, time waits for no one. I've had problems seeing the white
center stripe on wet roads for as long as I can remember, especially
if there are any oncoming lights - even those too far away to really
affect you directly. The shoulder stripe, if there is one, is almost
always easier to see. That 'deer in the headlights' fascination with
the approaching lights is likely the biggest problem - you are looking
only for the center line and that puts you looking straight at the
approaching headlights and their glare. I wouldn't blame the Jeep
windshield particularly unless it's a simple question of proper
cleaning.

Bill H. Notes some similar tips later on. As for night vision, you
would be surprised at how many 18-21 year old aspiring pilots are
washed out before they ever start. Among those with otherwise good
vision it is one of the highest failure conditions for the Air Force.
We all used to dread the 'red lense test' part of the annual physicals
since it got more of grounded than anything else. Just remember that
night vision is actually POOREST directly in front of you (as your
eyes point) and most low light vision is actual acheived by the
off-center portion of the retina. Looking slightly to the side of
what you want to see helps a lot. Experiment in a darkened room and
it may help you "see the light", so to speak.

On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 01:02:05 UTC "Nicole Mason"
<nicolemason@adelphia.net> wrote:

> i realize this, and will go about ten under if i need to, but either way if
> you cant see or focus on the white line its a scary thing, especially when i
> have 20/20 vision, maybe i have bad night eyes or something? i would think
> im too young for that though
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:pj8Cb.588$pm5.401@okepread01...
> > Nicole Mason did pass the time by typing:
> > > hey everyone,
> > > when im driving home at night, and its raining, i cant see after

> another
> > > car has passed. i live out in the woods, but get on a route to get

> there, so
> > > its a 50 mph speed limit, and some curvy roads. with all the rain theres

> a
> > > big glare on my windshield, and for a second or too after the other car
> > > passes, i cant see anything, which is scary. i slow down, but it doesnt

> help
> > > much. Is it because my Tj's windshield doesnt have much slant, or

> something
> > > else? how can i help this? rain-x, would fog lights help? thanks for any
> > > input!

> >
> > Make sure your wipers are new and your windsheld is kept squeeky clean
> > and free of dirt/bugs/etc. Fogs will help a bit but the one thing
> > that will help more is to slow down. Speed limits are just that and they
> > are based on dry sunny conditions, not rainy night.
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >

>
>



--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>



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