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Marc.Masnor@gmail.com 07-03-2007 03:40 PM

Re: New Ring and Pinion Set OR Edge System Intake-Throttle Body- Control set
 
On Jun 27, 10:34 pm, "Masnor" <Mas...@cox.net> wrote:
> I have a 2000 TJ Sahara manual transmission. Good shape, used mostly on the
> road for daily driver. But for hunting and looks I got a 4 inch lift, front
> and rear TrueTracs, and tires went up to 33s. It looks good, drives well on
> road, and gets me in and out of the hunting area with ease.
>
> However, 5th gear lags too much to use on the road. Engine is the 4.0L.
>
> I know I can change the ring and pinion set front and rear, but I'd like
> your thoughts on theEdgeSystem for a HP increase instead.
>
> One downside of theEdgeSystem is that my high lift jack is under the hood
> and I think the intake will be in the way of the jack. I have a new Warn
> tire carrier and bumper which can't accommodate the jack and I really don't
> want to change it. So, I'll have to find some way to carry the jack.
>
> Mas...@cox.net


THANKS TO YOU ALL

I had trouble with my Outlook Express, and I didn't think my post had
been sent. It was a happy surprise to see it and your respones when I
looked through Google Groups.

I really appreciate the advice. I'll save up for the ring and pinion
sets.

Thanks Again,

Masnor


c 07-03-2007 05:12 PM

Re: New Ring and Pinion Set OR Edge System Intake-Throttle Body-Control set
 

> THANKS TO YOU ALL
>
> I had trouble with my Outlook Express, and I didn't think my post had
> been sent. It was a happy surprise to see it and your respones when I
> looked through Google Groups.
>
> I really appreciate the advice. I'll save up for the ring and pinion
> sets.
>
> Thanks Again,
>
> Masnor
>


The best way to fix all the problems with outhouse express and internet
explorer is

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Chris

c 07-03-2007 05:12 PM

Re: New Ring and Pinion Set OR Edge System Intake-Throttle Body-Control set
 

> THANKS TO YOU ALL
>
> I had trouble with my Outlook Express, and I didn't think my post had
> been sent. It was a happy surprise to see it and your respones when I
> looked through Google Groups.
>
> I really appreciate the advice. I'll save up for the ring and pinion
> sets.
>
> Thanks Again,
>
> Masnor
>


The best way to fix all the problems with outhouse express and internet
explorer is

www.mozilla.org

Chris

c 07-03-2007 05:12 PM

Re: New Ring and Pinion Set OR Edge System Intake-Throttle Body-Control set
 

> THANKS TO YOU ALL
>
> I had trouble with my Outlook Express, and I didn't think my post had
> been sent. It was a happy surprise to see it and your respones when I
> looked through Google Groups.
>
> I really appreciate the advice. I'll save up for the ring and pinion
> sets.
>
> Thanks Again,
>
> Masnor
>


The best way to fix all the problems with outhouse express and internet
explorer is

www.mozilla.org

Chris

c 07-03-2007 05:12 PM

Re: New Ring and Pinion Set OR Edge System Intake-Throttle Body-Control set
 

> THANKS TO YOU ALL
>
> I had trouble with my Outlook Express, and I didn't think my post had
> been sent. It was a happy surprise to see it and your respones when I
> looked through Google Groups.
>
> I really appreciate the advice. I'll save up for the ring and pinion
> sets.
>
> Thanks Again,
>
> Masnor
>


The best way to fix all the problems with outhouse express and internet
explorer is

www.mozilla.org

Chris

Carl S 07-04-2007 01:31 AM

Re: New Ring and Pinion Set OR Edge System Intake-Throttle Body- Control set
 
Thanks.


<Marc.Masnor@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183491354.071340.118300@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
> On Jun 29, 1:12 am, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Gears are the only way to properly fix it and restore the peformance you
>> remember. I'd like to see a picture of the hi-lift mounted under the
>> hood,
>> if you dont mind.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> "Masnor" <Mas...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:3%Fgi.652288$2Q1.204381@newsfe16.lga...
>>
>>
>>
>> >I have a 2000 TJ Sahara manual transmission. Good shape, used mostly on
>> >the road for daily driver. But for hunting and looks I got a 4 inch
>> >lift,
>> >front and rear TrueTracs, and tires went up to 33s. It looks good,
>> >drives
>> >well on road, and gets me in and out of the hunting area with ease.

>>
>> > However, 5th gear lags too much to use on the road. Engine is the
>> > 4.0L.

>>
>> > I know I can change the ring and pinion set front and rear, but I'd
>> > like
>> > your thoughts on theEdgeSystem for a HP increase instead.

>>
>> > One downside of theEdgeSystem is that my high lift jack is under the
>> > hood and I think the intake will be in the way of the jack. I have a
>> > new
>> > Warn tire carrier and bumper which can't accommodate the jack and I
>> > really
>> > don't want to change it. So, I'll have to find some way to carry the
>> > jack.

>>
>> > Mas...@cox.net- Hide quoted text -

>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> You asked about the under the hood mount.
> This is the link http://www.mapgear.net/on_products_TJliftmount.htm.
>
> There is a bit of con discussion on the forums, but I like the mount.
> Contrary to the forum discussion a little over one half of the weight
> rests on a roughly U-shaped bracket that is 99 percent of what you
> buy. The rest is a bit of rubber tube to protect one support rod and
> a spring tie-down. The U-shaped bracket goes over the battery (which
> concerned me, but I've replaced the battery with little extra effort.
> The bracket is supported by three points - two on the firewall and one
> under the back of the fuse box on the inner fender. The fire wall
> supports use existing bolts that you loosen and the bracket slides
> down into slots. The third support point under the fuse box uses a
> longer replacement "bolt" which I didn't really need.
>
> Access to the battery for jump starts is no problem. If you even
> think you will need to replace the battery on the trail, BE SURE to
> take the right tools. Getting to the two firewall bolts is not easy,
> but is possible from the ground. It is one of those times when you
> only turn a bolt about 1/16 of a turn at a time. But, you will only
> do this every few years when you replace a battery. In between those
> times you will have your jack, it will be clean, and having it warm
> and dry in the winter is a really good thing.
>
> The base of the jack is over the battery. There is a rubber shield
> flap (more for piece of mind than any potential for shorting out).
> The base is held securely in place by a bolt pointing up from the
> bracket that goes through one of the holes in the jack upright. A
> nut, modified to be hand tightened by the application of a plastic
> fitting, holts the jack down. The "plastic" part is not cheap. The
> hand tighten nut looks vaguely like a water faucet handle. I have to
> tighten it when I change the oil, but it is secure. And, it has a
> tether. The top of the jack rests on top of the driver side support
> bar which you have to turn upside down for hood clearance. The top of
> the jack can just touch the power steering fluid cap on occasion. You
> have some horizontal adjustment as to where the top of the jack rests.
>
> If you wash off the mud and dust from time to time under the hood the
> jack will stay relatively clean. What does collect on it is often
> slightly oily which only serves to keep the jack from rusting. It is
> out of sight and I think less likely to be stolen. It has been very
> warm when I've used it in the summer, but it has not been too hot to
> touch - as suggested in one of the forum comments.
>
> Also for me, it has always been convenient to get to. The forum
> suggests the jeep will be in a precarious condition and that the hood
> will be a bad place to access. Maybe, but I'd rather be on the side
> of the jeep than in front or behind it.
>
> BTW, I have no relationship with mapgear.net or the On_Product
> inventor, other than being a customer.
>




Carl S 07-04-2007 01:31 AM

Re: New Ring and Pinion Set OR Edge System Intake-Throttle Body- Control set
 
Thanks.


<Marc.Masnor@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183491354.071340.118300@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
> On Jun 29, 1:12 am, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Gears are the only way to properly fix it and restore the peformance you
>> remember. I'd like to see a picture of the hi-lift mounted under the
>> hood,
>> if you dont mind.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> "Masnor" <Mas...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:3%Fgi.652288$2Q1.204381@newsfe16.lga...
>>
>>
>>
>> >I have a 2000 TJ Sahara manual transmission. Good shape, used mostly on
>> >the road for daily driver. But for hunting and looks I got a 4 inch
>> >lift,
>> >front and rear TrueTracs, and tires went up to 33s. It looks good,
>> >drives
>> >well on road, and gets me in and out of the hunting area with ease.

>>
>> > However, 5th gear lags too much to use on the road. Engine is the
>> > 4.0L.

>>
>> > I know I can change the ring and pinion set front and rear, but I'd
>> > like
>> > your thoughts on theEdgeSystem for a HP increase instead.

>>
>> > One downside of theEdgeSystem is that my high lift jack is under the
>> > hood and I think the intake will be in the way of the jack. I have a
>> > new
>> > Warn tire carrier and bumper which can't accommodate the jack and I
>> > really
>> > don't want to change it. So, I'll have to find some way to carry the
>> > jack.

>>
>> > Mas...@cox.net- Hide quoted text -

>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> You asked about the under the hood mount.
> This is the link http://www.mapgear.net/on_products_TJliftmount.htm.
>
> There is a bit of con discussion on the forums, but I like the mount.
> Contrary to the forum discussion a little over one half of the weight
> rests on a roughly U-shaped bracket that is 99 percent of what you
> buy. The rest is a bit of rubber tube to protect one support rod and
> a spring tie-down. The U-shaped bracket goes over the battery (which
> concerned me, but I've replaced the battery with little extra effort.
> The bracket is supported by three points - two on the firewall and one
> under the back of the fuse box on the inner fender. The fire wall
> supports use existing bolts that you loosen and the bracket slides
> down into slots. The third support point under the fuse box uses a
> longer replacement "bolt" which I didn't really need.
>
> Access to the battery for jump starts is no problem. If you even
> think you will need to replace the battery on the trail, BE SURE to
> take the right tools. Getting to the two firewall bolts is not easy,
> but is possible from the ground. It is one of those times when you
> only turn a bolt about 1/16 of a turn at a time. But, you will only
> do this every few years when you replace a battery. In between those
> times you will have your jack, it will be clean, and having it warm
> and dry in the winter is a really good thing.
>
> The base of the jack is over the battery. There is a rubber shield
> flap (more for piece of mind than any potential for shorting out).
> The base is held securely in place by a bolt pointing up from the
> bracket that goes through one of the holes in the jack upright. A
> nut, modified to be hand tightened by the application of a plastic
> fitting, holts the jack down. The "plastic" part is not cheap. The
> hand tighten nut looks vaguely like a water faucet handle. I have to
> tighten it when I change the oil, but it is secure. And, it has a
> tether. The top of the jack rests on top of the driver side support
> bar which you have to turn upside down for hood clearance. The top of
> the jack can just touch the power steering fluid cap on occasion. You
> have some horizontal adjustment as to where the top of the jack rests.
>
> If you wash off the mud and dust from time to time under the hood the
> jack will stay relatively clean. What does collect on it is often
> slightly oily which only serves to keep the jack from rusting. It is
> out of sight and I think less likely to be stolen. It has been very
> warm when I've used it in the summer, but it has not been too hot to
> touch - as suggested in one of the forum comments.
>
> Also for me, it has always been convenient to get to. The forum
> suggests the jeep will be in a precarious condition and that the hood
> will be a bad place to access. Maybe, but I'd rather be on the side
> of the jeep than in front or behind it.
>
> BTW, I have no relationship with mapgear.net or the On_Product
> inventor, other than being a customer.
>




Carl S 07-04-2007 01:31 AM

Re: New Ring and Pinion Set OR Edge System Intake-Throttle Body- Control set
 
Thanks.


<Marc.Masnor@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183491354.071340.118300@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
> On Jun 29, 1:12 am, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Gears are the only way to properly fix it and restore the peformance you
>> remember. I'd like to see a picture of the hi-lift mounted under the
>> hood,
>> if you dont mind.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> "Masnor" <Mas...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:3%Fgi.652288$2Q1.204381@newsfe16.lga...
>>
>>
>>
>> >I have a 2000 TJ Sahara manual transmission. Good shape, used mostly on
>> >the road for daily driver. But for hunting and looks I got a 4 inch
>> >lift,
>> >front and rear TrueTracs, and tires went up to 33s. It looks good,
>> >drives
>> >well on road, and gets me in and out of the hunting area with ease.

>>
>> > However, 5th gear lags too much to use on the road. Engine is the
>> > 4.0L.

>>
>> > I know I can change the ring and pinion set front and rear, but I'd
>> > like
>> > your thoughts on theEdgeSystem for a HP increase instead.

>>
>> > One downside of theEdgeSystem is that my high lift jack is under the
>> > hood and I think the intake will be in the way of the jack. I have a
>> > new
>> > Warn tire carrier and bumper which can't accommodate the jack and I
>> > really
>> > don't want to change it. So, I'll have to find some way to carry the
>> > jack.

>>
>> > Mas...@cox.net- Hide quoted text -

>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> You asked about the under the hood mount.
> This is the link http://www.mapgear.net/on_products_TJliftmount.htm.
>
> There is a bit of con discussion on the forums, but I like the mount.
> Contrary to the forum discussion a little over one half of the weight
> rests on a roughly U-shaped bracket that is 99 percent of what you
> buy. The rest is a bit of rubber tube to protect one support rod and
> a spring tie-down. The U-shaped bracket goes over the battery (which
> concerned me, but I've replaced the battery with little extra effort.
> The bracket is supported by three points - two on the firewall and one
> under the back of the fuse box on the inner fender. The fire wall
> supports use existing bolts that you loosen and the bracket slides
> down into slots. The third support point under the fuse box uses a
> longer replacement "bolt" which I didn't really need.
>
> Access to the battery for jump starts is no problem. If you even
> think you will need to replace the battery on the trail, BE SURE to
> take the right tools. Getting to the two firewall bolts is not easy,
> but is possible from the ground. It is one of those times when you
> only turn a bolt about 1/16 of a turn at a time. But, you will only
> do this every few years when you replace a battery. In between those
> times you will have your jack, it will be clean, and having it warm
> and dry in the winter is a really good thing.
>
> The base of the jack is over the battery. There is a rubber shield
> flap (more for piece of mind than any potential for shorting out).
> The base is held securely in place by a bolt pointing up from the
> bracket that goes through one of the holes in the jack upright. A
> nut, modified to be hand tightened by the application of a plastic
> fitting, holts the jack down. The "plastic" part is not cheap. The
> hand tighten nut looks vaguely like a water faucet handle. I have to
> tighten it when I change the oil, but it is secure. And, it has a
> tether. The top of the jack rests on top of the driver side support
> bar which you have to turn upside down for hood clearance. The top of
> the jack can just touch the power steering fluid cap on occasion. You
> have some horizontal adjustment as to where the top of the jack rests.
>
> If you wash off the mud and dust from time to time under the hood the
> jack will stay relatively clean. What does collect on it is often
> slightly oily which only serves to keep the jack from rusting. It is
> out of sight and I think less likely to be stolen. It has been very
> warm when I've used it in the summer, but it has not been too hot to
> touch - as suggested in one of the forum comments.
>
> Also for me, it has always been convenient to get to. The forum
> suggests the jeep will be in a precarious condition and that the hood
> will be a bad place to access. Maybe, but I'd rather be on the side
> of the jeep than in front or behind it.
>
> BTW, I have no relationship with mapgear.net or the On_Product
> inventor, other than being a customer.
>




Carl S 07-04-2007 01:31 AM

Re: New Ring and Pinion Set OR Edge System Intake-Throttle Body- Control set
 
Thanks.


<Marc.Masnor@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1183491354.071340.118300@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
> On Jun 29, 1:12 am, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Gears are the only way to properly fix it and restore the peformance you
>> remember. I'd like to see a picture of the hi-lift mounted under the
>> hood,
>> if you dont mind.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> "Masnor" <Mas...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:3%Fgi.652288$2Q1.204381@newsfe16.lga...
>>
>>
>>
>> >I have a 2000 TJ Sahara manual transmission. Good shape, used mostly on
>> >the road for daily driver. But for hunting and looks I got a 4 inch
>> >lift,
>> >front and rear TrueTracs, and tires went up to 33s. It looks good,
>> >drives
>> >well on road, and gets me in and out of the hunting area with ease.

>>
>> > However, 5th gear lags too much to use on the road. Engine is the
>> > 4.0L.

>>
>> > I know I can change the ring and pinion set front and rear, but I'd
>> > like
>> > your thoughts on theEdgeSystem for a HP increase instead.

>>
>> > One downside of theEdgeSystem is that my high lift jack is under the
>> > hood and I think the intake will be in the way of the jack. I have a
>> > new
>> > Warn tire carrier and bumper which can't accommodate the jack and I
>> > really
>> > don't want to change it. So, I'll have to find some way to carry the
>> > jack.

>>
>> > Mas...@cox.net- Hide quoted text -

>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> You asked about the under the hood mount.
> This is the link http://www.mapgear.net/on_products_TJliftmount.htm.
>
> There is a bit of con discussion on the forums, but I like the mount.
> Contrary to the forum discussion a little over one half of the weight
> rests on a roughly U-shaped bracket that is 99 percent of what you
> buy. The rest is a bit of rubber tube to protect one support rod and
> a spring tie-down. The U-shaped bracket goes over the battery (which
> concerned me, but I've replaced the battery with little extra effort.
> The bracket is supported by three points - two on the firewall and one
> under the back of the fuse box on the inner fender. The fire wall
> supports use existing bolts that you loosen and the bracket slides
> down into slots. The third support point under the fuse box uses a
> longer replacement "bolt" which I didn't really need.
>
> Access to the battery for jump starts is no problem. If you even
> think you will need to replace the battery on the trail, BE SURE to
> take the right tools. Getting to the two firewall bolts is not easy,
> but is possible from the ground. It is one of those times when you
> only turn a bolt about 1/16 of a turn at a time. But, you will only
> do this every few years when you replace a battery. In between those
> times you will have your jack, it will be clean, and having it warm
> and dry in the winter is a really good thing.
>
> The base of the jack is over the battery. There is a rubber shield
> flap (more for piece of mind than any potential for shorting out).
> The base is held securely in place by a bolt pointing up from the
> bracket that goes through one of the holes in the jack upright. A
> nut, modified to be hand tightened by the application of a plastic
> fitting, holts the jack down. The "plastic" part is not cheap. The
> hand tighten nut looks vaguely like a water faucet handle. I have to
> tighten it when I change the oil, but it is secure. And, it has a
> tether. The top of the jack rests on top of the driver side support
> bar which you have to turn upside down for hood clearance. The top of
> the jack can just touch the power steering fluid cap on occasion. You
> have some horizontal adjustment as to where the top of the jack rests.
>
> If you wash off the mud and dust from time to time under the hood the
> jack will stay relatively clean. What does collect on it is often
> slightly oily which only serves to keep the jack from rusting. It is
> out of sight and I think less likely to be stolen. It has been very
> warm when I've used it in the summer, but it has not been too hot to
> touch - as suggested in one of the forum comments.
>
> Also for me, it has always been convenient to get to. The forum
> suggests the jeep will be in a precarious condition and that the hood
> will be a bad place to access. Maybe, but I'd rather be on the side
> of the jeep than in front or behind it.
>
> BTW, I have no relationship with mapgear.net or the On_Product
> inventor, other than being a customer.
>





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