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Jeff Gross 10-28-2003 12:03 PM

Re: New Jeep Commercial
 
Nice!

- JG


travis wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 19:33:58 -0800, "Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com>
> shared the following:
>
>
>>stupid commercial. Poor articulation, hell i could do that with a stock 65
>>VW beetle

>
>
> hahaha! You're right! You could do even better if you ripped the
> sway bar off of that otherwise stock VW beetle! How do I know?
> http://bugadventures.dyndns.org/temp/articulation1.jpg
>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!



Paul Calman 10-28-2003 12:26 PM

Re: New Jeep Commercial
 

> hahaha! You're right! You could do even better if you ripped the
> sway bar off of that otherwise stock VW beetle! How do I know?
> http://bugadventures.dyndns.org/temp/articulation1.jpg


Cool site, brings back a lot of fun memories. My first "car" was a 36
horsepower 1958 Baja Bug, next, a Myer's Tow'd (still have the chassis and
1970 "special construction" street-legal title), and a fleet of other VWs
including 2 "Baja Buses" made from a 69 and 70 type 2's.
Dude, put the battery in a box with a vent (*strap it down, it hurts in a
rollover), seal the holes in the floorpan (use rubber plugs for draining and
hose-out),. and you'll get more low-end torque out of a 4-into-1 exhaust
with a restrictive muffler. Disk brake conversion is probably the best
upgrade you can do for the money.
have fun
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



Paul Calman 10-28-2003 12:26 PM

Re: New Jeep Commercial
 

> hahaha! You're right! You could do even better if you ripped the
> sway bar off of that otherwise stock VW beetle! How do I know?
> http://bugadventures.dyndns.org/temp/articulation1.jpg


Cool site, brings back a lot of fun memories. My first "car" was a 36
horsepower 1958 Baja Bug, next, a Myer's Tow'd (still have the chassis and
1970 "special construction" street-legal title), and a fleet of other VWs
including 2 "Baja Buses" made from a 69 and 70 type 2's.
Dude, put the battery in a box with a vent (*strap it down, it hurts in a
rollover), seal the holes in the floorpan (use rubber plugs for draining and
hose-out),. and you'll get more low-end torque out of a 4-into-1 exhaust
with a restrictive muffler. Disk brake conversion is probably the best
upgrade you can do for the money.
have fun
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



Paul Calman 10-28-2003 12:26 PM

Re: New Jeep Commercial
 

> hahaha! You're right! You could do even better if you ripped the
> sway bar off of that otherwise stock VW beetle! How do I know?
> http://bugadventures.dyndns.org/temp/articulation1.jpg


Cool site, brings back a lot of fun memories. My first "car" was a 36
horsepower 1958 Baja Bug, next, a Myer's Tow'd (still have the chassis and
1970 "special construction" street-legal title), and a fleet of other VWs
including 2 "Baja Buses" made from a 69 and 70 type 2's.
Dude, put the battery in a box with a vent (*strap it down, it hurts in a
rollover), seal the holes in the floorpan (use rubber plugs for draining and
hose-out),. and you'll get more low-end torque out of a 4-into-1 exhaust
with a restrictive muffler. Disk brake conversion is probably the best
upgrade you can do for the money.
have fun
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



bob zee 10-28-2003 02:44 PM

Re: New Jeep Commercial
 


"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bnm8s4$13ah74$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> and you'll get more low-end torque out of a 4-into-1 exhaust
> with a restrictive muffler. > Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California


how does one attain this 'more torque' from the special 'restrictive'
muffler?

--
bob z.

"people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
everyday"©



bob zee 10-28-2003 02:44 PM

Re: New Jeep Commercial
 


"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bnm8s4$13ah74$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> and you'll get more low-end torque out of a 4-into-1 exhaust
> with a restrictive muffler. > Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California


how does one attain this 'more torque' from the special 'restrictive'
muffler?

--
bob z.

"people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
everyday"©



bob zee 10-28-2003 02:44 PM

Re: New Jeep Commercial
 


"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bnm8s4$13ah74$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> and you'll get more low-end torque out of a 4-into-1 exhaust
> with a restrictive muffler. > Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California


how does one attain this 'more torque' from the special 'restrictive'
muffler?

--
bob z.

"people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
everyday"©



Jerry Bransford 10-28-2003 03:30 PM

Re: New Jeep Commercial
 
Bob, torque is produced when an engine works into a resistance. Let an
engine run on a torque-measuring device with no load on the engine, and the
produced torque will be nil. Place a braking load on the engine and the
amount of torque produced will suddenly and dramatically increase.

Same with an exhaust system, the engine needs a certain amount of
restriction to work into to produce maximum torque. Run with a wide-open
exhaust system like headers only used in a dragster and they produce lots of
HP at high rpms. Restricting the exhaust reduces high rpm HP but boosts
low-end torque. That's why header and exhaust design is as much black-art
as it is science. And why the urge to go to so-called "high performance
low-restriction" exhaust and cats is not a good thing to succumb to for a
Jeep because doing so can actually reduce the amount of torque produced...
which is so important for a vehicle that sees much offroading.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"bob zee" <cam509@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
news:bnmh61$13149e$1@ID-177997.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
>
> "Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
> news:bnm8s4$13ah74$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > and you'll get more low-end torque out of a 4-into-1 exhaust
> > with a restrictive muffler. > Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

>
> how does one attain this 'more torque' from the special 'restrictive'
> muffler?
>
> --
> bob z.
>
> "people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
> everyday"©
>
>




Jerry Bransford 10-28-2003 03:30 PM

Re: New Jeep Commercial
 
Bob, torque is produced when an engine works into a resistance. Let an
engine run on a torque-measuring device with no load on the engine, and the
produced torque will be nil. Place a braking load on the engine and the
amount of torque produced will suddenly and dramatically increase.

Same with an exhaust system, the engine needs a certain amount of
restriction to work into to produce maximum torque. Run with a wide-open
exhaust system like headers only used in a dragster and they produce lots of
HP at high rpms. Restricting the exhaust reduces high rpm HP but boosts
low-end torque. That's why header and exhaust design is as much black-art
as it is science. And why the urge to go to so-called "high performance
low-restriction" exhaust and cats is not a good thing to succumb to for a
Jeep because doing so can actually reduce the amount of torque produced...
which is so important for a vehicle that sees much offroading.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"bob zee" <cam509@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
news:bnmh61$13149e$1@ID-177997.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
>
> "Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
> news:bnm8s4$13ah74$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > and you'll get more low-end torque out of a 4-into-1 exhaust
> > with a restrictive muffler. > Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

>
> how does one attain this 'more torque' from the special 'restrictive'
> muffler?
>
> --
> bob z.
>
> "people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
> everyday"©
>
>




Jerry Bransford 10-28-2003 03:30 PM

Re: New Jeep Commercial
 
Bob, torque is produced when an engine works into a resistance. Let an
engine run on a torque-measuring device with no load on the engine, and the
produced torque will be nil. Place a braking load on the engine and the
amount of torque produced will suddenly and dramatically increase.

Same with an exhaust system, the engine needs a certain amount of
restriction to work into to produce maximum torque. Run with a wide-open
exhaust system like headers only used in a dragster and they produce lots of
HP at high rpms. Restricting the exhaust reduces high rpm HP but boosts
low-end torque. That's why header and exhaust design is as much black-art
as it is science. And why the urge to go to so-called "high performance
low-restriction" exhaust and cats is not a good thing to succumb to for a
Jeep because doing so can actually reduce the amount of torque produced...
which is so important for a vehicle that sees much offroading.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"bob zee" <cam509@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
news:bnmh61$13149e$1@ID-177997.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
>
> "Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
> news:bnm8s4$13ah74$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > and you'll get more low-end torque out of a 4-into-1 exhaust
> > with a restrictive muffler. > Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

>
> how does one attain this 'more torque' from the special 'restrictive'
> muffler?
>
> --
> bob z.
>
> "people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
> everyday"©
>
>





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