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DAVID DRUM 06-11-2004 09:35 PM

new jeep any suggestions?
 
Started looking for my next jeep tonight. Will trade in my 91yj 4cyl, 5
speed, soft top. Thinking of an automatic, with a/c soft top, wrangler....
dare i say the word..... How does the 4 cyl preform or should I get the 6
cyl? And can you take the top completely off the new models like I do on
my 91? How do the new 4 wheel drives work?

Any suggestions to help me be a happy jeeper???????? And what is the
rubicon???? is it worth the extra money?

thanks

David





L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-11-2004 11:28 PM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 
Where do you live that there's not one hill or bridge for five
hundred miles in any direction?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DAVID DRUM wrote:
>
> Started looking for my next jeep tonight. Will trade in my 91yj 4cyl, 5
> speed, soft top. Thinking of an automatic, with a/c soft top, wrangler....
> dare i say the word..... How does the 4 cyl preform or should I get the 6
> cyl? And can you take the top completely off the new models like I do on
> my 91? How do the new 4 wheel drives work?
>
> Any suggestions to help me be a happy jeeper???????? And what is the
> rubicon???? is it worth the extra money?
>
> thanks
>
> David


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-11-2004 11:28 PM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 
Where do you live that there's not one hill or bridge for five
hundred miles in any direction?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DAVID DRUM wrote:
>
> Started looking for my next jeep tonight. Will trade in my 91yj 4cyl, 5
> speed, soft top. Thinking of an automatic, with a/c soft top, wrangler....
> dare i say the word..... How does the 4 cyl preform or should I get the 6
> cyl? And can you take the top completely off the new models like I do on
> my 91? How do the new 4 wheel drives work?
>
> Any suggestions to help me be a happy jeeper???????? And what is the
> rubicon???? is it worth the extra money?
>
> thanks
>
> David


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-11-2004 11:28 PM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 
Where do you live that there's not one hill or bridge for five
hundred miles in any direction?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DAVID DRUM wrote:
>
> Started looking for my next jeep tonight. Will trade in my 91yj 4cyl, 5
> speed, soft top. Thinking of an automatic, with a/c soft top, wrangler....
> dare i say the word..... How does the 4 cyl preform or should I get the 6
> cyl? And can you take the top completely off the new models like I do on
> my 91? How do the new 4 wheel drives work?
>
> Any suggestions to help me be a happy jeeper???????? And what is the
> rubicon???? is it worth the extra money?
>
> thanks
>
> David


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-11-2004 11:28 PM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 
Where do you live that there's not one hill or bridge for five
hundred miles in any direction?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DAVID DRUM wrote:
>
> Started looking for my next jeep tonight. Will trade in my 91yj 4cyl, 5
> speed, soft top. Thinking of an automatic, with a/c soft top, wrangler....
> dare i say the word..... How does the 4 cyl preform or should I get the 6
> cyl? And can you take the top completely off the new models like I do on
> my 91? How do the new 4 wheel drives work?
>
> Any suggestions to help me be a happy jeeper???????? And what is the
> rubicon???? is it worth the extra money?
>
> thanks
>
> David


Ichabod Shagnasti 06-12-2004 07:15 AM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 
I've only had the 6 cyl TJs, and I will say that I'll always have at least a
6 cyl one. The 4 cyl does ok, but from what I've heard it's a bit
underpowered on the freeway and gets under powered quickly if you start
adding larger tires. Not much difference in gas mileage between the two
either so the main difference is in the initial cost. Now... you say you
have a YJ w/ a 4 cyl. If you're happy with that, you may be fine w/ a newer
one as well.

You can take the top completely off (both soft & hard)... not sure how easy
it is compared to a YJ since I've never had one, but on the TJs it's a piece
of cake.

4WD works well. On the Wrangler it's still "part-time" meaning you need to
be on a surface w/ poor traction to turn it on. If you run in 4WD on dry
pavement, it's not too good for it.

The Rubicon is a TJ with many "upgrades" that offroaders frequently do
aftermarket. In particular it has selectable lockers front & rear so it's
darn near impossible to stop.

"DAVID DRUM" <drumsd@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:R5tyc.6283$Y3.733@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
> Started looking for my next jeep tonight. Will trade in my 91yj 4cyl, 5
> speed, soft top. Thinking of an automatic, with a/c soft top,

wrangler....
> dare i say the word..... How does the 4 cyl preform or should I get the 6
> cyl? And can you take the top completely off the new models like I do on
> my 91? How do the new 4 wheel drives work?
>
> Any suggestions to help me be a happy jeeper???????? And what is the
> rubicon???? is it worth the extra money?
>
> thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
>




Ichabod Shagnasti 06-12-2004 07:15 AM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 
I've only had the 6 cyl TJs, and I will say that I'll always have at least a
6 cyl one. The 4 cyl does ok, but from what I've heard it's a bit
underpowered on the freeway and gets under powered quickly if you start
adding larger tires. Not much difference in gas mileage between the two
either so the main difference is in the initial cost. Now... you say you
have a YJ w/ a 4 cyl. If you're happy with that, you may be fine w/ a newer
one as well.

You can take the top completely off (both soft & hard)... not sure how easy
it is compared to a YJ since I've never had one, but on the TJs it's a piece
of cake.

4WD works well. On the Wrangler it's still "part-time" meaning you need to
be on a surface w/ poor traction to turn it on. If you run in 4WD on dry
pavement, it's not too good for it.

The Rubicon is a TJ with many "upgrades" that offroaders frequently do
aftermarket. In particular it has selectable lockers front & rear so it's
darn near impossible to stop.

"DAVID DRUM" <drumsd@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:R5tyc.6283$Y3.733@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
> Started looking for my next jeep tonight. Will trade in my 91yj 4cyl, 5
> speed, soft top. Thinking of an automatic, with a/c soft top,

wrangler....
> dare i say the word..... How does the 4 cyl preform or should I get the 6
> cyl? And can you take the top completely off the new models like I do on
> my 91? How do the new 4 wheel drives work?
>
> Any suggestions to help me be a happy jeeper???????? And what is the
> rubicon???? is it worth the extra money?
>
> thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
>




Ichabod Shagnasti 06-12-2004 07:15 AM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 
I've only had the 6 cyl TJs, and I will say that I'll always have at least a
6 cyl one. The 4 cyl does ok, but from what I've heard it's a bit
underpowered on the freeway and gets under powered quickly if you start
adding larger tires. Not much difference in gas mileage between the two
either so the main difference is in the initial cost. Now... you say you
have a YJ w/ a 4 cyl. If you're happy with that, you may be fine w/ a newer
one as well.

You can take the top completely off (both soft & hard)... not sure how easy
it is compared to a YJ since I've never had one, but on the TJs it's a piece
of cake.

4WD works well. On the Wrangler it's still "part-time" meaning you need to
be on a surface w/ poor traction to turn it on. If you run in 4WD on dry
pavement, it's not too good for it.

The Rubicon is a TJ with many "upgrades" that offroaders frequently do
aftermarket. In particular it has selectable lockers front & rear so it's
darn near impossible to stop.

"DAVID DRUM" <drumsd@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:R5tyc.6283$Y3.733@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
> Started looking for my next jeep tonight. Will trade in my 91yj 4cyl, 5
> speed, soft top. Thinking of an automatic, with a/c soft top,

wrangler....
> dare i say the word..... How does the 4 cyl preform or should I get the 6
> cyl? And can you take the top completely off the new models like I do on
> my 91? How do the new 4 wheel drives work?
>
> Any suggestions to help me be a happy jeeper???????? And what is the
> rubicon???? is it worth the extra money?
>
> thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
>




Ichabod Shagnasti 06-12-2004 07:15 AM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 
I've only had the 6 cyl TJs, and I will say that I'll always have at least a
6 cyl one. The 4 cyl does ok, but from what I've heard it's a bit
underpowered on the freeway and gets under powered quickly if you start
adding larger tires. Not much difference in gas mileage between the two
either so the main difference is in the initial cost. Now... you say you
have a YJ w/ a 4 cyl. If you're happy with that, you may be fine w/ a newer
one as well.

You can take the top completely off (both soft & hard)... not sure how easy
it is compared to a YJ since I've never had one, but on the TJs it's a piece
of cake.

4WD works well. On the Wrangler it's still "part-time" meaning you need to
be on a surface w/ poor traction to turn it on. If you run in 4WD on dry
pavement, it's not too good for it.

The Rubicon is a TJ with many "upgrades" that offroaders frequently do
aftermarket. In particular it has selectable lockers front & rear so it's
darn near impossible to stop.

"DAVID DRUM" <drumsd@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:R5tyc.6283$Y3.733@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
> Started looking for my next jeep tonight. Will trade in my 91yj 4cyl, 5
> speed, soft top. Thinking of an automatic, with a/c soft top,

wrangler....
> dare i say the word..... How does the 4 cyl preform or should I get the 6
> cyl? And can you take the top completely off the new models like I do on
> my 91? How do the new 4 wheel drives work?
>
> Any suggestions to help me be a happy jeeper???????? And what is the
> rubicon???? is it worth the extra money?
>
> thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
>




Cherokee-LTD 06-12-2004 11:55 AM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:40CA7865.30B59A45@cox.net...
: Where do you live that there's not one hill or bridge for five
: hundred miles in any direction?
: God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O

He might be in Saskatchewan Canada - you can watch your dog run away for
three days.

-Brian



Cherokee-LTD 06-12-2004 11:55 AM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:40CA7865.30B59A45@cox.net...
: Where do you live that there's not one hill or bridge for five
: hundred miles in any direction?
: God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O

He might be in Saskatchewan Canada - you can watch your dog run away for
three days.

-Brian



Cherokee-LTD 06-12-2004 11:55 AM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:40CA7865.30B59A45@cox.net...
: Where do you live that there's not one hill or bridge for five
: hundred miles in any direction?
: God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O

He might be in Saskatchewan Canada - you can watch your dog run away for
three days.

-Brian



Cherokee-LTD 06-12-2004 11:55 AM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:40CA7865.30B59A45@cox.net...
: Where do you live that there's not one hill or bridge for five
: hundred miles in any direction?
: God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O

He might be in Saskatchewan Canada - you can watch your dog run away for
three days.

-Brian



twaldron 06-13-2004 09:51 PM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 
Do not consider an automatic with a 4 cyl. I'd highly recommend getting
a 6cyl/auto combo. I've had a 4cyl and five 6cyls (4 of those...guess
which I like better?

DAVID DRUM wrote:
> Started looking for my next jeep tonight. Will trade in my 91yj 4cyl, 5
> speed, soft top. Thinking of an automatic, with a/c soft top, wrangler....
> dare i say the word..... How does the 4 cyl preform or should I get the 6
> cyl? And can you take the top completely off the new models like I do on
> my 91? How do the new 4 wheel drives work?
>
> Any suggestions to help me be a happy jeeper???????? And what is the
> rubicon???? is it worth the extra money?
>
> thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
>


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 06-13-2004 09:51 PM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 
Do not consider an automatic with a 4 cyl. I'd highly recommend getting
a 6cyl/auto combo. I've had a 4cyl and five 6cyls (4 of those...guess
which I like better?

DAVID DRUM wrote:
> Started looking for my next jeep tonight. Will trade in my 91yj 4cyl, 5
> speed, soft top. Thinking of an automatic, with a/c soft top, wrangler....
> dare i say the word..... How does the 4 cyl preform or should I get the 6
> cyl? And can you take the top completely off the new models like I do on
> my 91? How do the new 4 wheel drives work?
>
> Any suggestions to help me be a happy jeeper???????? And what is the
> rubicon???? is it worth the extra money?
>
> thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
>


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 06-13-2004 09:51 PM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 
Do not consider an automatic with a 4 cyl. I'd highly recommend getting
a 6cyl/auto combo. I've had a 4cyl and five 6cyls (4 of those...guess
which I like better?

DAVID DRUM wrote:
> Started looking for my next jeep tonight. Will trade in my 91yj 4cyl, 5
> speed, soft top. Thinking of an automatic, with a/c soft top, wrangler....
> dare i say the word..... How does the 4 cyl preform or should I get the 6
> cyl? And can you take the top completely off the new models like I do on
> my 91? How do the new 4 wheel drives work?
>
> Any suggestions to help me be a happy jeeper???????? And what is the
> rubicon???? is it worth the extra money?
>
> thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
>


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 06-13-2004 09:51 PM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 
Do not consider an automatic with a 4 cyl. I'd highly recommend getting
a 6cyl/auto combo. I've had a 4cyl and five 6cyls (4 of those...guess
which I like better?

DAVID DRUM wrote:
> Started looking for my next jeep tonight. Will trade in my 91yj 4cyl, 5
> speed, soft top. Thinking of an automatic, with a/c soft top, wrangler....
> dare i say the word..... How does the 4 cyl preform or should I get the 6
> cyl? And can you take the top completely off the new models like I do on
> my 91? How do the new 4 wheel drives work?
>
> Any suggestions to help me be a happy jeeper???????? And what is the
> rubicon???? is it worth the extra money?
>
> thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
>


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


johnny 06-13-2004 11:27 PM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 
i agree totally. not enough power with the 4 cyl.
john

"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:ow7zc.6108$c81.4585@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
> Do not consider an automatic with a 4 cyl. I'd highly recommend getting
> a 6cyl/auto combo. I've had a 4cyl and five 6cyls (4 of those...guess
> which I like better?
>
> DAVID DRUM wrote:
> > Started looking for my next jeep tonight. Will trade in my 91yj 4cyl, 5
> > speed, soft top. Thinking of an automatic, with a/c soft top,

wrangler....
> > dare i say the word..... How does the 4 cyl preform or should I get the

6
> > cyl? And can you take the top completely off the new models like I do

on
> > my 91? How do the new 4 wheel drives work?
> >
> > Any suggestions to help me be a happy jeeper???????? And what is the
> > rubicon???? is it worth the extra money?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> >

>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>




johnny 06-13-2004 11:27 PM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 
i agree totally. not enough power with the 4 cyl.
john

"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:ow7zc.6108$c81.4585@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
> Do not consider an automatic with a 4 cyl. I'd highly recommend getting
> a 6cyl/auto combo. I've had a 4cyl and five 6cyls (4 of those...guess
> which I like better?
>
> DAVID DRUM wrote:
> > Started looking for my next jeep tonight. Will trade in my 91yj 4cyl, 5
> > speed, soft top. Thinking of an automatic, with a/c soft top,

wrangler....
> > dare i say the word..... How does the 4 cyl preform or should I get the

6
> > cyl? And can you take the top completely off the new models like I do

on
> > my 91? How do the new 4 wheel drives work?
> >
> > Any suggestions to help me be a happy jeeper???????? And what is the
> > rubicon???? is it worth the extra money?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> >

>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>




johnny 06-13-2004 11:27 PM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 
i agree totally. not enough power with the 4 cyl.
john

"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:ow7zc.6108$c81.4585@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
> Do not consider an automatic with a 4 cyl. I'd highly recommend getting
> a 6cyl/auto combo. I've had a 4cyl and five 6cyls (4 of those...guess
> which I like better?
>
> DAVID DRUM wrote:
> > Started looking for my next jeep tonight. Will trade in my 91yj 4cyl, 5
> > speed, soft top. Thinking of an automatic, with a/c soft top,

wrangler....
> > dare i say the word..... How does the 4 cyl preform or should I get the

6
> > cyl? And can you take the top completely off the new models like I do

on
> > my 91? How do the new 4 wheel drives work?
> >
> > Any suggestions to help me be a happy jeeper???????? And what is the
> > rubicon???? is it worth the extra money?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> >

>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>




johnny 06-13-2004 11:27 PM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 
i agree totally. not enough power with the 4 cyl.
john

"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:ow7zc.6108$c81.4585@newssvr22.news.prodigy.co m...
> Do not consider an automatic with a 4 cyl. I'd highly recommend getting
> a 6cyl/auto combo. I've had a 4cyl and five 6cyls (4 of those...guess
> which I like better?
>
> DAVID DRUM wrote:
> > Started looking for my next jeep tonight. Will trade in my 91yj 4cyl, 5
> > speed, soft top. Thinking of an automatic, with a/c soft top,

wrangler....
> > dare i say the word..... How does the 4 cyl preform or should I get the

6
> > cyl? And can you take the top completely off the new models like I do

on
> > my 91? How do the new 4 wheel drives work?
> >
> > Any suggestions to help me be a happy jeeper???????? And what is the
> > rubicon???? is it worth the extra money?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> >

>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>




DAVID DRUM 06-15-2004 05:45 PM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 
Thanks for all who responded. I am trying to get a 2004 with the Columbia
Edition package, 6 with ac and auto if he comes through.

david

"DAVID DRUM" <drumsd@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:R5tyc.6283$Y3.733@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
> Started looking for my next jeep tonight. Will trade in my 91yj 4cyl, 5
> speed, soft top. Thinking of an automatic, with a/c soft top,

wrangler....
> dare i say the word..... How does the 4 cyl preform or should I get the 6
> cyl? And can you take the top completely off the new models like I do on
> my 91? How do the new 4 wheel drives work?
>
> Any suggestions to help me be a happy jeeper???????? And what is the
> rubicon???? is it worth the extra money?
>
> thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
>




DAVID DRUM 06-15-2004 05:45 PM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 
Thanks for all who responded. I am trying to get a 2004 with the Columbia
Edition package, 6 with ac and auto if he comes through.

david

"DAVID DRUM" <drumsd@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:R5tyc.6283$Y3.733@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
> Started looking for my next jeep tonight. Will trade in my 91yj 4cyl, 5
> speed, soft top. Thinking of an automatic, with a/c soft top,

wrangler....
> dare i say the word..... How does the 4 cyl preform or should I get the 6
> cyl? And can you take the top completely off the new models like I do on
> my 91? How do the new 4 wheel drives work?
>
> Any suggestions to help me be a happy jeeper???????? And what is the
> rubicon???? is it worth the extra money?
>
> thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
>




DAVID DRUM 06-15-2004 05:45 PM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 
Thanks for all who responded. I am trying to get a 2004 with the Columbia
Edition package, 6 with ac and auto if he comes through.

david

"DAVID DRUM" <drumsd@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:R5tyc.6283$Y3.733@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
> Started looking for my next jeep tonight. Will trade in my 91yj 4cyl, 5
> speed, soft top. Thinking of an automatic, with a/c soft top,

wrangler....
> dare i say the word..... How does the 4 cyl preform or should I get the 6
> cyl? And can you take the top completely off the new models like I do on
> my 91? How do the new 4 wheel drives work?
>
> Any suggestions to help me be a happy jeeper???????? And what is the
> rubicon???? is it worth the extra money?
>
> thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
>




DAVID DRUM 06-15-2004 05:45 PM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 
Thanks for all who responded. I am trying to get a 2004 with the Columbia
Edition package, 6 with ac and auto if he comes through.

david

"DAVID DRUM" <drumsd@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:R5tyc.6283$Y3.733@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
> Started looking for my next jeep tonight. Will trade in my 91yj 4cyl, 5
> speed, soft top. Thinking of an automatic, with a/c soft top,

wrangler....
> dare i say the word..... How does the 4 cyl preform or should I get the 6
> cyl? And can you take the top completely off the new models like I do on
> my 91? How do the new 4 wheel drives work?
>
> Any suggestions to help me be a happy jeeper???????? And what is the
> rubicon???? is it worth the extra money?
>
> thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
>




Eugene 06-17-2004 04:20 AM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 
heard the recommendations. Is the mileage REALLY similar? any 4 cyl
owners to attest to this?
and what if i've driven a 4 cyl piece of garbage all along. u think it
will really bother me?
Gene---another soon to be wrangler owner



"DAVID DRUM" <drumsd@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<a6Kzc.265$bs4.243@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net>...
> Thanks for all who responded. I am trying to get a 2004 with the Columbia
> Edition package, 6 with ac and auto if he comes through.
>
> david
>
> "DAVID DRUM" <drumsd@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:R5tyc.6283$Y3.733@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
> > Started looking for my next jeep tonight. Will trade in my 91yj 4cyl, 5
> > speed, soft top. Thinking of an automatic, with a/c soft top,

> wrangler....
> > dare i say the word..... How does the 4 cyl preform or should I get the 6
> > cyl? And can you take the top completely off the new models like I do on
> > my 91? How do the new 4 wheel drives work?
> >
> > Any suggestions to help me be a happy jeeper???????? And what is the
> > rubicon???? is it worth the extra money?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> >


Eugene 06-17-2004 04:20 AM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 
heard the recommendations. Is the mileage REALLY similar? any 4 cyl
owners to attest to this?
and what if i've driven a 4 cyl piece of garbage all along. u think it
will really bother me?
Gene---another soon to be wrangler owner



"DAVID DRUM" <drumsd@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<a6Kzc.265$bs4.243@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net>...
> Thanks for all who responded. I am trying to get a 2004 with the Columbia
> Edition package, 6 with ac and auto if he comes through.
>
> david
>
> "DAVID DRUM" <drumsd@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:R5tyc.6283$Y3.733@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
> > Started looking for my next jeep tonight. Will trade in my 91yj 4cyl, 5
> > speed, soft top. Thinking of an automatic, with a/c soft top,

> wrangler....
> > dare i say the word..... How does the 4 cyl preform or should I get the 6
> > cyl? And can you take the top completely off the new models like I do on
> > my 91? How do the new 4 wheel drives work?
> >
> > Any suggestions to help me be a happy jeeper???????? And what is the
> > rubicon???? is it worth the extra money?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> >


Eugene 06-17-2004 04:20 AM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 
heard the recommendations. Is the mileage REALLY similar? any 4 cyl
owners to attest to this?
and what if i've driven a 4 cyl piece of garbage all along. u think it
will really bother me?
Gene---another soon to be wrangler owner



"DAVID DRUM" <drumsd@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<a6Kzc.265$bs4.243@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net>...
> Thanks for all who responded. I am trying to get a 2004 with the Columbia
> Edition package, 6 with ac and auto if he comes through.
>
> david
>
> "DAVID DRUM" <drumsd@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:R5tyc.6283$Y3.733@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
> > Started looking for my next jeep tonight. Will trade in my 91yj 4cyl, 5
> > speed, soft top. Thinking of an automatic, with a/c soft top,

> wrangler....
> > dare i say the word..... How does the 4 cyl preform or should I get the 6
> > cyl? And can you take the top completely off the new models like I do on
> > my 91? How do the new 4 wheel drives work?
> >
> > Any suggestions to help me be a happy jeeper???????? And what is the
> > rubicon???? is it worth the extra money?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> >


Eugene 06-17-2004 04:20 AM

Re: new jeep any suggestions?
 
heard the recommendations. Is the mileage REALLY similar? any 4 cyl
owners to attest to this?
and what if i've driven a 4 cyl piece of garbage all along. u think it
will really bother me?
Gene---another soon to be wrangler owner



"DAVID DRUM" <drumsd@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<a6Kzc.265$bs4.243@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net>...
> Thanks for all who responded. I am trying to get a 2004 with the Columbia
> Edition package, 6 with ac and auto if he comes through.
>
> david
>
> "DAVID DRUM" <drumsd@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:R5tyc.6283$Y3.733@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
> > Started looking for my next jeep tonight. Will trade in my 91yj 4cyl, 5
> > speed, soft top. Thinking of an automatic, with a/c soft top,

> wrangler....
> > dare i say the word..... How does the 4 cyl preform or should I get the 6
> > cyl? And can you take the top completely off the new models like I do on
> > my 91? How do the new 4 wheel drives work?
> >
> > Any suggestions to help me be a happy jeeper???????? And what is the
> > rubicon???? is it worth the extra money?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> >



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