Re: New to Group!
 

Hi Mike,
Thank You for the information. That is so helpful! Um, they
determined the computer was bad by putting it on the computer at the
Jeep dealership. Here's what it would do. I would try cranking it up,
and it would crank fine, but the engine wouldn't turn over. Then I
noticed at some point, that the check engine light wouldn't come on,
wouldn't come on, and after about the 4th try, or 6th try, or whatever,
I'd see it flicker. I knew once I saw it flicker, that it would crank
up on the next try. So I was able to get it started for awhile. Then
I found that if I kept the auxillary on, I could get it started because
the computer didn't shut off. So I put it on a slow trickle charge to
keep the battery charged, but then after a day it wouldn't start again.
I was afraid I messed it up, and so then my husband just went ahead
and took it off. But we will check into what you told us also before
we spend the money.

We really don't mind spending the money much (although if I had my way,
I'd trade her in for a 6 cylinder w/ a little lift, and coil shocks, I
hate HATE leaf suspension) but we just moved into this house we built,
and there are some more things we want to do to it, and so we're trying
to save money. This is the BEST place to live if you own a jeep
though. I'll have to post some of my pics to the web, it's just
beautiful here, and the riding is great!

Thanks Again!!!!!
Mary

Re: New to Group!
 

Hi Mike,
Thank You for the information. That is so helpful! Um, they
determined the computer was bad by putting it on the computer at the
Jeep dealership. Here's what it would do. I would try cranking it up,
and it would crank fine, but the engine wouldn't turn over. Then I
noticed at some point, that the check engine light wouldn't come on,
wouldn't come on, and after about the 4th try, or 6th try, or whatever,
I'd see it flicker. I knew once I saw it flicker, that it would crank
up on the next try. So I was able to get it started for awhile. Then
I found that if I kept the auxillary on, I could get it started because
the computer didn't shut off. So I put it on a slow trickle charge to
keep the battery charged, but then after a day it wouldn't start again.
I was afraid I messed it up, and so then my husband just went ahead
and took it off. But we will check into what you told us also before
we spend the money.

We really don't mind spending the money much (although if I had my way,
I'd trade her in for a 6 cylinder w/ a little lift, and coil shocks, I
hate HATE leaf suspension) but we just moved into this house we built,
and there are some more things we want to do to it, and so we're trying
to save money. This is the BEST place to live if you own a jeep
though. I'll have to post some of my pics to the web, it's just
beautiful here, and the riding is great!

Thanks Again!!!!!
Mary

Re: New to Group!
 

Hi Mike,
Thank You for the information. That is so helpful! Um, they
determined the computer was bad by putting it on the computer at the
Jeep dealership. Here's what it would do. I would try cranking it up,
and it would crank fine, but the engine wouldn't turn over. Then I
noticed at some point, that the check engine light wouldn't come on,
wouldn't come on, and after about the 4th try, or 6th try, or whatever,
I'd see it flicker. I knew once I saw it flicker, that it would crank
up on the next try. So I was able to get it started for awhile. Then
I found that if I kept the auxillary on, I could get it started because
the computer didn't shut off. So I put it on a slow trickle charge to
keep the battery charged, but then after a day it wouldn't start again.
I was afraid I messed it up, and so then my husband just went ahead
and took it off. But we will check into what you told us also before
we spend the money.

We really don't mind spending the money much (although if I had my way,
I'd trade her in for a 6 cylinder w/ a little lift, and coil shocks, I
hate HATE leaf suspension) but we just moved into this house we built,
and there are some more things we want to do to it, and so we're trying
to save money. This is the BEST place to live if you own a jeep
though. I'll have to post some of my pics to the web, it's just
beautiful here, and the riding is great!

Thanks Again!!!!!
Mary

Re: New to Group!
 

Those symptoms could very well be a bad connection.

There is one other computer ground point. I am not sure on the 4, but
on the 6 near the dipstick is a bolt on the block. Off this bolt are
some small black wires. These might need a clean too. The last one you
might have is a small black wire on the emergency brake pedal frame down
under the dash. This would be the fuel pump ground.

Some emery paper or a wire brush is good for cleaning the ground
connections. They have to be unbolted though.

I sometimes take a booster cable and run that from the battery negative
to a metal spot or bolt on the firewall somewhere to bypass the grounds
as a test. I also put it on the engine block and the frame just to see
if the no start stops.

Mike

Mary wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> Thank You for the information. That is so helpful! Um, they
> determined the computer was bad by putting it on the computer at the
> Jeep dealership. Here's what it would do. I would try cranking it up,
> and it would crank fine, but the engine wouldn't turn over. Then I
> noticed at some point, that the check engine light wouldn't come on,
> wouldn't come on, and after about the 4th try, or 6th try, or whatever,
> I'd see it flicker. I knew once I saw it flicker, that it would crank
> up on the next try. So I was able to get it started for awhile. Then
> I found that if I kept the auxillary on, I could get it started because
> the computer didn't shut off. So I put it on a slow trickle charge to
> keep the battery charged, but then after a day it wouldn't start again.
> I was afraid I messed it up, and so then my husband just went ahead
> and took it off. But we will check into what you told us also before
> we spend the money.
>
> We really don't mind spending the money much (although if I had my way,
> I'd trade her in for a 6 cylinder w/ a little lift, and coil shocks, I
> hate HATE leaf suspension) but we just moved into this house we built,
> and there are some more things we want to do to it, and so we're trying
> to save money. This is the BEST place to live if you own a jeep
> though. I'll have to post some of my pics to the web, it's just
> beautiful here, and the riding is great!
>
> Thanks Again!!!!!
> Mary

Re: New to Group!
 

Those symptoms could very well be a bad connection.

There is one other computer ground point. I am not sure on the 4, but
on the 6 near the dipstick is a bolt on the block. Off this bolt are
some small black wires. These might need a clean too. The last one you
might have is a small black wire on the emergency brake pedal frame down
under the dash. This would be the fuel pump ground.

Some emery paper or a wire brush is good for cleaning the ground
connections. They have to be unbolted though.

I sometimes take a booster cable and run that from the battery negative
to a metal spot or bolt on the firewall somewhere to bypass the grounds
as a test. I also put it on the engine block and the frame just to see
if the no start stops.

Mike

Mary wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> Thank You for the information. That is so helpful! Um, they
> determined the computer was bad by putting it on the computer at the
> Jeep dealership. Here's what it would do. I would try cranking it up,
> and it would crank fine, but the engine wouldn't turn over. Then I
> noticed at some point, that the check engine light wouldn't come on,
> wouldn't come on, and after about the 4th try, or 6th try, or whatever,
> I'd see it flicker. I knew once I saw it flicker, that it would crank
> up on the next try. So I was able to get it started for awhile. Then
> I found that if I kept the auxillary on, I could get it started because
> the computer didn't shut off. So I put it on a slow trickle charge to
> keep the battery charged, but then after a day it wouldn't start again.
> I was afraid I messed it up, and so then my husband just went ahead
> and took it off. But we will check into what you told us also before
> we spend the money.
>
> We really don't mind spending the money much (although if I had my way,
> I'd trade her in for a 6 cylinder w/ a little lift, and coil shocks, I
> hate HATE leaf suspension) but we just moved into this house we built,
> and there are some more things we want to do to it, and so we're trying
> to save money. This is the BEST place to live if you own a jeep
> though. I'll have to post some of my pics to the web, it's just
> beautiful here, and the riding is great!
>
> Thanks Again!!!!!
> Mary

Re: New to Group!
 

Those symptoms could very well be a bad connection.

There is one other computer ground point. I am not sure on the 4, but
on the 6 near the dipstick is a bolt on the block. Off this bolt are
some small black wires. These might need a clean too. The last one you
might have is a small black wire on the emergency brake pedal frame down
under the dash. This would be the fuel pump ground.

Some emery paper or a wire brush is good for cleaning the ground
connections. They have to be unbolted though.

I sometimes take a booster cable and run that from the battery negative
to a metal spot or bolt on the firewall somewhere to bypass the grounds
as a test. I also put it on the engine block and the frame just to see
if the no start stops.

Mike

Mary wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> Thank You for the information. That is so helpful! Um, they
> determined the computer was bad by putting it on the computer at the
> Jeep dealership. Here's what it would do. I would try cranking it up,
> and it would crank fine, but the engine wouldn't turn over. Then I
> noticed at some point, that the check engine light wouldn't come on,
> wouldn't come on, and after about the 4th try, or 6th try, or whatever,
> I'd see it flicker. I knew once I saw it flicker, that it would crank
> up on the next try. So I was able to get it started for awhile. Then
> I found that if I kept the auxillary on, I could get it started because
> the computer didn't shut off. So I put it on a slow trickle charge to
> keep the battery charged, but then after a day it wouldn't start again.
> I was afraid I messed it up, and so then my husband just went ahead
> and took it off. But we will check into what you told us also before
> we spend the money.
>
> We really don't mind spending the money much (although if I had my way,
> I'd trade her in for a 6 cylinder w/ a little lift, and coil shocks, I
> hate HATE leaf suspension) but we just moved into this house we built,
> and there are some more things we want to do to it, and so we're trying
> to save money. This is the BEST place to live if you own a jeep
> though. I'll have to post some of my pics to the web, it's just
> beautiful here, and the riding is great!
>
> Thanks Again!!!!!
> Mary

Re: New to Group!
 

The best thing to clean contacts is an "electrical contact cleaner"
available from any electronics store (Radio Shack, etc)

WD40 can be used in a pinch if the proper stuff isn't available.


"Mary" <Boxeralley@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1136478583.888967.6450@g47g2000cwa.googlegrou ps.com...
> Hi Mike,
> Thank You for the information. That is so helpful! Um, they
> determined the computer was bad by putting it on the computer at the
> Jeep dealership. Here's what it would do. I would try cranking it up,
> and it would crank fine, but the engine wouldn't turn over. Then I
> noticed at some point, that the check engine light wouldn't come on,
> wouldn't come on, and after about the 4th try, or 6th try, or whatever,
> I'd see it flicker. I knew once I saw it flicker, that it would crank
> up on the next try. So I was able to get it started for awhile. Then
> I found that if I kept the auxillary on, I could get it started because
> the computer didn't shut off. So I put it on a slow trickle charge to
> keep the battery charged, but then after a day it wouldn't start again.
> I was afraid I messed it up, and so then my husband just went ahead
> and took it off. But we will check into what you told us also before
> we spend the money.
>
> We really don't mind spending the money much (although if I had my way,
> I'd trade her in for a 6 cylinder w/ a little lift, and coil shocks, I
> hate HATE leaf suspension) but we just moved into this house we built,
> and there are some more things we want to do to it, and so we're trying
> to save money. This is the BEST place to live if you own a jeep
> though. I'll have to post some of my pics to the web, it's just
> beautiful here, and the riding is great!
>
> Thanks Again!!!!!
> Mary
>

Re: New to Group!
 

The best thing to clean contacts is an "electrical contact cleaner"
available from any electronics store (Radio Shack, etc)

WD40 can be used in a pinch if the proper stuff isn't available.


"Mary" <Boxeralley@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1136478583.888967.6450@g47g2000cwa.googlegrou ps.com...
> Hi Mike,
> Thank You for the information. That is so helpful! Um, they
> determined the computer was bad by putting it on the computer at the
> Jeep dealership. Here's what it would do. I would try cranking it up,
> and it would crank fine, but the engine wouldn't turn over. Then I
> noticed at some point, that the check engine light wouldn't come on,
> wouldn't come on, and after about the 4th try, or 6th try, or whatever,
> I'd see it flicker. I knew once I saw it flicker, that it would crank
> up on the next try. So I was able to get it started for awhile. Then
> I found that if I kept the auxillary on, I could get it started because
> the computer didn't shut off. So I put it on a slow trickle charge to
> keep the battery charged, but then after a day it wouldn't start again.
> I was afraid I messed it up, and so then my husband just went ahead
> and took it off. But we will check into what you told us also before
> we spend the money.
>
> We really don't mind spending the money much (although if I had my way,
> I'd trade her in for a 6 cylinder w/ a little lift, and coil shocks, I
> hate HATE leaf suspension) but we just moved into this house we built,
> and there are some more things we want to do to it, and so we're trying
> to save money. This is the BEST place to live if you own a jeep
> though. I'll have to post some of my pics to the web, it's just
> beautiful here, and the riding is great!
>
> Thanks Again!!!!!
> Mary
>

Re: New to Group!
 

The best thing to clean contacts is an "electrical contact cleaner"
available from any electronics store (Radio Shack, etc)

WD40 can be used in a pinch if the proper stuff isn't available.


"Mary" <Boxeralley@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1136478583.888967.6450@g47g2000cwa.googlegrou ps.com...
> Hi Mike,
> Thank You for the information. That is so helpful! Um, they
> determined the computer was bad by putting it on the computer at the
> Jeep dealership. Here's what it would do. I would try cranking it up,
> and it would crank fine, but the engine wouldn't turn over. Then I
> noticed at some point, that the check engine light wouldn't come on,
> wouldn't come on, and after about the 4th try, or 6th try, or whatever,
> I'd see it flicker. I knew once I saw it flicker, that it would crank
> up on the next try. So I was able to get it started for awhile. Then
> I found that if I kept the auxillary on, I could get it started because
> the computer didn't shut off. So I put it on a slow trickle charge to
> keep the battery charged, but then after a day it wouldn't start again.
> I was afraid I messed it up, and so then my husband just went ahead
> and took it off. But we will check into what you told us also before
> we spend the money.
>
> We really don't mind spending the money much (although if I had my way,
> I'd trade her in for a 6 cylinder w/ a little lift, and coil shocks, I
> hate HATE leaf suspension) but we just moved into this house we built,
> and there are some more things we want to do to it, and so we're trying
> to save money. This is the BEST place to live if you own a jeep
> though. I'll have to post some of my pics to the web, it's just
> beautiful here, and the riding is great!
>
> Thanks Again!!!!!
> Mary
>

Re: New to Group!
 

welcome aboard!


"Mary" <Boxeralley@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1136476357.323971.298260@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi all,
> I'm new to this group, and I have been reading. Wasn't sure what
> the protocol was as far as introducing myself. So I'll just do it how
> I think I should.
> My name is Mary and I have a 94, 4 cyclinder, automatic Jeep that I
> adore. It is black. I live in the mountains of WV (near Gore if
> anyone is familiar w/ the Jeep tracks there) and I count on my jeep
> during the rough weather months.
> Well, my computer took a crap on me recently and so I took it to
> the Jeep dealership and they want $550 to put a new one in. But they
> had to order it, so like an idiot, I brought my Jeep back home to the
> mountain and now it won't start at all. :( So a dealer told my
> husband (he works in the auto industry for Get Auto/Auto Trader) that
> he could pull the computer off himself, get the numbers off of it, and
> just buy one and put the new one on. So we took it off this past
> weekend, got the numbers and Mike went on a search for a new one.
> Well, the only one he was able to find was out of Texas, from some
> dude's personal vehicle and he wants $175 for it. There is no
> guarantee that it would work once we got it (why would you sell the
> computer off your personal vehicle?) so we have decided to keep
> looking.
> I would appreciate any and all advice any of you could give me on
> finding a computer for this. Or maybe good websites or what have you.
> I really need to get her running before another snow. My other car is
> a Crown Vic police car and she's a beast. I do have chains which allow
> me to get out if I have to, but there will be no playing on the
> mountain in the snow in that car. We ride 4 wheelers too, but there's
> just something about the Jeep, you know, HEAT, music, etc, not to
> mention she'll go anywhere the 4 wheeler will go, that makes it fun
> during a snow.
>
> Thank You in advance, and I hope I'm not remiss in how I jumped into
> the fray. I just need to figure out how to fix her!
> Mary in Hampshire Co, WV
>