Re: New 2005 GC
 

Look at the market it was aiming for, the Ford Pinto, and the Chevy
Vega. Tell me you wouldn't want a ride in a four hundred horse power
Javelin.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

RJ wrote:
>
> It's just not possible to use greatness and AMC in the same sentence.
>
> I remember the Gremlin. Rented one once because they had run out of all
> other vehicles. Small and uncomfortable, but heavy and slow. The
> crappiest looking seats I ever saw in a car; they were hard with thin
> padding, too. Pushing down the pedal to shift into passing gear caused
> the engine to roar loudly, but no actual acceleration occurred.
>
> My great-uncle owned a 60s Rambler. Once when he was visiting us, he
> was trying to get the carburetor adjusted right. I saw when he was
> working on it that the carb body was PLASTIC. I don't think that was
> the wave of the future in carburetor technology, because I never saw one
> since.
>
> Another person I knew owned a top-of-the line Rambler, mid-60s vintage.
> It was a two door car, and when you folded the seat forward to get into
> the back seat, it left a big metal trim piece (a chrome thing that
> covered the hinge) sticking out into the opening that was perfect for
> barking your shins on.
>
> Those are the design and engineering achievements I think of when I
> hear AMC.

Re: New 2005 GC
 

Look at the market it was aiming for, the Ford Pinto, and the Chevy
Vega. Tell me you wouldn't want a ride in a four hundred horse power
Javelin.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

RJ wrote:
>
> It's just not possible to use greatness and AMC in the same sentence.
>
> I remember the Gremlin. Rented one once because they had run out of all
> other vehicles. Small and uncomfortable, but heavy and slow. The
> crappiest looking seats I ever saw in a car; they were hard with thin
> padding, too. Pushing down the pedal to shift into passing gear caused
> the engine to roar loudly, but no actual acceleration occurred.
>
> My great-uncle owned a 60s Rambler. Once when he was visiting us, he
> was trying to get the carburetor adjusted right. I saw when he was
> working on it that the carb body was PLASTIC. I don't think that was
> the wave of the future in carburetor technology, because I never saw one
> since.
>
> Another person I knew owned a top-of-the line Rambler, mid-60s vintage.
> It was a two door car, and when you folded the seat forward to get into
> the back seat, it left a big metal trim piece (a chrome thing that
> covered the hinge) sticking out into the opening that was perfect for
> barking your shins on.
>
> Those are the design and engineering achievements I think of when I
> hear AMC.

Re: New 2005 GC
 

There weren't street versions of the Javelin or AMX with that kind of
horsepower, net or gross unless your name was something like Mark
Donohue.
More representative of AMC after the early 50's were the Matador and
Pacer, with odd moments of performance such as the Hurst SC/Rambler.

Little of the heritage of the Hudson Hornet, Terraplane Super, Nash
Ambassador twin-plug Straight 8, Essex, Nash-Healy etc. type thinking
remained.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:

> Look at the market it was aiming for, the Ford Pinto, and the Chevy
> Vega. Tell me you wouldn't want a ride in a four hundred horse power
> Javelin.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> RJ wrote:
>
>>It's just not possible to use greatness and AMC in the same sentence.
>>
>>I remember the Gremlin. Rented one once because they had run out of all
>>other vehicles. Small and uncomfortable, but heavy and slow. The
>>crappiest looking seats I ever saw in a car; they were hard with thin
>>padding, too. Pushing down the pedal to shift into passing gear caused
>>the engine to roar loudly, but no actual acceleration occurred.
>>
>>My great-uncle owned a 60s Rambler. Once when he was visiting us, he
>>was trying to get the carburetor adjusted right. I saw when he was
>>working on it that the carb body was PLASTIC. I don't think that was
>>the wave of the future in carburetor technology, because I never saw one
>>since.
>>
>>Another person I knew owned a top-of-the line Rambler, mid-60s vintage.
>>It was a two door car, and when you folded the seat forward to get into
>>the back seat, it left a big metal trim piece (a chrome thing that
>>covered the hinge) sticking out into the opening that was perfect for
>>barking your shins on.
>>
>>Those are the design and engineering achievements I think of when I
>>hear AMC.

Re: New 2005 GC
 

There weren't street versions of the Javelin or AMX with that kind of
horsepower, net or gross unless your name was something like Mark
Donohue.
More representative of AMC after the early 50's were the Matador and
Pacer, with odd moments of performance such as the Hurst SC/Rambler.

Little of the heritage of the Hudson Hornet, Terraplane Super, Nash
Ambassador twin-plug Straight 8, Essex, Nash-Healy etc. type thinking
remained.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:

> Look at the market it was aiming for, the Ford Pinto, and the Chevy
> Vega. Tell me you wouldn't want a ride in a four hundred horse power
> Javelin.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> RJ wrote:
>
>>It's just not possible to use greatness and AMC in the same sentence.
>>
>>I remember the Gremlin. Rented one once because they had run out of all
>>other vehicles. Small and uncomfortable, but heavy and slow. The
>>crappiest looking seats I ever saw in a car; they were hard with thin
>>padding, too. Pushing down the pedal to shift into passing gear caused
>>the engine to roar loudly, but no actual acceleration occurred.
>>
>>My great-uncle owned a 60s Rambler. Once when he was visiting us, he
>>was trying to get the carburetor adjusted right. I saw when he was
>>working on it that the carb body was PLASTIC. I don't think that was
>>the wave of the future in carburetor technology, because I never saw one
>>since.
>>
>>Another person I knew owned a top-of-the line Rambler, mid-60s vintage.
>>It was a two door car, and when you folded the seat forward to get into
>>the back seat, it left a big metal trim piece (a chrome thing that
>>covered the hinge) sticking out into the opening that was perfect for
>>barking your shins on.
>>
>>Those are the design and engineering achievements I think of when I
>>hear AMC.

Re: New 2005 GC
 

There weren't street versions of the Javelin or AMX with that kind of
horsepower, net or gross unless your name was something like Mark
Donohue.
More representative of AMC after the early 50's were the Matador and
Pacer, with odd moments of performance such as the Hurst SC/Rambler.

Little of the heritage of the Hudson Hornet, Terraplane Super, Nash
Ambassador twin-plug Straight 8, Essex, Nash-Healy etc. type thinking
remained.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:

> Look at the market it was aiming for, the Ford Pinto, and the Chevy
> Vega. Tell me you wouldn't want a ride in a four hundred horse power
> Javelin.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> RJ wrote:
>
>>It's just not possible to use greatness and AMC in the same sentence.
>>
>>I remember the Gremlin. Rented one once because they had run out of all
>>other vehicles. Small and uncomfortable, but heavy and slow. The
>>crappiest looking seats I ever saw in a car; they were hard with thin
>>padding, too. Pushing down the pedal to shift into passing gear caused
>>the engine to roar loudly, but no actual acceleration occurred.
>>
>>My great-uncle owned a 60s Rambler. Once when he was visiting us, he
>>was trying to get the carburetor adjusted right. I saw when he was
>>working on it that the carb body was PLASTIC. I don't think that was
>>the wave of the future in carburetor technology, because I never saw one
>>since.
>>
>>Another person I knew owned a top-of-the line Rambler, mid-60s vintage.
>>It was a two door car, and when you folded the seat forward to get into
>>the back seat, it left a big metal trim piece (a chrome thing that
>>covered the hinge) sticking out into the opening that was perfect for
>>barking your shins on.
>>
>>Those are the design and engineering achievements I think of when I
>>hear AMC.

Re: New 2005 GC
 

AMC was right there with the rest of the 427 Ford, Chevys and 426
Dodges, pre '64. Horse power and cubes slowed for insurance reasons for
these AMC specs for '66: http://www.----------.com/amchpchart.jpg And
the big three pulled their sponsorship, and no long believed in race on
Sunday, sell on Monday. I actually pitted for a '64 Rambler in that
year's Winter Nationals.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Lon wrote:
>
> There weren't street versions of the Javelin or AMX with that kind of
> horsepower, net or gross unless your name was something like Mark
> Donohue.
> More representative of AMC after the early 50's were the Matador and
> Pacer, with odd moments of performance such as the Hurst SC/Rambler.
>
> Little of the heritage of the Hudson Hornet, Terraplane Super, Nash
> Ambassador twin-plug Straight 8, Essex, Nash-Healy etc. type thinking
> remained.

Re: New 2005 GC
 

AMC was right there with the rest of the 427 Ford, Chevys and 426
Dodges, pre '64. Horse power and cubes slowed for insurance reasons for
these AMC specs for '66: http://www.----------.com/amchpchart.jpg And
the big three pulled their sponsorship, and no long believed in race on
Sunday, sell on Monday. I actually pitted for a '64 Rambler in that
year's Winter Nationals.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Lon wrote:
>
> There weren't street versions of the Javelin or AMX with that kind of
> horsepower, net or gross unless your name was something like Mark
> Donohue.
> More representative of AMC after the early 50's were the Matador and
> Pacer, with odd moments of performance such as the Hurst SC/Rambler.
>
> Little of the heritage of the Hudson Hornet, Terraplane Super, Nash
> Ambassador twin-plug Straight 8, Essex, Nash-Healy etc. type thinking
> remained.

Re: New 2005 GC
 

AMC was right there with the rest of the 427 Ford, Chevys and 426
Dodges, pre '64. Horse power and cubes slowed for insurance reasons for
these AMC specs for '66: http://www.----------.com/amchpchart.jpg And
the big three pulled their sponsorship, and no long believed in race on
Sunday, sell on Monday. I actually pitted for a '64 Rambler in that
year's Winter Nationals.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Lon wrote:
>
> There weren't street versions of the Javelin or AMX with that kind of
> horsepower, net or gross unless your name was something like Mark
> Donohue.
> More representative of AMC after the early 50's were the Matador and
> Pacer, with odd moments of performance such as the Hurst SC/Rambler.
>
> Little of the heritage of the Hudson Hornet, Terraplane Super, Nash
> Ambassador twin-plug Straight 8, Essex, Nash-Healy etc. type thinking
> remained.

Re: New 2005 GC
 

L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Look at the market it was aiming for, the Ford Pinto, and the Chevy
> Vega.

And the Gremlin was at the BOTTOM of that particular dungpile.

> Tell me you wouldn't want a ride in a four hundred horse power
> Javelin.

With AMC brakes and suspension, it would be much more exciting than
necessary.

Re: New 2005 GC
 

L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Look at the market it was aiming for, the Ford Pinto, and the Chevy
> Vega.

And the Gremlin was at the BOTTOM of that particular dungpile.

> Tell me you wouldn't want a ride in a four hundred horse power
> Javelin.

With AMC brakes and suspension, it would be much more exciting than
necessary.