Neutral switch problem
 

I deleted the thread before I had a chance to reply.

Another solution to this $300 problem would be to remove and bypass the
damn thing. As long as the PCM doesn't set a code when you do this, I
would trash the darned thing altogether. (Unplug, bridge with a jumper
wire and start to see if this will happen - doubtful, but it's possible.)

I see this as just another safety device that needs to be pulled out by
the wires, just like that silly clutch interlock switch on my TJ.

Re: Neutral switch problem
 

It has a gotcha on it, the reverse light switch.

I guess the starter interlock wires can be bypassed, but be aware it
will start in gear.

Umm, you do know that 'you' can't delete anything from usenet. You can
make your computer not see it, but it is still there.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Outatime wrote:
>
> I deleted the thread before I had a chance to reply.
>
> Another solution to this $300 problem would be to remove and bypass the
> damn thing. As long as the PCM doesn't set a code when you do this, I
> would trash the darned thing altogether. (Unplug, bridge with a jumper
> wire and start to see if this will happen - doubtful, but it's possible.)
>
> I see this as just another safety device that needs to be pulled out by
> the wires, just like that silly clutch interlock switch on my TJ.

Re: Neutral switch problem
 

It has a gotcha on it, the reverse light switch.

I guess the starter interlock wires can be bypassed, but be aware it
will start in gear.

Umm, you do know that 'you' can't delete anything from usenet. You can
make your computer not see it, but it is still there.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Outatime wrote:
>
> I deleted the thread before I had a chance to reply.
>
> Another solution to this $300 problem would be to remove and bypass the
> damn thing. As long as the PCM doesn't set a code when you do this, I
> would trash the darned thing altogether. (Unplug, bridge with a jumper
> wire and start to see if this will happen - doubtful, but it's possible.)
>
> I see this as just another safety device that needs to be pulled out by
> the wires, just like that silly clutch interlock switch on my TJ.

Re: Neutral switch problem
 

It has a gotcha on it, the reverse light switch.

I guess the starter interlock wires can be bypassed, but be aware it
will start in gear.

Umm, you do know that 'you' can't delete anything from usenet. You can
make your computer not see it, but it is still there.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Outatime wrote:
>
> I deleted the thread before I had a chance to reply.
>
> Another solution to this $300 problem would be to remove and bypass the
> damn thing. As long as the PCM doesn't set a code when you do this, I
> would trash the darned thing altogether. (Unplug, bridge with a jumper
> wire and start to see if this will happen - doubtful, but it's possible.)
>
> I see this as just another safety device that needs to be pulled out by
> the wires, just like that silly clutch interlock switch on my TJ.

Re: Neutral switch problem
 

"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:momdnYdaYJWgvNfYnZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
>I deleted the thread before I had a chance to reply.
>
> Another solution to this $300 problem would be to remove and bypass the
> damn thing. As long as the PCM doesn't set a code when you do this, I
> would trash the darned thing altogether. (Unplug, bridge with a jumper
> wire and start to see if this will happen - doubtful, but it's possible.)
>
> I see this as just another safety device that needs to be pulled out by
> the wires, just like that silly clutch interlock switch on my TJ.

If you are keeping the car forever, okay. But if you sell the car, and do
not replace the switch, you might well be held liable for any damages caused
by the absence of the safety device.

Re: Neutral switch problem
 

"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:momdnYdaYJWgvNfYnZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
>I deleted the thread before I had a chance to reply.
>
> Another solution to this $300 problem would be to remove and bypass the
> damn thing. As long as the PCM doesn't set a code when you do this, I
> would trash the darned thing altogether. (Unplug, bridge with a jumper
> wire and start to see if this will happen - doubtful, but it's possible.)
>
> I see this as just another safety device that needs to be pulled out by
> the wires, just like that silly clutch interlock switch on my TJ.

If you are keeping the car forever, okay. But if you sell the car, and do
not replace the switch, you might well be held liable for any damages caused
by the absence of the safety device.

Re: Neutral switch problem
 

"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:momdnYdaYJWgvNfYnZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
>I deleted the thread before I had a chance to reply.
>
> Another solution to this $300 problem would be to remove and bypass the
> damn thing. As long as the PCM doesn't set a code when you do this, I
> would trash the darned thing altogether. (Unplug, bridge with a jumper
> wire and start to see if this will happen - doubtful, but it's possible.)
>
> I see this as just another safety device that needs to be pulled out by
> the wires, just like that silly clutch interlock switch on my TJ.

If you are keeping the car forever, okay. But if you sell the car, and do
not replace the switch, you might well be held liable for any damages caused
by the absence of the safety device.

Re: Neutral switch problem
 

Mike Romain wrote:

> Umm, you do know that 'you' can't delete anything from usenet. You can
> make your computer not see it, but it is still there.

Oh yeah, only deleted it locally.

It's funny how everyone now relies so heavily on 'safety devices.' The
neighbor's PT Cruiser won't allow a shift from park to another gear
unless the footbrake is depressed. I also hear that electronic
stabiilty control will be mandated on cars sold in the US within 10
years, which means even higher costs, mandatory ABS, fly-by-wire
throttle controls, traction controls, and much more complexity than I
could ever want in a vehicle.

And it seems that the more idiotproof cars become, nature always manages
to come up with better idiots.

Re: Neutral switch problem
 

Mike Romain wrote:

> Umm, you do know that 'you' can't delete anything from usenet. You can
> make your computer not see it, but it is still there.

Oh yeah, only deleted it locally.

It's funny how everyone now relies so heavily on 'safety devices.' The
neighbor's PT Cruiser won't allow a shift from park to another gear
unless the footbrake is depressed. I also hear that electronic
stabiilty control will be mandated on cars sold in the US within 10
years, which means even higher costs, mandatory ABS, fly-by-wire
throttle controls, traction controls, and much more complexity than I
could ever want in a vehicle.

And it seems that the more idiotproof cars become, nature always manages
to come up with better idiots.

Re: Neutral switch problem
 

Mike Romain wrote:

> Umm, you do know that 'you' can't delete anything from usenet. You can
> make your computer not see it, but it is still there.

Oh yeah, only deleted it locally.

It's funny how everyone now relies so heavily on 'safety devices.' The
neighbor's PT Cruiser won't allow a shift from park to another gear
unless the footbrake is depressed. I also hear that electronic
stabiilty control will be mandated on cars sold in the US within 10
years, which means even higher costs, mandatory ABS, fly-by-wire
throttle controls, traction controls, and much more complexity than I
could ever want in a vehicle.

And it seems that the more idiotproof cars become, nature always manages
to come up with better idiots.