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Wranglerjeep1 10-05-2003 12:38 AM

Need some carb help
 
Does anybody know what carb #'s they used in 88 for the 2b Carter. I lost the
sticker that had my model number and these goofball parts store guys are
killing me. I went to 3 different stores and none of the kits had metering
rods!!!!!! The last kit I bought included everything....and now all of a sudden
they don't. If I had the # they might be able to cross reference and find
another kit that would work. FYI there is a number on the side of my carb and
nobody knows what it is...2373. Eh who knows. Hell I even went back to the
store where I bought my first carb kit and they hand me the same POS kit. All 3
stores had the same thing.....gaskets, accelerator pump and a cardboard ruler
UGH. None of them had metering rods...float bowls or those ever handy extra
clips for the linkages.

This all started last week when my carb started acting up. I would be driving (
any speed any gear any time) and suddenly it would cut out but never die. I
would just kick in the clutch.....pump the gas a few times and it would clear
up. Well today I took the carb apart and found a bent metering rod. After
noooooo success finding a kit that included these....I tried to bend it back
and used a file to deburr the end. I put it back on and now it won't idle for
crap....looked down the carb and its dripping fuel like crazy. Guess I just
made the problem worse.

Brian
88 YJ

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-05-2003 02:12 AM

Re: Need some carb help
 
Hi Brian,
You won't find parts like the metering rod or their jets in any
kit. They're made of brass, it should be easy to roll it with your
finger on a board and straighten them. the only reason the Carter BBD
would be dripping down the venturi is the float level is adjusted too
high or the needle valve is leaking.
http://www.carburetorfactory.com/expvw03.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Wranglerjeep1 wrote:
>
> Does anybody know what carb #'s they used in 88 for the 2b Carter. I lost the
> sticker that had my model number and these goofball parts store guys are
> killing me. I went to 3 different stores and none of the kits had metering
> rods!!!!!! The last kit I bought included everything....and now all of a sudden
> they don't. If I had the # they might be able to cross reference and find
> another kit that would work. FYI there is a number on the side of my carb and
> nobody knows what it is...2373. Eh who knows. Hell I even went back to the
> store where I bought my first carb kit and they hand me the same POS kit. All 3
> stores had the same thing.....gaskets, accelerator pump and a cardboard ruler
> UGH. None of them had metering rods...float bowls or those ever handy extra
> clips for the linkages.
>
> This all started last week when my carb started acting up. I would be driving (
> any speed any gear any time) and suddenly it would cut out but never die. I
> would just kick in the clutch.....pump the gas a few times and it would clear
> up. Well today I took the carb apart and found a bent metering rod. After
> noooooo success finding a kit that included these....I tried to bend it back
> and used a file to deburr the end. I put it back on and now it won't idle for
> crap....looked down the carb and its dripping fuel like crazy. Guess I just
> made the problem worse.
>
> Brian
> 88 YJ


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-05-2003 02:12 AM

Re: Need some carb help
 
Hi Brian,
You won't find parts like the metering rod or their jets in any
kit. They're made of brass, it should be easy to roll it with your
finger on a board and straighten them. the only reason the Carter BBD
would be dripping down the venturi is the float level is adjusted too
high or the needle valve is leaking.
http://www.carburetorfactory.com/expvw03.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Wranglerjeep1 wrote:
>
> Does anybody know what carb #'s they used in 88 for the 2b Carter. I lost the
> sticker that had my model number and these goofball parts store guys are
> killing me. I went to 3 different stores and none of the kits had metering
> rods!!!!!! The last kit I bought included everything....and now all of a sudden
> they don't. If I had the # they might be able to cross reference and find
> another kit that would work. FYI there is a number on the side of my carb and
> nobody knows what it is...2373. Eh who knows. Hell I even went back to the
> store where I bought my first carb kit and they hand me the same POS kit. All 3
> stores had the same thing.....gaskets, accelerator pump and a cardboard ruler
> UGH. None of them had metering rods...float bowls or those ever handy extra
> clips for the linkages.
>
> This all started last week when my carb started acting up. I would be driving (
> any speed any gear any time) and suddenly it would cut out but never die. I
> would just kick in the clutch.....pump the gas a few times and it would clear
> up. Well today I took the carb apart and found a bent metering rod. After
> noooooo success finding a kit that included these....I tried to bend it back
> and used a file to deburr the end. I put it back on and now it won't idle for
> crap....looked down the carb and its dripping fuel like crazy. Guess I just
> made the problem worse.
>
> Brian
> 88 YJ


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-05-2003 02:12 AM

Re: Need some carb help
 
Hi Brian,
You won't find parts like the metering rod or their jets in any
kit. They're made of brass, it should be easy to roll it with your
finger on a board and straighten them. the only reason the Carter BBD
would be dripping down the venturi is the float level is adjusted too
high or the needle valve is leaking.
http://www.carburetorfactory.com/expvw03.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Wranglerjeep1 wrote:
>
> Does anybody know what carb #'s they used in 88 for the 2b Carter. I lost the
> sticker that had my model number and these goofball parts store guys are
> killing me. I went to 3 different stores and none of the kits had metering
> rods!!!!!! The last kit I bought included everything....and now all of a sudden
> they don't. If I had the # they might be able to cross reference and find
> another kit that would work. FYI there is a number on the side of my carb and
> nobody knows what it is...2373. Eh who knows. Hell I even went back to the
> store where I bought my first carb kit and they hand me the same POS kit. All 3
> stores had the same thing.....gaskets, accelerator pump and a cardboard ruler
> UGH. None of them had metering rods...float bowls or those ever handy extra
> clips for the linkages.
>
> This all started last week when my carb started acting up. I would be driving (
> any speed any gear any time) and suddenly it would cut out but never die. I
> would just kick in the clutch.....pump the gas a few times and it would clear
> up. Well today I took the carb apart and found a bent metering rod. After
> noooooo success finding a kit that included these....I tried to bend it back
> and used a file to deburr the end. I put it back on and now it won't idle for
> crap....looked down the carb and its dripping fuel like crazy. Guess I just
> made the problem worse.
>
> Brian
> 88 YJ


Wranglerjeep1 10-05-2003 03:06 AM

Re: Need some carb help
 
Humm....I could have sworn the last kit I bough had the needles. Might be the
needle valve. I didn't touch the floats. I don't know what I did really. I just
bent the needle back and it looked ok. All I know is there's a ton of fuel
dripping down the venturi and it won't idle. LoL sounds kinda like it has a
huge cam....and yes I did check for vac leaks and couldn't see or hear any.

Brian
88 YJ

Brian

Wranglerjeep1 10-05-2003 03:06 AM

Re: Need some carb help
 
Humm....I could have sworn the last kit I bough had the needles. Might be the
needle valve. I didn't touch the floats. I don't know what I did really. I just
bent the needle back and it looked ok. All I know is there's a ton of fuel
dripping down the venturi and it won't idle. LoL sounds kinda like it has a
huge cam....and yes I did check for vac leaks and couldn't see or hear any.

Brian
88 YJ

Brian

Wranglerjeep1 10-05-2003 03:06 AM

Re: Need some carb help
 
Humm....I could have sworn the last kit I bough had the needles. Might be the
needle valve. I didn't touch the floats. I don't know what I did really. I just
bent the needle back and it looked ok. All I know is there's a ton of fuel
dripping down the venturi and it won't idle. LoL sounds kinda like it has a
huge cam....and yes I did check for vac leaks and couldn't see or hear any.

Brian
88 YJ

Brian

Mike Romain 10-05-2003 12:06 PM

Re: Need some carb help
 
Your first post doesn't show up in my newsreader...

You are either describing a dead needle and seat for the float or
totally plugged up idle tubes.

I have never seen a kit that came with the metering rods.... Just the
float needle and seat.

If the idle tubes are blocked, they need a physical ream to clear them,
chemicals just won't do it.

http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html

There also is one sneaky vacuum leak that can happen. The canister
purge valve if blown will make a vacuum leak you can't hear. To check
it, at idle trace the PCV line to the back of the carb. There you will
find a T fitting or a solenoid thing. Trace the other line from here to
the top of the canister. At idle pinch this line closed. The idle
shouldn't change, if it does, the canister is toast.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Wranglerjeep1 wrote:
>
> Humm....I could have sworn the last kit I bough had the needles. Might be the
> needle valve. I didn't touch the floats. I don't know what I did really. I just
> bent the needle back and it looked ok. All I know is there's a ton of fuel
> dripping down the venturi and it won't idle. LoL sounds kinda like it has a
> huge cam....and yes I did check for vac leaks and couldn't see or hear any.
>
> Brian
> 88 YJ
>
> Brian


Mike Romain 10-05-2003 12:06 PM

Re: Need some carb help
 
Your first post doesn't show up in my newsreader...

You are either describing a dead needle and seat for the float or
totally plugged up idle tubes.

I have never seen a kit that came with the metering rods.... Just the
float needle and seat.

If the idle tubes are blocked, they need a physical ream to clear them,
chemicals just won't do it.

http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html

There also is one sneaky vacuum leak that can happen. The canister
purge valve if blown will make a vacuum leak you can't hear. To check
it, at idle trace the PCV line to the back of the carb. There you will
find a T fitting or a solenoid thing. Trace the other line from here to
the top of the canister. At idle pinch this line closed. The idle
shouldn't change, if it does, the canister is toast.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Wranglerjeep1 wrote:
>
> Humm....I could have sworn the last kit I bough had the needles. Might be the
> needle valve. I didn't touch the floats. I don't know what I did really. I just
> bent the needle back and it looked ok. All I know is there's a ton of fuel
> dripping down the venturi and it won't idle. LoL sounds kinda like it has a
> huge cam....and yes I did check for vac leaks and couldn't see or hear any.
>
> Brian
> 88 YJ
>
> Brian


Mike Romain 10-05-2003 12:06 PM

Re: Need some carb help
 
Your first post doesn't show up in my newsreader...

You are either describing a dead needle and seat for the float or
totally plugged up idle tubes.

I have never seen a kit that came with the metering rods.... Just the
float needle and seat.

If the idle tubes are blocked, they need a physical ream to clear them,
chemicals just won't do it.

http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/carter.html

There also is one sneaky vacuum leak that can happen. The canister
purge valve if blown will make a vacuum leak you can't hear. To check
it, at idle trace the PCV line to the back of the carb. There you will
find a T fitting or a solenoid thing. Trace the other line from here to
the top of the canister. At idle pinch this line closed. The idle
shouldn't change, if it does, the canister is toast.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Wranglerjeep1 wrote:
>
> Humm....I could have sworn the last kit I bough had the needles. Might be the
> needle valve. I didn't touch the floats. I don't know what I did really. I just
> bent the needle back and it looked ok. All I know is there's a ton of fuel
> dripping down the venturi and it won't idle. LoL sounds kinda like it has a
> huge cam....and yes I did check for vac leaks and couldn't see or hear any.
>
> Brian
> 88 YJ
>
> Brian


Wranglerjeep1 10-05-2003 11:37 PM

Re: Need some carb help
 
I fixed it....don't know what I did different? I took it apart again and double
checked everything. Couldn't see anything wrong. Put the carb back on and it
fired right up and runs good. I donno? Yesterday was just one of them days.

Brian
88 YJ

Wranglerjeep1 10-05-2003 11:37 PM

Re: Need some carb help
 
I fixed it....don't know what I did different? I took it apart again and double
checked everything. Couldn't see anything wrong. Put the carb back on and it
fired right up and runs good. I donno? Yesterday was just one of them days.

Brian
88 YJ

Wranglerjeep1 10-05-2003 11:37 PM

Re: Need some carb help
 
I fixed it....don't know what I did different? I took it apart again and double
checked everything. Couldn't see anything wrong. Put the carb back on and it
fired right up and runs good. I donno? Yesterday was just one of them days.

Brian
88 YJ

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-05-2003 11:55 PM

Re: Need some carb help
 
Great!

Wranglerjeep1 wrote:
>
> I fixed it....don't know what I did different? I took it apart again and double
> checked everything. Couldn't see anything wrong. Put the carb back on and it
> fired right up and runs good. I donno? Yesterday was just one of them days.
>
> Brian
> 88 YJ


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-05-2003 11:55 PM

Re: Need some carb help
 
Great!

Wranglerjeep1 wrote:
>
> I fixed it....don't know what I did different? I took it apart again and double
> checked everything. Couldn't see anything wrong. Put the carb back on and it
> fired right up and runs good. I donno? Yesterday was just one of them days.
>
> Brian
> 88 YJ


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-05-2003 11:55 PM

Re: Need some carb help
 
Great!

Wranglerjeep1 wrote:
>
> I fixed it....don't know what I did different? I took it apart again and double
> checked everything. Couldn't see anything wrong. Put the carb back on and it
> fired right up and runs good. I donno? Yesterday was just one of them days.
>
> Brian
> 88 YJ



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