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Don Wallish 10-04-2003 02:51 PM

Need more CJ lift. SOA vs. taller springs?
 
Hey Everyone,
My '82 Scrambler needs more lift.. I put in a 727 A/T with a Dana 300 behind
it. Problem is, i don't have enough clearance under the tranny pan for a front
driveshaft. I have 2" springs and a 2" shackle lift / reversal kit running on
33's. I see two options to fix this: more lift or drill a new bolt pattern in
the t-case to clock it in a different position and fab a new shifter.
Lifting seems an easy solution since i only have 2" springs right now. I was
thinking of spring-over, but i've read conflicting rports. Some say that a SOA
and a shackle-reversal should not be used together:

http://www.jeeptech.com/susp/cjsoa.html

says not to use a SOA & reversal with flat springs. What about mild lift
springs like mine? Would SOA be too much lift with my combined 4" suspension?
Since i just spent $300 on the reversal kit i would prefer to keep that. I
have two friends who have done more SOA lifts than i could count, so they have
the job perfected.
The option of re-clocking the t-case is more involved because it would
require tweaking the shifter, moving exhaust (already very tight to the
passenger frame rail) or making a new crossmember.

Thanks!
Don W

'82 CJ8 Scrambler
AMC 360
T/F 727
Dana 300
One-piece model 20 rear
Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
2" shackle lift/reversal
2" lift springs of unknown origin
33" Mickey's

And it finally runs!!!!!

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-04-2003 03:31 PM

Re: Need more CJ lift. SOA vs. taller springs?
 
Hi Don,
Sounds like you have it wired. When your finished, measure what you
can get away with, and add another bump stop between the axle and rear
spring hanger to stop axle wrap on deceleration.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Don Wallish wrote:
>
> Hey Everyone,
> My '82 Scrambler needs more lift.. I put in a 727 A/T with a Dana 300 behind
> it. Problem is, i don't have enough clearance under the tranny pan for a front
> driveshaft. I have 2" springs and a 2" shackle lift / reversal kit running on
> 33's. I see two options to fix this: more lift or drill a new bolt pattern in
> the t-case to clock it in a different position and fab a new shifter.
> Lifting seems an easy solution since i only have 2" springs right now. I was
> thinking of spring-over, but i've read conflicting rports. Some say that a SOA
> and a shackle-reversal should not be used together:
>
> http://www.jeeptech.com/susp/cjsoa.html
>
> says not to use a SOA & reversal with flat springs. What about mild lift
> springs like mine? Would SOA be too much lift with my combined 4" suspension?
> Since i just spent $300 on the reversal kit i would prefer to keep that. I
> have two friends who have done more SOA lifts than i could count, so they have
> the job perfected.
> The option of re-clocking the t-case is more involved because it would
> require tweaking the shifter, moving exhaust (already very tight to the
> passenger frame rail) or making a new crossmember.
>
> Thanks!
> Don W
>
> '82 CJ8 Scrambler
> AMC 360
> T/F 727
> Dana 300
> One-piece model 20 rear
> Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
> 2" shackle lift/reversal
> 2" lift springs of unknown origin
> 33" Mickey's
>
> And it finally runs!!!!!


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-04-2003 03:31 PM

Re: Need more CJ lift. SOA vs. taller springs?
 
Hi Don,
Sounds like you have it wired. When your finished, measure what you
can get away with, and add another bump stop between the axle and rear
spring hanger to stop axle wrap on deceleration.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Don Wallish wrote:
>
> Hey Everyone,
> My '82 Scrambler needs more lift.. I put in a 727 A/T with a Dana 300 behind
> it. Problem is, i don't have enough clearance under the tranny pan for a front
> driveshaft. I have 2" springs and a 2" shackle lift / reversal kit running on
> 33's. I see two options to fix this: more lift or drill a new bolt pattern in
> the t-case to clock it in a different position and fab a new shifter.
> Lifting seems an easy solution since i only have 2" springs right now. I was
> thinking of spring-over, but i've read conflicting rports. Some say that a SOA
> and a shackle-reversal should not be used together:
>
> http://www.jeeptech.com/susp/cjsoa.html
>
> says not to use a SOA & reversal with flat springs. What about mild lift
> springs like mine? Would SOA be too much lift with my combined 4" suspension?
> Since i just spent $300 on the reversal kit i would prefer to keep that. I
> have two friends who have done more SOA lifts than i could count, so they have
> the job perfected.
> The option of re-clocking the t-case is more involved because it would
> require tweaking the shifter, moving exhaust (already very tight to the
> passenger frame rail) or making a new crossmember.
>
> Thanks!
> Don W
>
> '82 CJ8 Scrambler
> AMC 360
> T/F 727
> Dana 300
> One-piece model 20 rear
> Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
> 2" shackle lift/reversal
> 2" lift springs of unknown origin
> 33" Mickey's
>
> And it finally runs!!!!!


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-04-2003 03:31 PM

Re: Need more CJ lift. SOA vs. taller springs?
 
Hi Don,
Sounds like you have it wired. When your finished, measure what you
can get away with, and add another bump stop between the axle and rear
spring hanger to stop axle wrap on deceleration.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Don Wallish wrote:
>
> Hey Everyone,
> My '82 Scrambler needs more lift.. I put in a 727 A/T with a Dana 300 behind
> it. Problem is, i don't have enough clearance under the tranny pan for a front
> driveshaft. I have 2" springs and a 2" shackle lift / reversal kit running on
> 33's. I see two options to fix this: more lift or drill a new bolt pattern in
> the t-case to clock it in a different position and fab a new shifter.
> Lifting seems an easy solution since i only have 2" springs right now. I was
> thinking of spring-over, but i've read conflicting rports. Some say that a SOA
> and a shackle-reversal should not be used together:
>
> http://www.jeeptech.com/susp/cjsoa.html
>
> says not to use a SOA & reversal with flat springs. What about mild lift
> springs like mine? Would SOA be too much lift with my combined 4" suspension?
> Since i just spent $300 on the reversal kit i would prefer to keep that. I
> have two friends who have done more SOA lifts than i could count, so they have
> the job perfected.
> The option of re-clocking the t-case is more involved because it would
> require tweaking the shifter, moving exhaust (already very tight to the
> passenger frame rail) or making a new crossmember.
>
> Thanks!
> Don W
>
> '82 CJ8 Scrambler
> AMC 360
> T/F 727
> Dana 300
> One-piece model 20 rear
> Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
> 2" shackle lift/reversal
> 2" lift springs of unknown origin
> 33" Mickey's
>
> And it finally runs!!!!!



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