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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-05-2005 03:11 PM

Re: need help for the pros for TJ front brakes that stick
 
Ditto, used to happen all the time to Chrysler products twenty
years, were yours still the plastic pistons?
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fdarcari@netscape.net wrote:
>
> I had a similar problem after I replaced the pads on my 99TJ. The
> piston in the caliper on the drivers side starting sticking. Replaced
> the caliper with a rebuilt one from Autozone, about $20 with exchange.
> A couple of weeks after that, the piston in the caliper on the
> passenger side started sticking. Replaced that caliper also. I have had
> no further problems and that was about 8 months ago. Anyway, I think it
> is very possible your problem could be the pistons sticking even though
> they are both sticking at the same time. I think installing new pads
> had something to do with it. Put the piston in a different operating
> range due to the thickness of the new pad. I didn't take the calipers
> apart, but there could have been a groove in the bore catching the
> piston.
> Hope this helps. Good luck,
> Frank


Patrick 01-05-2005 09:04 PM

Re: need help for the pros for TJ front brakes that stick
 
I had a Galiper seize after leaving school many year ago with my 86
Chevette,
Good thing it was winter as i end up in a bank snow.

Seize one side = Galiper ( can happen real quick )
both side... master cylinder or related.....


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> a écrit dans le message de news:
41DAEB3F.C7F37DF4@sympatico.ca...
> That is strange. If it was one side.....
>
> There is a combination valve that controls the front to rear wheel
> pressures and the Master Cylinder. Those are the only two places both
> wheels have in common.
>
> It is unusual for the combination valve to fail.
>
> I have seen masters fail so the front brakes won't release.
>
> I would test it by opening the line fitting for the fronts right at the
> master. If pressure squirts out and they release, the master has failed
> internally. (I just crack them, if under pressure it will come out fast
> first, then slow right down)
>
> If not, then I would open it somewhere after the combination valve on
> either side to look for the stored up pressure. If none there, then I
> would go to the wheel caliper and open it. If that is the only place to
> show built up line pressure, then that implies the rubber lines from the
> wheels to the frame have internally collapsed. It does happen.
>
> This only happens on one side at a time though usually unless someone
> put the wrong fluid into the brake reservoir. If it got the wrong
> fluid, both front hoses could have died.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> snowboardripper@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> I have a 2002 TJ with new pads in the front ( put on early summer). I
>> was driving to work this morning and the front brakes stayed on. I
>> could feel the resistance and noticed the smell, and the drag from the
>> front. Both front wheels were hot to touch. What causes both of them
>> to stay on? The jeep was in a garage overnight so they were not frozen.
>> I assume it must be the module that controls the braking, but if there
>> is anything I can check it would be a help.




Patrick 01-05-2005 09:04 PM

Re: need help for the pros for TJ front brakes that stick
 
I had a Galiper seize after leaving school many year ago with my 86
Chevette,
Good thing it was winter as i end up in a bank snow.

Seize one side = Galiper ( can happen real quick )
both side... master cylinder or related.....


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> a écrit dans le message de news:
41DAEB3F.C7F37DF4@sympatico.ca...
> That is strange. If it was one side.....
>
> There is a combination valve that controls the front to rear wheel
> pressures and the Master Cylinder. Those are the only two places both
> wheels have in common.
>
> It is unusual for the combination valve to fail.
>
> I have seen masters fail so the front brakes won't release.
>
> I would test it by opening the line fitting for the fronts right at the
> master. If pressure squirts out and they release, the master has failed
> internally. (I just crack them, if under pressure it will come out fast
> first, then slow right down)
>
> If not, then I would open it somewhere after the combination valve on
> either side to look for the stored up pressure. If none there, then I
> would go to the wheel caliper and open it. If that is the only place to
> show built up line pressure, then that implies the rubber lines from the
> wheels to the frame have internally collapsed. It does happen.
>
> This only happens on one side at a time though usually unless someone
> put the wrong fluid into the brake reservoir. If it got the wrong
> fluid, both front hoses could have died.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> snowboardripper@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> I have a 2002 TJ with new pads in the front ( put on early summer). I
>> was driving to work this morning and the front brakes stayed on. I
>> could feel the resistance and noticed the smell, and the drag from the
>> front. Both front wheels were hot to touch. What causes both of them
>> to stay on? The jeep was in a garage overnight so they were not frozen.
>> I assume it must be the module that controls the braking, but if there
>> is anything I can check it would be a help.




Patrick 01-05-2005 09:04 PM

Re: need help for the pros for TJ front brakes that stick
 
I had a Galiper seize after leaving school many year ago with my 86
Chevette,
Good thing it was winter as i end up in a bank snow.

Seize one side = Galiper ( can happen real quick )
both side... master cylinder or related.....


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> a écrit dans le message de news:
41DAEB3F.C7F37DF4@sympatico.ca...
> That is strange. If it was one side.....
>
> There is a combination valve that controls the front to rear wheel
> pressures and the Master Cylinder. Those are the only two places both
> wheels have in common.
>
> It is unusual for the combination valve to fail.
>
> I have seen masters fail so the front brakes won't release.
>
> I would test it by opening the line fitting for the fronts right at the
> master. If pressure squirts out and they release, the master has failed
> internally. (I just crack them, if under pressure it will come out fast
> first, then slow right down)
>
> If not, then I would open it somewhere after the combination valve on
> either side to look for the stored up pressure. If none there, then I
> would go to the wheel caliper and open it. If that is the only place to
> show built up line pressure, then that implies the rubber lines from the
> wheels to the frame have internally collapsed. It does happen.
>
> This only happens on one side at a time though usually unless someone
> put the wrong fluid into the brake reservoir. If it got the wrong
> fluid, both front hoses could have died.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> snowboardripper@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> I have a 2002 TJ with new pads in the front ( put on early summer). I
>> was driving to work this morning and the front brakes stayed on. I
>> could feel the resistance and noticed the smell, and the drag from the
>> front. Both front wheels were hot to touch. What causes both of them
>> to stay on? The jeep was in a garage overnight so they were not frozen.
>> I assume it must be the module that controls the braking, but if there
>> is anything I can check it would be a help.





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