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03-09-2006 07:35 PM

Need gears and/or rear end ?? HELP !!
 
I have an old ('84) CJ-7 that has mostly stock suspension .. .. only mod
is a single add-a-leaf on all fours. It has a mildly built 350
small-block Chev. and a Tremac T-176 4 speed. It currently has 2.73:1
gears and 33X12.5R-15 BFG's. The effective gear ratio calculates to
something like 1.92:1 .. .. not good. Since swapping gears means
changing carriers also, it's getting kinda expensive to go that route,
so I'm trying to look at all my options here. Anybody want to toss out
ideas as to what they would do with this setup if it were theirs ?? ??
?? I'm thinking 3.90:1 up to 4.10:1 ratio, preferably posi./limited
slip. What fits ?? What's best ?? What's the best compromise ??
This thing is primarily (95%) street driven. I just want it to be able
to go play when I feel like it !! !! !!

thanx .. .. ..

<<<__Bøb__>>>

JimG 03-09-2006 07:58 PM

Re: Need gears and/or rear end ?? HELP !!
 
I would do a Detroit Softlocker in the rear (they don't make the limited
slip Tuetrac for the AMC 20) and an open front with at least 4.10 or better
yet 4.56 gears. Your going to have to buy carriers anyway.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries

00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
Warn X8000i

"<<<__ Bob __>>>" wrote in message ...
> I have an old ('84) CJ-7 that has mostly stock suspension .. .. only mod
> is a single add-a-leaf on all fours. It has a mildly built 350
> small-block Chev. and a Tremac T-176 4 speed. It currently has 2.73:1
> gears and 33X12.5R-15 BFG's. The effective gear ratio calculates to
> something like 1.92:1 .. .. not good. Since swapping gears means
> changing carriers also, it's getting kinda expensive to go that route,
> so I'm trying to look at all my options here. Anybody want to toss out
> ideas as to what they would do with this setup if it were theirs ?? ??
> ?? I'm thinking 3.90:1 up to 4.10:1 ratio, preferably posi./limited
> slip. What fits ?? What's best ?? What's the best compromise ??
> This thing is primarily (95%) street driven. I just want it to be able
> to go play when I feel like it !! !! !!
>
> thanx .. .. ..
>
> <<<__Bøb__>>>




JimG 03-09-2006 07:58 PM

Re: Need gears and/or rear end ?? HELP !!
 
I would do a Detroit Softlocker in the rear (they don't make the limited
slip Tuetrac for the AMC 20) and an open front with at least 4.10 or better
yet 4.56 gears. Your going to have to buy carriers anyway.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries

00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
Warn X8000i

"<<<__ Bob __>>>" wrote in message ...
> I have an old ('84) CJ-7 that has mostly stock suspension .. .. only mod
> is a single add-a-leaf on all fours. It has a mildly built 350
> small-block Chev. and a Tremac T-176 4 speed. It currently has 2.73:1
> gears and 33X12.5R-15 BFG's. The effective gear ratio calculates to
> something like 1.92:1 .. .. not good. Since swapping gears means
> changing carriers also, it's getting kinda expensive to go that route,
> so I'm trying to look at all my options here. Anybody want to toss out
> ideas as to what they would do with this setup if it were theirs ?? ??
> ?? I'm thinking 3.90:1 up to 4.10:1 ratio, preferably posi./limited
> slip. What fits ?? What's best ?? What's the best compromise ??
> This thing is primarily (95%) street driven. I just want it to be able
> to go play when I feel like it !! !! !!
>
> thanx .. .. ..
>
> <<<__Bøb__>>>




JimG 03-09-2006 07:58 PM

Re: Need gears and/or rear end ?? HELP !!
 
I would do a Detroit Softlocker in the rear (they don't make the limited
slip Tuetrac for the AMC 20) and an open front with at least 4.10 or better
yet 4.56 gears. Your going to have to buy carriers anyway.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries

00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
Warn X8000i

"<<<__ Bob __>>>" wrote in message ...
> I have an old ('84) CJ-7 that has mostly stock suspension .. .. only mod
> is a single add-a-leaf on all fours. It has a mildly built 350
> small-block Chev. and a Tremac T-176 4 speed. It currently has 2.73:1
> gears and 33X12.5R-15 BFG's. The effective gear ratio calculates to
> something like 1.92:1 .. .. not good. Since swapping gears means
> changing carriers also, it's getting kinda expensive to go that route,
> so I'm trying to look at all my options here. Anybody want to toss out
> ideas as to what they would do with this setup if it were theirs ?? ??
> ?? I'm thinking 3.90:1 up to 4.10:1 ratio, preferably posi./limited
> slip. What fits ?? What's best ?? What's the best compromise ??
> This thing is primarily (95%) street driven. I just want it to be able
> to go play when I feel like it !! !! !!
>
> thanx .. .. ..
>
> <<<__Bøb__>>>




JimG 03-09-2006 07:58 PM

Re: Need gears and/or rear end ?? HELP !!
 
I would do a Detroit Softlocker in the rear (they don't make the limited
slip Tuetrac for the AMC 20) and an open front with at least 4.10 or better
yet 4.56 gears. Your going to have to buy carriers anyway.

--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries

00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
Warn X8000i

"<<<__ Bob __>>>" wrote in message ...
> I have an old ('84) CJ-7 that has mostly stock suspension .. .. only mod
> is a single add-a-leaf on all fours. It has a mildly built 350
> small-block Chev. and a Tremac T-176 4 speed. It currently has 2.73:1
> gears and 33X12.5R-15 BFG's. The effective gear ratio calculates to
> something like 1.92:1 .. .. not good. Since swapping gears means
> changing carriers also, it's getting kinda expensive to go that route,
> so I'm trying to look at all my options here. Anybody want to toss out
> ideas as to what they would do with this setup if it were theirs ?? ??
> ?? I'm thinking 3.90:1 up to 4.10:1 ratio, preferably posi./limited
> slip. What fits ?? What's best ?? What's the best compromise ??
> This thing is primarily (95%) street driven. I just want it to be able
> to go play when I feel like it !! !! !!
>
> thanx .. .. ..
>
> <<<__Bøb__>>>




Carl 03-10-2006 12:34 AM

Re: Need gears and/or rear end ?? HELP !!
 
With a 350 and 33's, he will destroy an AMC 20. Upgrade it to a D44 and get
4.56's.

Carl


"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:l74Qf.2295$kg.2135@news02.roc.ny...
>I would do a Detroit Softlocker in the rear (they don't make the limited
> slip Tuetrac for the AMC 20) and an open front with at least 4.10 or
> better
> yet 4.56 gears. Your going to have to buy carriers anyway.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
> Warn X8000i
>
> "<<<__ Bob __>>>" wrote in message ...
>> I have an old ('84) CJ-7 that has mostly stock suspension .. .. only mod
>> is a single add-a-leaf on all fours. It has a mildly built 350
>> small-block Chev. and a Tremac T-176 4 speed. It currently has 2.73:1
>> gears and 33X12.5R-15 BFG's. The effective gear ratio calculates to
>> something like 1.92:1 .. .. not good. Since swapping gears means
>> changing carriers also, it's getting kinda expensive to go that route,
>> so I'm trying to look at all my options here. Anybody want to toss out
>> ideas as to what they would do with this setup if it were theirs ?? ??
>> ?? I'm thinking 3.90:1 up to 4.10:1 ratio, preferably posi./limited
>> slip. What fits ?? What's best ?? What's the best compromise ??
>> This thing is primarily (95%) street driven. I just want it to be able
>> to go play when I feel like it !! !! !!
>>
>> thanx .. .. ..
>>
>> <<<__Bøb__>>>

>
>




Carl 03-10-2006 12:34 AM

Re: Need gears and/or rear end ?? HELP !!
 
With a 350 and 33's, he will destroy an AMC 20. Upgrade it to a D44 and get
4.56's.

Carl


"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:l74Qf.2295$kg.2135@news02.roc.ny...
>I would do a Detroit Softlocker in the rear (they don't make the limited
> slip Tuetrac for the AMC 20) and an open front with at least 4.10 or
> better
> yet 4.56 gears. Your going to have to buy carriers anyway.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
> Warn X8000i
>
> "<<<__ Bob __>>>" wrote in message ...
>> I have an old ('84) CJ-7 that has mostly stock suspension .. .. only mod
>> is a single add-a-leaf on all fours. It has a mildly built 350
>> small-block Chev. and a Tremac T-176 4 speed. It currently has 2.73:1
>> gears and 33X12.5R-15 BFG's. The effective gear ratio calculates to
>> something like 1.92:1 .. .. not good. Since swapping gears means
>> changing carriers also, it's getting kinda expensive to go that route,
>> so I'm trying to look at all my options here. Anybody want to toss out
>> ideas as to what they would do with this setup if it were theirs ?? ??
>> ?? I'm thinking 3.90:1 up to 4.10:1 ratio, preferably posi./limited
>> slip. What fits ?? What's best ?? What's the best compromise ??
>> This thing is primarily (95%) street driven. I just want it to be able
>> to go play when I feel like it !! !! !!
>>
>> thanx .. .. ..
>>
>> <<<__Bøb__>>>

>
>




Carl 03-10-2006 12:34 AM

Re: Need gears and/or rear end ?? HELP !!
 
With a 350 and 33's, he will destroy an AMC 20. Upgrade it to a D44 and get
4.56's.

Carl


"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:l74Qf.2295$kg.2135@news02.roc.ny...
>I would do a Detroit Softlocker in the rear (they don't make the limited
> slip Tuetrac for the AMC 20) and an open front with at least 4.10 or
> better
> yet 4.56 gears. Your going to have to buy carriers anyway.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
> Warn X8000i
>
> "<<<__ Bob __>>>" wrote in message ...
>> I have an old ('84) CJ-7 that has mostly stock suspension .. .. only mod
>> is a single add-a-leaf on all fours. It has a mildly built 350
>> small-block Chev. and a Tremac T-176 4 speed. It currently has 2.73:1
>> gears and 33X12.5R-15 BFG's. The effective gear ratio calculates to
>> something like 1.92:1 .. .. not good. Since swapping gears means
>> changing carriers also, it's getting kinda expensive to go that route,
>> so I'm trying to look at all my options here. Anybody want to toss out
>> ideas as to what they would do with this setup if it were theirs ?? ??
>> ?? I'm thinking 3.90:1 up to 4.10:1 ratio, preferably posi./limited
>> slip. What fits ?? What's best ?? What's the best compromise ??
>> This thing is primarily (95%) street driven. I just want it to be able
>> to go play when I feel like it !! !! !!
>>
>> thanx .. .. ..
>>
>> <<<__Bøb__>>>

>
>




Carl 03-10-2006 12:34 AM

Re: Need gears and/or rear end ?? HELP !!
 
With a 350 and 33's, he will destroy an AMC 20. Upgrade it to a D44 and get
4.56's.

Carl


"JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:l74Qf.2295$kg.2135@news02.roc.ny...
>I would do a Detroit Softlocker in the rear (they don't make the limited
> slip Tuetrac for the AMC 20) and an open front with at least 4.10 or
> better
> yet 4.56 gears. Your going to have to buy carriers anyway.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
> Warn X8000i
>
> "<<<__ Bob __>>>" wrote in message ...
>> I have an old ('84) CJ-7 that has mostly stock suspension .. .. only mod
>> is a single add-a-leaf on all fours. It has a mildly built 350
>> small-block Chev. and a Tremac T-176 4 speed. It currently has 2.73:1
>> gears and 33X12.5R-15 BFG's. The effective gear ratio calculates to
>> something like 1.92:1 .. .. not good. Since swapping gears means
>> changing carriers also, it's getting kinda expensive to go that route,
>> so I'm trying to look at all my options here. Anybody want to toss out
>> ideas as to what they would do with this setup if it were theirs ?? ??
>> ?? I'm thinking 3.90:1 up to 4.10:1 ratio, preferably posi./limited
>> slip. What fits ?? What's best ?? What's the best compromise ??
>> This thing is primarily (95%) street driven. I just want it to be able
>> to go play when I feel like it !! !! !!
>>
>> thanx .. .. ..
>>
>> <<<__Bøb__>>>

>
>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 03-10-2006 02:12 AM

Re: Need gears and/or rear end ?? HELP !!
 
Actually, Rambler's 400 HP Factory Experimentals never had a
problem with their AMC-20. It's only if the axles have been taken apart
and incorrectly reassemble do they fail. AMC-20 8.75" ring to the Dana
44's 8.5". Axles: http://----------.com/dana35c/amc20dana44axles.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Carl wrote:
>
> With a 350 and 33's, he will destroy an AMC 20. Upgrade it to a D44 and get
> 4.56's.
>
> Carl



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