Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

My 95 yj I6 seems to have developed a clutch problem (at least i hope
its a clutch problem, not a tranny problem). When i shift from second
into third it does not want to go, and you can hear it scrapping just
like you didnt push the clutch. When you let of the gas in 5th gear it
makes a scrapping sound and has a rough feel in the shiftr lever. The
problem is only in those 2 gears. If it is a problem with clutch how
do i get to the cluch everything i have found has been for a 93 or
older, and it says to pull the tranny, is it the same for a 95 and if
so is there any other way, also how much will it cost if i do it and
how much will cost to have a mechanic do it.


Any help appreciated
Thanks in advance, Donny

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

Well, you have to drop the trans and tcase to get to the clutch. The clutch
lives in the space between the motor and the trans. You can pull the motor
or drop the trans. Most guys that are working at home in the garage will opt
to drop the trans to gain access to the clutch. Actually, most guys anywhere
will drop the trans to get to the clutch, but it is *possible* to pull the
motor instead.




"Donny" <donny1487@aol.com> wrote in message
news:7f4fc501.0402061115.43430e3@posting.google.co m...
> My 95 yj I6 seems to have developed a clutch problem (at least i hope
> its a clutch problem, not a tranny problem). When i shift from second
> into third it does not want to go, and you can hear it scrapping just
> like you didnt push the clutch. When you let of the gas in 5th gear it
> makes a scrapping sound and has a rough feel in the shiftr lever. The
> problem is only in those 2 gears. If it is a problem with clutch how
> do i get to the cluch everything i have found has been for a 93 or
> older, and it says to pull the tranny, is it the same for a 95 and if
> so is there any other way, also how much will it cost if i do it and
> how much will cost to have a mechanic do it.
>
>
> Any help appreciated
> Thanks in advance, Donny

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

Well, you have to drop the trans and tcase to get to the clutch. The clutch
lives in the space between the motor and the trans. You can pull the motor
or drop the trans. Most guys that are working at home in the garage will opt
to drop the trans to gain access to the clutch. Actually, most guys anywhere
will drop the trans to get to the clutch, but it is *possible* to pull the
motor instead.




"Donny" <donny1487@aol.com> wrote in message
news:7f4fc501.0402061115.43430e3@posting.google.co m...
> My 95 yj I6 seems to have developed a clutch problem (at least i hope
> its a clutch problem, not a tranny problem). When i shift from second
> into third it does not want to go, and you can hear it scrapping just
> like you didnt push the clutch. When you let of the gas in 5th gear it
> makes a scrapping sound and has a rough feel in the shiftr lever. The
> problem is only in those 2 gears. If it is a problem with clutch how
> do i get to the cluch everything i have found has been for a 93 or
> older, and it says to pull the tranny, is it the same for a 95 and if
> so is there any other way, also how much will it cost if i do it and
> how much will cost to have a mechanic do it.
>
>
> Any help appreciated
> Thanks in advance, Donny

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

Well, you have to drop the trans and tcase to get to the clutch. The clutch
lives in the space between the motor and the trans. You can pull the motor
or drop the trans. Most guys that are working at home in the garage will opt
to drop the trans to gain access to the clutch. Actually, most guys anywhere
will drop the trans to get to the clutch, but it is *possible* to pull the
motor instead.




"Donny" <donny1487@aol.com> wrote in message
news:7f4fc501.0402061115.43430e3@posting.google.co m...
> My 95 yj I6 seems to have developed a clutch problem (at least i hope
> its a clutch problem, not a tranny problem). When i shift from second
> into third it does not want to go, and you can hear it scrapping just
> like you didnt push the clutch. When you let of the gas in 5th gear it
> makes a scrapping sound and has a rough feel in the shiftr lever. The
> problem is only in those 2 gears. If it is a problem with clutch how
> do i get to the cluch everything i have found has been for a 93 or
> older, and it says to pull the tranny, is it the same for a 95 and if
> so is there any other way, also how much will it cost if i do it and
> how much will cost to have a mechanic do it.
>
>
> Any help appreciated
> Thanks in advance, Donny

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

Hi Don,
Fortunately, if it it is a clutch hydraulic slave problem the YJ
moved it outside the bellhousing after '93. Have you checked the clutch
reservoir for fluid? Most people with a clutch problem complain about
the first, and reverse shift while stopped, rather than third, and
fifth. Usually noise associated with fifth gear is the transmission
input bearing. Take to a transmision shop, and let them test drive.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Donny wrote:
>
> My 95 yj I6 seems to have developed a clutch problem (at least i hope
> its a clutch problem, not a tranny problem). When i shift from second
> into third it does not want to go, and you can hear it scrapping just
> like you didnt push the clutch. When you let of the gas in 5th gear it
> makes a scrapping sound and has a rough feel in the shiftr lever. The
> problem is only in those 2 gears. If it is a problem with clutch how
> do i get to the cluch everything i have found has been for a 93 or
> older, and it says to pull the tranny, is it the same for a 95 and if
> so is there any other way, also how much will it cost if i do it and
> how much will cost to have a mechanic do it.
>
> Any help appreciated
> Thanks in advance, Donny

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

Hi Don,
Fortunately, if it it is a clutch hydraulic slave problem the YJ
moved it outside the bellhousing after '93. Have you checked the clutch
reservoir for fluid? Most people with a clutch problem complain about
the first, and reverse shift while stopped, rather than third, and
fifth. Usually noise associated with fifth gear is the transmission
input bearing. Take to a transmision shop, and let them test drive.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Donny wrote:
>
> My 95 yj I6 seems to have developed a clutch problem (at least i hope
> its a clutch problem, not a tranny problem). When i shift from second
> into third it does not want to go, and you can hear it scrapping just
> like you didnt push the clutch. When you let of the gas in 5th gear it
> makes a scrapping sound and has a rough feel in the shiftr lever. The
> problem is only in those 2 gears. If it is a problem with clutch how
> do i get to the cluch everything i have found has been for a 93 or
> older, and it says to pull the tranny, is it the same for a 95 and if
> so is there any other way, also how much will it cost if i do it and
> how much will cost to have a mechanic do it.
>
> Any help appreciated
> Thanks in advance, Donny

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

Hi Don,
Fortunately, if it it is a clutch hydraulic slave problem the YJ
moved it outside the bellhousing after '93. Have you checked the clutch
reservoir for fluid? Most people with a clutch problem complain about
the first, and reverse shift while stopped, rather than third, and
fifth. Usually noise associated with fifth gear is the transmission
input bearing. Take to a transmision shop, and let them test drive.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Donny wrote:
>
> My 95 yj I6 seems to have developed a clutch problem (at least i hope
> its a clutch problem, not a tranny problem). When i shift from second
> into third it does not want to go, and you can hear it scrapping just
> like you didnt push the clutch. When you let of the gas in 5th gear it
> makes a scrapping sound and has a rough feel in the shiftr lever. The
> problem is only in those 2 gears. If it is a problem with clutch how
> do i get to the cluch everything i have found has been for a 93 or
> older, and it says to pull the tranny, is it the same for a 95 and if
> so is there any other way, also how much will it cost if i do it and
> how much will cost to have a mechanic do it.
>
> Any help appreciated
> Thanks in advance, Donny

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

Mine did that once and it was the cluster gears... $$$$

Dennis Gann


"Donny" <donny1487@aol.com> wrote in message
news:7f4fc501.0402061115.43430e3@posting.google.co m...
> My 95 yj I6 seems to have developed a clutch problem (at least i hope
> its a clutch problem, not a tranny problem). When i shift from second
> into third it does not want to go, and you can hear it scrapping just
> like you didnt push the clutch. When you let of the gas in 5th gear it
> makes a scrapping sound and has a rough feel in the shiftr lever. The
> problem is only in those 2 gears. If it is a problem with clutch how
> do i get to the cluch everything i have found has been for a 93 or
> older, and it says to pull the tranny, is it the same for a 95 and if
> so is there any other way, also how much will it cost if i do it and
> how much will cost to have a mechanic do it.
>
>
> Any help appreciated
> Thanks in advance, Donny

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

Mine did that once and it was the cluster gears... $$$$

Dennis Gann


"Donny" <donny1487@aol.com> wrote in message
news:7f4fc501.0402061115.43430e3@posting.google.co m...
> My 95 yj I6 seems to have developed a clutch problem (at least i hope
> its a clutch problem, not a tranny problem). When i shift from second
> into third it does not want to go, and you can hear it scrapping just
> like you didnt push the clutch. When you let of the gas in 5th gear it
> makes a scrapping sound and has a rough feel in the shiftr lever. The
> problem is only in those 2 gears. If it is a problem with clutch how
> do i get to the cluch everything i have found has been for a 93 or
> older, and it says to pull the tranny, is it the same for a 95 and if
> so is there any other way, also how much will it cost if i do it and
> how much will cost to have a mechanic do it.
>
>
> Any help appreciated
> Thanks in advance, Donny

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

Mine did that once and it was the cluster gears... $$$$

Dennis Gann


"Donny" <donny1487@aol.com> wrote in message
news:7f4fc501.0402061115.43430e3@posting.google.co m...
> My 95 yj I6 seems to have developed a clutch problem (at least i hope
> its a clutch problem, not a tranny problem). When i shift from second
> into third it does not want to go, and you can hear it scrapping just
> like you didnt push the clutch. When you let of the gas in 5th gear it
> makes a scrapping sound and has a rough feel in the shiftr lever. The
> problem is only in those 2 gears. If it is a problem with clutch how
> do i get to the cluch everything i have found has been for a 93 or
> older, and it says to pull the tranny, is it the same for a 95 and if
> so is there any other way, also how much will it cost if i do it and
> how much will cost to have a mechanic do it.
>
>
> Any help appreciated
> Thanks in advance, Donny

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

Hey guys, thanks for all the help.

I took it to the shop today and they said i was going to have to: A.
Get a new/new to me tranny or, B. Have mine rebuilt.
Both of these options are a bit pricy so i think i will wait a while(
they said it would'nt do any more harm, it was gona have to be rebuilt
anyway).

So... Being a true idiot/money blower/Jeeper, i got to thinking, is
there any nice options i should look at since i have to replace it
anyway...

Keep on jeepin,
-Donny <><

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

Hey guys, thanks for all the help.

I took it to the shop today and they said i was going to have to: A.
Get a new/new to me tranny or, B. Have mine rebuilt.
Both of these options are a bit pricy so i think i will wait a while(
they said it would'nt do any more harm, it was gona have to be rebuilt
anyway).

So... Being a true idiot/money blower/Jeeper, i got to thinking, is
there any nice options i should look at since i have to replace it
anyway...

Keep on jeepin,
-Donny <><

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

Hey guys, thanks for all the help.

I took it to the shop today and they said i was going to have to: A.
Get a new/new to me tranny or, B. Have mine rebuilt.
Both of these options are a bit pricy so i think i will wait a while(
they said it would'nt do any more harm, it was gona have to be rebuilt
anyway).

So... Being a true idiot/money blower/Jeeper, i got to thinking, is
there any nice options i should look at since i have to replace it
anyway...

Keep on jeepin,
-Donny <><

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

Then it is the sychros and not the bearings?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Donny wrote:
>
> Hey guys, thanks for all the help.
>
> I took it to the shop today and they said i was going to have to: A.
> Get a new/new to me tranny or, B. Have mine rebuilt.
> Both of these options are a bit pricy so i think i will wait a while(
> they said it would'nt do any more harm, it was gona have to be rebuilt
> anyway).
>
> So... Being a true idiot/money blower/Jeeper, i got to thinking, is
> there any nice options i should look at since i have to replace it
> anyway...
>
> Keep on jeepin,
> -Donny <><

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

Then it is the sychros and not the bearings?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Donny wrote:
>
> Hey guys, thanks for all the help.
>
> I took it to the shop today and they said i was going to have to: A.
> Get a new/new to me tranny or, B. Have mine rebuilt.
> Both of these options are a bit pricy so i think i will wait a while(
> they said it would'nt do any more harm, it was gona have to be rebuilt
> anyway).
>
> So... Being a true idiot/money blower/Jeeper, i got to thinking, is
> there any nice options i should look at since i have to replace it
> anyway...
>
> Keep on jeepin,
> -Donny <><

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

Then it is the sychros and not the bearings?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Donny wrote:
>
> Hey guys, thanks for all the help.
>
> I took it to the shop today and they said i was going to have to: A.
> Get a new/new to me tranny or, B. Have mine rebuilt.
> Both of these options are a bit pricy so i think i will wait a while(
> they said it would'nt do any more harm, it was gona have to be rebuilt
> anyway).
>
> So... Being a true idiot/money blower/Jeeper, i got to thinking, is
> there any nice options i should look at since i have to replace it
> anyway...
>
> Keep on jeepin,
> -Donny <><

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

A bad engine mount can cause the shifter to hit the body and act
something like you are describing.

I think I would be pulling off the shifter boot to check before forking
out for a rebuild.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Donny wrote:
>
> My 95 yj I6 seems to have developed a clutch problem (at least i hope
> its a clutch problem, not a tranny problem). When i shift from second
> into third it does not want to go, and you can hear it scrapping just
> like you didnt push the clutch. When you let of the gas in 5th gear it
> makes a scrapping sound and has a rough feel in the shiftr lever. The
> problem is only in those 2 gears. If it is a problem with clutch how
> do i get to the cluch everything i have found has been for a 93 or
> older, and it says to pull the tranny, is it the same for a 95 and if
> so is there any other way, also how much will it cost if i do it and
> how much will cost to have a mechanic do it.
>
> Any help appreciated
> Thanks in advance, Donny

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

A bad engine mount can cause the shifter to hit the body and act
something like you are describing.

I think I would be pulling off the shifter boot to check before forking
out for a rebuild.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Donny wrote:
>
> My 95 yj I6 seems to have developed a clutch problem (at least i hope
> its a clutch problem, not a tranny problem). When i shift from second
> into third it does not want to go, and you can hear it scrapping just
> like you didnt push the clutch. When you let of the gas in 5th gear it
> makes a scrapping sound and has a rough feel in the shiftr lever. The
> problem is only in those 2 gears. If it is a problem with clutch how
> do i get to the cluch everything i have found has been for a 93 or
> older, and it says to pull the tranny, is it the same for a 95 and if
> so is there any other way, also how much will it cost if i do it and
> how much will cost to have a mechanic do it.
>
> Any help appreciated
> Thanks in advance, Donny

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

A bad engine mount can cause the shifter to hit the body and act
something like you are describing.

I think I would be pulling off the shifter boot to check before forking
out for a rebuild.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Donny wrote:
>
> My 95 yj I6 seems to have developed a clutch problem (at least i hope
> its a clutch problem, not a tranny problem). When i shift from second
> into third it does not want to go, and you can hear it scrapping just
> like you didnt push the clutch. When you let of the gas in 5th gear it
> makes a scrapping sound and has a rough feel in the shiftr lever. The
> problem is only in those 2 gears. If it is a problem with clutch how
> do i get to the cluch everything i have found has been for a 93 or
> older, and it says to pull the tranny, is it the same for a 95 and if
> so is there any other way, also how much will it cost if i do it and
> how much will cost to have a mechanic do it.
>
> Any help appreciated
> Thanks in advance, Donny

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:34:47 UTC donny1487@aol.com (Donny) wrote:

> Hey guys, thanks for all the help.
>
> I took it to the shop today and they said i was going to have to: A.
> Get a new/new to me tranny or, B. Have mine rebuilt.
> Both of these options are a bit pricy so i think i will wait a while(
> they said it would'nt do any more harm, it was gona have to be rebuilt
> anyway).
>
> So... Being a true idiot/money blower/Jeeper, i got to thinking, is
> there any nice options i should look at since i have to replace it
> anyway...

Having been in this position, you might consider the second option. I
pulled the BA 10/5 apart after I had swapped in an AX15 and the
diffetence is night and day as far as strength goes ( What I really
wanted was the inout shaft to use as an alignment tool ). Just the
weight difference alone was enlightening: I dropped the BA 10/5 by
myself and set it out from under the Jeep with one hand then bought a
transmission jack to get the AX15 into place. The BA 10/5 has several
obvious weak points in the way the shafts/gears are mounted and that
@#$ aluminum synchro set is a kludge from word go. I could go on and
on, but the added strength is well worth the effort. I think mine
wound up costing me about $1400, but I swapped bell housings,
converted to the extrernal slave, and needed several extra parts like
new cross members and mount plates since the MJ does not use the skid
plate as part of the mounting scheme. The actual cost of the rebuilt
tranny (all new bearings and brass) was about half of the total price.

I was having all sorts of trouble with 1-2 shifts and the inut shaft
was making ominous noises. Once I tore it down, I could see that I
was a few thouandths away from having the idler gears meshing with the
input and cluster gears - grenade time. The cost of the synchro
assembly alone for rebuild approaches the cost of new tranny itself.

--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:34:47 UTC donny1487@aol.com (Donny) wrote:

> Hey guys, thanks for all the help.
>
> I took it to the shop today and they said i was going to have to: A.
> Get a new/new to me tranny or, B. Have mine rebuilt.
> Both of these options are a bit pricy so i think i will wait a while(
> they said it would'nt do any more harm, it was gona have to be rebuilt
> anyway).
>
> So... Being a true idiot/money blower/Jeeper, i got to thinking, is
> there any nice options i should look at since i have to replace it
> anyway...

Having been in this position, you might consider the second option. I
pulled the BA 10/5 apart after I had swapped in an AX15 and the
diffetence is night and day as far as strength goes ( What I really
wanted was the inout shaft to use as an alignment tool ). Just the
weight difference alone was enlightening: I dropped the BA 10/5 by
myself and set it out from under the Jeep with one hand then bought a
transmission jack to get the AX15 into place. The BA 10/5 has several
obvious weak points in the way the shafts/gears are mounted and that
@#$ aluminum synchro set is a kludge from word go. I could go on and
on, but the added strength is well worth the effort. I think mine
wound up costing me about $1400, but I swapped bell housings,
converted to the extrernal slave, and needed several extra parts like
new cross members and mount plates since the MJ does not use the skid
plate as part of the mounting scheme. The actual cost of the rebuilt
tranny (all new bearings and brass) was about half of the total price.

I was having all sorts of trouble with 1-2 shifts and the inut shaft
was making ominous noises. Once I tore it down, I could see that I
was a few thouandths away from having the idler gears meshing with the
input and cluster gears - grenade time. The cost of the synchro
assembly alone for rebuild approaches the cost of new tranny itself.

--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:34:47 UTC donny1487@aol.com (Donny) wrote:

> Hey guys, thanks for all the help.
>
> I took it to the shop today and they said i was going to have to: A.
> Get a new/new to me tranny or, B. Have mine rebuilt.
> Both of these options are a bit pricy so i think i will wait a while(
> they said it would'nt do any more harm, it was gona have to be rebuilt
> anyway).
>
> So... Being a true idiot/money blower/Jeeper, i got to thinking, is
> there any nice options i should look at since i have to replace it
> anyway...

Having been in this position, you might consider the second option. I
pulled the BA 10/5 apart after I had swapped in an AX15 and the
diffetence is night and day as far as strength goes ( What I really
wanted was the inout shaft to use as an alignment tool ). Just the
weight difference alone was enlightening: I dropped the BA 10/5 by
myself and set it out from under the Jeep with one hand then bought a
transmission jack to get the AX15 into place. The BA 10/5 has several
obvious weak points in the way the shafts/gears are mounted and that
@#$ aluminum synchro set is a kludge from word go. I could go on and
on, but the added strength is well worth the effort. I think mine
wound up costing me about $1400, but I swapped bell housings,
converted to the extrernal slave, and needed several extra parts like
new cross members and mount plates since the MJ does not use the skid
plate as part of the mounting scheme. The actual cost of the rebuilt
tranny (all new bearings and brass) was about half of the total price.

I was having all sorts of trouble with 1-2 shifts and the inut shaft
was making ominous noises. Once I tore it down, I could see that I
was a few thouandths away from having the idler gears meshing with the
input and cluster gears - grenade time. The cost of the synchro
assembly alone for rebuild approaches the cost of new tranny itself.

--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<4029430E.E32A62D4@cox.net>...
> Then it is the sychros and not the bearings?

Thats what he said but i am going to have it looked at by another shop
because after checking around he gave me a much higher price than what
other shops have given me over the phone (of course they havnt driven
it so they may say the same thing when i have them check it out).

-Donny

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<4029430E.E32A62D4@cox.net>...
> Then it is the sychros and not the bearings?

Thats what he said but i am going to have it looked at by another shop
because after checking around he gave me a much higher price than what
other shops have given me over the phone (of course they havnt driven
it so they may say the same thing when i have them check it out).

-Donny

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<4029430E.E32A62D4@cox.net>...
> Then it is the sychros and not the bearings?

Thats what he said but i am going to have it looked at by another shop
because after checking around he gave me a much higher price than what
other shops have given me over the phone (of course they havnt driven
it so they may say the same thing when i have them check it out).

-Donny

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

Then I would just learn to double clutch. Because it's about two
grand to get the ten dollar sync rings in there.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Donny wrote:
>
> Thats what he said but i am going to have it looked at by another shop
> because after checking around he gave me a much higher price than what
> other shops have given me over the phone (of course they havnt driven
> it so they may say the same thing when i have them check it out).
>
> -Donny

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

Then I would just learn to double clutch. Because it's about two
grand to get the ten dollar sync rings in there.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Donny wrote:
>
> Thats what he said but i am going to have it looked at by another shop
> because after checking around he gave me a much higher price than what
> other shops have given me over the phone (of course they havnt driven
> it so they may say the same thing when i have them check it out).
>
> -Donny

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

Then I would just learn to double clutch. Because it's about two
grand to get the ten dollar sync rings in there.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Donny wrote:
>
> Thats what he said but i am going to have it looked at by another shop
> because after checking around he gave me a much higher price than what
> other shops have given me over the phone (of course they havnt driven
> it so they may say the same thing when i have them check it out).
>
> -Donny

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:33:42 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Then I would just learn to double clutch. Because it's about two
> grand to get the ten dollar sync rings in there.

That's probably what they are worth, but check the price of those
aluminum synchros sometime - that was the deciding moment when I
originally thought about rebuilding my BA 10/5 (before I learned
better anyway).

--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:33:42 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Then I would just learn to double clutch. Because it's about two
> grand to get the ten dollar sync rings in there.

That's probably what they are worth, but check the price of those
aluminum synchros sometime - that was the deciding moment when I
originally thought about rebuilding my BA 10/5 (before I learned
better anyway).

--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:33:42 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Then I would just learn to double clutch. Because it's about two
> grand to get the ten dollar sync rings in there.

That's probably what they are worth, but check the price of those
aluminum synchros sometime - that was the deciding moment when I
originally thought about rebuilding my BA 10/5 (before I learned
better anyway).

--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

Hi Will,
They are brass in every trans I've had apart, of course you're
going to have to buy a small parts kit. The french are weird when it
comes to maintaining a parts supply, like they won't allow Renault
replacement parts to be shipped to the U.S.of A. and the parts reflect
that, at two hundred bucks for a sync block:
http://www.drivetrain.com/pugojeepBA_10.html That's all right, f**k the
frogs. Americans should buy American, where the rock crusher Borg Warner
Super T-10's sync ring is still ten bucks:
http://www.kajunjon.com/Main/rebuild_kits.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Will Honea wrote:
>
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:33:42 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Then I would just learn to double clutch. Because it's about two
> > grand to get the ten dollar sync rings in there.
>
> That's probably what they are worth, but check the price of those
> aluminum synchros sometime - that was the deciding moment when I
> originally thought about rebuilding my BA 10/5 (before I learned
> better anyway).
>
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

Hi Will,
They are brass in every trans I've had apart, of course you're
going to have to buy a small parts kit. The french are weird when it
comes to maintaining a parts supply, like they won't allow Renault
replacement parts to be shipped to the U.S.of A. and the parts reflect
that, at two hundred bucks for a sync block:
http://www.drivetrain.com/pugojeepBA_10.html That's all right, f**k the
frogs. Americans should buy American, where the rock crusher Borg Warner
Super T-10's sync ring is still ten bucks:
http://www.kajunjon.com/Main/rebuild_kits.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Will Honea wrote:
>
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:33:42 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Then I would just learn to double clutch. Because it's about two
> > grand to get the ten dollar sync rings in there.
>
> That's probably what they are worth, but check the price of those
> aluminum synchros sometime - that was the deciding moment when I
> originally thought about rebuilding my BA 10/5 (before I learned
> better anyway).
>
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

Hi Will,
They are brass in every trans I've had apart, of course you're
going to have to buy a small parts kit. The french are weird when it
comes to maintaining a parts supply, like they won't allow Renault
replacement parts to be shipped to the U.S.of A. and the parts reflect
that, at two hundred bucks for a sync block:
http://www.drivetrain.com/pugojeepBA_10.html That's all right, f**k the
frogs. Americans should buy American, where the rock crusher Borg Warner
Super T-10's sync ring is still ten bucks:
http://www.kajunjon.com/Main/rebuild_kits.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Will Honea wrote:
>
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:33:42 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Then I would just learn to double clutch. Because it's about two
> > grand to get the ten dollar sync rings in there.
>
> That's probably what they are worth, but check the price of those
> aluminum synchros sometime - that was the deciding moment when I
> originally thought about rebuilding my BA 10/5 (before I learned
> better anyway).
>
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

It surprised the heck out of me too, but the BA 10/5 uses aluminum
cones for the synchros. All I had ever seen were yellow metal until I
ran into these. By the time you figured out the prices for the soft
parts like synchros and bearings it was already cheaper to swap it out
for an AX 15 (or a compatible BW - the AX 15 was available) and that
didn't include any hard parts.

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 08:46:44 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Hi Will,
> They are brass in every trans I've had apart, of course you're
> going to have to buy a small parts kit. The french are weird when it
> comes to maintaining a parts supply, like they won't allow Renault
> replacement parts to be shipped to the U.S.of A. and the parts reflect
> that, at two hundred bucks for a sync block:
> http://www.drivetrain.com/pugojeepBA_10.html That's all right, f**k the
> frogs. Americans should buy American, where the rock crusher Borg Warner
> Super T-10's sync ring is still ten bucks:
> http://www.kajunjon.com/Main/rebuild_kits.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Will Honea wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:33:42 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> > <----------@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Then I would just learn to double clutch. Because it's about two
> > > grand to get the ten dollar sync rings in there.
> >
> > That's probably what they are worth, but check the price of those
> > aluminum synchros sometime - that was the deciding moment when I
> > originally thought about rebuilding my BA 10/5 (before I learned
> > better anyway).
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>


--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

It surprised the heck out of me too, but the BA 10/5 uses aluminum
cones for the synchros. All I had ever seen were yellow metal until I
ran into these. By the time you figured out the prices for the soft
parts like synchros and bearings it was already cheaper to swap it out
for an AX 15 (or a compatible BW - the AX 15 was available) and that
didn't include any hard parts.

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 08:46:44 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Hi Will,
> They are brass in every trans I've had apart, of course you're
> going to have to buy a small parts kit. The french are weird when it
> comes to maintaining a parts supply, like they won't allow Renault
> replacement parts to be shipped to the U.S.of A. and the parts reflect
> that, at two hundred bucks for a sync block:
> http://www.drivetrain.com/pugojeepBA_10.html That's all right, f**k the
> frogs. Americans should buy American, where the rock crusher Borg Warner
> Super T-10's sync ring is still ten bucks:
> http://www.kajunjon.com/Main/rebuild_kits.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Will Honea wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:33:42 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> > <----------@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Then I would just learn to double clutch. Because it's about two
> > > grand to get the ten dollar sync rings in there.
> >
> > That's probably what they are worth, but check the price of those
> > aluminum synchros sometime - that was the deciding moment when I
> > originally thought about rebuilding my BA 10/5 (before I learned
> > better anyway).
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>


--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
 

It surprised the heck out of me too, but the BA 10/5 uses aluminum
cones for the synchros. All I had ever seen were yellow metal until I
ran into these. By the time you figured out the prices for the soft
parts like synchros and bearings it was already cheaper to swap it out
for an AX 15 (or a compatible BW - the AX 15 was available) and that
didn't include any hard parts.

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 08:46:44 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Hi Will,
> They are brass in every trans I've had apart, of course you're
> going to have to buy a small parts kit. The french are weird when it
> comes to maintaining a parts supply, like they won't allow Renault
> replacement parts to be shipped to the U.S.of A. and the parts reflect
> that, at two hundred bucks for a sync block:
> http://www.drivetrain.com/pugojeepBA_10.html That's all right, f**k the
> frogs. Americans should buy American, where the rock crusher Borg Warner
> Super T-10's sync ring is still ten bucks:
> http://www.kajunjon.com/Main/rebuild_kits.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Will Honea wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:33:42 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> > <----------@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Then I would just learn to double clutch. Because it's about two
> > > grand to get the ten dollar sync rings in there.
> >
> > That's probably what they are worth, but check the price of those
> > aluminum synchros sometime - that was the deciding moment when I
> > originally thought about rebuilding my BA 10/5 (before I learned
> > better anyway).
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>


--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>