My kids' out grown the TJ
 

For all you young parents out there don't blink cause that baby you're lugging
around in a car seat is going to be huge in what seems like mere moments. My
boy is as tall as his mom and still growing. The back seat of the TJ is just
too small and we've got to figure something else out.

My wife and I are talking about our options and one of our talking points was
building a Grand Cherokee. Its got some pluses: backseat room, could be more
comfortably driven to and from the trail (4 hour drives), and it would be
unique.

But I'm concerned that a built Grand couldn't keep up with my group of friends.
http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/moab.htm
These are from Golden Spike in Moab. (my jeep is the one with the hard top and
the kid in the shot has added 11/2 feet to his height.) When all is said and
done I'm looking to build a Moab rock crawler that can run the 4+ trails all day
long and still drive home at night. This won't be my daily driver, but a
weekender that might be driven to work occasionally.

Anybody here driving Grands like Jeeps? Any suggestions as to the best years
and engines between 1993 and 1999? Links, experiences, stories?

Thanks
Dean

Re: My kids' out grown the TJ
 

Have the 3 of you tried sitting in an Unlimited TJ?

my wife had a 99 Grand Cherokee Limited. It was a sweet ride in stock. The
seats were really comfortable and made for a relaxing ride. From everything
I've seen, most of the Grands that I've seen that areset up for trail rides
were the ZJ's ( http://www.off-road.com/jeep/grand/r...ll/3lift01.jpg )



"Dean" <no.email @ papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:j2jeu0dpgr6h4v4lqgksa1gjvveape1kbn@4ax.com...
>
> For all you young parents out there don't blink cause that baby you're
> lugging
> around in a car seat is going to be huge in what seems like mere moments.
> My
> boy is as tall as his mom and still growing. The back seat of the TJ is
> just
> too small and we've got to figure something else out.
>
> My wife and I are talking about our options and one of our talking points
> was
> building a Grand Cherokee. Its got some pluses: backseat room, could be
> more
> comfortably driven to and from the trail (4 hour drives), and it would be
> unique.
>
> But I'm concerned that a built Grand couldn't keep up with my group of
> friends.
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/moab.htm
> These are from Golden Spike in Moab. (my jeep is the one with the hard top
> and
> the kid in the shot has added 11/2 feet to his height.) When all is said
> and
> done I'm looking to build a Moab rock crawler that can run the 4+ trails
> all day
> long and still drive home at night. This won't be my daily driver, but a
> weekender that might be driven to work occasionally.
>
> Anybody here driving Grands like Jeeps? Any suggestions as to the best
> years
> and engines between 1993 and 1999? Links, experiences, stories?
>
> Thanks
> Dean

Re: My kids' out grown the TJ
 

Have the 3 of you tried sitting in an Unlimited TJ?

my wife had a 99 Grand Cherokee Limited. It was a sweet ride in stock. The
seats were really comfortable and made for a relaxing ride. From everything
I've seen, most of the Grands that I've seen that areset up for trail rides
were the ZJ's ( http://www.off-road.com/jeep/grand/r...ll/3lift01.jpg )



"Dean" <no.email @ papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:j2jeu0dpgr6h4v4lqgksa1gjvveape1kbn@4ax.com...
>
> For all you young parents out there don't blink cause that baby you're
> lugging
> around in a car seat is going to be huge in what seems like mere moments.
> My
> boy is as tall as his mom and still growing. The back seat of the TJ is
> just
> too small and we've got to figure something else out.
>
> My wife and I are talking about our options and one of our talking points
> was
> building a Grand Cherokee. Its got some pluses: backseat room, could be
> more
> comfortably driven to and from the trail (4 hour drives), and it would be
> unique.
>
> But I'm concerned that a built Grand couldn't keep up with my group of
> friends.
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/moab.htm
> These are from Golden Spike in Moab. (my jeep is the one with the hard top
> and
> the kid in the shot has added 11/2 feet to his height.) When all is said
> and
> done I'm looking to build a Moab rock crawler that can run the 4+ trails
> all day
> long and still drive home at night. This won't be my daily driver, but a
> weekender that might be driven to work occasionally.
>
> Anybody here driving Grands like Jeeps? Any suggestions as to the best
> years
> and engines between 1993 and 1999? Links, experiences, stories?
>
> Thanks
> Dean

Re: My kids' out grown the TJ
 

Have the 3 of you tried sitting in an Unlimited TJ?

my wife had a 99 Grand Cherokee Limited. It was a sweet ride in stock. The
seats were really comfortable and made for a relaxing ride. From everything
I've seen, most of the Grands that I've seen that areset up for trail rides
were the ZJ's ( http://www.off-road.com/jeep/grand/r...ll/3lift01.jpg )



"Dean" <no.email @ papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:j2jeu0dpgr6h4v4lqgksa1gjvveape1kbn@4ax.com...
>
> For all you young parents out there don't blink cause that baby you're
> lugging
> around in a car seat is going to be huge in what seems like mere moments.
> My
> boy is as tall as his mom and still growing. The back seat of the TJ is
> just
> too small and we've got to figure something else out.
>
> My wife and I are talking about our options and one of our talking points
> was
> building a Grand Cherokee. Its got some pluses: backseat room, could be
> more
> comfortably driven to and from the trail (4 hour drives), and it would be
> unique.
>
> But I'm concerned that a built Grand couldn't keep up with my group of
> friends.
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/moab.htm
> These are from Golden Spike in Moab. (my jeep is the one with the hard top
> and
> the kid in the shot has added 11/2 feet to his height.) When all is said
> and
> done I'm looking to build a Moab rock crawler that can run the 4+ trails
> all day
> long and still drive home at night. This won't be my daily driver, but a
> weekender that might be driven to work occasionally.
>
> Anybody here driving Grands like Jeeps? Any suggestions as to the best
> years
> and engines between 1993 and 1999? Links, experiences, stories?
>
> Thanks
> Dean

Re: My kids' out grown the TJ
 

<Homer Simpson voice>mmmmm Rubicon Unlimited mmm </Simpson voice>

Unfortunately that isn't in the budget. If I go this route I'll be looking for
an older Grand Cherokee. Like the one in your link, thanks.

Dean

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:22:04 GMT, "Chad Fraker" <sylvanis@wi.rr.com> wrote:

>Have the 3 of you tried sitting in an Unlimited TJ?
>
>my wife had a 99 Grand Cherokee Limited. It was a sweet ride in stock. The
>seats were really comfortable and made for a relaxing ride. From everything
>I've seen, most of the Grands that I've seen that areset up for trail rides
>were the ZJ's ( http://www.off-road.com/jeep/grand/r...ll/3lift01.jpg )
>
>
>
>"Dean" <no.email @ papernapkin.net> wrote in message
>news:j2jeu0dpgr6h4v4lqgksa1gjvveape1kbn@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> For all you young parents out there don't blink cause that baby you're
>> lugging
>> around in a car seat is going to be huge in what seems like mere moments.
>> My
>> boy is as tall as his mom and still growing. The back seat of the TJ is
>> just
>> too small and we've got to figure something else out.
>>
>> My wife and I are talking about our options and one of our talking points
>> was
>> building a Grand Cherokee. Its got some pluses: backseat room, could be
>> more
>> comfortably driven to and from the trail (4 hour drives), and it would be
>> unique.
>>
>> But I'm concerned that a built Grand couldn't keep up with my group of
>> friends.
>> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/moab.htm
>> These are from Golden Spike in Moab. (my jeep is the one with the hard top
>> and
>> the kid in the shot has added 11/2 feet to his height.) When all is said
>> and
>> done I'm looking to build a Moab rock crawler that can run the 4+ trails
>> all day
>> long and still drive home at night. This won't be my daily driver, but a
>> weekender that might be driven to work occasionally.
>>
>> Anybody here driving Grands like Jeeps? Any suggestions as to the best
>> years
>> and engines between 1993 and 1999? Links, experiences, stories?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Dean
>

Re: My kids' out grown the TJ
 

<Homer Simpson voice>mmmmm Rubicon Unlimited mmm </Simpson voice>

Unfortunately that isn't in the budget. If I go this route I'll be looking for
an older Grand Cherokee. Like the one in your link, thanks.

Dean

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:22:04 GMT, "Chad Fraker" <sylvanis@wi.rr.com> wrote:

>Have the 3 of you tried sitting in an Unlimited TJ?
>
>my wife had a 99 Grand Cherokee Limited. It was a sweet ride in stock. The
>seats were really comfortable and made for a relaxing ride. From everything
>I've seen, most of the Grands that I've seen that areset up for trail rides
>were the ZJ's ( http://www.off-road.com/jeep/grand/r...ll/3lift01.jpg )
>
>
>
>"Dean" <no.email @ papernapkin.net> wrote in message
>news:j2jeu0dpgr6h4v4lqgksa1gjvveape1kbn@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> For all you young parents out there don't blink cause that baby you're
>> lugging
>> around in a car seat is going to be huge in what seems like mere moments.
>> My
>> boy is as tall as his mom and still growing. The back seat of the TJ is
>> just
>> too small and we've got to figure something else out.
>>
>> My wife and I are talking about our options and one of our talking points
>> was
>> building a Grand Cherokee. Its got some pluses: backseat room, could be
>> more
>> comfortably driven to and from the trail (4 hour drives), and it would be
>> unique.
>>
>> But I'm concerned that a built Grand couldn't keep up with my group of
>> friends.
>> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/moab.htm
>> These are from Golden Spike in Moab. (my jeep is the one with the hard top
>> and
>> the kid in the shot has added 11/2 feet to his height.) When all is said
>> and
>> done I'm looking to build a Moab rock crawler that can run the 4+ trails
>> all day
>> long and still drive home at night. This won't be my daily driver, but a
>> weekender that might be driven to work occasionally.
>>
>> Anybody here driving Grands like Jeeps? Any suggestions as to the best
>> years
>> and engines between 1993 and 1999? Links, experiences, stories?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Dean
>

Re: My kids' out grown the TJ
 

<Homer Simpson voice>mmmmm Rubicon Unlimited mmm </Simpson voice>

Unfortunately that isn't in the budget. If I go this route I'll be looking for
an older Grand Cherokee. Like the one in your link, thanks.

Dean

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:22:04 GMT, "Chad Fraker" <sylvanis@wi.rr.com> wrote:

>Have the 3 of you tried sitting in an Unlimited TJ?
>
>my wife had a 99 Grand Cherokee Limited. It was a sweet ride in stock. The
>seats were really comfortable and made for a relaxing ride. From everything
>I've seen, most of the Grands that I've seen that areset up for trail rides
>were the ZJ's ( http://www.off-road.com/jeep/grand/r...ll/3lift01.jpg )
>
>
>
>"Dean" <no.email @ papernapkin.net> wrote in message
>news:j2jeu0dpgr6h4v4lqgksa1gjvveape1kbn@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> For all you young parents out there don't blink cause that baby you're
>> lugging
>> around in a car seat is going to be huge in what seems like mere moments.
>> My
>> boy is as tall as his mom and still growing. The back seat of the TJ is
>> just
>> too small and we've got to figure something else out.
>>
>> My wife and I are talking about our options and one of our talking points
>> was
>> building a Grand Cherokee. Its got some pluses: backseat room, could be
>> more
>> comfortably driven to and from the trail (4 hour drives), and it would be
>> unique.
>>
>> But I'm concerned that a built Grand couldn't keep up with my group of
>> friends.
>> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/moab.htm
>> These are from Golden Spike in Moab. (my jeep is the one with the hard top
>> and
>> the kid in the shot has added 11/2 feet to his height.) When all is said
>> and
>> done I'm looking to build a Moab rock crawler that can run the 4+ trails
>> all day
>> long and still drive home at night. This won't be my daily driver, but a
>> weekender that might be driven to work occasionally.
>>
>> Anybody here driving Grands like Jeeps? Any suggestions as to the best
>> years
>> and engines between 1993 and 1999? Links, experiences, stories?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Dean
>

Re: My kids' out grown the TJ
 

This was on a local board in AZ, so there is no rust.

Joe, is a good mechanic and keeps his vehicles in top shape.
---------
Here it is again.....98 5.9 Limited ZJ For Sale 85,xxx Miles, Budget Boost,
265/75/16 Bfg All-terrains 85% tread, MP Performance Computer, Alpine XM
radio. Clean, Want 10K for it...Its going on E-bay and the auto trader Next
Week.

Joe
----------

Let me know if you want more information.
If you have been in a TJ, this Jeep will seem like a rocket.

--James

"Dean" <no.email @ papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:j2jeu0dpgr6h4v4lqgksa1gjvveape1kbn@4ax.com...
>
> For all you young parents out there don't blink cause that baby you're
> lugging
> around in a car seat is going to be huge in what seems like mere moments.
> My
> boy is as tall as his mom and still growing. The back seat of the TJ is
> just
> too small and we've got to figure something else out.
>
> My wife and I are talking about our options and one of our talking points
> was
> building a Grand Cherokee. Its got some pluses: backseat room, could be
> more
> comfortably driven to and from the trail (4 hour drives), and it would be
> unique.
>
> But I'm concerned that a built Grand couldn't keep up with my group of
> friends.
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/moab.htm
> These are from Golden Spike in Moab. (my jeep is the one with the hard top
> and
> the kid in the shot has added 11/2 feet to his height.) When all is said
> and
> done I'm looking to build a Moab rock crawler that can run the 4+ trails
> all day
> long and still drive home at night. This won't be my daily driver, but a
> weekender that might be driven to work occasionally.
>
> Anybody here driving Grands like Jeeps? Any suggestions as to the best
> years
> and engines between 1993 and 1999? Links, experiences, stories?
>
> Thanks
> Dean

Re: My kids' out grown the TJ
 

This was on a local board in AZ, so there is no rust.

Joe, is a good mechanic and keeps his vehicles in top shape.
---------
Here it is again.....98 5.9 Limited ZJ For Sale 85,xxx Miles, Budget Boost,
265/75/16 Bfg All-terrains 85% tread, MP Performance Computer, Alpine XM
radio. Clean, Want 10K for it...Its going on E-bay and the auto trader Next
Week.

Joe
----------

Let me know if you want more information.
If you have been in a TJ, this Jeep will seem like a rocket.

--James

"Dean" <no.email @ papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:j2jeu0dpgr6h4v4lqgksa1gjvveape1kbn@4ax.com...
>
> For all you young parents out there don't blink cause that baby you're
> lugging
> around in a car seat is going to be huge in what seems like mere moments.
> My
> boy is as tall as his mom and still growing. The back seat of the TJ is
> just
> too small and we've got to figure something else out.
>
> My wife and I are talking about our options and one of our talking points
> was
> building a Grand Cherokee. Its got some pluses: backseat room, could be
> more
> comfortably driven to and from the trail (4 hour drives), and it would be
> unique.
>
> But I'm concerned that a built Grand couldn't keep up with my group of
> friends.
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/moab.htm
> These are from Golden Spike in Moab. (my jeep is the one with the hard top
> and
> the kid in the shot has added 11/2 feet to his height.) When all is said
> and
> done I'm looking to build a Moab rock crawler that can run the 4+ trails
> all day
> long and still drive home at night. This won't be my daily driver, but a
> weekender that might be driven to work occasionally.
>
> Anybody here driving Grands like Jeeps? Any suggestions as to the best
> years
> and engines between 1993 and 1999? Links, experiences, stories?
>
> Thanks
> Dean

Re: My kids' out grown the TJ
 

This was on a local board in AZ, so there is no rust.

Joe, is a good mechanic and keeps his vehicles in top shape.
---------
Here it is again.....98 5.9 Limited ZJ For Sale 85,xxx Miles, Budget Boost,
265/75/16 Bfg All-terrains 85% tread, MP Performance Computer, Alpine XM
radio. Clean, Want 10K for it...Its going on E-bay and the auto trader Next
Week.

Joe
----------

Let me know if you want more information.
If you have been in a TJ, this Jeep will seem like a rocket.

--James

"Dean" <no.email @ papernapkin.net> wrote in message
news:j2jeu0dpgr6h4v4lqgksa1gjvveape1kbn@4ax.com...
>
> For all you young parents out there don't blink cause that baby you're
> lugging
> around in a car seat is going to be huge in what seems like mere moments.
> My
> boy is as tall as his mom and still growing. The back seat of the TJ is
> just
> too small and we've got to figure something else out.
>
> My wife and I are talking about our options and one of our talking points
> was
> building a Grand Cherokee. Its got some pluses: backseat room, could be
> more
> comfortably driven to and from the trail (4 hour drives), and it would be
> unique.
>
> But I'm concerned that a built Grand couldn't keep up with my group of
> friends.
> http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/jeep/moab.htm
> These are from Golden Spike in Moab. (my jeep is the one with the hard top
> and
> the kid in the shot has added 11/2 feet to his height.) When all is said
> and
> done I'm looking to build a Moab rock crawler that can run the 4+ trails
> all day
> long and still drive home at night. This won't be my daily driver, but a
> weekender that might be driven to work occasionally.
>
> Anybody here driving Grands like Jeeps? Any suggestions as to the best
> years
> and engines between 1993 and 1999? Links, experiences, stories?
>
> Thanks
> Dean