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wrench 12-17-2005 12:09 AM

Re: My cj7 will not start
 
The Carb is an after market Weber.....trust me I'm out of town right
now but i will be spenting my chistmas and boxing day under the
jeep......thanks for tha advice hopefully everything will go
fine..........ah do I miss driving it........My Jeep has some blow by
could this be causing the problem


Mike Romain 12-17-2005 09:32 AM

Re: My cj7 will not start
 
wrench wrote:
>
> The Carb is an after market Weber.....trust me I'm out of town right
> now but i will be spenting my chistmas and boxing day under the
> jeep......thanks for tha advice hopefully everything will go
> fine..........ah do I miss driving it........My Jeep has some blow by
> could this be causing the problem


It could very well be related.

What did you do with the gas tank vent when the carb was swapped?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 12-17-2005 09:32 AM

Re: My cj7 will not start
 
wrench wrote:
>
> The Carb is an after market Weber.....trust me I'm out of town right
> now but i will be spenting my chistmas and boxing day under the
> jeep......thanks for tha advice hopefully everything will go
> fine..........ah do I miss driving it........My Jeep has some blow by
> could this be causing the problem


It could very well be related.

What did you do with the gas tank vent when the carb was swapped?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 12-17-2005 09:32 AM

Re: My cj7 will not start
 
wrench wrote:
>
> The Carb is an after market Weber.....trust me I'm out of town right
> now but i will be spenting my chistmas and boxing day under the
> jeep......thanks for tha advice hopefully everything will go
> fine..........ah do I miss driving it........My Jeep has some blow by
> could this be causing the problem


It could very well be related.

What did you do with the gas tank vent when the carb was swapped?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Rod's news 12-19-2005 12:58 AM

Re: My cj7 will not start
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43A35942.BCB482E8@sympatico.ca...
> Bingo!
>
> It is 'usually' called a Carter or just a BBD.
>
> The Weber folks talk about is a 32/36 or something like that.


Yes ..... I've seen adverts for that line ...... but I assumed this to be a
very different carb ... i.e. sans bowl, float etc. ?????? - and do you know
if the carb initially in question here was w or w/o stepper ??

>
> It doesn't have idle tube issues....


Most folks have no idea just how profound a statement that really is :)


>
> Mike
>
> Rod's news wrote:
>>
>> I see there's many a reference now to, "Carter_Weber_BBD"
>>
>> "Rod's news" <rod.gram@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:ZaHof.125731$Gd6.123774@pd7tw3no...
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:43A33581.A54FEDAE@sympatico.ca...
>> >> Totally different carb.
>> >
>> > Really ?????
>> >
>> >
>> > Most folks don't call the stock BBD a Weber
>> >> although mine is.....
>> >
>> > Mine as well.
>> >
>> > What IS the carb the guy is referringf to.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
>> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >>
>> >> Rod's news wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> "wrench" <mattmalnarich@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:1134717018.863702.204760@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> >>> > So...Last winter my jeep started stalling at different times. It
>> >>> > has
>> >>> > the 258 I6 with a weber carb. It was orginally rom califorina. I
>> >>> > started by replacing fuel filter spark plugs pvc valve distbuter
>> >>> > cap
>> >>> > and plug wires. When it stalls it is when I'm driving usually
>> >>> > sometimes it stalls at lights. When I'm idling if I keep the rpms
>> >>> > up
>> >>> > sometimes that will help.....
>> >>>
>> >>> sounds like the classic case of debris in the Weber. There are some
>> >>> fix_its
>> >>> described several places on the net. One of them involves drilling
>> >>> the
>> >>> venturi ports (here is a description for cleaning them .,....... but
>> >>> if
>> >>> you
>> >>> follow this protocol and exchange the piano wire push for drilling
>> >>> slightly
>> >>> oversized, it is identical to the www sites decribing the
>> >>> over_drilling
>> >>> procedure).
>> >>>
>> >>> see at:
>> >>> http://www.jeeptech.com/wiki/index.php/Engine/Carter
>> >
>> >




Rod's news 12-19-2005 12:58 AM

Re: My cj7 will not start
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43A35942.BCB482E8@sympatico.ca...
> Bingo!
>
> It is 'usually' called a Carter or just a BBD.
>
> The Weber folks talk about is a 32/36 or something like that.


Yes ..... I've seen adverts for that line ...... but I assumed this to be a
very different carb ... i.e. sans bowl, float etc. ?????? - and do you know
if the carb initially in question here was w or w/o stepper ??

>
> It doesn't have idle tube issues....


Most folks have no idea just how profound a statement that really is :)


>
> Mike
>
> Rod's news wrote:
>>
>> I see there's many a reference now to, "Carter_Weber_BBD"
>>
>> "Rod's news" <rod.gram@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:ZaHof.125731$Gd6.123774@pd7tw3no...
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:43A33581.A54FEDAE@sympatico.ca...
>> >> Totally different carb.
>> >
>> > Really ?????
>> >
>> >
>> > Most folks don't call the stock BBD a Weber
>> >> although mine is.....
>> >
>> > Mine as well.
>> >
>> > What IS the carb the guy is referringf to.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
>> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >>
>> >> Rod's news wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> "wrench" <mattmalnarich@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:1134717018.863702.204760@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> >>> > So...Last winter my jeep started stalling at different times. It
>> >>> > has
>> >>> > the 258 I6 with a weber carb. It was orginally rom califorina. I
>> >>> > started by replacing fuel filter spark plugs pvc valve distbuter
>> >>> > cap
>> >>> > and plug wires. When it stalls it is when I'm driving usually
>> >>> > sometimes it stalls at lights. When I'm idling if I keep the rpms
>> >>> > up
>> >>> > sometimes that will help.....
>> >>>
>> >>> sounds like the classic case of debris in the Weber. There are some
>> >>> fix_its
>> >>> described several places on the net. One of them involves drilling
>> >>> the
>> >>> venturi ports (here is a description for cleaning them .,....... but
>> >>> if
>> >>> you
>> >>> follow this protocol and exchange the piano wire push for drilling
>> >>> slightly
>> >>> oversized, it is identical to the www sites decribing the
>> >>> over_drilling
>> >>> procedure).
>> >>>
>> >>> see at:
>> >>> http://www.jeeptech.com/wiki/index.php/Engine/Carter
>> >
>> >




Rod's news 12-19-2005 12:58 AM

Re: My cj7 will not start
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43A35942.BCB482E8@sympatico.ca...
> Bingo!
>
> It is 'usually' called a Carter or just a BBD.
>
> The Weber folks talk about is a 32/36 or something like that.


Yes ..... I've seen adverts for that line ...... but I assumed this to be a
very different carb ... i.e. sans bowl, float etc. ?????? - and do you know
if the carb initially in question here was w or w/o stepper ??

>
> It doesn't have idle tube issues....


Most folks have no idea just how profound a statement that really is :)


>
> Mike
>
> Rod's news wrote:
>>
>> I see there's many a reference now to, "Carter_Weber_BBD"
>>
>> "Rod's news" <rod.gram@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:ZaHof.125731$Gd6.123774@pd7tw3no...
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:43A33581.A54FEDAE@sympatico.ca...
>> >> Totally different carb.
>> >
>> > Really ?????
>> >
>> >
>> > Most folks don't call the stock BBD a Weber
>> >> although mine is.....
>> >
>> > Mine as well.
>> >
>> > What IS the carb the guy is referringf to.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
>> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >>
>> >> Rod's news wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> "wrench" <mattmalnarich@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:1134717018.863702.204760@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> >>> > So...Last winter my jeep started stalling at different times. It
>> >>> > has
>> >>> > the 258 I6 with a weber carb. It was orginally rom califorina. I
>> >>> > started by replacing fuel filter spark plugs pvc valve distbuter
>> >>> > cap
>> >>> > and plug wires. When it stalls it is when I'm driving usually
>> >>> > sometimes it stalls at lights. When I'm idling if I keep the rpms
>> >>> > up
>> >>> > sometimes that will help.....
>> >>>
>> >>> sounds like the classic case of debris in the Weber. There are some
>> >>> fix_its
>> >>> described several places on the net. One of them involves drilling
>> >>> the
>> >>> venturi ports (here is a description for cleaning them .,....... but
>> >>> if
>> >>> you
>> >>> follow this protocol and exchange the piano wire push for drilling
>> >>> slightly
>> >>> oversized, it is identical to the www sites decribing the
>> >>> over_drilling
>> >>> procedure).
>> >>>
>> >>> see at:
>> >>> http://www.jeeptech.com/wiki/index.php/Engine/Carter
>> >
>> >




Mike Romain 12-19-2005 09:06 AM

Re: My cj7 will not start
 
He stated it was the aftermarket Weber he has on it.

Mike

Rod's news wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43A35942.BCB482E8@sympatico.ca...
> > Bingo!
> >
> > It is 'usually' called a Carter or just a BBD.
> >
> > The Weber folks talk about is a 32/36 or something like that.

>
> Yes ..... I've seen adverts for that line ...... but I assumed this to be a
> very different carb ... i.e. sans bowl, float etc. ?????? - and do you know
> if the carb initially in question here was w or w/o stepper ??
>
> >
> > It doesn't have idle tube issues....

>
> Most folks have no idea just how profound a statement that really is :)
>
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Rod's news wrote:
> >>
> >> I see there's many a reference now to, "Carter_Weber_BBD"
> >>
> >> "Rod's news" <rod.gram@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:ZaHof.125731$Gd6.123774@pd7tw3no...
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:43A33581.A54FEDAE@sympatico.ca...
> >> >> Totally different carb.
> >> >
> >> > Really ?????
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Most folks don't call the stock BBD a Weber
> >> >> although mine is.....
> >> >
> >> > Mine as well.
> >> >
> >> > What IS the carb the guy is referringf to.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> >> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> >> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> >>
> >> >> Rod's news wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "wrench" <mattmalnarich@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:1134717018.863702.204760@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >> >>> > So...Last winter my jeep started stalling at different times. It
> >> >>> > has
> >> >>> > the 258 I6 with a weber carb. It was orginally rom califorina. I
> >> >>> > started by replacing fuel filter spark plugs pvc valve distbuter
> >> >>> > cap
> >> >>> > and plug wires. When it stalls it is when I'm driving usually
> >> >>> > sometimes it stalls at lights. When I'm idling if I keep the rpms
> >> >>> > up
> >> >>> > sometimes that will help.....
> >> >>>
> >> >>> sounds like the classic case of debris in the Weber. There are some
> >> >>> fix_its
> >> >>> described several places on the net. One of them involves drilling
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> venturi ports (here is a description for cleaning them .,....... but
> >> >>> if
> >> >>> you
> >> >>> follow this protocol and exchange the piano wire push for drilling
> >> >>> slightly
> >> >>> oversized, it is identical to the www sites decribing the
> >> >>> over_drilling
> >> >>> procedure).
> >> >>>
> >> >>> see at:
> >> >>> http://www.jeeptech.com/wiki/index.php/Engine/Carter
> >> >
> >> >


Mike Romain 12-19-2005 09:06 AM

Re: My cj7 will not start
 
He stated it was the aftermarket Weber he has on it.

Mike

Rod's news wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43A35942.BCB482E8@sympatico.ca...
> > Bingo!
> >
> > It is 'usually' called a Carter or just a BBD.
> >
> > The Weber folks talk about is a 32/36 or something like that.

>
> Yes ..... I've seen adverts for that line ...... but I assumed this to be a
> very different carb ... i.e. sans bowl, float etc. ?????? - and do you know
> if the carb initially in question here was w or w/o stepper ??
>
> >
> > It doesn't have idle tube issues....

>
> Most folks have no idea just how profound a statement that really is :)
>
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Rod's news wrote:
> >>
> >> I see there's many a reference now to, "Carter_Weber_BBD"
> >>
> >> "Rod's news" <rod.gram@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:ZaHof.125731$Gd6.123774@pd7tw3no...
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:43A33581.A54FEDAE@sympatico.ca...
> >> >> Totally different carb.
> >> >
> >> > Really ?????
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Most folks don't call the stock BBD a Weber
> >> >> although mine is.....
> >> >
> >> > Mine as well.
> >> >
> >> > What IS the carb the guy is referringf to.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> >> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> >> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> >>
> >> >> Rod's news wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "wrench" <mattmalnarich@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:1134717018.863702.204760@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >> >>> > So...Last winter my jeep started stalling at different times. It
> >> >>> > has
> >> >>> > the 258 I6 with a weber carb. It was orginally rom califorina. I
> >> >>> > started by replacing fuel filter spark plugs pvc valve distbuter
> >> >>> > cap
> >> >>> > and plug wires. When it stalls it is when I'm driving usually
> >> >>> > sometimes it stalls at lights. When I'm idling if I keep the rpms
> >> >>> > up
> >> >>> > sometimes that will help.....
> >> >>>
> >> >>> sounds like the classic case of debris in the Weber. There are some
> >> >>> fix_its
> >> >>> described several places on the net. One of them involves drilling
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> venturi ports (here is a description for cleaning them .,....... but
> >> >>> if
> >> >>> you
> >> >>> follow this protocol and exchange the piano wire push for drilling
> >> >>> slightly
> >> >>> oversized, it is identical to the www sites decribing the
> >> >>> over_drilling
> >> >>> procedure).
> >> >>>
> >> >>> see at:
> >> >>> http://www.jeeptech.com/wiki/index.php/Engine/Carter
> >> >
> >> >


Mike Romain 12-19-2005 09:06 AM

Re: My cj7 will not start
 
He stated it was the aftermarket Weber he has on it.

Mike

Rod's news wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43A35942.BCB482E8@sympatico.ca...
> > Bingo!
> >
> > It is 'usually' called a Carter or just a BBD.
> >
> > The Weber folks talk about is a 32/36 or something like that.

>
> Yes ..... I've seen adverts for that line ...... but I assumed this to be a
> very different carb ... i.e. sans bowl, float etc. ?????? - and do you know
> if the carb initially in question here was w or w/o stepper ??
>
> >
> > It doesn't have idle tube issues....

>
> Most folks have no idea just how profound a statement that really is :)
>
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Rod's news wrote:
> >>
> >> I see there's many a reference now to, "Carter_Weber_BBD"
> >>
> >> "Rod's news" <rod.gram@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:ZaHof.125731$Gd6.123774@pd7tw3no...
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:43A33581.A54FEDAE@sympatico.ca...
> >> >> Totally different carb.
> >> >
> >> > Really ?????
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Most folks don't call the stock BBD a Weber
> >> >> although mine is.....
> >> >
> >> > Mine as well.
> >> >
> >> > What IS the carb the guy is referringf to.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> >> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> >> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> >>
> >> >> Rod's news wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "wrench" <mattmalnarich@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:1134717018.863702.204760@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >> >>> > So...Last winter my jeep started stalling at different times. It
> >> >>> > has
> >> >>> > the 258 I6 with a weber carb. It was orginally rom califorina. I
> >> >>> > started by replacing fuel filter spark plugs pvc valve distbuter
> >> >>> > cap
> >> >>> > and plug wires. When it stalls it is when I'm driving usually
> >> >>> > sometimes it stalls at lights. When I'm idling if I keep the rpms
> >> >>> > up
> >> >>> > sometimes that will help.....
> >> >>>
> >> >>> sounds like the classic case of debris in the Weber. There are some
> >> >>> fix_its
> >> >>> described several places on the net. One of them involves drilling
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> venturi ports (here is a description for cleaning them .,....... but
> >> >>> if
> >> >>> you
> >> >>> follow this protocol and exchange the piano wire push for drilling
> >> >>> slightly
> >> >>> oversized, it is identical to the www sites decribing the
> >> >>> over_drilling
> >> >>> procedure).
> >> >>>
> >> >>> see at:
> >> >>> http://www.jeeptech.com/wiki/index.php/Engine/Carter
> >> >
> >> >



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