Re: "Modification" Of Catalytic Converter ??
 

Well... Chrysler screwed up the programming on some of the computers.
I'm pretty sure my cat is bad (it rattled like crazy for a couple of
months then stooped at around 100k miles) but the check engine light
never came on until about 250k, when it started coming on
intermittently. When I had the engine replaced at 300k they scanned it
and told me the rear 02 sensor was bad, so I replaced it and the light
went out.

Then I get a recall notice from Chrysler that they want me to bring the
Jeep in so they can reflash the computer and replace the cat if it was
rattling. It seems the computers weren't picking up failing cats, and
no , they wouldn't replace the converter if it had been rattling but
stopped.

So if I took it in for the recall I would have driven in with a healthy
Jeep and driven out with the Check Engine light on.

Needless to say I didn't take it in!

So if the Jeep the OP was looking at was effected by this same problem
it could very well be that the check engine light never came on.

Jeff DeWitt

Jerry Bransford wrote:
> There is likely to be an 02 sensor after the cat, even my '97 has an 02
> sensor mounted into the cat at the tail-end of it. That 02 sensor's job
> is to check for proper 02 sensor function so I'm surprised there's no
> Check Engine light.
>

Re: "Modification" Of Catalytic Converter ??
 

On Mon, 07 May 2007 00:06:56 -0400, Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com>
wrote:

>Well... Chrysler screwed up the programming on some of the computers.
>I'm pretty sure my cat is bad (it rattled like crazy for a couple of
>months then stooped at around 100k miles) but the check engine light
>never came on until about 250k, when it started coming on
>intermittently. When I had the engine replaced at 300k they scanned it
>and told me the rear 02 sensor was bad, so I replaced it and the light
>went out.
>
>Then I get a recall notice from Chrysler that they want me to bring the
>Jeep in so they can reflash the computer and replace the cat if it was
>rattling. It seems the computers weren't picking up failing cats, and
>no , they wouldn't replace the converter if it had been rattling but
>stopped.
>
>So if I took it in for the recall I would have driven in with a healthy
>Jeep and driven out with the Check Engine light on.
>
>Needless to say I didn't take it in!

And the loser here is you. Read the recall. The warranty on the cat is
extended 12 months or 12,000 miles from the date the recall is
performed. If the light comes on within that time, and it's a cat
efficiency fault, the cat will be replaced.

Quit whining about it and get it done.

>
>So if the Jeep the OP was looking at was effected by this same problem
>it could very well be that the check engine light never came on.
>
>Jeff DeWitt
>
>Jerry Bransford wrote:
>> There is likely to be an 02 sensor after the cat, even my '97 has an 02
>> sensor mounted into the cat at the tail-end of it. That 02 sensor's job
>> is to check for proper 02 sensor function so I'm surprised there's no
>> Check Engine light.
>>

Re: "Modification" Of Catalytic Converter ??
 

On Mon, 07 May 2007 00:06:56 -0400, Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com>
wrote:

>Well... Chrysler screwed up the programming on some of the computers.
>I'm pretty sure my cat is bad (it rattled like crazy for a couple of
>months then stooped at around 100k miles) but the check engine light
>never came on until about 250k, when it started coming on
>intermittently. When I had the engine replaced at 300k they scanned it
>and told me the rear 02 sensor was bad, so I replaced it and the light
>went out.
>
>Then I get a recall notice from Chrysler that they want me to bring the
>Jeep in so they can reflash the computer and replace the cat if it was
>rattling. It seems the computers weren't picking up failing cats, and
>no , they wouldn't replace the converter if it had been rattling but
>stopped.
>
>So if I took it in for the recall I would have driven in with a healthy
>Jeep and driven out with the Check Engine light on.
>
>Needless to say I didn't take it in!

And the loser here is you. Read the recall. The warranty on the cat is
extended 12 months or 12,000 miles from the date the recall is
performed. If the light comes on within that time, and it's a cat
efficiency fault, the cat will be replaced.

Quit whining about it and get it done.

>
>So if the Jeep the OP was looking at was effected by this same problem
>it could very well be that the check engine light never came on.
>
>Jeff DeWitt
>
>Jerry Bransford wrote:
>> There is likely to be an 02 sensor after the cat, even my '97 has an 02
>> sensor mounted into the cat at the tail-end of it. That 02 sensor's job
>> is to check for proper 02 sensor function so I'm surprised there's no
>> Check Engine light.
>>

Re: "Modification" Of Catalytic Converter ??
 

On Mon, 07 May 2007 00:06:56 -0400, Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com>
wrote:

>Well... Chrysler screwed up the programming on some of the computers.
>I'm pretty sure my cat is bad (it rattled like crazy for a couple of
>months then stooped at around 100k miles) but the check engine light
>never came on until about 250k, when it started coming on
>intermittently. When I had the engine replaced at 300k they scanned it
>and told me the rear 02 sensor was bad, so I replaced it and the light
>went out.
>
>Then I get a recall notice from Chrysler that they want me to bring the
>Jeep in so they can reflash the computer and replace the cat if it was
>rattling. It seems the computers weren't picking up failing cats, and
>no , they wouldn't replace the converter if it had been rattling but
>stopped.
>
>So if I took it in for the recall I would have driven in with a healthy
>Jeep and driven out with the Check Engine light on.
>
>Needless to say I didn't take it in!

And the loser here is you. Read the recall. The warranty on the cat is
extended 12 months or 12,000 miles from the date the recall is
performed. If the light comes on within that time, and it's a cat
efficiency fault, the cat will be replaced.

Quit whining about it and get it done.

>
>So if the Jeep the OP was looking at was effected by this same problem
>it could very well be that the check engine light never came on.
>
>Jeff DeWitt
>
>Jerry Bransford wrote:
>> There is likely to be an 02 sensor after the cat, even my '97 has an 02
>> sensor mounted into the cat at the tail-end of it. That 02 sensor's job
>> is to check for proper 02 sensor function so I'm surprised there's no
>> Check Engine light.
>>

Re: "Modification" Of Catalytic Converter ??
 

On Mon, 07 May 2007 00:06:56 -0400, Jeff DeWitt <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com>
wrote:

>Well... Chrysler screwed up the programming on some of the computers.
>I'm pretty sure my cat is bad (it rattled like crazy for a couple of
>months then stooped at around 100k miles) but the check engine light
>never came on until about 250k, when it started coming on
>intermittently. When I had the engine replaced at 300k they scanned it
>and told me the rear 02 sensor was bad, so I replaced it and the light
>went out.
>
>Then I get a recall notice from Chrysler that they want me to bring the
>Jeep in so they can reflash the computer and replace the cat if it was
>rattling. It seems the computers weren't picking up failing cats, and
>no , they wouldn't replace the converter if it had been rattling but
>stopped.
>
>So if I took it in for the recall I would have driven in with a healthy
>Jeep and driven out with the Check Engine light on.
>
>Needless to say I didn't take it in!

And the loser here is you. Read the recall. The warranty on the cat is
extended 12 months or 12,000 miles from the date the recall is
performed. If the light comes on within that time, and it's a cat
efficiency fault, the cat will be replaced.

Quit whining about it and get it done.

>
>So if the Jeep the OP was looking at was effected by this same problem
>it could very well be that the check engine light never came on.
>
>Jeff DeWitt
>
>Jerry Bransford wrote:
>> There is likely to be an 02 sensor after the cat, even my '97 has an 02
>> sensor mounted into the cat at the tail-end of it. That 02 sensor's job
>> is to check for proper 02 sensor function so I'm surprised there's no
>> Check Engine light.
>>

Re: "Modification" Of Catalytic Converter ??
 

I'm with you, the last time I bought a converter it was under seventy
bucks, but now they're stealing them here in God's Country, like the used to
the air bags, costing the victim close to six hundred bucks. At least pick
it up for the person he may sell it to. Probably that's why it's not
rattling it's already blown out the guts setting fires all along the way.
And would surely fail a SMOG test on transfer.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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"bllsht" <nospam@dot.net> wrote in message
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>
> And the loser here is you. Read the recall. The warranty on the cat is
> extended 12 months or 12,000 miles from the date the recall is
> performed. If the light comes on within that time, and it's a cat
> efficiency fault, the cat will be replaced.
>
> Quit whining about it and get it done.



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Re: "Modification" Of Catalytic Converter ??
 

I'm with you, the last time I bought a converter it was under seventy
bucks, but now they're stealing them here in God's Country, like the used to
the air bags, costing the victim close to six hundred bucks. At least pick
it up for the person he may sell it to. Probably that's why it's not
rattling it's already blown out the guts setting fires all along the way.
And would surely fail a SMOG test on transfer.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"bllsht" <nospam@dot.net> wrote in message
news:nqht33ddmq36asdulhr8qvlkrn91t68p49@4ax.com
>
> And the loser here is you. Read the recall. The warranty on the cat is
> extended 12 months or 12,000 miles from the date the recall is
> performed. If the light comes on within that time, and it's a cat
> efficiency fault, the cat will be replaced.
>
> Quit whining about it and get it done.



--
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Re: "Modification" Of Catalytic Converter ??
 

I'm with you, the last time I bought a converter it was under seventy
bucks, but now they're stealing them here in God's Country, like the used to
the air bags, costing the victim close to six hundred bucks. At least pick
it up for the person he may sell it to. Probably that's why it's not
rattling it's already blown out the guts setting fires all along the way.
And would surely fail a SMOG test on transfer.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"bllsht" <nospam@dot.net> wrote in message
news:nqht33ddmq36asdulhr8qvlkrn91t68p49@4ax.com
>
> And the loser here is you. Read the recall. The warranty on the cat is
> extended 12 months or 12,000 miles from the date the recall is
> performed. If the light comes on within that time, and it's a cat
> efficiency fault, the cat will be replaced.
>
> Quit whining about it and get it done.



--
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Re: "Modification" Of Catalytic Converter ??
 

I'm with you, the last time I bought a converter it was under seventy
bucks, but now they're stealing them here in God's Country, like the used to
the air bags, costing the victim close to six hundred bucks. At least pick
it up for the person he may sell it to. Probably that's why it's not
rattling it's already blown out the guts setting fires all along the way.
And would surely fail a SMOG test on transfer.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"bllsht" <nospam@dot.net> wrote in message
news:nqht33ddmq36asdulhr8qvlkrn91t68p49@4ax.com
>
> And the loser here is you. Read the recall. The warranty on the cat is
> extended 12 months or 12,000 miles from the date the recall is
> performed. If the light comes on within that time, and it's a cat
> efficiency fault, the cat will be replaced.
>
> Quit whining about it and get it done.



--
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Re: Re: "Modification" Of Catalytic Converter ??
 

On Sat, 05 May 2007 23:00:18 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
<crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:

>Run, do not walk to the nearest exit. Do not look back.

Yes, and as fast as you can too.
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