Mike or Bill or ane else wanna spell it out......
For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
I want to change to 258/T5/D300. Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just researching this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 days or so. Anyone????? Thanks In Advance JT LV,NV |
Re: Mike or Bill or ane else wanna spell it out......
You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? Can you rebuild
it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five speed, overdrive? Because the switch remains American, more than likely the bellhousing hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft length may remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely have change over the year differences, but you should be able to use yours. So probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you hooked up. You didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough compatibility via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Fennidh wrote: > > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 > > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. > > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? > > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just researching > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 days or > so. > > Anyone????? > > Thanks In Advance > > JT > LV,NV |
Re: Mike or Bill or ane else wanna spell it out......
You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? Can you rebuild
it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five speed, overdrive? Because the switch remains American, more than likely the bellhousing hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft length may remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely have change over the year differences, but you should be able to use yours. So probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you hooked up. You didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough compatibility via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Fennidh wrote: > > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 > > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. > > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? > > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just researching > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 days or > so. > > Anyone????? > > Thanks In Advance > > JT > LV,NV |
Re: Mike or Bill or ane else wanna spell it out......
You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? Can you rebuild
it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five speed, overdrive? Because the switch remains American, more than likely the bellhousing hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft length may remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely have change over the year differences, but you should be able to use yours. So probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you hooked up. You didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough compatibility via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Fennidh wrote: > > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 > > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. > > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? > > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just researching > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 days or > so. > > Anyone????? > > Thanks In Advance > > JT > LV,NV |
Re: Mike or Bill or ane else wanna spell it out......
You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? Can you rebuild
it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five speed, overdrive? Because the switch remains American, more than likely the bellhousing hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft length may remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely have change over the year differences, but you should be able to use yours. So probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you hooked up. You didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough compatibility via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Fennidh wrote: > > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 > > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. > > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? > > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just researching > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 days or > so. > > Anyone????? > > Thanks In Advance > > JT > LV,NV |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.
Here it is again... It is a 1977 CJ 5. It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear is nothing special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal PITA on the highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major consideration. There is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really looking for a bit more top end with lower rpm. I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month or so, and don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a watch spring for that many hours. But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore refuse to give up my Jeep. I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? Can you rebuild | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five speed, overdrive? | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the bellhousing | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft length may | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely have change | over the year differences, but you should be able to use yours. So | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you hooked up. You | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough compatibility | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O | mailto:-------------------- | | Fennidh wrote: | > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 | > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. | > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? | > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just researching | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 days or | > so. | > | > Anyone????? | > | > Thanks In Advance | > | > JT | > LV,NV |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.
Here it is again... It is a 1977 CJ 5. It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear is nothing special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal PITA on the highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major consideration. There is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really looking for a bit more top end with lower rpm. I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month or so, and don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a watch spring for that many hours. But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore refuse to give up my Jeep. I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? Can you rebuild | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five speed, overdrive? | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the bellhousing | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft length may | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely have change | over the year differences, but you should be able to use yours. So | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you hooked up. You | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough compatibility | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O | mailto:-------------------- | | Fennidh wrote: | > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 | > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. | > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? | > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just researching | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 days or | > so. | > | > Anyone????? | > | > Thanks In Advance | > | > JT | > LV,NV |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.
Here it is again... It is a 1977 CJ 5. It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear is nothing special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal PITA on the highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major consideration. There is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really looking for a bit more top end with lower rpm. I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month or so, and don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a watch spring for that many hours. But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore refuse to give up my Jeep. I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? Can you rebuild | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five speed, overdrive? | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the bellhousing | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft length may | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely have change | over the year differences, but you should be able to use yours. So | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you hooked up. You | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough compatibility | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O | mailto:-------------------- | | Fennidh wrote: | > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 | > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. | > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? | > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just researching | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 days or | > so. | > | > Anyone????? | > | > Thanks In Advance | > | > JT | > LV,NV |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.
Here it is again... It is a 1977 CJ 5. It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear is nothing special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal PITA on the highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major consideration. There is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really looking for a bit more top end with lower rpm. I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month or so, and don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a watch spring for that many hours. But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore refuse to give up my Jeep. I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? Can you rebuild | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five speed, overdrive? | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the bellhousing | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft length may | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely have change | over the year differences, but you should be able to use yours. So | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you hooked up. You | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough compatibility | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O | mailto:-------------------- | | Fennidh wrote: | > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 | > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. | > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? | > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just researching | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 days or | > so. | > | > Anyone????? | > | > Thanks In Advance | > | > JT | > LV,NV |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
No problem, if mail to my personal box bothered me I wouldn't list
my address. Never heard of it, I just presumed all T nomenclatures were Borg Warner, not Mexican: http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/in...75_508_510&404 It uses it's own Bellhousing. So, you'll need everything form your donor car, maybe not the flywheel. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Fennidh wrote: > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button. > > Here it is again... > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear > is nothing > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal > PITA on the > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major > consideration. There > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really > looking for a > bit more top end with lower rpm. > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month > or so, and > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a > watch spring for > that many hours. > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore > refuse to give up > my Jeep. > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
No problem, if mail to my personal box bothered me I wouldn't list
my address. Never heard of it, I just presumed all T nomenclatures were Borg Warner, not Mexican: http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/in...75_508_510&404 It uses it's own Bellhousing. So, you'll need everything form your donor car, maybe not the flywheel. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Fennidh wrote: > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button. > > Here it is again... > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear > is nothing > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal > PITA on the > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major > consideration. There > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really > looking for a > bit more top end with lower rpm. > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month > or so, and > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a > watch spring for > that many hours. > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore > refuse to give up > my Jeep. > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
No problem, if mail to my personal box bothered me I wouldn't list
my address. Never heard of it, I just presumed all T nomenclatures were Borg Warner, not Mexican: http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/in...75_508_510&404 It uses it's own Bellhousing. So, you'll need everything form your donor car, maybe not the flywheel. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Fennidh wrote: > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button. > > Here it is again... > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear > is nothing > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal > PITA on the > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major > consideration. There > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really > looking for a > bit more top end with lower rpm. > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month > or so, and > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a > watch spring for > that many hours. > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore > refuse to give up > my Jeep. > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
No problem, if mail to my personal box bothered me I wouldn't list
my address. Never heard of it, I just presumed all T nomenclatures were Borg Warner, not Mexican: http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/in...75_508_510&404 It uses it's own Bellhousing. So, you'll need everything form your donor car, maybe not the flywheel. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Fennidh wrote: > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button. > > Here it is again... > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear > is nothing > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal > PITA on the > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major > consideration. There > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really > looking for a > bit more top end with lower rpm. > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month > or so, and > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a > watch spring for > that many hours. > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore > refuse to give up > my Jeep. > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
It should just fit right in if you get the Jeep T-5.
Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Fennidh wrote: > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button. > > Here it is again... > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear > is nothing > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal > PITA on the > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major > consideration. There > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really > looking for a > bit more top end with lower rpm. > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month > or so, and > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a > watch spring for > that many hours. > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore > refuse to give up > my Jeep. > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? > Can you rebuild > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five > speed, overdrive? > | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the > bellhousing > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft > length may > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely > have change > | over the year differences, but you should be able to use > yours. So > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you > hooked up. You > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough > compatibility > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > | mailto:-------------------- > | > | Fennidh wrote: > | > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 > | > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. > | > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? > | > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just > researching > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 > days or > | > so. > | > > | > Anyone????? > | > > | > Thanks In Advance > | > > | > JT > | > LV,NV |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
It should just fit right in if you get the Jeep T-5.
Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Fennidh wrote: > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button. > > Here it is again... > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear > is nothing > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal > PITA on the > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major > consideration. There > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really > looking for a > bit more top end with lower rpm. > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month > or so, and > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a > watch spring for > that many hours. > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore > refuse to give up > my Jeep. > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? > Can you rebuild > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five > speed, overdrive? > | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the > bellhousing > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft > length may > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely > have change > | over the year differences, but you should be able to use > yours. So > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you > hooked up. You > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough > compatibility > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > | mailto:-------------------- > | > | Fennidh wrote: > | > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 > | > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. > | > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? > | > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just > researching > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 > days or > | > so. > | > > | > Anyone????? > | > > | > Thanks In Advance > | > > | > JT > | > LV,NV |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
It should just fit right in if you get the Jeep T-5.
Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Fennidh wrote: > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button. > > Here it is again... > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear > is nothing > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal > PITA on the > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major > consideration. There > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really > looking for a > bit more top end with lower rpm. > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month > or so, and > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a > watch spring for > that many hours. > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore > refuse to give up > my Jeep. > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? > Can you rebuild > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five > speed, overdrive? > | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the > bellhousing > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft > length may > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely > have change > | over the year differences, but you should be able to use > yours. So > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you > hooked up. You > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough > compatibility > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > | mailto:-------------------- > | > | Fennidh wrote: > | > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 > | > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. > | > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? > | > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just > researching > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 > days or > | > so. > | > > | > Anyone????? > | > > | > Thanks In Advance > | > > | > JT > | > LV,NV |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
It should just fit right in if you get the Jeep T-5.
Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Fennidh wrote: > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button. > > Here it is again... > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear > is nothing > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal > PITA on the > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major > consideration. There > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really > looking for a > bit more top end with lower rpm. > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month > or so, and > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a > watch spring for > that many hours. > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore > refuse to give up > my Jeep. > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? > Can you rebuild > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five > speed, overdrive? > | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the > bellhousing > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft > length may > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely > have change > | over the year differences, but you should be able to use > yours. So > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you > hooked up. You > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough > compatibility > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > | mailto:-------------------- > | > | Fennidh wrote: > | > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 > | > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. > | > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? > | > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just > researching > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 > days or > | > so. > | > > | > Anyone????? > | > > | > Thanks In Advance > | > > | > JT > | > LV,NV |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
One trans that you might want to consider is the bullet-proof NP435. This is
a cast iron unit that is almost impossible to destroy. I drug mine behind the motorhome with some of the levers in the wrong positions, and smoked the synchros for 3rd and 4th. I bought a small box of parts and did the repairs myself. A lesser unit would have a total melt down under the same conditions. This is a 4-spd model that has a low gear of 6.69:1. This very low gear is useful for all sorts of things - pulling your house off of its foundation, getting out and walking while your Jeep idles along beside you, etc. It will bolt directly to the bell housing, but needs an adaptor plate between it and the D300 tcase. Try Novac Adaptors and Advance Adaptors on the Web for more information. "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05... > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button. > > Here it is again... > > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear > is nothing > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal > PITA on the > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major > consideration. There > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really > looking for a > bit more top end with lower rpm. > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month > or so, and > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a > watch spring for > that many hours. > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore > refuse to give up > my Jeep. > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. > > > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? > Can you rebuild > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five > speed, overdrive? > | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the > bellhousing > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft > length may > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely > have change > | over the year differences, but you should be able to use > yours. So > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you > hooked up. You > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough > compatibility > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > | mailto:-------------------- > | > | Fennidh wrote: > | > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 > | > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. > | > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? > | > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just > researching > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 > days or > | > so. > | > > | > Anyone????? > | > > | > Thanks In Advance > | > > | > JT > | > LV,NV > > |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
One trans that you might want to consider is the bullet-proof NP435. This is
a cast iron unit that is almost impossible to destroy. I drug mine behind the motorhome with some of the levers in the wrong positions, and smoked the synchros for 3rd and 4th. I bought a small box of parts and did the repairs myself. A lesser unit would have a total melt down under the same conditions. This is a 4-spd model that has a low gear of 6.69:1. This very low gear is useful for all sorts of things - pulling your house off of its foundation, getting out and walking while your Jeep idles along beside you, etc. It will bolt directly to the bell housing, but needs an adaptor plate between it and the D300 tcase. Try Novac Adaptors and Advance Adaptors on the Web for more information. "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05... > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button. > > Here it is again... > > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear > is nothing > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal > PITA on the > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major > consideration. There > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really > looking for a > bit more top end with lower rpm. > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month > or so, and > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a > watch spring for > that many hours. > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore > refuse to give up > my Jeep. > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. > > > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? > Can you rebuild > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five > speed, overdrive? > | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the > bellhousing > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft > length may > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely > have change > | over the year differences, but you should be able to use > yours. So > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you > hooked up. You > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough > compatibility > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > | mailto:-------------------- > | > | Fennidh wrote: > | > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 > | > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. > | > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? > | > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just > researching > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 > days or > | > so. > | > > | > Anyone????? > | > > | > Thanks In Advance > | > > | > JT > | > LV,NV > > |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
One trans that you might want to consider is the bullet-proof NP435. This is
a cast iron unit that is almost impossible to destroy. I drug mine behind the motorhome with some of the levers in the wrong positions, and smoked the synchros for 3rd and 4th. I bought a small box of parts and did the repairs myself. A lesser unit would have a total melt down under the same conditions. This is a 4-spd model that has a low gear of 6.69:1. This very low gear is useful for all sorts of things - pulling your house off of its foundation, getting out and walking while your Jeep idles along beside you, etc. It will bolt directly to the bell housing, but needs an adaptor plate between it and the D300 tcase. Try Novac Adaptors and Advance Adaptors on the Web for more information. "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05... > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button. > > Here it is again... > > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear > is nothing > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal > PITA on the > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major > consideration. There > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really > looking for a > bit more top end with lower rpm. > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month > or so, and > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a > watch spring for > that many hours. > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore > refuse to give up > my Jeep. > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. > > > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? > Can you rebuild > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five > speed, overdrive? > | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the > bellhousing > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft > length may > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely > have change > | over the year differences, but you should be able to use > yours. So > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you > hooked up. You > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough > compatibility > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > | mailto:-------------------- > | > | Fennidh wrote: > | > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 > | > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. > | > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? > | > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just > researching > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 > days or > | > so. > | > > | > Anyone????? > | > > | > Thanks In Advance > | > > | > JT > | > LV,NV > > |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
One trans that you might want to consider is the bullet-proof NP435. This is
a cast iron unit that is almost impossible to destroy. I drug mine behind the motorhome with some of the levers in the wrong positions, and smoked the synchros for 3rd and 4th. I bought a small box of parts and did the repairs myself. A lesser unit would have a total melt down under the same conditions. This is a 4-spd model that has a low gear of 6.69:1. This very low gear is useful for all sorts of things - pulling your house off of its foundation, getting out and walking while your Jeep idles along beside you, etc. It will bolt directly to the bell housing, but needs an adaptor plate between it and the D300 tcase. Try Novac Adaptors and Advance Adaptors on the Web for more information. "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05... > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button. > > Here it is again... > > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear > is nothing > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal > PITA on the > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major > consideration. There > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really > looking for a > bit more top end with lower rpm. > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month > or so, and > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a > watch spring for > that many hours. > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore > refuse to give up > my Jeep. > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. > > > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? > Can you rebuild > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five > speed, overdrive? > | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the > bellhousing > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft > length may > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely > have change > | over the year differences, but you should be able to use > yours. So > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you > hooked up. You > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough > compatibility > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > | mailto:-------------------- > | > | Fennidh wrote: > | > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 > | > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. > | > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? > | > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just > researching > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 > days or > | > so. > | > > | > Anyone????? > | > > | > Thanks In Advance > | > > | > JT > | > LV,NV > > |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
i just found this on ebay-if you have the same bellhousing you might be able
to use it for you swap... http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05... > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button. > > Here it is again... > > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear > is nothing > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal > PITA on the > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major > consideration. There > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really > looking for a > bit more top end with lower rpm. > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month > or so, and > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a > watch spring for > that many hours. > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore > refuse to give up > my Jeep. > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. > > > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? > Can you rebuild > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five > speed, overdrive? > | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the > bellhousing > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft > length may > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely > have change > | over the year differences, but you should be able to use > yours. So > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you > hooked up. You > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough > compatibility > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > | mailto:-------------------- > | > | Fennidh wrote: > | > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 > | > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. > | > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? > | > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just > researching > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 > days or > | > so. > | > > | > Anyone????? > | > > | > Thanks In Advance > | > > | > JT > | > LV,NV > > |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
i just found this on ebay-if you have the same bellhousing you might be able
to use it for you swap... http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05... > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button. > > Here it is again... > > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear > is nothing > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal > PITA on the > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major > consideration. There > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really > looking for a > bit more top end with lower rpm. > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month > or so, and > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a > watch spring for > that many hours. > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore > refuse to give up > my Jeep. > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. > > > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? > Can you rebuild > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five > speed, overdrive? > | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the > bellhousing > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft > length may > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely > have change > | over the year differences, but you should be able to use > yours. So > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you > hooked up. You > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough > compatibility > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > | mailto:-------------------- > | > | Fennidh wrote: > | > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 > | > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. > | > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? > | > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just > researching > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 > days or > | > so. > | > > | > Anyone????? > | > > | > Thanks In Advance > | > > | > JT > | > LV,NV > > |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
i just found this on ebay-if you have the same bellhousing you might be able
to use it for you swap... http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05... > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button. > > Here it is again... > > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear > is nothing > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal > PITA on the > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major > consideration. There > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really > looking for a > bit more top end with lower rpm. > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month > or so, and > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a > watch spring for > that many hours. > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore > refuse to give up > my Jeep. > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. > > > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? > Can you rebuild > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five > speed, overdrive? > | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the > bellhousing > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft > length may > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely > have change > | over the year differences, but you should be able to use > yours. So > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you > hooked up. You > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough > compatibility > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > | mailto:-------------------- > | > | Fennidh wrote: > | > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 > | > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. > | > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? > | > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just > researching > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 > days or > | > so. > | > > | > Anyone????? > | > > | > Thanks In Advance > | > > | > JT > | > LV,NV > > |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
i just found this on ebay-if you have the same bellhousing you might be able
to use it for you swap... http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05... > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button. > > Here it is again... > > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear > is nothing > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal > PITA on the > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major > consideration. There > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really > looking for a > bit more top end with lower rpm. > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month > or so, and > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a > watch spring for > that many hours. > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore > refuse to give up > my Jeep. > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. > > > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? > Can you rebuild > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five > speed, overdrive? > | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the > bellhousing > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft > length may > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely > have change > | over the year differences, but you should be able to use > yours. So > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you > hooked up. You > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough > compatibility > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > | mailto:-------------------- > | > | Fennidh wrote: > | > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 > | > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. > | > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? > | > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just > researching > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 > days or > | > so. > | > > | > Anyone????? > | > > | > Thanks In Advance > | > > | > JT > | > LV,NV > > |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
oops! for some reason i thought u wanted to get a t-176...so..i guess you'll
probably have to get a new bellhousing... "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:c6ubm5$ffk3c$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de... > i just found this on ebay-if you have the same bellhousing you might be able > to use it for you swap... > > http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu > > "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05... > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button. > > > > Here it is again... > > > > > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. > > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear > > is nothing > > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal > > PITA on the > > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major > > consideration. There > > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really > > looking for a > > bit more top end with lower rpm. > > > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month > > or so, and > > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a > > watch spring for > > that many hours. > > > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore > > refuse to give up > > my Jeep. > > > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. > > > > > > > > > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in > > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... > > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? > > Can you rebuild > > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five > > speed, overdrive? > > | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the > > bellhousing > > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft > > length may > > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely > > have change > > | over the year differences, but you should be able to use > > yours. So > > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you > > hooked up. You > > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough > > compatibility > > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm > > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > | mailto:-------------------- > > | > > | Fennidh wrote: > > | > > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 > > | > > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. > > | > > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? > > | > > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just > > researching > > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 > > days or > > | > so. > > | > > > | > Anyone????? > > | > > > | > Thanks In Advance > > | > > > | > JT > > | > LV,NV > > > > > > |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
oops! for some reason i thought u wanted to get a t-176...so..i guess you'll
probably have to get a new bellhousing... "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:c6ubm5$ffk3c$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de... > i just found this on ebay-if you have the same bellhousing you might be able > to use it for you swap... > > http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu > > "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05... > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button. > > > > Here it is again... > > > > > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. > > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear > > is nothing > > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal > > PITA on the > > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major > > consideration. There > > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really > > looking for a > > bit more top end with lower rpm. > > > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month > > or so, and > > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a > > watch spring for > > that many hours. > > > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore > > refuse to give up > > my Jeep. > > > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. > > > > > > > > > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in > > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... > > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? > > Can you rebuild > > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five > > speed, overdrive? > > | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the > > bellhousing > > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft > > length may > > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely > > have change > > | over the year differences, but you should be able to use > > yours. So > > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you > > hooked up. You > > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough > > compatibility > > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm > > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > | mailto:-------------------- > > | > > | Fennidh wrote: > > | > > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 > > | > > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. > > | > > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? > > | > > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just > > researching > > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 > > days or > > | > so. > > | > > > | > Anyone????? > > | > > > | > Thanks In Advance > > | > > > | > JT > > | > LV,NV > > > > > > |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
oops! for some reason i thought u wanted to get a t-176...so..i guess you'll
probably have to get a new bellhousing... "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:c6ubm5$ffk3c$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de... > i just found this on ebay-if you have the same bellhousing you might be able > to use it for you swap... > > http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu > > "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05... > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button. > > > > Here it is again... > > > > > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. > > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear > > is nothing > > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal > > PITA on the > > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major > > consideration. There > > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really > > looking for a > > bit more top end with lower rpm. > > > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month > > or so, and > > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a > > watch spring for > > that many hours. > > > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore > > refuse to give up > > my Jeep. > > > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. > > > > > > > > > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in > > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... > > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? > > Can you rebuild > > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five > > speed, overdrive? > > | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the > > bellhousing > > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft > > length may > > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely > > have change > > | over the year differences, but you should be able to use > > yours. So > > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you > > hooked up. You > > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough > > compatibility > > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm > > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > | mailto:-------------------- > > | > > | Fennidh wrote: > > | > > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 > > | > > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. > > | > > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? > > | > > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just > > researching > > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 > > days or > > | > so. > > | > > > | > Anyone????? > > | > > > | > Thanks In Advance > > | > > > | > JT > > | > LV,NV > > > > > > |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
oops! for some reason i thought u wanted to get a t-176...so..i guess you'll
probably have to get a new bellhousing... "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:c6ubm5$ffk3c$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de... > i just found this on ebay-if you have the same bellhousing you might be able > to use it for you swap... > > http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu > > "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05... > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button. > > > > Here it is again... > > > > > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. > > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear > > is nothing > > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal > > PITA on the > > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major > > consideration. There > > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really > > looking for a > > bit more top end with lower rpm. > > > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month > > or so, and > > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a > > watch spring for > > that many hours. > > > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore > > refuse to give up > > my Jeep. > > > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. > > > > > > > > > > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in > > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... > > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? > > Can you rebuild > > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five > > speed, overdrive? > > | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the > > bellhousing > > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft > > length may > > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely > > have change > > | over the year differences, but you should be able to use > > yours. So > > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you > > hooked up. You > > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough > > compatibility > > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm > > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > | mailto:-------------------- > > | > > | Fennidh wrote: > > | > > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 > > | > > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. > > | > > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? > > | > > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just > > researching > > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 > > days or > > | > so. > > | > > > | > Anyone????? > > | > > > | > Thanks In Advance > > | > > > | > JT > > | > LV,NV > > > > > > |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
they sure are pretty when new, aren't they?
JT "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:c6ubsr$fl7tj$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de... | oops! for some reason i thought u wanted to get a t-176...so..i guess you'll | probably have to get a new bellhousing... | | "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message | news:c6ubm5$ffk3c$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de... | > i just found this on ebay-if you have the same bellhousing you might be | able | > to use it for you swap... | > | > http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu | > | > "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message | > news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05... | > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button. | > > | > > Here it is again... | > > | > > | > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. | > > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear | > > is nothing | > > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal | > > PITA on the | > > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major | > > consideration. There | > > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really | > > looking for a | > > bit more top end with lower rpm. | > > | > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month | > > or so, and | > > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a | > > watch spring for | > > that many hours. | > > | > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore | > > refuse to give up | > > my Jeep. | > > | > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in | > > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... | > > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? | > > Can you rebuild | > > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five | > > speed, overdrive? | > > | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the | > > bellhousing | > > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft | > > length may | > > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely | > > have change | > > | over the year differences, but you should be able to use | > > yours. So | > > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you | > > hooked up. You | > > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough | > > compatibility | > > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm | > > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O | > > | mailto:-------------------- | > > | | > > | Fennidh wrote: | > > | > | > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 | > > | > | > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. | > > | > | > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? | > > | > | > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just | > > researching | > > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 | > > days or | > > | > so. | > > | > | > > | > Anyone????? | > > | > | > > | > Thanks In Advance | > > | > | > > | > JT | > > | > LV,NV | > > | > > | > | > | | |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
they sure are pretty when new, aren't they?
JT "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:c6ubsr$fl7tj$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de... | oops! for some reason i thought u wanted to get a t-176...so..i guess you'll | probably have to get a new bellhousing... | | "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message | news:c6ubm5$ffk3c$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de... | > i just found this on ebay-if you have the same bellhousing you might be | able | > to use it for you swap... | > | > http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu | > | > "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message | > news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05... | > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button. | > > | > > Here it is again... | > > | > > | > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. | > > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear | > > is nothing | > > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal | > > PITA on the | > > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major | > > consideration. There | > > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really | > > looking for a | > > bit more top end with lower rpm. | > > | > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month | > > or so, and | > > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a | > > watch spring for | > > that many hours. | > > | > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore | > > refuse to give up | > > my Jeep. | > > | > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in | > > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... | > > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? | > > Can you rebuild | > > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five | > > speed, overdrive? | > > | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the | > > bellhousing | > > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft | > > length may | > > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely | > > have change | > > | over the year differences, but you should be able to use | > > yours. So | > > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you | > > hooked up. You | > > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough | > > compatibility | > > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm | > > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O | > > | mailto:-------------------- | > > | | > > | Fennidh wrote: | > > | > | > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 | > > | > | > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. | > > | > | > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? | > > | > | > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just | > > researching | > > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 | > > days or | > > | > so. | > > | > | > > | > Anyone????? | > > | > | > > | > Thanks In Advance | > > | > | > > | > JT | > > | > LV,NV | > > | > > | > | > | | |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
they sure are pretty when new, aren't they?
JT "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:c6ubsr$fl7tj$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de... | oops! for some reason i thought u wanted to get a t-176...so..i guess you'll | probably have to get a new bellhousing... | | "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message | news:c6ubm5$ffk3c$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de... | > i just found this on ebay-if you have the same bellhousing you might be | able | > to use it for you swap... | > | > http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu | > | > "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message | > news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05... | > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button. | > > | > > Here it is again... | > > | > > | > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. | > > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear | > > is nothing | > > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal | > > PITA on the | > > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major | > > consideration. There | > > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really | > > looking for a | > > bit more top end with lower rpm. | > > | > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month | > > or so, and | > > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a | > > watch spring for | > > that many hours. | > > | > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore | > > refuse to give up | > > my Jeep. | > > | > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in | > > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... | > > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? | > > Can you rebuild | > > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five | > > speed, overdrive? | > > | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the | > > bellhousing | > > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft | > > length may | > > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely | > > have change | > > | over the year differences, but you should be able to use | > > yours. So | > > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you | > > hooked up. You | > > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough | > > compatibility | > > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm | > > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O | > > | mailto:-------------------- | > > | | > > | Fennidh wrote: | > > | > | > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 | > > | > | > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. | > > | > | > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? | > > | > | > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just | > > researching | > > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 | > > days or | > > | > so. | > > | > | > > | > Anyone????? | > > | > | > > | > Thanks In Advance | > > | > | > > | > JT | > > | > LV,NV | > > | > > | > | > | | |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
they sure are pretty when new, aren't they?
JT "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:c6ubsr$fl7tj$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de... | oops! for some reason i thought u wanted to get a t-176...so..i guess you'll | probably have to get a new bellhousing... | | "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message | news:c6ubm5$ffk3c$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de... | > i just found this on ebay-if you have the same bellhousing you might be | able | > to use it for you swap... | > | > http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu | > | > "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message | > news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05... | > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button. | > > | > > Here it is again... | > > | > > | > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. | > > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear | > > is nothing | > > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal | > > PITA on the | > > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major | > > consideration. There | > > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really | > > looking for a | > > bit more top end with lower rpm. | > > | > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month | > > or so, and | > > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a | > > watch spring for | > > that many hours. | > > | > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore | > > refuse to give up | > > my Jeep. | > > | > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage. | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in | > > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... | > > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? | > > Can you rebuild | > > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five | > > speed, overdrive? | > > | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the | > > bellhousing | > > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft | > > length may | > > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely | > > have change | > > | over the year differences, but you should be able to use | > > yours. So | > > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you | > > hooked up. You | > > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough | > > compatibility | > > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm | > > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O | > > | mailto:-------------------- | > > | | > > | Fennidh wrote: | > > | > | > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 | > > | > | > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. | > > | > | > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? | > > | > | > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just | > > researching | > > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 | > > days or | > > | > so. | > > | > | > > | > Anyone????? | > > | > | > > | > Thanks In Advance | > > | > | > > | > JT | > > | > LV,NV | > > | > > | > | > | | |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
hey-your stuff can look like that too-if you feel like taking it all apart
and getting it blasted that is! yeah, everything looks so nice and clean when new....after the first run though... "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:bvykc.17682$6L3.5275@fed1read05... > they sure are pretty when new, aren't they? > > > JT > > > > "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:c6ubsr$fl7tj$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de... > | oops! for some reason i thought u wanted to get a > t-176...so..i guess you'll > | probably have to get a new bellhousing... > | > | "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message > | news:c6ubm5$ffk3c$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de... > | > i just found this on ebay-if you have the same > bellhousing you might be > | able > | > to use it for you swap... > | > > | > http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu > | > > | > "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message > | > news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05... > | > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong > button. > | > > > | > > Here it is again... > | > > > | > > > | > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. > | > > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The > low gear > | > > is nothing > | > > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a > royal > | > > PITA on the > | > > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major > | > > consideration. There > | > > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am > really > | > > looking for a > | > > bit more top end with lower rpm. > | > > > | > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other > month > | > > or so, and > | > > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than > a > | > > watch spring for > | > > that many hours. > | > > > | > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and > therefore > | > > refuse to give up > | > > my Jeep. > | > > > | > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early > stage. > | > > > | > > > | > > > | > > > | > > > | > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in > | > > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... > | > > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three > speed? > | > > Can you rebuild > | > > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the > five > | > > speed, overdrive? > | > > | Because the switch remains American, more than > likely the > | > > bellhousing > | > > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and > shaft > | > > length may > | > > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than > likely > | > > have change > | > > | over the year differences, but you should be able to > use > | > > yours. So > | > > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should > get you > | > > hooked up. You > | > > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the > rough > | > > compatibility > | > > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm > | > > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > | > > | mailto:-------------------- > | > > | > | > > | Fennidh wrote: > | > > | > > | > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 > | > > | > > | > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. > | > > | > > | > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? > | > > | > > | > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just > | > > researching > | > > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next > 60 > | > > days or > | > > | > so. > | > > | > > | > > | > Anyone????? > | > > | > > | > > | > Thanks In Advance > | > > | > > | > > | > JT > | > > | > LV,NV > | > > > | > > > | > > | > > | > | > > |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
hey-your stuff can look like that too-if you feel like taking it all apart
and getting it blasted that is! yeah, everything looks so nice and clean when new....after the first run though... "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:bvykc.17682$6L3.5275@fed1read05... > they sure are pretty when new, aren't they? > > > JT > > > > "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:c6ubsr$fl7tj$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de... > | oops! for some reason i thought u wanted to get a > t-176...so..i guess you'll > | probably have to get a new bellhousing... > | > | "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message > | news:c6ubm5$ffk3c$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de... > | > i just found this on ebay-if you have the same > bellhousing you might be > | able > | > to use it for you swap... > | > > | > http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu > | > > | > "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message > | > news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05... > | > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong > button. > | > > > | > > Here it is again... > | > > > | > > > | > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. > | > > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The > low gear > | > > is nothing > | > > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a > royal > | > > PITA on the > | > > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major > | > > consideration. There > | > > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am > really > | > > looking for a > | > > bit more top end with lower rpm. > | > > > | > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other > month > | > > or so, and > | > > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than > a > | > > watch spring for > | > > that many hours. > | > > > | > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and > therefore > | > > refuse to give up > | > > my Jeep. > | > > > | > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early > stage. > | > > > | > > > | > > > | > > > | > > > | > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in > | > > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... > | > > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three > speed? > | > > Can you rebuild > | > > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the > five > | > > speed, overdrive? > | > > | Because the switch remains American, more than > likely the > | > > bellhousing > | > > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and > shaft > | > > length may > | > > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than > likely > | > > have change > | > > | over the year differences, but you should be able to > use > | > > yours. So > | > > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should > get you > | > > hooked up. You > | > > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the > rough > | > > compatibility > | > > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm > | > > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > | > > | mailto:-------------------- > | > > | > | > > | Fennidh wrote: > | > > | > > | > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 > | > > | > > | > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. > | > > | > > | > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? > | > > | > > | > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just > | > > researching > | > > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next > 60 > | > > days or > | > > | > so. > | > > | > > | > > | > Anyone????? > | > > | > > | > > | > Thanks In Advance > | > > | > > | > > | > JT > | > > | > LV,NV > | > > > | > > > | > > | > > | > | > > |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
hey-your stuff can look like that too-if you feel like taking it all apart
and getting it blasted that is! yeah, everything looks so nice and clean when new....after the first run though... "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:bvykc.17682$6L3.5275@fed1read05... > they sure are pretty when new, aren't they? > > > JT > > > > "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:c6ubsr$fl7tj$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de... > | oops! for some reason i thought u wanted to get a > t-176...so..i guess you'll > | probably have to get a new bellhousing... > | > | "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message > | news:c6ubm5$ffk3c$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de... > | > i just found this on ebay-if you have the same > bellhousing you might be > | able > | > to use it for you swap... > | > > | > http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu > | > > | > "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message > | > news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05... > | > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong > button. > | > > > | > > Here it is again... > | > > > | > > > | > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. > | > > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The > low gear > | > > is nothing > | > > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a > royal > | > > PITA on the > | > > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major > | > > consideration. There > | > > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am > really > | > > looking for a > | > > bit more top end with lower rpm. > | > > > | > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other > month > | > > or so, and > | > > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than > a > | > > watch spring for > | > > that many hours. > | > > > | > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and > therefore > | > > refuse to give up > | > > my Jeep. > | > > > | > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early > stage. > | > > > | > > > | > > > | > > > | > > > | > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in > | > > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... > | > > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three > speed? > | > > Can you rebuild > | > > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the > five > | > > speed, overdrive? > | > > | Because the switch remains American, more than > likely the > | > > bellhousing > | > > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and > shaft > | > > length may > | > > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than > likely > | > > have change > | > > | over the year differences, but you should be able to > use > | > > yours. So > | > > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should > get you > | > > hooked up. You > | > > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the > rough > | > > compatibility > | > > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm > | > > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > | > > | mailto:-------------------- > | > > | > | > > | Fennidh wrote: > | > > | > > | > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 > | > > | > > | > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. > | > > | > > | > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? > | > > | > > | > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just > | > > researching > | > > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next > 60 > | > > days or > | > > | > so. > | > > | > > | > > | > Anyone????? > | > > | > > | > > | > Thanks In Advance > | > > | > > | > > | > JT > | > > | > LV,NV > | > > > | > > > | > > | > > | > | > > |
Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
hey-your stuff can look like that too-if you feel like taking it all apart
and getting it blasted that is! yeah, everything looks so nice and clean when new....after the first run though... "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:bvykc.17682$6L3.5275@fed1read05... > they sure are pretty when new, aren't they? > > > JT > > > > "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:c6ubsr$fl7tj$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de... > | oops! for some reason i thought u wanted to get a > t-176...so..i guess you'll > | probably have to get a new bellhousing... > | > | "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message > | news:c6ubm5$ffk3c$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de... > | > i just found this on ebay-if you have the same > bellhousing you might be > | able > | > to use it for you swap... > | > > | > http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu > | > > | > "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message > | > news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05... > | > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong > button. > | > > > | > > Here it is again... > | > > > | > > > | > > It is a 1977 CJ 5. > | > > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The > low gear > | > > is nothing > | > > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a > royal > | > > PITA on the > | > > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major > | > > consideration. There > | > > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am > really > | > > looking for a > | > > bit more top end with lower rpm. > | > > > | > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other > month > | > > or so, and > | > > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than > a > | > > watch spring for > | > > that many hours. > | > > > | > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and > therefore > | > > refuse to give up > | > > my Jeep. > | > > > | > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early > stage. > | > > > | > > > | > > > | > > > | > > > | > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in > | > > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net... > | > > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three > speed? > | > > Can you rebuild > | > > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the > five > | > > speed, overdrive? > | > > | Because the switch remains American, more than > likely the > | > > bellhousing > | > > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and > shaft > | > > length may > | > > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than > likely > | > > have change > | > > | over the year differences, but you should be able to > use > | > > yours. So > | > > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should > get you > | > > hooked up. You > | > > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the > rough > | > > compatibility > | > > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm > | > > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > | > > | mailto:-------------------- > | > > | > | > > | Fennidh wrote: > | > > | > > | > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20 > | > > | > > | > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300. > | > > | > > | > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter? > | > > | > > | > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just > | > > researching > | > > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next > 60 > | > > days or > | > > | > so. > | > > | > > | > > | > Anyone????? > | > > | > > | > > | > Thanks In Advance > | > > | > > | > > | > JT > | > > | > LV,NV > | > > > | > > > | > > | > > | > | > > |
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