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Fennidh 04-29-2004 08:54 PM

Mike or Bill or ane else wanna spell it out......
 
For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20

I want to change to 258/T5/D300.

Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?

I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just researching
this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 days or
so.


Anyone?????

Thanks In Advance

JT
LV,NV



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-29-2004 09:42 PM

Re: Mike or Bill or ane else wanna spell it out......
 
You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? Can you rebuild
it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five speed, overdrive?
Because the switch remains American, more than likely the bellhousing
hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft length may
remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely have change
over the year differences, but you should be able to use yours. So
probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you hooked up. You
didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough compatibility
via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Fennidh wrote:
>
> For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
>
> I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
>
> Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
>
> I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just researching
> this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 days or
> so.
>
> Anyone?????
>
> Thanks In Advance
>
> JT
> LV,NV


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-29-2004 09:42 PM

Re: Mike or Bill or ane else wanna spell it out......
 
You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? Can you rebuild
it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five speed, overdrive?
Because the switch remains American, more than likely the bellhousing
hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft length may
remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely have change
over the year differences, but you should be able to use yours. So
probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you hooked up. You
didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough compatibility
via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Fennidh wrote:
>
> For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
>
> I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
>
> Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
>
> I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just researching
> this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 days or
> so.
>
> Anyone?????
>
> Thanks In Advance
>
> JT
> LV,NV


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-29-2004 09:42 PM

Re: Mike or Bill or ane else wanna spell it out......
 
You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? Can you rebuild
it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five speed, overdrive?
Because the switch remains American, more than likely the bellhousing
hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft length may
remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely have change
over the year differences, but you should be able to use yours. So
probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you hooked up. You
didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough compatibility
via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Fennidh wrote:
>
> For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
>
> I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
>
> Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
>
> I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just researching
> this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 days or
> so.
>
> Anyone?????
>
> Thanks In Advance
>
> JT
> LV,NV


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-29-2004 09:42 PM

Re: Mike or Bill or ane else wanna spell it out......
 
You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed? Can you rebuild
it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five speed, overdrive?
Because the switch remains American, more than likely the bellhousing
hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft length may
remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely have change
over the year differences, but you should be able to use yours. So
probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you hooked up. You
didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough compatibility
via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Fennidh wrote:
>
> For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
>
> I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
>
> Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
>
> I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just researching
> this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60 days or
> so.
>
> Anyone?????
>
> Thanks In Advance
>
> JT
> LV,NV


Fennidh 04-29-2004 11:31 PM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.

Here it is again...


It is a 1977 CJ 5.
It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear
is nothing
special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal
PITA on the
highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
consideration. There
is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really
looking for a
bit more top end with lower rpm.

I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month
or so, and
don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a
watch spring for
that many hours.

But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore
refuse to give up
my Jeep.

I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage.





"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
| You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed?
Can you rebuild
| it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five
speed, overdrive?
| Because the switch remains American, more than likely the
bellhousing
| hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft
length may
| remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely
have change
| over the year differences, but you should be able to use
yours. So
| probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you
hooked up. You
| didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough
compatibility
| via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| mailto:--------------------
|
| Fennidh wrote:
| >
| > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
| >
| > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
| >
| > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
| >
| > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
researching
| > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60
days or
| > so.
| >
| > Anyone?????
| >
| > Thanks In Advance
| >
| > JT
| > LV,NV



Fennidh 04-29-2004 11:31 PM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.

Here it is again...


It is a 1977 CJ 5.
It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear
is nothing
special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal
PITA on the
highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
consideration. There
is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really
looking for a
bit more top end with lower rpm.

I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month
or so, and
don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a
watch spring for
that many hours.

But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore
refuse to give up
my Jeep.

I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage.





"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
| You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed?
Can you rebuild
| it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five
speed, overdrive?
| Because the switch remains American, more than likely the
bellhousing
| hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft
length may
| remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely
have change
| over the year differences, but you should be able to use
yours. So
| probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you
hooked up. You
| didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough
compatibility
| via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| mailto:--------------------
|
| Fennidh wrote:
| >
| > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
| >
| > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
| >
| > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
| >
| > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
researching
| > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60
days or
| > so.
| >
| > Anyone?????
| >
| > Thanks In Advance
| >
| > JT
| > LV,NV



Fennidh 04-29-2004 11:31 PM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.

Here it is again...


It is a 1977 CJ 5.
It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear
is nothing
special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal
PITA on the
highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
consideration. There
is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really
looking for a
bit more top end with lower rpm.

I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month
or so, and
don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a
watch spring for
that many hours.

But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore
refuse to give up
my Jeep.

I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage.





"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
| You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed?
Can you rebuild
| it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five
speed, overdrive?
| Because the switch remains American, more than likely the
bellhousing
| hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft
length may
| remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely
have change
| over the year differences, but you should be able to use
yours. So
| probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you
hooked up. You
| didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough
compatibility
| via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| mailto:--------------------
|
| Fennidh wrote:
| >
| > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
| >
| > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
| >
| > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
| >
| > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
researching
| > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60
days or
| > so.
| >
| > Anyone?????
| >
| > Thanks In Advance
| >
| > JT
| > LV,NV



Fennidh 04-29-2004 11:31 PM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.

Here it is again...


It is a 1977 CJ 5.
It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear
is nothing
special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal
PITA on the
highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
consideration. There
is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really
looking for a
bit more top end with lower rpm.

I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month
or so, and
don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a
watch spring for
that many hours.

But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore
refuse to give up
my Jeep.

I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage.





"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
| You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed?
Can you rebuild
| it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five
speed, overdrive?
| Because the switch remains American, more than likely the
bellhousing
| hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft
length may
| remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely
have change
| over the year differences, but you should be able to use
yours. So
| probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you
hooked up. You
| didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough
compatibility
| via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
| God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| mailto:--------------------
|
| Fennidh wrote:
| >
| > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
| >
| > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
| >
| > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
| >
| > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
researching
| > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60
days or
| > so.
| >
| > Anyone?????
| >
| > Thanks In Advance
| >
| > JT
| > LV,NV



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-30-2004 12:23 AM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
No problem, if mail to my personal box bothered me I wouldn't list
my address.
Never heard of it, I just presumed all T nomenclatures were Borg
Warner, not Mexican:
http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/in...75_508_510&404 It
uses it's own Bellhousing. So, you'll need everything form your donor
car, maybe not the flywheel.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Fennidh wrote:
>
> Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.
>
> Here it is again...
>
> It is a 1977 CJ 5.
> It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear
> is nothing
> special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal
> PITA on the
> highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
> consideration. There
> is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really
> looking for a
> bit more top end with lower rpm.
>
> I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month
> or so, and
> don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a
> watch spring for
> that many hours.
>
> But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore
> refuse to give up
> my Jeep.
>
> I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-30-2004 12:23 AM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
No problem, if mail to my personal box bothered me I wouldn't list
my address.
Never heard of it, I just presumed all T nomenclatures were Borg
Warner, not Mexican:
http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/in...75_508_510&404 It
uses it's own Bellhousing. So, you'll need everything form your donor
car, maybe not the flywheel.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Fennidh wrote:
>
> Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.
>
> Here it is again...
>
> It is a 1977 CJ 5.
> It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear
> is nothing
> special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal
> PITA on the
> highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
> consideration. There
> is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really
> looking for a
> bit more top end with lower rpm.
>
> I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month
> or so, and
> don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a
> watch spring for
> that many hours.
>
> But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore
> refuse to give up
> my Jeep.
>
> I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-30-2004 12:23 AM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
No problem, if mail to my personal box bothered me I wouldn't list
my address.
Never heard of it, I just presumed all T nomenclatures were Borg
Warner, not Mexican:
http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/in...75_508_510&404 It
uses it's own Bellhousing. So, you'll need everything form your donor
car, maybe not the flywheel.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Fennidh wrote:
>
> Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.
>
> Here it is again...
>
> It is a 1977 CJ 5.
> It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear
> is nothing
> special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal
> PITA on the
> highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
> consideration. There
> is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really
> looking for a
> bit more top end with lower rpm.
>
> I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month
> or so, and
> don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a
> watch spring for
> that many hours.
>
> But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore
> refuse to give up
> my Jeep.
>
> I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-30-2004 12:23 AM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
No problem, if mail to my personal box bothered me I wouldn't list
my address.
Never heard of it, I just presumed all T nomenclatures were Borg
Warner, not Mexican:
http://www.rubicon4x4.com/catalog/in...75_508_510&404 It
uses it's own Bellhousing. So, you'll need everything form your donor
car, maybe not the flywheel.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Fennidh wrote:
>
> Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.
>
> Here it is again...
>
> It is a 1977 CJ 5.
> It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear
> is nothing
> special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal
> PITA on the
> highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
> consideration. There
> is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really
> looking for a
> bit more top end with lower rpm.
>
> I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month
> or so, and
> don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a
> watch spring for
> that many hours.
>
> But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore
> refuse to give up
> my Jeep.
>
> I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage.


Mike Romain 04-30-2004 08:58 AM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
It should just fit right in if you get the Jeep T-5.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Fennidh wrote:
>
> Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.
>
> Here it is again...
>
> It is a 1977 CJ 5.
> It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear
> is nothing
> special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal
> PITA on the
> highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
> consideration. There
> is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really
> looking for a
> bit more top end with lower rpm.
>
> I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month
> or so, and
> don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a
> watch spring for
> that many hours.
>
> But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore
> refuse to give up
> my Jeep.
>
> I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
> message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
> | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed?
> Can you rebuild
> | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five
> speed, overdrive?
> | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the
> bellhousing
> | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft
> length may
> | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely
> have change
> | over the year differences, but you should be able to use
> yours. So
> | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you
> hooked up. You
> | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough
> compatibility
> | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
> | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | mailto:--------------------
> |
> | Fennidh wrote:
> | >
> | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
> | >
> | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
> | >
> | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
> | >
> | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
> researching
> | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60
> days or
> | > so.
> | >
> | > Anyone?????
> | >
> | > Thanks In Advance
> | >
> | > JT
> | > LV,NV


Mike Romain 04-30-2004 08:58 AM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
It should just fit right in if you get the Jeep T-5.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Fennidh wrote:
>
> Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.
>
> Here it is again...
>
> It is a 1977 CJ 5.
> It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear
> is nothing
> special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal
> PITA on the
> highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
> consideration. There
> is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really
> looking for a
> bit more top end with lower rpm.
>
> I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month
> or so, and
> don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a
> watch spring for
> that many hours.
>
> But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore
> refuse to give up
> my Jeep.
>
> I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
> message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
> | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed?
> Can you rebuild
> | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five
> speed, overdrive?
> | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the
> bellhousing
> | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft
> length may
> | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely
> have change
> | over the year differences, but you should be able to use
> yours. So
> | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you
> hooked up. You
> | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough
> compatibility
> | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
> | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | mailto:--------------------
> |
> | Fennidh wrote:
> | >
> | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
> | >
> | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
> | >
> | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
> | >
> | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
> researching
> | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60
> days or
> | > so.
> | >
> | > Anyone?????
> | >
> | > Thanks In Advance
> | >
> | > JT
> | > LV,NV


Mike Romain 04-30-2004 08:58 AM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
It should just fit right in if you get the Jeep T-5.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Fennidh wrote:
>
> Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.
>
> Here it is again...
>
> It is a 1977 CJ 5.
> It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear
> is nothing
> special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal
> PITA on the
> highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
> consideration. There
> is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really
> looking for a
> bit more top end with lower rpm.
>
> I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month
> or so, and
> don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a
> watch spring for
> that many hours.
>
> But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore
> refuse to give up
> my Jeep.
>
> I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
> message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
> | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed?
> Can you rebuild
> | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five
> speed, overdrive?
> | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the
> bellhousing
> | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft
> length may
> | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely
> have change
> | over the year differences, but you should be able to use
> yours. So
> | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you
> hooked up. You
> | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough
> compatibility
> | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
> | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | mailto:--------------------
> |
> | Fennidh wrote:
> | >
> | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
> | >
> | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
> | >
> | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
> | >
> | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
> researching
> | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60
> days or
> | > so.
> | >
> | > Anyone?????
> | >
> | > Thanks In Advance
> | >
> | > JT
> | > LV,NV


Mike Romain 04-30-2004 08:58 AM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
It should just fit right in if you get the Jeep T-5.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Fennidh wrote:
>
> Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.
>
> Here it is again...
>
> It is a 1977 CJ 5.
> It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear
> is nothing
> special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal
> PITA on the
> highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
> consideration. There
> is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really
> looking for a
> bit more top end with lower rpm.
>
> I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month
> or so, and
> don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a
> watch spring for
> that many hours.
>
> But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore
> refuse to give up
> my Jeep.
>
> I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
> message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
> | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed?
> Can you rebuild
> | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five
> speed, overdrive?
> | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the
> bellhousing
> | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft
> length may
> | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely
> have change
> | over the year differences, but you should be able to use
> yours. So
> | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you
> hooked up. You
> | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough
> compatibility
> | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
> | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | mailto:--------------------
> |
> | Fennidh wrote:
> | >
> | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
> | >
> | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
> | >
> | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
> | >
> | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
> researching
> | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60
> days or
> | > so.
> | >
> | > Anyone?????
> | >
> | > Thanks In Advance
> | >
> | > JT
> | > LV,NV


CRWLR 04-30-2004 01:21 PM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
One trans that you might want to consider is the bullet-proof NP435. This is
a cast iron unit that is almost impossible to destroy. I drug mine behind
the motorhome with some of the levers in the wrong positions, and smoked the
synchros for 3rd and 4th. I bought a small box of parts and did the repairs
myself. A lesser unit would have a total melt down under the same
conditions.

This is a 4-spd model that has a low gear of 6.69:1. This very low gear is
useful for all sorts of things - pulling your house off of its foundation,
getting out and walking while your Jeep idles along beside you, etc. It will
bolt directly to the bell housing, but needs an adaptor plate between it and
the D300 tcase.

Try Novac Adaptors and Advance Adaptors on the Web for more information.



"Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05...
> Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.
>
> Here it is again...
>
>
> It is a 1977 CJ 5.
> It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear
> is nothing
> special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal
> PITA on the
> highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
> consideration. There
> is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really
> looking for a
> bit more top end with lower rpm.
>
> I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month
> or so, and
> don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a
> watch spring for
> that many hours.
>
> But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore
> refuse to give up
> my Jeep.
>
> I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage.
>
>
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
> message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
> | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed?
> Can you rebuild
> | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five
> speed, overdrive?
> | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the
> bellhousing
> | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft
> length may
> | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely
> have change
> | over the year differences, but you should be able to use
> yours. So
> | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you
> hooked up. You
> | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough
> compatibility
> | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
> | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | mailto:--------------------
> |
> | Fennidh wrote:
> | >
> | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
> | >
> | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
> | >
> | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
> | >
> | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
> researching
> | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60
> days or
> | > so.
> | >
> | > Anyone?????
> | >
> | > Thanks In Advance
> | >
> | > JT
> | > LV,NV
>
>




CRWLR 04-30-2004 01:21 PM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
One trans that you might want to consider is the bullet-proof NP435. This is
a cast iron unit that is almost impossible to destroy. I drug mine behind
the motorhome with some of the levers in the wrong positions, and smoked the
synchros for 3rd and 4th. I bought a small box of parts and did the repairs
myself. A lesser unit would have a total melt down under the same
conditions.

This is a 4-spd model that has a low gear of 6.69:1. This very low gear is
useful for all sorts of things - pulling your house off of its foundation,
getting out and walking while your Jeep idles along beside you, etc. It will
bolt directly to the bell housing, but needs an adaptor plate between it and
the D300 tcase.

Try Novac Adaptors and Advance Adaptors on the Web for more information.



"Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05...
> Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.
>
> Here it is again...
>
>
> It is a 1977 CJ 5.
> It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear
> is nothing
> special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal
> PITA on the
> highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
> consideration. There
> is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really
> looking for a
> bit more top end with lower rpm.
>
> I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month
> or so, and
> don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a
> watch spring for
> that many hours.
>
> But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore
> refuse to give up
> my Jeep.
>
> I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage.
>
>
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
> message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
> | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed?
> Can you rebuild
> | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five
> speed, overdrive?
> | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the
> bellhousing
> | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft
> length may
> | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely
> have change
> | over the year differences, but you should be able to use
> yours. So
> | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you
> hooked up. You
> | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough
> compatibility
> | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
> | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | mailto:--------------------
> |
> | Fennidh wrote:
> | >
> | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
> | >
> | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
> | >
> | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
> | >
> | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
> researching
> | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60
> days or
> | > so.
> | >
> | > Anyone?????
> | >
> | > Thanks In Advance
> | >
> | > JT
> | > LV,NV
>
>




CRWLR 04-30-2004 01:21 PM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
One trans that you might want to consider is the bullet-proof NP435. This is
a cast iron unit that is almost impossible to destroy. I drug mine behind
the motorhome with some of the levers in the wrong positions, and smoked the
synchros for 3rd and 4th. I bought a small box of parts and did the repairs
myself. A lesser unit would have a total melt down under the same
conditions.

This is a 4-spd model that has a low gear of 6.69:1. This very low gear is
useful for all sorts of things - pulling your house off of its foundation,
getting out and walking while your Jeep idles along beside you, etc. It will
bolt directly to the bell housing, but needs an adaptor plate between it and
the D300 tcase.

Try Novac Adaptors and Advance Adaptors on the Web for more information.



"Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05...
> Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.
>
> Here it is again...
>
>
> It is a 1977 CJ 5.
> It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear
> is nothing
> special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal
> PITA on the
> highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
> consideration. There
> is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really
> looking for a
> bit more top end with lower rpm.
>
> I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month
> or so, and
> don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a
> watch spring for
> that many hours.
>
> But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore
> refuse to give up
> my Jeep.
>
> I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage.
>
>
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
> message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
> | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed?
> Can you rebuild
> | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five
> speed, overdrive?
> | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the
> bellhousing
> | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft
> length may
> | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely
> have change
> | over the year differences, but you should be able to use
> yours. So
> | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you
> hooked up. You
> | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough
> compatibility
> | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
> | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | mailto:--------------------
> |
> | Fennidh wrote:
> | >
> | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
> | >
> | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
> | >
> | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
> | >
> | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
> researching
> | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60
> days or
> | > so.
> | >
> | > Anyone?????
> | >
> | > Thanks In Advance
> | >
> | > JT
> | > LV,NV
>
>




CRWLR 04-30-2004 01:21 PM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
One trans that you might want to consider is the bullet-proof NP435. This is
a cast iron unit that is almost impossible to destroy. I drug mine behind
the motorhome with some of the levers in the wrong positions, and smoked the
synchros for 3rd and 4th. I bought a small box of parts and did the repairs
myself. A lesser unit would have a total melt down under the same
conditions.

This is a 4-spd model that has a low gear of 6.69:1. This very low gear is
useful for all sorts of things - pulling your house off of its foundation,
getting out and walking while your Jeep idles along beside you, etc. It will
bolt directly to the bell housing, but needs an adaptor plate between it and
the D300 tcase.

Try Novac Adaptors and Advance Adaptors on the Web for more information.



"Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05...
> Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.
>
> Here it is again...
>
>
> It is a 1977 CJ 5.
> It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear
> is nothing
> special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal
> PITA on the
> highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
> consideration. There
> is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really
> looking for a
> bit more top end with lower rpm.
>
> I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month
> or so, and
> don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a
> watch spring for
> that many hours.
>
> But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore
> refuse to give up
> my Jeep.
>
> I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage.
>
>
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
> message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
> | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed?
> Can you rebuild
> | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five
> speed, overdrive?
> | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the
> bellhousing
> | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft
> length may
> | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely
> have change
> | over the year differences, but you should be able to use
> yours. So
> | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you
> hooked up. You
> | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough
> compatibility
> | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
> | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | mailto:--------------------
> |
> | Fennidh wrote:
> | >
> | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
> | >
> | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
> | >
> | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
> | >
> | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
> researching
> | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60
> days or
> | > so.
> | >
> | > Anyone?????
> | >
> | > Thanks In Advance
> | >
> | > JT
> | > LV,NV
>
>




serg 04-30-2004 04:07 PM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
i just found this on ebay-if you have the same bellhousing you might be able
to use it for you swap...

http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu

"Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05...
> Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.
>
> Here it is again...
>
>
> It is a 1977 CJ 5.
> It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear
> is nothing
> special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal
> PITA on the
> highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
> consideration. There
> is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really
> looking for a
> bit more top end with lower rpm.
>
> I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month
> or so, and
> don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a
> watch spring for
> that many hours.
>
> But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore
> refuse to give up
> my Jeep.
>
> I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage.
>
>
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
> message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
> | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed?
> Can you rebuild
> | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five
> speed, overdrive?
> | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the
> bellhousing
> | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft
> length may
> | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely
> have change
> | over the year differences, but you should be able to use
> yours. So
> | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you
> hooked up. You
> | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough
> compatibility
> | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
> | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | mailto:--------------------
> |
> | Fennidh wrote:
> | >
> | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
> | >
> | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
> | >
> | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
> | >
> | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
> researching
> | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60
> days or
> | > so.
> | >
> | > Anyone?????
> | >
> | > Thanks In Advance
> | >
> | > JT
> | > LV,NV
>
>




serg 04-30-2004 04:07 PM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
i just found this on ebay-if you have the same bellhousing you might be able
to use it for you swap...

http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu

"Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05...
> Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.
>
> Here it is again...
>
>
> It is a 1977 CJ 5.
> It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear
> is nothing
> special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal
> PITA on the
> highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
> consideration. There
> is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really
> looking for a
> bit more top end with lower rpm.
>
> I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month
> or so, and
> don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a
> watch spring for
> that many hours.
>
> But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore
> refuse to give up
> my Jeep.
>
> I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage.
>
>
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
> message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
> | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed?
> Can you rebuild
> | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five
> speed, overdrive?
> | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the
> bellhousing
> | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft
> length may
> | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely
> have change
> | over the year differences, but you should be able to use
> yours. So
> | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you
> hooked up. You
> | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough
> compatibility
> | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
> | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | mailto:--------------------
> |
> | Fennidh wrote:
> | >
> | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
> | >
> | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
> | >
> | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
> | >
> | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
> researching
> | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60
> days or
> | > so.
> | >
> | > Anyone?????
> | >
> | > Thanks In Advance
> | >
> | > JT
> | > LV,NV
>
>




serg 04-30-2004 04:07 PM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
i just found this on ebay-if you have the same bellhousing you might be able
to use it for you swap...

http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu

"Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05...
> Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.
>
> Here it is again...
>
>
> It is a 1977 CJ 5.
> It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear
> is nothing
> special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal
> PITA on the
> highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
> consideration. There
> is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really
> looking for a
> bit more top end with lower rpm.
>
> I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month
> or so, and
> don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a
> watch spring for
> that many hours.
>
> But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore
> refuse to give up
> my Jeep.
>
> I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage.
>
>
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
> message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
> | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed?
> Can you rebuild
> | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five
> speed, overdrive?
> | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the
> bellhousing
> | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft
> length may
> | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely
> have change
> | over the year differences, but you should be able to use
> yours. So
> | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you
> hooked up. You
> | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough
> compatibility
> | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
> | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | mailto:--------------------
> |
> | Fennidh wrote:
> | >
> | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
> | >
> | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
> | >
> | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
> | >
> | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
> researching
> | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60
> days or
> | > so.
> | >
> | > Anyone?????
> | >
> | > Thanks In Advance
> | >
> | > JT
> | > LV,NV
>
>




serg 04-30-2004 04:07 PM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
i just found this on ebay-if you have the same bellhousing you might be able
to use it for you swap...

http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu

"Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05...
> Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.
>
> Here it is again...
>
>
> It is a 1977 CJ 5.
> It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear
> is nothing
> special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal
> PITA on the
> highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
> consideration. There
> is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really
> looking for a
> bit more top end with lower rpm.
>
> I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month
> or so, and
> don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a
> watch spring for
> that many hours.
>
> But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore
> refuse to give up
> my Jeep.
>
> I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage.
>
>
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
> message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
> | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed?
> Can you rebuild
> | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five
> speed, overdrive?
> | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the
> bellhousing
> | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft
> length may
> | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely
> have change
> | over the year differences, but you should be able to use
> yours. So
> | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you
> hooked up. You
> | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough
> compatibility
> | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
> | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | mailto:--------------------
> |
> | Fennidh wrote:
> | >
> | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
> | >
> | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
> | >
> | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
> | >
> | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
> researching
> | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60
> days or
> | > so.
> | >
> | > Anyone?????
> | >
> | > Thanks In Advance
> | >
> | > JT
> | > LV,NV
>
>




serg 04-30-2004 04:11 PM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
oops! for some reason i thought u wanted to get a t-176...so..i guess you'll
probably have to get a new bellhousing...

"serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c6ubm5$ffk3c$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de...
> i just found this on ebay-if you have the same bellhousing you might be

able
> to use it for you swap...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu
>
> "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05...
> > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.
> >
> > Here it is again...
> >
> >
> > It is a 1977 CJ 5.
> > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear
> > is nothing
> > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal
> > PITA on the
> > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
> > consideration. There
> > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really
> > looking for a
> > bit more top end with lower rpm.
> >
> > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month
> > or so, and
> > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a
> > watch spring for
> > that many hours.
> >
> > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore
> > refuse to give up
> > my Jeep.
> >
> > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
> > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
> > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed?
> > Can you rebuild
> > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five
> > speed, overdrive?
> > | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the
> > bellhousing
> > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft
> > length may
> > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely
> > have change
> > | over the year differences, but you should be able to use
> > yours. So
> > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you
> > hooked up. You
> > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough
> > compatibility
> > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
> > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > | mailto:--------------------
> > |
> > | Fennidh wrote:
> > | >
> > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
> > | >
> > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
> > | >
> > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
> > | >
> > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
> > researching
> > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60
> > days or
> > | > so.
> > | >
> > | > Anyone?????
> > | >
> > | > Thanks In Advance
> > | >
> > | > JT
> > | > LV,NV
> >
> >

>
>




serg 04-30-2004 04:11 PM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
oops! for some reason i thought u wanted to get a t-176...so..i guess you'll
probably have to get a new bellhousing...

"serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c6ubm5$ffk3c$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de...
> i just found this on ebay-if you have the same bellhousing you might be

able
> to use it for you swap...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu
>
> "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05...
> > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.
> >
> > Here it is again...
> >
> >
> > It is a 1977 CJ 5.
> > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear
> > is nothing
> > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal
> > PITA on the
> > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
> > consideration. There
> > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really
> > looking for a
> > bit more top end with lower rpm.
> >
> > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month
> > or so, and
> > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a
> > watch spring for
> > that many hours.
> >
> > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore
> > refuse to give up
> > my Jeep.
> >
> > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
> > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
> > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed?
> > Can you rebuild
> > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five
> > speed, overdrive?
> > | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the
> > bellhousing
> > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft
> > length may
> > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely
> > have change
> > | over the year differences, but you should be able to use
> > yours. So
> > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you
> > hooked up. You
> > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough
> > compatibility
> > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
> > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > | mailto:--------------------
> > |
> > | Fennidh wrote:
> > | >
> > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
> > | >
> > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
> > | >
> > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
> > | >
> > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
> > researching
> > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60
> > days or
> > | > so.
> > | >
> > | > Anyone?????
> > | >
> > | > Thanks In Advance
> > | >
> > | > JT
> > | > LV,NV
> >
> >

>
>




serg 04-30-2004 04:11 PM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
oops! for some reason i thought u wanted to get a t-176...so..i guess you'll
probably have to get a new bellhousing...

"serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c6ubm5$ffk3c$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de...
> i just found this on ebay-if you have the same bellhousing you might be

able
> to use it for you swap...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu
>
> "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05...
> > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.
> >
> > Here it is again...
> >
> >
> > It is a 1977 CJ 5.
> > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear
> > is nothing
> > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal
> > PITA on the
> > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
> > consideration. There
> > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really
> > looking for a
> > bit more top end with lower rpm.
> >
> > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month
> > or so, and
> > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a
> > watch spring for
> > that many hours.
> >
> > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore
> > refuse to give up
> > my Jeep.
> >
> > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
> > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
> > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed?
> > Can you rebuild
> > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five
> > speed, overdrive?
> > | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the
> > bellhousing
> > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft
> > length may
> > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely
> > have change
> > | over the year differences, but you should be able to use
> > yours. So
> > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you
> > hooked up. You
> > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough
> > compatibility
> > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
> > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > | mailto:--------------------
> > |
> > | Fennidh wrote:
> > | >
> > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
> > | >
> > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
> > | >
> > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
> > | >
> > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
> > researching
> > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60
> > days or
> > | > so.
> > | >
> > | > Anyone?????
> > | >
> > | > Thanks In Advance
> > | >
> > | > JT
> > | > LV,NV
> >
> >

>
>




serg 04-30-2004 04:11 PM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
oops! for some reason i thought u wanted to get a t-176...so..i guess you'll
probably have to get a new bellhousing...

"serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c6ubm5$ffk3c$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de...
> i just found this on ebay-if you have the same bellhousing you might be

able
> to use it for you swap...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu
>
> "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05...
> > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong button.
> >
> > Here it is again...
> >
> >
> > It is a 1977 CJ 5.
> > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The low gear
> > is nothing
> > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a royal
> > PITA on the
> > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
> > consideration. There
> > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am really
> > looking for a
> > bit more top end with lower rpm.
> >
> > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other month
> > or so, and
> > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than a
> > watch spring for
> > that many hours.
> >
> > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and therefore
> > refuse to give up
> > my Jeep.
> >
> > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early stage.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
> > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
> > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three speed?
> > Can you rebuild
> > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the five
> > speed, overdrive?
> > | Because the switch remains American, more than likely the
> > bellhousing
> > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and shaft
> > length may
> > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than likely
> > have change
> > | over the year differences, but you should be able to use
> > yours. So
> > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should get you
> > hooked up. You
> > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the rough
> > compatibility
> > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
> > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > | mailto:--------------------
> > |
> > | Fennidh wrote:
> > | >
> > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
> > | >
> > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
> > | >
> > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
> > | >
> > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
> > researching
> > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next 60
> > days or
> > | > so.
> > | >
> > | > Anyone?????
> > | >
> > | > Thanks In Advance
> > | >
> > | > JT
> > | > LV,NV
> >
> >

>
>




Fennidh 04-30-2004 04:17 PM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
they sure are pretty when new, aren't they?


JT



"serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c6ubsr$fl7tj$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de...
| oops! for some reason i thought u wanted to get a
t-176...so..i guess you'll
| probably have to get a new bellhousing...
|
| "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
| news:c6ubm5$ffk3c$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de...
| > i just found this on ebay-if you have the same
bellhousing you might be
| able
| > to use it for you swap...
| >
| > http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu
| >
| > "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05...
| > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong
button.
| > >
| > > Here it is again...
| > >
| > >
| > > It is a 1977 CJ 5.
| > > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The
low gear
| > > is nothing
| > > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a
royal
| > > PITA on the
| > > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
| > > consideration. There
| > > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am
really
| > > looking for a
| > > bit more top end with lower rpm.
| > >
| > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other
month
| > > or so, and
| > > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than
a
| > > watch spring for
| > > that many hours.
| > >
| > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and
therefore
| > > refuse to give up
| > > my Jeep.
| > >
| > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early
stage.
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
| > > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
| > > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three
speed?
| > > Can you rebuild
| > > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the
five
| > > speed, overdrive?
| > > | Because the switch remains American, more than
likely the
| > > bellhousing
| > > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and
shaft
| > > length may
| > > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than
likely
| > > have change
| > > | over the year differences, but you should be able to
use
| > > yours. So
| > > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should
get you
| > > hooked up. You
| > > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the
rough
| > > compatibility
| > > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
| > > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| > > | mailto:--------------------
| > > |
| > > | Fennidh wrote:
| > > | >
| > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
| > > | >
| > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
| > > | >
| > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
| > > | >
| > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
| > > researching
| > > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next
60
| > > days or
| > > | > so.
| > > | >
| > > | > Anyone?????
| > > | >
| > > | > Thanks In Advance
| > > | >
| > > | > JT
| > > | > LV,NV
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
|



Fennidh 04-30-2004 04:17 PM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
they sure are pretty when new, aren't they?


JT



"serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c6ubsr$fl7tj$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de...
| oops! for some reason i thought u wanted to get a
t-176...so..i guess you'll
| probably have to get a new bellhousing...
|
| "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
| news:c6ubm5$ffk3c$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de...
| > i just found this on ebay-if you have the same
bellhousing you might be
| able
| > to use it for you swap...
| >
| > http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu
| >
| > "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05...
| > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong
button.
| > >
| > > Here it is again...
| > >
| > >
| > > It is a 1977 CJ 5.
| > > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The
low gear
| > > is nothing
| > > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a
royal
| > > PITA on the
| > > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
| > > consideration. There
| > > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am
really
| > > looking for a
| > > bit more top end with lower rpm.
| > >
| > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other
month
| > > or so, and
| > > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than
a
| > > watch spring for
| > > that many hours.
| > >
| > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and
therefore
| > > refuse to give up
| > > my Jeep.
| > >
| > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early
stage.
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
| > > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
| > > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three
speed?
| > > Can you rebuild
| > > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the
five
| > > speed, overdrive?
| > > | Because the switch remains American, more than
likely the
| > > bellhousing
| > > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and
shaft
| > > length may
| > > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than
likely
| > > have change
| > > | over the year differences, but you should be able to
use
| > > yours. So
| > > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should
get you
| > > hooked up. You
| > > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the
rough
| > > compatibility
| > > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
| > > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| > > | mailto:--------------------
| > > |
| > > | Fennidh wrote:
| > > | >
| > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
| > > | >
| > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
| > > | >
| > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
| > > | >
| > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
| > > researching
| > > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next
60
| > > days or
| > > | > so.
| > > | >
| > > | > Anyone?????
| > > | >
| > > | > Thanks In Advance
| > > | >
| > > | > JT
| > > | > LV,NV
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
|



Fennidh 04-30-2004 04:17 PM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
they sure are pretty when new, aren't they?


JT



"serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c6ubsr$fl7tj$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de...
| oops! for some reason i thought u wanted to get a
t-176...so..i guess you'll
| probably have to get a new bellhousing...
|
| "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
| news:c6ubm5$ffk3c$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de...
| > i just found this on ebay-if you have the same
bellhousing you might be
| able
| > to use it for you swap...
| >
| > http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu
| >
| > "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05...
| > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong
button.
| > >
| > > Here it is again...
| > >
| > >
| > > It is a 1977 CJ 5.
| > > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The
low gear
| > > is nothing
| > > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a
royal
| > > PITA on the
| > > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
| > > consideration. There
| > > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am
really
| > > looking for a
| > > bit more top end with lower rpm.
| > >
| > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other
month
| > > or so, and
| > > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than
a
| > > watch spring for
| > > that many hours.
| > >
| > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and
therefore
| > > refuse to give up
| > > my Jeep.
| > >
| > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early
stage.
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
| > > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
| > > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three
speed?
| > > Can you rebuild
| > > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the
five
| > > speed, overdrive?
| > > | Because the switch remains American, more than
likely the
| > > bellhousing
| > > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and
shaft
| > > length may
| > > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than
likely
| > > have change
| > > | over the year differences, but you should be able to
use
| > > yours. So
| > > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should
get you
| > > hooked up. You
| > > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the
rough
| > > compatibility
| > > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
| > > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| > > | mailto:--------------------
| > > |
| > > | Fennidh wrote:
| > > | >
| > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
| > > | >
| > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
| > > | >
| > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
| > > | >
| > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
| > > researching
| > > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next
60
| > > days or
| > > | > so.
| > > | >
| > > | > Anyone?????
| > > | >
| > > | > Thanks In Advance
| > > | >
| > > | > JT
| > > | > LV,NV
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
|



Fennidh 04-30-2004 04:17 PM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
they sure are pretty when new, aren't they?


JT



"serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c6ubsr$fl7tj$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de...
| oops! for some reason i thought u wanted to get a
t-176...so..i guess you'll
| probably have to get a new bellhousing...
|
| "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
| news:c6ubm5$ffk3c$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de...
| > i just found this on ebay-if you have the same
bellhousing you might be
| able
| > to use it for you swap...
| >
| > http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu
| >
| > "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05...
| > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong
button.
| > >
| > > Here it is again...
| > >
| > >
| > > It is a 1977 CJ 5.
| > > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The
low gear
| > > is nothing
| > > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a
royal
| > > PITA on the
| > > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
| > > consideration. There
| > > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am
really
| > > looking for a
| > > bit more top end with lower rpm.
| > >
| > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other
month
| > > or so, and
| > > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than
a
| > > watch spring for
| > > that many hours.
| > >
| > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and
therefore
| > > refuse to give up
| > > my Jeep.
| > >
| > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early
stage.
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
| > > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
| > > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three
speed?
| > > Can you rebuild
| > > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the
five
| > > speed, overdrive?
| > > | Because the switch remains American, more than
likely the
| > > bellhousing
| > > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and
shaft
| > > length may
| > > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than
likely
| > > have change
| > > | over the year differences, but you should be able to
use
| > > yours. So
| > > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should
get you
| > > hooked up. You
| > > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the
rough
| > > compatibility
| > > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
| > > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
| > > | mailto:--------------------
| > > |
| > > | Fennidh wrote:
| > > | >
| > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
| > > | >
| > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
| > > | >
| > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
| > > | >
| > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
| > > researching
| > > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next
60
| > > days or
| > > | > so.
| > > | >
| > > | > Anyone?????
| > > | >
| > > | > Thanks In Advance
| > > | >
| > > | > JT
| > > | > LV,NV
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
|



serg 05-01-2004 12:36 AM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
hey-your stuff can look like that too-if you feel like taking it all apart
and getting it blasted that is! yeah, everything looks so nice and clean
when new....after the first run though...

"Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bvykc.17682$6L3.5275@fed1read05...
> they sure are pretty when new, aren't they?
>
>
> JT
>
>
>
> "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:c6ubsr$fl7tj$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de...
> | oops! for some reason i thought u wanted to get a
> t-176...so..i guess you'll
> | probably have to get a new bellhousing...
> |
> | "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> | news:c6ubm5$ffk3c$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de...
> | > i just found this on ebay-if you have the same
> bellhousing you might be
> | able
> | > to use it for you swap...
> | >
> | > http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu
> | >
> | > "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05...
> | > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong
> button.
> | > >
> | > > Here it is again...
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > It is a 1977 CJ 5.
> | > > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The
> low gear
> | > > is nothing
> | > > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a
> royal
> | > > PITA on the
> | > > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
> | > > consideration. There
> | > > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am
> really
> | > > looking for a
> | > > bit more top end with lower rpm.
> | > >
> | > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other
> month
> | > > or so, and
> | > > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than
> a
> | > > watch spring for
> | > > that many hours.
> | > >
> | > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and
> therefore
> | > > refuse to give up
> | > > my Jeep.
> | > >
> | > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early
> stage.
> | > >
> | > >
> | > >
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
> | > > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
> | > > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three
> speed?
> | > > Can you rebuild
> | > > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the
> five
> | > > speed, overdrive?
> | > > | Because the switch remains American, more than
> likely the
> | > > bellhousing
> | > > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and
> shaft
> | > > length may
> | > > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than
> likely
> | > > have change
> | > > | over the year differences, but you should be able to
> use
> | > > yours. So
> | > > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should
> get you
> | > > hooked up. You
> | > > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the
> rough
> | > > compatibility
> | > > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
> | > > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | > > | mailto:--------------------
> | > > |
> | > > | Fennidh wrote:
> | > > | >
> | > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
> | > > | >
> | > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
> | > > | >
> | > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
> | > > | >
> | > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
> | > > researching
> | > > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next
> 60
> | > > days or
> | > > | > so.
> | > > | >
> | > > | > Anyone?????
> | > > | >
> | > > | > Thanks In Advance
> | > > | >
> | > > | > JT
> | > > | > LV,NV
> | > >
> | > >
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>




serg 05-01-2004 12:36 AM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
hey-your stuff can look like that too-if you feel like taking it all apart
and getting it blasted that is! yeah, everything looks so nice and clean
when new....after the first run though...

"Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bvykc.17682$6L3.5275@fed1read05...
> they sure are pretty when new, aren't they?
>
>
> JT
>
>
>
> "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:c6ubsr$fl7tj$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de...
> | oops! for some reason i thought u wanted to get a
> t-176...so..i guess you'll
> | probably have to get a new bellhousing...
> |
> | "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> | news:c6ubm5$ffk3c$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de...
> | > i just found this on ebay-if you have the same
> bellhousing you might be
> | able
> | > to use it for you swap...
> | >
> | > http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu
> | >
> | > "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05...
> | > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong
> button.
> | > >
> | > > Here it is again...
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > It is a 1977 CJ 5.
> | > > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The
> low gear
> | > > is nothing
> | > > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a
> royal
> | > > PITA on the
> | > > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
> | > > consideration. There
> | > > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am
> really
> | > > looking for a
> | > > bit more top end with lower rpm.
> | > >
> | > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other
> month
> | > > or so, and
> | > > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than
> a
> | > > watch spring for
> | > > that many hours.
> | > >
> | > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and
> therefore
> | > > refuse to give up
> | > > my Jeep.
> | > >
> | > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early
> stage.
> | > >
> | > >
> | > >
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
> | > > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
> | > > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three
> speed?
> | > > Can you rebuild
> | > > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the
> five
> | > > speed, overdrive?
> | > > | Because the switch remains American, more than
> likely the
> | > > bellhousing
> | > > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and
> shaft
> | > > length may
> | > > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than
> likely
> | > > have change
> | > > | over the year differences, but you should be able to
> use
> | > > yours. So
> | > > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should
> get you
> | > > hooked up. You
> | > > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the
> rough
> | > > compatibility
> | > > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
> | > > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | > > | mailto:--------------------
> | > > |
> | > > | Fennidh wrote:
> | > > | >
> | > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
> | > > | >
> | > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
> | > > | >
> | > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
> | > > | >
> | > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
> | > > researching
> | > > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next
> 60
> | > > days or
> | > > | > so.
> | > > | >
> | > > | > Anyone?????
> | > > | >
> | > > | > Thanks In Advance
> | > > | >
> | > > | > JT
> | > > | > LV,NV
> | > >
> | > >
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>




serg 05-01-2004 12:36 AM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
hey-your stuff can look like that too-if you feel like taking it all apart
and getting it blasted that is! yeah, everything looks so nice and clean
when new....after the first run though...

"Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bvykc.17682$6L3.5275@fed1read05...
> they sure are pretty when new, aren't they?
>
>
> JT
>
>
>
> "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:c6ubsr$fl7tj$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de...
> | oops! for some reason i thought u wanted to get a
> t-176...so..i guess you'll
> | probably have to get a new bellhousing...
> |
> | "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> | news:c6ubm5$ffk3c$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de...
> | > i just found this on ebay-if you have the same
> bellhousing you might be
> | able
> | > to use it for you swap...
> | >
> | > http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu
> | >
> | > "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05...
> | > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong
> button.
> | > >
> | > > Here it is again...
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > It is a 1977 CJ 5.
> | > > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The
> low gear
> | > > is nothing
> | > > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a
> royal
> | > > PITA on the
> | > > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
> | > > consideration. There
> | > > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am
> really
> | > > looking for a
> | > > bit more top end with lower rpm.
> | > >
> | > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other
> month
> | > > or so, and
> | > > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than
> a
> | > > watch spring for
> | > > that many hours.
> | > >
> | > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and
> therefore
> | > > refuse to give up
> | > > my Jeep.
> | > >
> | > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early
> stage.
> | > >
> | > >
> | > >
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
> | > > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
> | > > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three
> speed?
> | > > Can you rebuild
> | > > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the
> five
> | > > speed, overdrive?
> | > > | Because the switch remains American, more than
> likely the
> | > > bellhousing
> | > > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and
> shaft
> | > > length may
> | > > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than
> likely
> | > > have change
> | > > | over the year differences, but you should be able to
> use
> | > > yours. So
> | > > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should
> get you
> | > > hooked up. You
> | > > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the
> rough
> | > > compatibility
> | > > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
> | > > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | > > | mailto:--------------------
> | > > |
> | > > | Fennidh wrote:
> | > > | >
> | > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
> | > > | >
> | > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
> | > > | >
> | > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
> | > > | >
> | > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
> | > > researching
> | > > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next
> 60
> | > > days or
> | > > | > so.
> | > > | >
> | > > | > Anyone?????
> | > > | >
> | > > | > Thanks In Advance
> | > > | >
> | > > | > JT
> | > > | > LV,NV
> | > >
> | > >
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>




serg 05-01-2004 12:36 AM

Re: Mike or Bill or anyone else wanna spell it out......
 
hey-your stuff can look like that too-if you feel like taking it all apart
and getting it blasted that is! yeah, everything looks so nice and clean
when new....after the first run though...

"Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bvykc.17682$6L3.5275@fed1read05...
> they sure are pretty when new, aren't they?
>
>
> JT
>
>
>
> "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:c6ubsr$fl7tj$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de...
> | oops! for some reason i thought u wanted to get a
> t-176...so..i guess you'll
> | probably have to get a new bellhousing...
> |
> | "serg" <sfonNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> | news:c6ubm5$ffk3c$1@ID-208627.news.uni-berlin.de...
> | > i just found this on ebay-if you have the same
> bellhousing you might be
> | able
> | > to use it for you swap...
> | >
> | > http://tinyurl.com/3f8tu
> | >
> | > "Fennidh" <bdl300wmag.@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > news:JMjkc.15667$6L3.2010@fed1read05...
> | > > Sorry Bill, I meant this to go here, hit the wrong
> button.
> | > >
> | > > Here it is again...
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > It is a 1977 CJ 5.
> | > > It is a T150, I think that means it's a Tremec. The
> low gear
> | > > is nothing
> | > > special in it, and the fact that it is a 3 speed is a
> royal
> | > > PITA on the
> | > > highway. So, yes, your right, the overdrive is a major
> | > > consideration. There
> | > > is nothing wrong with the three speed actually, I am
> really
> | > > looking for a
> | > > bit more top end with lower rpm.
> | > >
> | > > I have need of long highway drives (800mi) every other
> month
> | > > or so, and
> | > > don't like feeling like I have her wound tighter than
> a
> | > > watch spring for
> | > > that many hours.
> | > >
> | > > But I decided to indulge my childish nature and
> therefore
> | > > refuse to give up
> | > > my Jeep.
> | > >
> | > > I am still open to ideas or suggestions at this early
> stage.
> | > >
> | > >
> | > >
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in
> | > > message news:4091AF1C.AB2F09AD@cox.net...
> | > > | You mean a Borg Warner T-15 heavy duty three
> speed?
> | > > Can you rebuild
> | > > | it? Or are willing to sacrifice strength for the
> five
> | > > speed, overdrive?
> | > > | Because the switch remains American, more than
> likely the
> | > > bellhousing
> | > > | hole pattern, pressure plate, and pilot bearing and
> shaft
> | > > length may
> | > > | remain the same. Throw out bearings will more than
> likely
> | > > have change
> | > > | over the year differences, but you should be able to
> use
> | > > yours. So
> | > > | probably just the smaller input shaft disk should
> get you
> | > > hooked up. You
> | > > | didn't give us any years, so you might check the
> rough
> | > > compatibility
> | > > | via: http://www.----------.com/clutch/index.htm
> | > > | God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> | > > | mailto:--------------------
> | > > |
> | > > | Fennidh wrote:
> | > > | >
> | > > | > For a CJ5 with 258/T150/D20
> | > > | >
> | > > | > I want to change to 258/T5/D300.
> | > > | >
> | > > | > Here it is. Do I need a bellhousing? ....adapter?
> | > > | >
> | > > | > I know the D300 lines with my axles. I am just
> | > > researching
> | > > | > this in earnest, but plan the project in the next
> 60
> | > > days or
> | > > | > so.
> | > > | >
> | > > | > Anyone?????
> | > > | >
> | > > | > Thanks In Advance
> | > > | >
> | > > | > JT
> | > > | > LV,NV
> | > >
> | > >
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>





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