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Re: Mexico Trip
Michael White did pass the time by typing:
> Bill, > > Thanks for the info. I figured on the passport, and I've dealt with the > bribes to the locals at the border towns. The firearm is an interesting > conundrum that I'm still noodling. Didn't know about the Premix gas (never > needed a fill-up there) - any solution to that one, short of hauling a 50 > gallon drum of gas in the back? Or are there other brands available there? About that firearm.. DO NOT TAKE IT OR ANY AMMO ACROSS THE BORDER PERIOD! Unless you actually want to be in a Mexican jail for a few years. http://www.mexonline.com/mexguns.htm And the laws on hunting, the ONLY legal way to bring a firearm into Mexico. http://www.mexonline.com/huntmex.htm My opinion is if a place is so dangerous I'll need a weapon I simply go somewhere else. Economics will eventually prevail. .... PMEX is the oil industry in mexico, it's a state run monopoly. Read here. http://www.mexadventure.com/Mexico_Fuel.cfm Head the warning about bringing spare fuel filters. It's not as common as in the past (especially if you buy off the major roads) but get back in the boondocks and you could get a tank of crapoline. A couple cans of Octane booster/Water eliminator is also a good idea. .... You should also pick up vehicle insurance for Mexico. Most US plans will not cover you there and the Mexican insurance is very helpful if you get in any altercation. AAA can fill you in on this. .... Not to be too pessamistic, this applies to certain third world contries I've been to. If you park somewhere and will be away from your vehicle consider taking the primary ignition wire with you. It won't protect against vandalism but it can prevent someone from driving off with your wheels. ...sidenote.. some thieves carry a spare now. :/ -- DougW |
Re: Mexico Trip
Michael White did pass the time by typing:
> Bill, > > Thanks for the info. I figured on the passport, and I've dealt with the > bribes to the locals at the border towns. The firearm is an interesting > conundrum that I'm still noodling. Didn't know about the Premix gas (never > needed a fill-up there) - any solution to that one, short of hauling a 50 > gallon drum of gas in the back? Or are there other brands available there? About that firearm.. DO NOT TAKE IT OR ANY AMMO ACROSS THE BORDER PERIOD! Unless you actually want to be in a Mexican jail for a few years. http://www.mexonline.com/mexguns.htm And the laws on hunting, the ONLY legal way to bring a firearm into Mexico. http://www.mexonline.com/huntmex.htm My opinion is if a place is so dangerous I'll need a weapon I simply go somewhere else. Economics will eventually prevail. .... PMEX is the oil industry in mexico, it's a state run monopoly. Read here. http://www.mexadventure.com/Mexico_Fuel.cfm Head the warning about bringing spare fuel filters. It's not as common as in the past (especially if you buy off the major roads) but get back in the boondocks and you could get a tank of crapoline. A couple cans of Octane booster/Water eliminator is also a good idea. .... You should also pick up vehicle insurance for Mexico. Most US plans will not cover you there and the Mexican insurance is very helpful if you get in any altercation. AAA can fill you in on this. .... Not to be too pessamistic, this applies to certain third world contries I've been to. If you park somewhere and will be away from your vehicle consider taking the primary ignition wire with you. It won't protect against vandalism but it can prevent someone from driving off with your wheels. ...sidenote.. some thieves carry a spare now. :/ -- DougW |
Re: Mexico Trip
Michael White did pass the time by typing:
> Bill, > > Thanks for the info. I figured on the passport, and I've dealt with the > bribes to the locals at the border towns. The firearm is an interesting > conundrum that I'm still noodling. Didn't know about the Premix gas (never > needed a fill-up there) - any solution to that one, short of hauling a 50 > gallon drum of gas in the back? Or are there other brands available there? About that firearm.. DO NOT TAKE IT OR ANY AMMO ACROSS THE BORDER PERIOD! Unless you actually want to be in a Mexican jail for a few years. http://www.mexonline.com/mexguns.htm And the laws on hunting, the ONLY legal way to bring a firearm into Mexico. http://www.mexonline.com/huntmex.htm My opinion is if a place is so dangerous I'll need a weapon I simply go somewhere else. Economics will eventually prevail. .... PMEX is the oil industry in mexico, it's a state run monopoly. Read here. http://www.mexadventure.com/Mexico_Fuel.cfm Head the warning about bringing spare fuel filters. It's not as common as in the past (especially if you buy off the major roads) but get back in the boondocks and you could get a tank of crapoline. A couple cans of Octane booster/Water eliminator is also a good idea. .... You should also pick up vehicle insurance for Mexico. Most US plans will not cover you there and the Mexican insurance is very helpful if you get in any altercation. AAA can fill you in on this. .... Not to be too pessamistic, this applies to certain third world contries I've been to. If you park somewhere and will be away from your vehicle consider taking the primary ignition wire with you. It won't protect against vandalism but it can prevent someone from driving off with your wheels. ...sidenote.. some thieves carry a spare now. :/ -- DougW |
Re: Mexico Trip
Michael --
I have made two trips from SoCal to Todos Santos, which is just above Cabo San Lucas in Baja California. Once in a 93 Cherokee, once in a 05 Wrangler. Each time I took off on unpaved, deeply rutted roads over mountains. I don't think you could call them trails, but each involved about 4 to 6 hours of driving at speeds ranging from a 4L crawl to maybe 40mph. I averaged about 12mph. I think I saw one pickup on one of the trips. There are multiple sharp switch-backs, many drop-offs, a few fords, and of course, no guard rails or signs. The occasional road off to a rancho is easily confused with the "highway" and you pretty much have to expect to get a bit lost, or at least uncertain where you are. If you want to drink a beer as you drive, no ones's going to stop you. If you want to do a bit of Baja Racer, no one's going to stop you. Of course, if you crash, no one's going to know it. Both roads went by old (1700s) missions (Borca and San Javier) and can be found on any map of Baja. For someone throughly sick of the overcrowding of Southern California, there is a deep pleasure in the miles and miles of open country, bad roads, unmarked intersections, and clear skys. The driving is not technical, but it's a good use of a jeep. I was just told by someone here in Todos Santos that there is some nice country just off the highway from Tecate to Ensenada. He used to go quail hunting there. I don't know of any specific roads there, but my experience is that any road on a Baja map that is marked as poor is a good road to take. On the gas and gun thing: Pemex 87 has caused me no problems in over 10,000 miles of driving here. There are plenty of well stocked stations. Leave the gun home. Don't even think about it. And the Federales. I got stopped for speeding (I was speeding). He was like the guy next door. No US-style cop intimidation. We talked about where I was from, where I was going, the weather, how nice Mexico was. Finally I asked whether there was any way to settle this now, on the spot. He shrugged. I said, doscientos? He shrugged. I offered docscientos. He took it. I said muchas gracias, he waved good bye, I waved good bye, and that was it. I'll take that any day in preference to my last California chicken ---- speeding ticket. The cop was an ------- and I ended up paying around $500. Doscientos is about $20. Bob Brown |
Re: Mexico Trip
Michael --
I have made two trips from SoCal to Todos Santos, which is just above Cabo San Lucas in Baja California. Once in a 93 Cherokee, once in a 05 Wrangler. Each time I took off on unpaved, deeply rutted roads over mountains. I don't think you could call them trails, but each involved about 4 to 6 hours of driving at speeds ranging from a 4L crawl to maybe 40mph. I averaged about 12mph. I think I saw one pickup on one of the trips. There are multiple sharp switch-backs, many drop-offs, a few fords, and of course, no guard rails or signs. The occasional road off to a rancho is easily confused with the "highway" and you pretty much have to expect to get a bit lost, or at least uncertain where you are. If you want to drink a beer as you drive, no ones's going to stop you. If you want to do a bit of Baja Racer, no one's going to stop you. Of course, if you crash, no one's going to know it. Both roads went by old (1700s) missions (Borca and San Javier) and can be found on any map of Baja. For someone throughly sick of the overcrowding of Southern California, there is a deep pleasure in the miles and miles of open country, bad roads, unmarked intersections, and clear skys. The driving is not technical, but it's a good use of a jeep. I was just told by someone here in Todos Santos that there is some nice country just off the highway from Tecate to Ensenada. He used to go quail hunting there. I don't know of any specific roads there, but my experience is that any road on a Baja map that is marked as poor is a good road to take. On the gas and gun thing: Pemex 87 has caused me no problems in over 10,000 miles of driving here. There are plenty of well stocked stations. Leave the gun home. Don't even think about it. And the Federales. I got stopped for speeding (I was speeding). He was like the guy next door. No US-style cop intimidation. We talked about where I was from, where I was going, the weather, how nice Mexico was. Finally I asked whether there was any way to settle this now, on the spot. He shrugged. I said, doscientos? He shrugged. I offered docscientos. He took it. I said muchas gracias, he waved good bye, I waved good bye, and that was it. I'll take that any day in preference to my last California chicken ---- speeding ticket. The cop was an ------- and I ended up paying around $500. Doscientos is about $20. Bob Brown |
Re: Mexico Trip
Michael --
I have made two trips from SoCal to Todos Santos, which is just above Cabo San Lucas in Baja California. Once in a 93 Cherokee, once in a 05 Wrangler. Each time I took off on unpaved, deeply rutted roads over mountains. I don't think you could call them trails, but each involved about 4 to 6 hours of driving at speeds ranging from a 4L crawl to maybe 40mph. I averaged about 12mph. I think I saw one pickup on one of the trips. There are multiple sharp switch-backs, many drop-offs, a few fords, and of course, no guard rails or signs. The occasional road off to a rancho is easily confused with the "highway" and you pretty much have to expect to get a bit lost, or at least uncertain where you are. If you want to drink a beer as you drive, no ones's going to stop you. If you want to do a bit of Baja Racer, no one's going to stop you. Of course, if you crash, no one's going to know it. Both roads went by old (1700s) missions (Borca and San Javier) and can be found on any map of Baja. For someone throughly sick of the overcrowding of Southern California, there is a deep pleasure in the miles and miles of open country, bad roads, unmarked intersections, and clear skys. The driving is not technical, but it's a good use of a jeep. I was just told by someone here in Todos Santos that there is some nice country just off the highway from Tecate to Ensenada. He used to go quail hunting there. I don't know of any specific roads there, but my experience is that any road on a Baja map that is marked as poor is a good road to take. On the gas and gun thing: Pemex 87 has caused me no problems in over 10,000 miles of driving here. There are plenty of well stocked stations. Leave the gun home. Don't even think about it. And the Federales. I got stopped for speeding (I was speeding). He was like the guy next door. No US-style cop intimidation. We talked about where I was from, where I was going, the weather, how nice Mexico was. Finally I asked whether there was any way to settle this now, on the spot. He shrugged. I said, doscientos? He shrugged. I offered docscientos. He took it. I said muchas gracias, he waved good bye, I waved good bye, and that was it. I'll take that any day in preference to my last California chicken ---- speeding ticket. The cop was an ------- and I ended up paying around $500. Doscientos is about $20. Bob Brown |
Re: Mexico Trip
Michael --
I have made two trips from SoCal to Todos Santos, which is just above Cabo San Lucas in Baja California. Once in a 93 Cherokee, once in a 05 Wrangler. Each time I took off on unpaved, deeply rutted roads over mountains. I don't think you could call them trails, but each involved about 4 to 6 hours of driving at speeds ranging from a 4L crawl to maybe 40mph. I averaged about 12mph. I think I saw one pickup on one of the trips. There are multiple sharp switch-backs, many drop-offs, a few fords, and of course, no guard rails or signs. The occasional road off to a rancho is easily confused with the "highway" and you pretty much have to expect to get a bit lost, or at least uncertain where you are. If you want to drink a beer as you drive, no ones's going to stop you. If you want to do a bit of Baja Racer, no one's going to stop you. Of course, if you crash, no one's going to know it. Both roads went by old (1700s) missions (Borca and San Javier) and can be found on any map of Baja. For someone throughly sick of the overcrowding of Southern California, there is a deep pleasure in the miles and miles of open country, bad roads, unmarked intersections, and clear skys. The driving is not technical, but it's a good use of a jeep. I was just told by someone here in Todos Santos that there is some nice country just off the highway from Tecate to Ensenada. He used to go quail hunting there. I don't know of any specific roads there, but my experience is that any road on a Baja map that is marked as poor is a good road to take. On the gas and gun thing: Pemex 87 has caused me no problems in over 10,000 miles of driving here. There are plenty of well stocked stations. Leave the gun home. Don't even think about it. And the Federales. I got stopped for speeding (I was speeding). He was like the guy next door. No US-style cop intimidation. We talked about where I was from, where I was going, the weather, how nice Mexico was. Finally I asked whether there was any way to settle this now, on the spot. He shrugged. I said, doscientos? He shrugged. I offered docscientos. He took it. I said muchas gracias, he waved good bye, I waved good bye, and that was it. I'll take that any day in preference to my last California chicken ---- speeding ticket. The cop was an ------- and I ended up paying around $500. Doscientos is about $20. Bob Brown |
Re: Mexico Trip
here here, our crap police are just $$$$$$ grubbers......tax collectors for
the local municipitality. They do some good, I understand that, but generally, overall......they're all a bunch of bastards!!!!! rgb wrote: >Michael -- > >I have made two trips from SoCal to Todos Santos, which is just above >Cabo San Lucas in Baja California. Once in a 93 Cherokee, once in a 05 >Wrangler. > >Each time I took off on unpaved, deeply rutted roads over mountains. I >don't think you could call them trails, but each involved about 4 to 6 >hours of driving at speeds ranging from a 4L crawl to maybe 40mph. I >averaged about 12mph. I think I saw one pickup on one of the trips. >There are multiple sharp switch-backs, many drop-offs, a few fords, and >of course, no guard rails or signs. The occasional road off to a >rancho is easily confused with the "highway" and you pretty much have >to expect to get a bit lost, or at least uncertain where you are. If >you want to drink a beer as you drive, no ones's going to stop you. If >you want to do a bit of Baja Racer, no one's going to stop you. Of >course, if you crash, no one's going to know it. > >Both roads went by old (1700s) missions (Borca and San Javier) and can >be found on any map of Baja. > >For someone throughly sick of the overcrowding of Southern California, >there is a deep pleasure in the miles and miles of open country, bad >roads, unmarked intersections, and clear skys. The driving is not >technical, but it's a good use of a jeep. > >I was just told by someone here in Todos Santos that there is some nice >country just off the highway from Tecate to Ensenada. He used to go >quail hunting there. I don't know of any specific roads there, but my >experience is that any road on a Baja map that is marked as poor is a >good road to take. > >On the gas and gun thing: Pemex 87 has caused me no problems in over >10,000 miles of driving here. There are plenty of well stocked >stations. Leave the gun home. Don't even think about it. > >And the Federales. I got stopped for speeding (I was speeding). He >was like the guy next door. No US-style cop intimidation. We talked >about where I was from, where I was going, the weather, how nice Mexico >was. Finally I asked whether there was any way to settle this now, on >the spot. He shrugged. I said, doscientos? He shrugged. I offered >docscientos. He took it. I said muchas gracias, he waved good bye, I >waved good bye, and that was it. I'll take that any day in preference >to my last California chicken ---- speeding ticket. The cop was an >------- and I ended up paying around $500. Doscientos is about $20. > >Bob Brown -- Message posted via CarKB.com http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200506/1 |
Re: Mexico Trip
here here, our crap police are just $$$$$$ grubbers......tax collectors for
the local municipitality. They do some good, I understand that, but generally, overall......they're all a bunch of bastards!!!!! rgb wrote: >Michael -- > >I have made two trips from SoCal to Todos Santos, which is just above >Cabo San Lucas in Baja California. Once in a 93 Cherokee, once in a 05 >Wrangler. > >Each time I took off on unpaved, deeply rutted roads over mountains. I >don't think you could call them trails, but each involved about 4 to 6 >hours of driving at speeds ranging from a 4L crawl to maybe 40mph. I >averaged about 12mph. I think I saw one pickup on one of the trips. >There are multiple sharp switch-backs, many drop-offs, a few fords, and >of course, no guard rails or signs. The occasional road off to a >rancho is easily confused with the "highway" and you pretty much have >to expect to get a bit lost, or at least uncertain where you are. If >you want to drink a beer as you drive, no ones's going to stop you. If >you want to do a bit of Baja Racer, no one's going to stop you. Of >course, if you crash, no one's going to know it. > >Both roads went by old (1700s) missions (Borca and San Javier) and can >be found on any map of Baja. > >For someone throughly sick of the overcrowding of Southern California, >there is a deep pleasure in the miles and miles of open country, bad >roads, unmarked intersections, and clear skys. The driving is not >technical, but it's a good use of a jeep. > >I was just told by someone here in Todos Santos that there is some nice >country just off the highway from Tecate to Ensenada. He used to go >quail hunting there. I don't know of any specific roads there, but my >experience is that any road on a Baja map that is marked as poor is a >good road to take. > >On the gas and gun thing: Pemex 87 has caused me no problems in over >10,000 miles of driving here. There are plenty of well stocked >stations. Leave the gun home. Don't even think about it. > >And the Federales. I got stopped for speeding (I was speeding). He >was like the guy next door. No US-style cop intimidation. We talked >about where I was from, where I was going, the weather, how nice Mexico >was. Finally I asked whether there was any way to settle this now, on >the spot. He shrugged. I said, doscientos? He shrugged. I offered >docscientos. He took it. I said muchas gracias, he waved good bye, I >waved good bye, and that was it. I'll take that any day in preference >to my last California chicken ---- speeding ticket. The cop was an >------- and I ended up paying around $500. Doscientos is about $20. > >Bob Brown -- Message posted via CarKB.com http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200506/1 |
Re: Mexico Trip
here here, our crap police are just $$$$$$ grubbers......tax collectors for
the local municipitality. They do some good, I understand that, but generally, overall......they're all a bunch of bastards!!!!! rgb wrote: >Michael -- > >I have made two trips from SoCal to Todos Santos, which is just above >Cabo San Lucas in Baja California. Once in a 93 Cherokee, once in a 05 >Wrangler. > >Each time I took off on unpaved, deeply rutted roads over mountains. I >don't think you could call them trails, but each involved about 4 to 6 >hours of driving at speeds ranging from a 4L crawl to maybe 40mph. I >averaged about 12mph. I think I saw one pickup on one of the trips. >There are multiple sharp switch-backs, many drop-offs, a few fords, and >of course, no guard rails or signs. The occasional road off to a >rancho is easily confused with the "highway" and you pretty much have >to expect to get a bit lost, or at least uncertain where you are. If >you want to drink a beer as you drive, no ones's going to stop you. If >you want to do a bit of Baja Racer, no one's going to stop you. Of >course, if you crash, no one's going to know it. > >Both roads went by old (1700s) missions (Borca and San Javier) and can >be found on any map of Baja. > >For someone throughly sick of the overcrowding of Southern California, >there is a deep pleasure in the miles and miles of open country, bad >roads, unmarked intersections, and clear skys. The driving is not >technical, but it's a good use of a jeep. > >I was just told by someone here in Todos Santos that there is some nice >country just off the highway from Tecate to Ensenada. He used to go >quail hunting there. I don't know of any specific roads there, but my >experience is that any road on a Baja map that is marked as poor is a >good road to take. > >On the gas and gun thing: Pemex 87 has caused me no problems in over >10,000 miles of driving here. There are plenty of well stocked >stations. Leave the gun home. Don't even think about it. > >And the Federales. I got stopped for speeding (I was speeding). He >was like the guy next door. No US-style cop intimidation. We talked >about where I was from, where I was going, the weather, how nice Mexico >was. Finally I asked whether there was any way to settle this now, on >the spot. He shrugged. I said, doscientos? He shrugged. I offered >docscientos. He took it. I said muchas gracias, he waved good bye, I >waved good bye, and that was it. I'll take that any day in preference >to my last California chicken ---- speeding ticket. The cop was an >------- and I ended up paying around $500. Doscientos is about $20. > >Bob Brown -- Message posted via CarKB.com http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200506/1 |
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