Re: MCU?
 

In article <tIwbj.3473$fr2.3100@read2.cgocable.net>,
"JEEPR" <jeepr@NOSPAMcanada.com> wrote:

> > Only one more E test too eh. Too bad it messed up just then.
>
> New rules, vehicles 1988 or newer have to be tested every 2 years.
>
> Copy and paste.
>
> 1988 vehicles -- which require emissions tests in 2007 -- will need to be
> tested again in 2009 and every two years after that for registration
> renewal. Similarly, 1989 models will require testing in 2008 and every two
> years after that. As well, the requirement for a valid Drive Clean pass for
> ownership transfer will continue to apply to 1988 and newer models.
>
> Loks like they are really trying to force us off the road.

How would that be?

Re: MCU?
 

JEEPR wrote:
>> Only one more E test too eh. Too bad it messed up just then.
>
> New rules, vehicles 1988 or newer have to be tested every 2 years.
>
> Copy and paste.
>
> 1988 vehicles -- which require emissions tests in 2007 -- will need
> to be tested again in 2009 and every two years after that for
> registration renewal. Similarly, 1989 models will require testing in
> 2008 and every two years after that. As well, the requirement for a
> valid Drive Clean pass for ownership transfer will continue to apply
> to 1988 and newer models.
> Loks like they are really trying to force us off the road.

The interesting thing is looking at the results from emissions tests
in california from folks that did the nutter bypass. The emissions
numbers were better than some new vehicles.

--
DougW

Re: MCU?
 

JEEPR wrote:
>> Only one more E test too eh. Too bad it messed up just then.
>
> New rules, vehicles 1988 or newer have to be tested every 2 years.
>
> Copy and paste.
>
> 1988 vehicles -- which require emissions tests in 2007 -- will need
> to be tested again in 2009 and every two years after that for
> registration renewal. Similarly, 1989 models will require testing in
> 2008 and every two years after that. As well, the requirement for a
> valid Drive Clean pass for ownership transfer will continue to apply
> to 1988 and newer models.
> Loks like they are really trying to force us off the road.

The interesting thing is looking at the results from emissions tests
in california from folks that did the nutter bypass. The emissions
numbers were better than some new vehicles.

--
DougW

Re: MCU?
 

"DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:ezxbj.35776$Qf1.16051@newsfe07.phx...
> JEEPR wrote:
>>> Only one more E test too eh. Too bad it messed up just then.
>>
>> New rules, vehicles 1988 or newer have to be tested every 2 years.
>>
>> Copy and paste.
>>
>> 1988 vehicles -- which require emissions tests in 2007 -- will need
>> to be tested again in 2009 and every two years after that for
>> registration renewal. Similarly, 1989 models will require testing in
>> 2008 and every two years after that. As well, the requirement for a
>> valid Drive Clean pass for ownership transfer will continue to apply
>> to 1988 and newer models.
>> Loks like they are really trying to force us off the road.
>
> The interesting thing is looking at the results from emissions tests
> in california from folks that did the nutter bypass. The emissions
> numbers were better than some new vehicles.
>
When I was a full time mechanic, back in the 70s-80s, we figured pollution
controls didn't do anything except hurt your performance. I guess we were
right. Now though, the new stuff might be alright.

Saludos,

Earle



--
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Re: MCU?
 

"DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:ezxbj.35776$Qf1.16051@newsfe07.phx...
> JEEPR wrote:
>>> Only one more E test too eh. Too bad it messed up just then.
>>
>> New rules, vehicles 1988 or newer have to be tested every 2 years.
>>
>> Copy and paste.
>>
>> 1988 vehicles -- which require emissions tests in 2007 -- will need
>> to be tested again in 2009 and every two years after that for
>> registration renewal. Similarly, 1989 models will require testing in
>> 2008 and every two years after that. As well, the requirement for a
>> valid Drive Clean pass for ownership transfer will continue to apply
>> to 1988 and newer models.
>> Loks like they are really trying to force us off the road.
>
> The interesting thing is looking at the results from emissions tests
> in california from folks that did the nutter bypass. The emissions
> numbers were better than some new vehicles.
>
When I was a full time mechanic, back in the 70s-80s, we figured pollution
controls didn't do anything except hurt your performance. I guess we were
right. Now though, the new stuff might be alright.

Saludos,

Earle



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Re: MCU?
 

DougW wrote:
> JEEPR wrote:
>>> Only one more E test too eh. Too bad it messed up just then.
>> New rules, vehicles 1988 or newer have to be tested every 2 years.
>>
>> Copy and paste.
>>
>> 1988 vehicles -- which require emissions tests in 2007 -- will need
>> to be tested again in 2009 and every two years after that for
>> registration renewal. Similarly, 1989 models will require testing in
>> 2008 and every two years after that. As well, the requirement for a
>> valid Drive Clean pass for ownership transfer will continue to apply
>> to 1988 and newer models.
>> Loks like they are really trying to force us off the road.
>
> The interesting thing is looking at the results from emissions tests
> in california from folks that did the nutter bypass. The emissions
> numbers were better than some new vehicles.
>

My numbers and a half dozen others I have done also are really good.
Good enough my Jeep draws a crowd of mechanics when it gets tested.

My last numbers on the ASM 2525 test were 589 NOx, 16 ppm HC and 0.11%
CO here in Canada.

That 'will' pass in California also. If the plumbing is just
strategically blocked with ball bearings and left, no one can tell the
difference in a visual inspection either.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build
Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com

Re: MCU?
 

DougW wrote:
> JEEPR wrote:
>>> Only one more E test too eh. Too bad it messed up just then.
>> New rules, vehicles 1988 or newer have to be tested every 2 years.
>>
>> Copy and paste.
>>
>> 1988 vehicles -- which require emissions tests in 2007 -- will need
>> to be tested again in 2009 and every two years after that for
>> registration renewal. Similarly, 1989 models will require testing in
>> 2008 and every two years after that. As well, the requirement for a
>> valid Drive Clean pass for ownership transfer will continue to apply
>> to 1988 and newer models.
>> Loks like they are really trying to force us off the road.
>
> The interesting thing is looking at the results from emissions tests
> in california from folks that did the nutter bypass. The emissions
> numbers were better than some new vehicles.
>

My numbers and a half dozen others I have done also are really good.
Good enough my Jeep draws a crowd of mechanics when it gets tested.

My last numbers on the ASM 2525 test were 589 NOx, 16 ppm HC and 0.11%
CO here in Canada.

That 'will' pass in California also. If the plumbing is just
strategically blocked with ball bearings and left, no one can tell the
difference in a visual inspection either.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build
Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com

Re: MCU?
 

aarcuda69062 wrote:
> In article <tIwbj.3473$fr2.3100@read2.cgocable.net>,
> "JEEPR" <jeepr@NOSPAMcanada.com> wrote:
>
>>> Only one more E test too eh. Too bad it messed up just then.
>> New rules, vehicles 1988 or newer have to be tested every 2 years.
>>
>> Copy and paste.
>>
>> 1988 vehicles -- which require emissions tests in 2007 -- will need to be
>> tested again in 2009 and every two years after that for registration
>> renewal. Similarly, 1989 models will require testing in 2008 and every two
>> years after that. As well, the requirement for a valid Drive Clean pass for
>> ownership transfer will continue to apply to 1988 and newer models.
>>
>> Loks like they are really trying to force us off the road.
>
> How would that be?

Because there isn't anyone left in the garages that knows how to work on
them so they just toss things like an $800.00 MCU at it and just 'hope'
it isn't a shorted sensor that took out the MCU in the freaking first
place.

This get too expensive and folks junk them because most are borderline
for being rusted out anyway.

I have actually fixed a mess of MCU's that were blown from a sensor or
fuel pump even, short. Usually it's the input diode or resistor popped.
If the board isn't sunk in rosin, parts can be changed.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build
Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com

Re: MCU?
 

aarcuda69062 wrote:
> In article <tIwbj.3473$fr2.3100@read2.cgocable.net>,
> "JEEPR" <jeepr@NOSPAMcanada.com> wrote:
>
>>> Only one more E test too eh. Too bad it messed up just then.
>> New rules, vehicles 1988 or newer have to be tested every 2 years.
>>
>> Copy and paste.
>>
>> 1988 vehicles -- which require emissions tests in 2007 -- will need to be
>> tested again in 2009 and every two years after that for registration
>> renewal. Similarly, 1989 models will require testing in 2008 and every two
>> years after that. As well, the requirement for a valid Drive Clean pass for
>> ownership transfer will continue to apply to 1988 and newer models.
>>
>> Loks like they are really trying to force us off the road.
>
> How would that be?

Because there isn't anyone left in the garages that knows how to work on
them so they just toss things like an $800.00 MCU at it and just 'hope'
it isn't a shorted sensor that took out the MCU in the freaking first
place.

This get too expensive and folks junk them because most are borderline
for being rusted out anyway.

I have actually fixed a mess of MCU's that were blown from a sensor or
fuel pump even, short. Usually it's the input diode or resistor popped.
If the board isn't sunk in rosin, parts can be changed.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build
Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com

Re: MCU?
 

JEEPR wrote:
>> Only one more E test too eh. Too bad it messed up just then.
>
> New rules, vehicles 1988 or newer have to be tested every 2 years.
>
> Copy and paste.
>
> 1988 vehicles -- which require emissions tests in 2007 -- will need to be
> tested again in 2009 and every two years after that for registration
> renewal. Similarly, 1989 models will require testing in 2008 and every two
> years after that. As well, the requirement for a valid Drive Clean pass for
> ownership transfer will continue to apply to 1988 and newer models.
>
> Loks like they are really trying to force us off the road.
>
>

They just want the bucks!

It is still an 'extortion' test because you can pay a certain amount for
emissions related repairs and get a pass no matter the sniffer, right?

Is it possible someone has already put your computer to sleep and you
just didn't know it?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build
Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com