Which manual should I get?
 

I just bought a 1988 Wrangler with a soft top. The odometer has 93K,
and I bought it from a service shop that had just replaced the 4.2L
engine with another one that has about 50K. The car is a little hard to
start in the cold (I live in the Poconos), but is running pretty well
so far. I want to get the owners manual and a service manual, but I
don't know which one is best. I can get the owners manual online from
Collins Brothers for $20 plus about $10 shipping. They also have the
Jeep shop manual for $129--which doesn't seem worth it to me. Of
course, I can also get the Chilton's or Haynes manuals. Any advice?

Re: Which manual should I get?
 

If you plan on doing most repairs yourself you will find that the Factory
Service Manual is the reference you want. If you just plan just minor
maintenance then a Haynes or Chilton's will probably do.

You can probably get a FSM at a much better price than $129 if you look
around...

It is also nice to have an owners manual,,,,,, they run 10-15 dollars on
eBay.

Welcome to the dark side...




"Clerp" <clerp@spamex.com> wrote in message
news:1166354482.761496.24910@f1g2000cwa.googlegrou ps.com...
>I just bought a 1988 Wrangler with a soft top. The odometer has 93K,
> and I bought it from a service shop that had just replaced the 4.2L
> engine with another one that has about 50K. The car is a little hard to
> start in the cold (I live in the Poconos), but is running pretty well
> so far. I want to get the owners manual and a service manual, but I
> don't know which one is best. I can get the owners manual online from
> Collins Brothers for $20 plus about $10 shipping. They also have the
> Jeep shop manual for $129--which doesn't seem worth it to me. Of
> course, I can also get the Chilton's or Haynes manuals. Any advice?
>

Re: Which manual should I get?
 

If you plan on doing most repairs yourself you will find that the Factory
Service Manual is the reference you want. If you just plan just minor
maintenance then a Haynes or Chilton's will probably do.

You can probably get a FSM at a much better price than $129 if you look
around...

It is also nice to have an owners manual,,,,,, they run 10-15 dollars on
eBay.

Welcome to the dark side...




"Clerp" <clerp@spamex.com> wrote in message
news:1166354482.761496.24910@f1g2000cwa.googlegrou ps.com...
>I just bought a 1988 Wrangler with a soft top. The odometer has 93K,
> and I bought it from a service shop that had just replaced the 4.2L
> engine with another one that has about 50K. The car is a little hard to
> start in the cold (I live in the Poconos), but is running pretty well
> so far. I want to get the owners manual and a service manual, but I
> don't know which one is best. I can get the owners manual online from
> Collins Brothers for $20 plus about $10 shipping. They also have the
> Jeep shop manual for $129--which doesn't seem worth it to me. Of
> course, I can also get the Chilton's or Haynes manuals. Any advice?
>

Re: Which manual should I get?
 

If you plan on doing most repairs yourself you will find that the Factory
Service Manual is the reference you want. If you just plan just minor
maintenance then a Haynes or Chilton's will probably do.

You can probably get a FSM at a much better price than $129 if you look
around...

It is also nice to have an owners manual,,,,,, they run 10-15 dollars on
eBay.

Welcome to the dark side...




"Clerp" <clerp@spamex.com> wrote in message
news:1166354482.761496.24910@f1g2000cwa.googlegrou ps.com...
>I just bought a 1988 Wrangler with a soft top. The odometer has 93K,
> and I bought it from a service shop that had just replaced the 4.2L
> engine with another one that has about 50K. The car is a little hard to
> start in the cold (I live in the Poconos), but is running pretty well
> so far. I want to get the owners manual and a service manual, but I
> don't know which one is best. I can get the owners manual online from
> Collins Brothers for $20 plus about $10 shipping. They also have the
> Jeep shop manual for $129--which doesn't seem worth it to me. Of
> course, I can also get the Chilton's or Haynes manuals. Any advice?
>

Re: Which manual should I get?
 

The best inexpensive book I have seen for your 'engine bay' area
including the engine controls and wiring is the Haynes CJ manual. The
YJ manual mostly deals with the 4.0 engine. Having both of them would
be a good start.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Clerp wrote:
>
> I just bought a 1988 Wrangler with a soft top. The odometer has 93K,
> and I bought it from a service shop that had just replaced the 4.2L
> engine with another one that has about 50K. The car is a little hard to
> start in the cold (I live in the Poconos), but is running pretty well
> so far. I want to get the owners manual and a service manual, but I
> don't know which one is best. I can get the owners manual online from
> Collins Brothers for $20 plus about $10 shipping. They also have the
> Jeep shop manual for $129--which doesn't seem worth it to me. Of
> course, I can also get the Chilton's or Haynes manuals. Any advice?

Re: Which manual should I get?
 

The best inexpensive book I have seen for your 'engine bay' area
including the engine controls and wiring is the Haynes CJ manual. The
YJ manual mostly deals with the 4.0 engine. Having both of them would
be a good start.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Clerp wrote:
>
> I just bought a 1988 Wrangler with a soft top. The odometer has 93K,
> and I bought it from a service shop that had just replaced the 4.2L
> engine with another one that has about 50K. The car is a little hard to
> start in the cold (I live in the Poconos), but is running pretty well
> so far. I want to get the owners manual and a service manual, but I
> don't know which one is best. I can get the owners manual online from
> Collins Brothers for $20 plus about $10 shipping. They also have the
> Jeep shop manual for $129--which doesn't seem worth it to me. Of
> course, I can also get the Chilton's or Haynes manuals. Any advice?

Re: Which manual should I get?
 

The best inexpensive book I have seen for your 'engine bay' area
including the engine controls and wiring is the Haynes CJ manual. The
YJ manual mostly deals with the 4.0 engine. Having both of them would
be a good start.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Clerp wrote:
>
> I just bought a 1988 Wrangler with a soft top. The odometer has 93K,
> and I bought it from a service shop that had just replaced the 4.2L
> engine with another one that has about 50K. The car is a little hard to
> start in the cold (I live in the Poconos), but is running pretty well
> so far. I want to get the owners manual and a service manual, but I
> don't know which one is best. I can get the owners manual online from
> Collins Brothers for $20 plus about $10 shipping. They also have the
> Jeep shop manual for $129--which doesn't seem worth it to me. Of
> course, I can also get the Chilton's or Haynes manuals. Any advice?

Re: Which manual should I get?
 

The Haynes covers several years and it can be confusing when you are reading
the wrong paragraph or page and things just don't match up with what you
have under the hood.

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:d3fba$45854302$422afc51$27895@FUSE.NET...
> If you plan on doing most repairs yourself you will find that the Factory
> Service Manual is the reference you want. If you just plan just minor
> maintenance then a Haynes or Chilton's will probably do.
>
> You can probably get a FSM at a much better price than $129 if you look
> around...
>
> It is also nice to have an owners manual,,,,,, they run 10-15 dollars on
> eBay.
>
> Welcome to the dark side...
>
>
>
>
> "Clerp" <clerp@spamex.com> wrote in message
> news:1166354482.761496.24910@f1g2000cwa.googlegrou ps.com...
> >I just bought a 1988 Wrangler with a soft top. The odometer has 93K,
> > and I bought it from a service shop that had just replaced the 4.2L
> > engine with another one that has about 50K. The car is a little hard to
> > start in the cold (I live in the Poconos), but is running pretty well
> > so far. I want to get the owners manual and a service manual, but I
> > don't know which one is best. I can get the owners manual online from
> > Collins Brothers for $20 plus about $10 shipping. They also have the
> > Jeep shop manual for $129--which doesn't seem worth it to me. Of
> > course, I can also get the Chilton's or Haynes manuals. Any advice?
> >
>
>

Re: Which manual should I get?
 

The Haynes covers several years and it can be confusing when you are reading
the wrong paragraph or page and things just don't match up with what you
have under the hood.

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:d3fba$45854302$422afc51$27895@FUSE.NET...
> If you plan on doing most repairs yourself you will find that the Factory
> Service Manual is the reference you want. If you just plan just minor
> maintenance then a Haynes or Chilton's will probably do.
>
> You can probably get a FSM at a much better price than $129 if you look
> around...
>
> It is also nice to have an owners manual,,,,,, they run 10-15 dollars on
> eBay.
>
> Welcome to the dark side...
>
>
>
>
> "Clerp" <clerp@spamex.com> wrote in message
> news:1166354482.761496.24910@f1g2000cwa.googlegrou ps.com...
> >I just bought a 1988 Wrangler with a soft top. The odometer has 93K,
> > and I bought it from a service shop that had just replaced the 4.2L
> > engine with another one that has about 50K. The car is a little hard to
> > start in the cold (I live in the Poconos), but is running pretty well
> > so far. I want to get the owners manual and a service manual, but I
> > don't know which one is best. I can get the owners manual online from
> > Collins Brothers for $20 plus about $10 shipping. They also have the
> > Jeep shop manual for $129--which doesn't seem worth it to me. Of
> > course, I can also get the Chilton's or Haynes manuals. Any advice?
> >
>
>

Re: Which manual should I get?
 

The Haynes covers several years and it can be confusing when you are reading
the wrong paragraph or page and things just don't match up with what you
have under the hood.

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:d3fba$45854302$422afc51$27895@FUSE.NET...
> If you plan on doing most repairs yourself you will find that the Factory
> Service Manual is the reference you want. If you just plan just minor
> maintenance then a Haynes or Chilton's will probably do.
>
> You can probably get a FSM at a much better price than $129 if you look
> around...
>
> It is also nice to have an owners manual,,,,,, they run 10-15 dollars on
> eBay.
>
> Welcome to the dark side...
>
>
>
>
> "Clerp" <clerp@spamex.com> wrote in message
> news:1166354482.761496.24910@f1g2000cwa.googlegrou ps.com...
> >I just bought a 1988 Wrangler with a soft top. The odometer has 93K,
> > and I bought it from a service shop that had just replaced the 4.2L
> > engine with another one that has about 50K. The car is a little hard to
> > start in the cold (I live in the Poconos), but is running pretty well
> > so far. I want to get the owners manual and a service manual, but I
> > don't know which one is best. I can get the owners manual online from
> > Collins Brothers for $20 plus about $10 shipping. They also have the
> > Jeep shop manual for $129--which doesn't seem worth it to me. Of
> > course, I can also get the Chilton's or Haynes manuals. Any advice?
> >
>
>

Re: Which manual should I get?
 

My Jeep is going to need repairs!? Oh no!

Thanks, all, for responding. I've been looking around quite a bit for
the FSM and really haven't found it cheaper.

There's a manual on CD on eBay that I'm unsure of. It's: "1988 Jeep
Wrangler/Jeep YJ Service & Repair Manual CD--Item number:
280061790794." The description says "This manual is made by Thomson
Delmar Learning/Chiltons, provider of technical information for
professionals of all fields." Does anyone know if this is any
different/better than a regular Chilton's manual?

billy ray wrote:
> If you plan on doing most repairs yourself you will find that the Factory
> Service Manual is the reference you want. If you just plan just minor
> maintenance then a Haynes or Chilton's will probably do.
>
> You can probably get a FSM at a much better price than $129 if you look
> around...
>
> It is also nice to have an owners manual,,,,,, they run 10-15 dollars on
> eBay.
>
> Welcome to the dark side...
>

Re: Which manual should I get?
 

My Jeep is going to need repairs!? Oh no!

Thanks, all, for responding. I've been looking around quite a bit for
the FSM and really haven't found it cheaper.

There's a manual on CD on eBay that I'm unsure of. It's: "1988 Jeep
Wrangler/Jeep YJ Service & Repair Manual CD--Item number:
280061790794." The description says "This manual is made by Thomson
Delmar Learning/Chiltons, provider of technical information for
professionals of all fields." Does anyone know if this is any
different/better than a regular Chilton's manual?

billy ray wrote:
> If you plan on doing most repairs yourself you will find that the Factory
> Service Manual is the reference you want. If you just plan just minor
> maintenance then a Haynes or Chilton's will probably do.
>
> You can probably get a FSM at a much better price than $129 if you look
> around...
>
> It is also nice to have an owners manual,,,,,, they run 10-15 dollars on
> eBay.
>
> Welcome to the dark side...
>

Re: Which manual should I get?
 

My Jeep is going to need repairs!? Oh no!

Thanks, all, for responding. I've been looking around quite a bit for
the FSM and really haven't found it cheaper.

There's a manual on CD on eBay that I'm unsure of. It's: "1988 Jeep
Wrangler/Jeep YJ Service & Repair Manual CD--Item number:
280061790794." The description says "This manual is made by Thomson
Delmar Learning/Chiltons, provider of technical information for
professionals of all fields." Does anyone know if this is any
different/better than a regular Chilton's manual?

billy ray wrote:
> If you plan on doing most repairs yourself you will find that the Factory
> Service Manual is the reference you want. If you just plan just minor
> maintenance then a Haynes or Chilton's will probably do.
>
> You can probably get a FSM at a much better price than $129 if you look
> around...
>
> It is also nice to have an owners manual,,,,,, they run 10-15 dollars on
> eBay.
>
> Welcome to the dark side...
>

Re: Which manual should I get?
 

In article <1166354482.761496.24910@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.c om>,
Clerp <clerp@spamex.com> wrote:
#I just bought a 1988 Wrangler with a soft top. The odometer has 93K,
#and I bought it from a service shop that had just replaced the 4.2L
#engine with another one that has about 50K. The car is a little hard to
#start in the cold (I live in the Poconos), but is running pretty well
#so far. I want to get the owners manual and a service manual, but I
#don't know which one is best. I can get the owners manual online from
#Collins Brothers for $20 plus about $10 shipping. They also have the
#Jeep shop manual for $129--which doesn't seem worth it to me. Of
#course, I can also get the Chilton's or Haynes manuals. Any advice?

Get the factory service manual from DC and make sure you have a up
to date set of TSBs and recall notices from them as well. Get the
wiring diagrams and the vacum diagrams from DC, too.

/herb

Re: Which manual should I get?
 

In article <1166354482.761496.24910@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.c om>,
Clerp <clerp@spamex.com> wrote:
#I just bought a 1988 Wrangler with a soft top. The odometer has 93K,
#and I bought it from a service shop that had just replaced the 4.2L
#engine with another one that has about 50K. The car is a little hard to
#start in the cold (I live in the Poconos), but is running pretty well
#so far. I want to get the owners manual and a service manual, but I
#don't know which one is best. I can get the owners manual online from
#Collins Brothers for $20 plus about $10 shipping. They also have the
#Jeep shop manual for $129--which doesn't seem worth it to me. Of
#course, I can also get the Chilton's or Haynes manuals. Any advice?

Get the factory service manual from DC and make sure you have a up
to date set of TSBs and recall notices from them as well. Get the
wiring diagrams and the vacum diagrams from DC, too.

/herb

Re: Which manual should I get?
 

In article <1166354482.761496.24910@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.c om>,
Clerp <clerp@spamex.com> wrote:
#I just bought a 1988 Wrangler with a soft top. The odometer has 93K,
#and I bought it from a service shop that had just replaced the 4.2L
#engine with another one that has about 50K. The car is a little hard to
#start in the cold (I live in the Poconos), but is running pretty well
#so far. I want to get the owners manual and a service manual, but I
#don't know which one is best. I can get the owners manual online from
#Collins Brothers for $20 plus about $10 shipping. They also have the
#Jeep shop manual for $129--which doesn't seem worth it to me. Of
#course, I can also get the Chilton's or Haynes manuals. Any advice?

Get the factory service manual from DC and make sure you have a up
to date set of TSBs and recall notices from them as well. Get the
wiring diagrams and the vacum diagrams from DC, too.

/herb

Re: Which manual should I get?
 

I'm a newbie--can you tell me what "DC" is?

On Dec 19, 6:07 am, h...@urusei.net (Herb Leong) wrote:
>
> Get the factory service manual from DC and make sure you have a up
> to date set of TSBs and recall notices from them as well. Get the
> wiring diagrams and the vacum diagrams from DC, too.
>
> /herb

Re: Which manual should I get?
 

I'm a newbie--can you tell me what "DC" is?

On Dec 19, 6:07 am, h...@urusei.net (Herb Leong) wrote:
>
> Get the factory service manual from DC and make sure you have a up
> to date set of TSBs and recall notices from them as well. Get the
> wiring diagrams and the vacum diagrams from DC, too.
>
> /herb

Re: Which manual should I get?
 

I'm a newbie--can you tell me what "DC" is?

On Dec 19, 6:07 am, h...@urusei.net (Herb Leong) wrote:
>
> Get the factory service manual from DC and make sure you have a up
> to date set of TSBs and recall notices from them as well. Get the
> wiring diagrams and the vacum diagrams from DC, too.
>
> /herb

Re: Which manual should I get?
 

DaimlerChrysler, the parent company that owns the Jeep nameplate.

You pick up the lingo soon enough. References to FSM are to the Factory
Service Manual which is the best reference manual if you plan on doing any
serious wrenching.

A Chilton's or Haynes manual is adequate for many minor tasks.


"Clerp" <mhsquared@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166752997.500101.312560@80g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com...
> I'm a newbie--can you tell me what "DC" is?
>
> On Dec 19, 6:07 am, h...@urusei.net (Herb Leong) wrote:
>>
>> Get the factory service manual from DC and make sure you have a up
>> to date set of TSBs and recall notices from them as well. Get the
>> wiring diagrams and the vacum diagrams from DC, too.
>>
>> /herb
>

Re: Which manual should I get?
 

DaimlerChrysler, the parent company that owns the Jeep nameplate.

You pick up the lingo soon enough. References to FSM are to the Factory
Service Manual which is the best reference manual if you plan on doing any
serious wrenching.

A Chilton's or Haynes manual is adequate for many minor tasks.


"Clerp" <mhsquared@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166752997.500101.312560@80g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com...
> I'm a newbie--can you tell me what "DC" is?
>
> On Dec 19, 6:07 am, h...@urusei.net (Herb Leong) wrote:
>>
>> Get the factory service manual from DC and make sure you have a up
>> to date set of TSBs and recall notices from them as well. Get the
>> wiring diagrams and the vacum diagrams from DC, too.
>>
>> /herb
>

Re: Which manual should I get?
 

DaimlerChrysler, the parent company that owns the Jeep nameplate.

You pick up the lingo soon enough. References to FSM are to the Factory
Service Manual which is the best reference manual if you plan on doing any
serious wrenching.

A Chilton's or Haynes manual is adequate for many minor tasks.


"Clerp" <mhsquared@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166752997.500101.312560@80g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com...
> I'm a newbie--can you tell me what "DC" is?
>
> On Dec 19, 6:07 am, h...@urusei.net (Herb Leong) wrote:
>>
>> Get the factory service manual from DC and make sure you have a up
>> to date set of TSBs and recall notices from them as well. Get the
>> wiring diagrams and the vacum diagrams from DC, too.
>>
>> /herb
>

Re: Which manual should I get?
 

Thanks!

On Dec 21, 9:13 pm, "billy ray" <billy_...@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
> DaimlerChrysler, the parent company that owns the Jeep nameplate.
>
> You pick up the lingo soon enough. References to FSM are to the Factory
> Service Manual which is the best reference manual if you plan on doing any
> serious wrenching.
>
> A Chilton's or Haynes manual is adequate for many minor tasks.
>
> "Clerp" <mhsqua...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1166752997.500101.312560@80g2000cwy.go oglegroups.com...
>
> > I'm a newbie--can you tell me what "DC" is?
>
> > On Dec 19, 6:07 am, h...@urusei.net (Herb Leong) wrote:
>
> >> Get the factory service manual from DC and make sure you have a up
> >> to date set of TSBs and recall notices from them as well. Get the
> >> wiring diagrams and the vacum diagrams from DC, too.
>
> >> /herb

Re: Which manual should I get?
 

Thanks!

On Dec 21, 9:13 pm, "billy ray" <billy_...@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
> DaimlerChrysler, the parent company that owns the Jeep nameplate.
>
> You pick up the lingo soon enough. References to FSM are to the Factory
> Service Manual which is the best reference manual if you plan on doing any
> serious wrenching.
>
> A Chilton's or Haynes manual is adequate for many minor tasks.
>
> "Clerp" <mhsqua...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1166752997.500101.312560@80g2000cwy.go oglegroups.com...
>
> > I'm a newbie--can you tell me what "DC" is?
>
> > On Dec 19, 6:07 am, h...@urusei.net (Herb Leong) wrote:
>
> >> Get the factory service manual from DC and make sure you have a up
> >> to date set of TSBs and recall notices from them as well. Get the
> >> wiring diagrams and the vacum diagrams from DC, too.
>
> >> /herb

Re: Which manual should I get?
 

Thanks!

On Dec 21, 9:13 pm, "billy ray" <billy_...@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
> DaimlerChrysler, the parent company that owns the Jeep nameplate.
>
> You pick up the lingo soon enough. References to FSM are to the Factory
> Service Manual which is the best reference manual if you plan on doing any
> serious wrenching.
>
> A Chilton's or Haynes manual is adequate for many minor tasks.
>
> "Clerp" <mhsqua...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1166752997.500101.312560@80g2000cwy.go oglegroups.com...
>
> > I'm a newbie--can you tell me what "DC" is?
>
> > On Dec 19, 6:07 am, h...@urusei.net (Herb Leong) wrote:
>
> >> Get the factory service manual from DC and make sure you have a up
> >> to date set of TSBs and recall notices from them as well. Get the
> >> wiring diagrams and the vacum diagrams from DC, too.
>
> >> /herb