Re: Man I hate rust! or Back bumper just fell off...
 

Best be careful you don't get nabbed by the Wreck Check Squad!

A couple summers ago I was driving thru TO on a hot august day and all of a
sudden my passenger side mirror vanished. Dam, glue let go and the mirror
just dropped away.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41A7A19A.FDC2130A@sympatico.ca...
> So here I am driving down the main drag in Toronto and hear/feel a
> strange thump then scraping. Crap I think, there goes the muffler or
> tailpipe or something. Not loud, hmmm... I pull over and walk back
> looking at the guy behind me laughing and there is my frame crossmember
> and stainless bumperette loops laying on the ground..... There was a
> left over piece if string I used to tie something once holding it on.
>
> Ouch!
>
> I knew it was getting ratty when my gas tank skid plate fell off a while
> back but was hoping to get the winter out of it.
>
> My kid just came in laughing and asked what was holding the back springs
> on. I can't figure that out either, they are sorta just hanging there
> on a cob web of rust....
>
> I have the gas tank hung off the body as it is via a couple big eye
> hooks through the floor and cargo straps.
>
> Oh well, I guess it is time to get some square tubing and cover the
> frame tails and anchor the spring shackles and a new C channel
> crossmember to them. Then to get a gas tank skid plate.
>
> Anyone know if a YJ 20 gallon skid plate will fit a cj 20 gallon tank?
>
> Meanwhile some bailing wire keeps it 'looking' like it belongs
> there.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Man I hate rust! or Back bumper just fell off...
 

Best be careful you don't get nabbed by the Wreck Check Squad!

A couple summers ago I was driving thru TO on a hot august day and all of a
sudden my passenger side mirror vanished. Dam, glue let go and the mirror
just dropped away.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41A7A19A.FDC2130A@sympatico.ca...
> So here I am driving down the main drag in Toronto and hear/feel a
> strange thump then scraping. Crap I think, there goes the muffler or
> tailpipe or something. Not loud, hmmm... I pull over and walk back
> looking at the guy behind me laughing and there is my frame crossmember
> and stainless bumperette loops laying on the ground..... There was a
> left over piece if string I used to tie something once holding it on.
>
> Ouch!
>
> I knew it was getting ratty when my gas tank skid plate fell off a while
> back but was hoping to get the winter out of it.
>
> My kid just came in laughing and asked what was holding the back springs
> on. I can't figure that out either, they are sorta just hanging there
> on a cob web of rust....
>
> I have the gas tank hung off the body as it is via a couple big eye
> hooks through the floor and cargo straps.
>
> Oh well, I guess it is time to get some square tubing and cover the
> frame tails and anchor the spring shackles and a new C channel
> crossmember to them. Then to get a gas tank skid plate.
>
> Anyone know if a YJ 20 gallon skid plate will fit a cj 20 gallon tank?
>
> Meanwhile some bailing wire keeps it 'looking' like it belongs
> there.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Man I hate rust! or Back bumper just fell off...
 

Best be careful you don't get nabbed by the Wreck Check Squad!

A couple summers ago I was driving thru TO on a hot august day and all of a
sudden my passenger side mirror vanished. Dam, glue let go and the mirror
just dropped away.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41A7A19A.FDC2130A@sympatico.ca...
> So here I am driving down the main drag in Toronto and hear/feel a
> strange thump then scraping. Crap I think, there goes the muffler or
> tailpipe or something. Not loud, hmmm... I pull over and walk back
> looking at the guy behind me laughing and there is my frame crossmember
> and stainless bumperette loops laying on the ground..... There was a
> left over piece if string I used to tie something once holding it on.
>
> Ouch!
>
> I knew it was getting ratty when my gas tank skid plate fell off a while
> back but was hoping to get the winter out of it.
>
> My kid just came in laughing and asked what was holding the back springs
> on. I can't figure that out either, they are sorta just hanging there
> on a cob web of rust....
>
> I have the gas tank hung off the body as it is via a couple big eye
> hooks through the floor and cargo straps.
>
> Oh well, I guess it is time to get some square tubing and cover the
> frame tails and anchor the spring shackles and a new C channel
> crossmember to them. Then to get a gas tank skid plate.
>
> Anyone know if a YJ 20 gallon skid plate will fit a cj 20 gallon tank?
>
> Meanwhile some bailing wire keeps it 'looking' like it belongs
> there.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Man I hate rust! or Back bumper just fell off...
 

When I bought my '02TJ I had it undercoated.
The undercoating I had seen in the past was just an oilspray...but this
stuff turned out to look something like that "blow-in" newspaper insullation
mixed with tar.

It's been a few years and it's still on there....of course I haven't hit any
big rocks while rock crawling.

I don't know if this stuff can be re-coated...or if they have to peal it all
off and redo it. But for sure, if it will trap moisture if there's a hole
in it.


"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-1bU4drsqSkdm@anon.none.net...
> On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 12:41:42 UTC "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> : Now if the rain ever decides to stop I have to get out and prime/paint
>> the
>> : skins on the drives rocker panel.
>> :
>> : Snow...
>> :
>> I lost a good work day (Saturday) to lounging around... dry and pretty
>> mild
>> here but I didn't have the energy to do anything.
>>
>> I've been thinking of plating the underside of my floor pan with 1/16"
>> checker plate aluminium ($4.00/sqft). I'm thinking of running from the
>> pinch
>> seam flush to the frame and inboard of the frame to the tranny tunnel.
>> I'm
>> thinking of it as a barrier (not as skid protection) but I'm concerned
>> about
>> creating cavities between the floor and the aluminium. Instinct tells me
>> I
>> may be causing more problems than creating solutions... hmmm.
>
> Mike has a good point on the electrolosis problem but there is one old
> timer's trick that seems to work quite well on seams and sandwich
> sections. Get a bucket of roofing tar - that black, nasty gooey
> stuff. Coat both sides of the "sandwich" liberally so that you
> squeeze out the excess as you bolt/rivet the sections together. If
> there are seams and crevices, turn a heat gun or some such (I don't
> recommend an open flame <g>) on the pieces to get the tar to flow.
> Once the aromatics boil off that tar, it remains elastic and the
> original application penetrates rust and cavities. It may not be as
> good as POR 15 at converting rust, but it even works to seal repairs
> in water tanks - like the bottom of evaporative coolers - for years at
> a time. The stuff is cheap, so use plenty. An uncle of mine used
> roofing tar as a sealer in his body shop on the Gulf Coast and swore
> it filled and worked better than anything else in the salt spray.
> It's messy, so get a gallon of mineral spirits to clean up with - fair
> warning.
>
> --
> Will Honea

Re: Man I hate rust! or Back bumper just fell off...
 

When I bought my '02TJ I had it undercoated.
The undercoating I had seen in the past was just an oilspray...but this
stuff turned out to look something like that "blow-in" newspaper insullation
mixed with tar.

It's been a few years and it's still on there....of course I haven't hit any
big rocks while rock crawling.

I don't know if this stuff can be re-coated...or if they have to peal it all
off and redo it. But for sure, if it will trap moisture if there's a hole
in it.


"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-1bU4drsqSkdm@anon.none.net...
> On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 12:41:42 UTC "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> : Now if the rain ever decides to stop I have to get out and prime/paint
>> the
>> : skins on the drives rocker panel.
>> :
>> : Snow...
>> :
>> I lost a good work day (Saturday) to lounging around... dry and pretty
>> mild
>> here but I didn't have the energy to do anything.
>>
>> I've been thinking of plating the underside of my floor pan with 1/16"
>> checker plate aluminium ($4.00/sqft). I'm thinking of running from the
>> pinch
>> seam flush to the frame and inboard of the frame to the tranny tunnel.
>> I'm
>> thinking of it as a barrier (not as skid protection) but I'm concerned
>> about
>> creating cavities between the floor and the aluminium. Instinct tells me
>> I
>> may be causing more problems than creating solutions... hmmm.
>
> Mike has a good point on the electrolosis problem but there is one old
> timer's trick that seems to work quite well on seams and sandwich
> sections. Get a bucket of roofing tar - that black, nasty gooey
> stuff. Coat both sides of the "sandwich" liberally so that you
> squeeze out the excess as you bolt/rivet the sections together. If
> there are seams and crevices, turn a heat gun or some such (I don't
> recommend an open flame <g>) on the pieces to get the tar to flow.
> Once the aromatics boil off that tar, it remains elastic and the
> original application penetrates rust and cavities. It may not be as
> good as POR 15 at converting rust, but it even works to seal repairs
> in water tanks - like the bottom of evaporative coolers - for years at
> a time. The stuff is cheap, so use plenty. An uncle of mine used
> roofing tar as a sealer in his body shop on the Gulf Coast and swore
> it filled and worked better than anything else in the salt spray.
> It's messy, so get a gallon of mineral spirits to clean up with - fair
> warning.
>
> --
> Will Honea

Re: Man I hate rust! or Back bumper just fell off...
 

When I bought my '02TJ I had it undercoated.
The undercoating I had seen in the past was just an oilspray...but this
stuff turned out to look something like that "blow-in" newspaper insullation
mixed with tar.

It's been a few years and it's still on there....of course I haven't hit any
big rocks while rock crawling.

I don't know if this stuff can be re-coated...or if they have to peal it all
off and redo it. But for sure, if it will trap moisture if there's a hole
in it.


"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-1bU4drsqSkdm@anon.none.net...
> On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 12:41:42 UTC "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> : Now if the rain ever decides to stop I have to get out and prime/paint
>> the
>> : skins on the drives rocker panel.
>> :
>> : Snow...
>> :
>> I lost a good work day (Saturday) to lounging around... dry and pretty
>> mild
>> here but I didn't have the energy to do anything.
>>
>> I've been thinking of plating the underside of my floor pan with 1/16"
>> checker plate aluminium ($4.00/sqft). I'm thinking of running from the
>> pinch
>> seam flush to the frame and inboard of the frame to the tranny tunnel.
>> I'm
>> thinking of it as a barrier (not as skid protection) but I'm concerned
>> about
>> creating cavities between the floor and the aluminium. Instinct tells me
>> I
>> may be causing more problems than creating solutions... hmmm.
>
> Mike has a good point on the electrolosis problem but there is one old
> timer's trick that seems to work quite well on seams and sandwich
> sections. Get a bucket of roofing tar - that black, nasty gooey
> stuff. Coat both sides of the "sandwich" liberally so that you
> squeeze out the excess as you bolt/rivet the sections together. If
> there are seams and crevices, turn a heat gun or some such (I don't
> recommend an open flame <g>) on the pieces to get the tar to flow.
> Once the aromatics boil off that tar, it remains elastic and the
> original application penetrates rust and cavities. It may not be as
> good as POR 15 at converting rust, but it even works to seal repairs
> in water tanks - like the bottom of evaporative coolers - for years at
> a time. The stuff is cheap, so use plenty. An uncle of mine used
> roofing tar as a sealer in his body shop on the Gulf Coast and swore
> it filled and worked better than anything else in the salt spray.
> It's messy, so get a gallon of mineral spirits to clean up with - fair
> warning.
>
> --
> Will Honea

Re: Man I hate rust! or Back bumper just fell off...
 

Would make Red Green proud.

DougW wrote:
> Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
>
>
>>I actually 'have' the 'real stuff' holding it on now. Got it on one
>>trip from an old farmer/mechanic to help hold my muffler up once.
>>
>>The last use this one piece of bailing wire had was to hold a duck on a
>>spit for a slow 7 hour fire roast a couple weeks back when my wife and I
>>were out camping. Versatile stuff eh. ;-)
>
>
> Yep. That and duct tape
>
> (set the coffe down)
>
> http://www.octanecreative.com/ductta...hop/page2.html
>

Re: Man I hate rust! or Back bumper just fell off...
 

Would make Red Green proud.

DougW wrote:
> Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
>
>
>>I actually 'have' the 'real stuff' holding it on now. Got it on one
>>trip from an old farmer/mechanic to help hold my muffler up once.
>>
>>The last use this one piece of bailing wire had was to hold a duck on a
>>spit for a slow 7 hour fire roast a couple weeks back when my wife and I
>>were out camping. Versatile stuff eh. ;-)
>
>
> Yep. That and duct tape
>
> (set the coffe down)
>
> http://www.octanecreative.com/ductta...hop/page2.html
>

Re: Man I hate rust! or Back bumper just fell off...
 

Would make Red Green proud.

DougW wrote:
> Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
>
>
>>I actually 'have' the 'real stuff' holding it on now. Got it on one
>>trip from an old farmer/mechanic to help hold my muffler up once.
>>
>>The last use this one piece of bailing wire had was to hold a duck on a
>>spit for a slow 7 hour fire roast a couple weeks back when my wife and I
>>were out camping. Versatile stuff eh. ;-)
>
>
> Yep. That and duct tape
>
> (set the coffe down)
>
> http://www.octanecreative.com/ductta...hop/page2.html
>