Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

A while back I started a thread with the title "What does the mechanic get"
which I was trying to dermine the salary of a mechanic. All in all, the
responses seemed pretty bleak although I didn't specify what type of
mechanic we were talking about.

Yesterday I went to the performance shop where they do Dyno testing and
engine "Blue printing". As I was discussing my intake manifold problem I
asked the guy out of curiosity, how much he would charge for a rebuild. He
prefaced the return answer with "Now, we are a perfomance shop" and then
told me a rebuild by him would cost somewhere around 5k.

Later on that night I was watching the news and they had a little segment on
Jessie James (Monster Garage) who just sold a bike he build for 250k.

So I guess there is $$$ to be made but not as much for the every day
mechanic? So if you can fab and "blue print" an engine you can request a
larger dollar for your work.

BTW, the guy told me he had a customer come from another shop where he paid
upwards of 800.00 to grind a crank and it still wasn't right. The customer
paid this guy 90.00 and it worked perfectly. His story of course.

Bill

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

Hi Bill,
Blue Printing. is just bring an engine to factory specs, new
engines in news cars aren't even close to that quality control, but it's
all important to obtaining a balanced, reliable high Revolution Per
Minute.
Fifty thousand bucks is cheap for a used Keith Black engine.
Thirteen thousand is in the ball park for a crate motor:
http://www.streetrodstuff.com/Products/387/
And no the machinist doesn't get enough.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> A while back I started a thread with the title "What does the mechanic get"
> which I was trying to dermine the salary of a mechanic. All in all, the
> responses seemed pretty bleak although I didn't specify what type of
> mechanic we were talking about.
>
> Yesterday I went to the performance shop where they do Dyno testing and
> engine "Blue printing". As I was discussing my intake manifold problem I
> asked the guy out of curiosity, how much he would charge for a rebuild. He
> prefaced the return answer with "Now, we are a perfomance shop" and then
> told me a rebuild by him would cost somewhere around 5k.
>
> Later on that night I was watching the news and they had a little segment on
> Jessie James (Monster Garage) who just sold a bike he build for 250k.
>
> So I guess there is $$$ to be made but not as much for the every day
> mechanic? So if you can fab and "blue print" an engine you can request a
> larger dollar for your work.
>
> BTW, the guy told me he had a customer come from another shop where he paid
> upwards of 800.00 to grind a crank and it still wasn't right. The customer
> paid this guy 90.00 and it worked perfectly. His story of course.
>
> Bill

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

Hi Bill,
Blue Printing. is just bring an engine to factory specs, new
engines in news cars aren't even close to that quality control, but it's
all important to obtaining a balanced, reliable high Revolution Per
Minute.
Fifty thousand bucks is cheap for a used Keith Black engine.
Thirteen thousand is in the ball park for a crate motor:
http://www.streetrodstuff.com/Products/387/
And no the machinist doesn't get enough.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> A while back I started a thread with the title "What does the mechanic get"
> which I was trying to dermine the salary of a mechanic. All in all, the
> responses seemed pretty bleak although I didn't specify what type of
> mechanic we were talking about.
>
> Yesterday I went to the performance shop where they do Dyno testing and
> engine "Blue printing". As I was discussing my intake manifold problem I
> asked the guy out of curiosity, how much he would charge for a rebuild. He
> prefaced the return answer with "Now, we are a perfomance shop" and then
> told me a rebuild by him would cost somewhere around 5k.
>
> Later on that night I was watching the news and they had a little segment on
> Jessie James (Monster Garage) who just sold a bike he build for 250k.
>
> So I guess there is $$$ to be made but not as much for the every day
> mechanic? So if you can fab and "blue print" an engine you can request a
> larger dollar for your work.
>
> BTW, the guy told me he had a customer come from another shop where he paid
> upwards of 800.00 to grind a crank and it still wasn't right. The customer
> paid this guy 90.00 and it worked perfectly. His story of course.
>
> Bill

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

Hi Bill,
Blue Printing. is just bring an engine to factory specs, new
engines in news cars aren't even close to that quality control, but it's
all important to obtaining a balanced, reliable high Revolution Per
Minute.
Fifty thousand bucks is cheap for a used Keith Black engine.
Thirteen thousand is in the ball park for a crate motor:
http://www.streetrodstuff.com/Products/387/
And no the machinist doesn't get enough.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> A while back I started a thread with the title "What does the mechanic get"
> which I was trying to dermine the salary of a mechanic. All in all, the
> responses seemed pretty bleak although I didn't specify what type of
> mechanic we were talking about.
>
> Yesterday I went to the performance shop where they do Dyno testing and
> engine "Blue printing". As I was discussing my intake manifold problem I
> asked the guy out of curiosity, how much he would charge for a rebuild. He
> prefaced the return answer with "Now, we are a perfomance shop" and then
> told me a rebuild by him would cost somewhere around 5k.
>
> Later on that night I was watching the news and they had a little segment on
> Jessie James (Monster Garage) who just sold a bike he build for 250k.
>
> So I guess there is $$$ to be made but not as much for the every day
> mechanic? So if you can fab and "blue print" an engine you can request a
> larger dollar for your work.
>
> BTW, the guy told me he had a customer come from another shop where he paid
> upwards of 800.00 to grind a crank and it still wasn't right. The customer
> paid this guy 90.00 and it worked perfectly. His story of course.
>
> Bill

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers, usually.
The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but certainly
is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty match
on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....


Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will be
employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that at
a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law is an
electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the last
time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very well.

No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market is
driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek out
cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any interest
in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue collar
workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
wages are catching up to us.

Jerry




"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > And no
the machinist doesn't get enough.

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers, usually.
The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but certainly
is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty match
on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....


Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will be
employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that at
a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law is an
electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the last
time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very well.

No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market is
driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek out
cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any interest
in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue collar
workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
wages are catching up to us.

Jerry




"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > And no
the machinist doesn't get enough.

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers, usually.
The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but certainly
is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty match
on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....


Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will be
employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that at
a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law is an
electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the last
time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very well.

No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market is
driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek out
cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any interest
in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue collar
workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
wages are catching up to us.

Jerry




"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > And no
the machinist doesn't get enough.

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

Good technicians can make over 100k a year depending upon skill level and
product specialty. High line techs, those working on Lexus, BMW, MB, Jaguar,
Porsche, etc. make GREAT money and in general the dealerships are better
places to work than the GM, Ford & DC stores. Regardless, although hard
work, being an automotive tech can be quite financially rewarding. It helps
to have a 2-3 year automotive technology degree, ASE master certification
and other credentials. As in any other field, the education really helps get
you in the door.


"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1ojpb$1ktcfn$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> A while back I started a thread with the title "What does the mechanic
get"
> which I was trying to dermine the salary of a mechanic. All in all, the
> responses seemed pretty bleak although I didn't specify what type of
> mechanic we were talking about.
>
> Yesterday I went to the performance shop where they do Dyno testing and
> engine "Blue printing". As I was discussing my intake manifold problem I
> asked the guy out of curiosity, how much he would charge for a rebuild.
He
> prefaced the return answer with "Now, we are a perfomance shop" and then
> told me a rebuild by him would cost somewhere around 5k.
>
> Later on that night I was watching the news and they had a little segment
on
> Jessie James (Monster Garage) who just sold a bike he build for 250k.
>
> So I guess there is $$$ to be made but not as much for the every day
> mechanic? So if you can fab and "blue print" an engine you can request a
> larger dollar for your work.
>
> BTW, the guy told me he had a customer come from another shop where he
paid
> upwards of 800.00 to grind a crank and it still wasn't right. The
customer
> paid this guy 90.00 and it worked perfectly. His story of course.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

Good technicians can make over 100k a year depending upon skill level and
product specialty. High line techs, those working on Lexus, BMW, MB, Jaguar,
Porsche, etc. make GREAT money and in general the dealerships are better
places to work than the GM, Ford & DC stores. Regardless, although hard
work, being an automotive tech can be quite financially rewarding. It helps
to have a 2-3 year automotive technology degree, ASE master certification
and other credentials. As in any other field, the education really helps get
you in the door.


"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1ojpb$1ktcfn$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> A while back I started a thread with the title "What does the mechanic
get"
> which I was trying to dermine the salary of a mechanic. All in all, the
> responses seemed pretty bleak although I didn't specify what type of
> mechanic we were talking about.
>
> Yesterday I went to the performance shop where they do Dyno testing and
> engine "Blue printing". As I was discussing my intake manifold problem I
> asked the guy out of curiosity, how much he would charge for a rebuild.
He
> prefaced the return answer with "Now, we are a perfomance shop" and then
> told me a rebuild by him would cost somewhere around 5k.
>
> Later on that night I was watching the news and they had a little segment
on
> Jessie James (Monster Garage) who just sold a bike he build for 250k.
>
> So I guess there is $$$ to be made but not as much for the every day
> mechanic? So if you can fab and "blue print" an engine you can request a
> larger dollar for your work.
>
> BTW, the guy told me he had a customer come from another shop where he
paid
> upwards of 800.00 to grind a crank and it still wasn't right. The
customer
> paid this guy 90.00 and it worked perfectly. His story of course.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

Good technicians can make over 100k a year depending upon skill level and
product specialty. High line techs, those working on Lexus, BMW, MB, Jaguar,
Porsche, etc. make GREAT money and in general the dealerships are better
places to work than the GM, Ford & DC stores. Regardless, although hard
work, being an automotive tech can be quite financially rewarding. It helps
to have a 2-3 year automotive technology degree, ASE master certification
and other credentials. As in any other field, the education really helps get
you in the door.


"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1ojpb$1ktcfn$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> A while back I started a thread with the title "What does the mechanic
get"
> which I was trying to dermine the salary of a mechanic. All in all, the
> responses seemed pretty bleak although I didn't specify what type of
> mechanic we were talking about.
>
> Yesterday I went to the performance shop where they do Dyno testing and
> engine "Blue printing". As I was discussing my intake manifold problem I
> asked the guy out of curiosity, how much he would charge for a rebuild.
He
> prefaced the return answer with "Now, we are a perfomance shop" and then
> told me a rebuild by him would cost somewhere around 5k.
>
> Later on that night I was watching the news and they had a little segment
on
> Jessie James (Monster Garage) who just sold a bike he build for 250k.
>
> So I guess there is $$$ to be made but not as much for the every day
> mechanic? So if you can fab and "blue print" an engine you can request a
> larger dollar for your work.
>
> BTW, the guy told me he had a customer come from another shop where he
paid
> upwards of 800.00 to grind a crank and it still wasn't right. The
customer
> paid this guy 90.00 and it worked perfectly. His story of course.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

That's still not enough, and we weren't talking about a tool and
die maker. You know a Teamster's driver drives a cement truck for twenty
five bucks an hour, right?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers, usually.
> The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but certainly
> is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty match
> on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
>
> Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will be
> employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that at
> a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law is an
> electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the last
> time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very well.
>
> No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market is
> driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek out
> cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any interest
> in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue collar
> workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> wages are catching up to us.
>
> Jerry

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

That's still not enough, and we weren't talking about a tool and
die maker. You know a Teamster's driver drives a cement truck for twenty
five bucks an hour, right?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers, usually.
> The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but certainly
> is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty match
> on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
>
> Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will be
> employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that at
> a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law is an
> electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the last
> time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very well.
>
> No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market is
> driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek out
> cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any interest
> in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue collar
> workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> wages are catching up to us.
>
> Jerry

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

That's still not enough, and we weren't talking about a tool and
die maker. You know a Teamster's driver drives a cement truck for twenty
five bucks an hour, right?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers, usually.
> The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but certainly
> is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty match
> on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
>
> Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will be
> employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that at
> a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law is an
> electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the last
> time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very well.
>
> No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market is
> driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek out
> cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any interest
> in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue collar
> workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> wages are catching up to us.
>
> Jerry

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

Jerry, you said: "machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore)"
The machinist is what I call the little guy, usually independent that
subs the back room and does the hot tank, boring, and valves, to
complete rebuild for that auto parts store's front counter here in
California. Where are you?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers, usually.
> The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but certainly
> is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty match
> on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
>
> Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will be
> employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that at
> a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law is an
> electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the last
> time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very well.
>
> No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market is
> driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek out
> cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any interest
> in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue collar
> workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> wages are catching up to us.
>
> Jerry

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

Jerry, you said: "machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore)"
The machinist is what I call the little guy, usually independent that
subs the back room and does the hot tank, boring, and valves, to
complete rebuild for that auto parts store's front counter here in
California. Where are you?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers, usually.
> The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but certainly
> is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty match
> on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
>
> Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will be
> employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that at
> a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law is an
> electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the last
> time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very well.
>
> No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market is
> driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek out
> cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any interest
> in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue collar
> workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> wages are catching up to us.
>
> Jerry

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

Jerry, you said: "machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore)"
The machinist is what I call the little guy, usually independent that
subs the back room and does the hot tank, boring, and valves, to
complete rebuild for that auto parts store's front counter here in
California. Where are you?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers, usually.
> The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but certainly
> is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty match
> on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
>
> Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will be
> employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that at
> a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law is an
> electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the last
> time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very well.
>
> No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market is
> driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek out
> cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any interest
> in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue collar
> workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> wages are catching up to us.
>
> Jerry

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

I currently reside in New England, but spent 35 years in the Arizona desert
first. I hear what you say about the guy that rebuilds heads all day. But
he can't really demand any money, because the engine overhaul business is
extremely competitive (Neco, Jasper, etc). The exception is the hotrod
market. I interviewed for a position at Arizona Speed and Marine. They are
paying pretty good for techs that will just swap engines and other major
components. They machine all of their stuff in-house, and charge handily
for it. I would imagine that those machinists are making some bread.

When you said machinist, I assumed you meant the guy that makes things, not
the engine rebuilder.


Jerry


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:40405922.553A6ED7@cox.net...
> Jerry, you said: "machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore)"
> The machinist is what I call the little guy, usually independent that
> subs the back room and does the hot tank, boring, and valves, to
> complete rebuild for that auto parts store's front counter here in
> California. Where are you?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Newton wrote:
> >
> > I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> > machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> > well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> > nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers,
usually.
> > The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but
certainly
> > is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> > benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty
match
> > on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
> >
> > Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will
be
> > employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that
at
> > a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> > automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law
is an
> > electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the
last
> > time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very
well.
> >
> > No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market
is
> > driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek
out
> > cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any
interest
> > in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> > way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue
collar
> > workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> > wages are catching up to us.
> >
> > Jerry

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

I currently reside in New England, but spent 35 years in the Arizona desert
first. I hear what you say about the guy that rebuilds heads all day. But
he can't really demand any money, because the engine overhaul business is
extremely competitive (Neco, Jasper, etc). The exception is the hotrod
market. I interviewed for a position at Arizona Speed and Marine. They are
paying pretty good for techs that will just swap engines and other major
components. They machine all of their stuff in-house, and charge handily
for it. I would imagine that those machinists are making some bread.

When you said machinist, I assumed you meant the guy that makes things, not
the engine rebuilder.


Jerry


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:40405922.553A6ED7@cox.net...
> Jerry, you said: "machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore)"
> The machinist is what I call the little guy, usually independent that
> subs the back room and does the hot tank, boring, and valves, to
> complete rebuild for that auto parts store's front counter here in
> California. Where are you?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Newton wrote:
> >
> > I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> > machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> > well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> > nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers,
usually.
> > The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but
certainly
> > is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> > benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty
match
> > on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
> >
> > Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will
be
> > employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that
at
> > a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> > automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law
is an
> > electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the
last
> > time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very
well.
> >
> > No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market
is
> > driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek
out
> > cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any
interest
> > in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> > way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue
collar
> > workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> > wages are catching up to us.
> >
> > Jerry

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

I currently reside in New England, but spent 35 years in the Arizona desert
first. I hear what you say about the guy that rebuilds heads all day. But
he can't really demand any money, because the engine overhaul business is
extremely competitive (Neco, Jasper, etc). The exception is the hotrod
market. I interviewed for a position at Arizona Speed and Marine. They are
paying pretty good for techs that will just swap engines and other major
components. They machine all of their stuff in-house, and charge handily
for it. I would imagine that those machinists are making some bread.

When you said machinist, I assumed you meant the guy that makes things, not
the engine rebuilder.


Jerry


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:40405922.553A6ED7@cox.net...
> Jerry, you said: "machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore)"
> The machinist is what I call the little guy, usually independent that
> subs the back room and does the hot tank, boring, and valves, to
> complete rebuild for that auto parts store's front counter here in
> California. Where are you?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Newton wrote:
> >
> > I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> > machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> > well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> > nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers,
usually.
> > The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but
certainly
> > is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> > benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty
match
> > on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
> >
> > Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will
be
> > employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that
at
> > a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> > automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law
is an
> > electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the
last
> > time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very
well.
> >
> > No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market
is
> > driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek
out
> > cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any
interest
> > in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> > way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue
collar
> > workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> > wages are catching up to us.
> >
> > Jerry

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

it's k0ol the way we get paid. i turn 80 hrs get paid for 80 hrs and i'm there
only for 45 actual clock hours. 70k is the norm for a 3 year dealer tech in a
suburban area in michigan

Jerry McG wrote:

> Good technicians can make over 100k a year depending upon skill level and
> product specialty. High line techs, those working on Lexus, BMW, MB, Jaguar,
> Porsche, etc. make GREAT money and in general the dealerships are better
> places to work than the GM, Ford & DC stores. Regardless, although hard
> work, being an automotive tech can be quite financially rewarding. It helps
> to have a 2-3 year automotive technology degree, ASE master certification
> and other credentials. As in any other field, the education really helps get
> you in the door.
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c1ojpb$1ktcfn$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > A while back I started a thread with the title "What does the mechanic
> get"
> > which I was trying to dermine the salary of a mechanic. All in all, the
> > responses seemed pretty bleak although I didn't specify what type of
> > mechanic we were talking about.
> >
> > Yesterday I went to the performance shop where they do Dyno testing and
> > engine "Blue printing". As I was discussing my intake manifold problem I
> > asked the guy out of curiosity, how much he would charge for a rebuild.
> He
> > prefaced the return answer with "Now, we are a perfomance shop" and then
> > told me a rebuild by him would cost somewhere around 5k.
> >
> > Later on that night I was watching the news and they had a little segment
> on
> > Jessie James (Monster Garage) who just sold a bike he build for 250k.
> >
> > So I guess there is $$$ to be made but not as much for the every day
> > mechanic? So if you can fab and "blue print" an engine you can request a
> > larger dollar for your work.
> >
> > BTW, the guy told me he had a customer come from another shop where he
> paid
> > upwards of 800.00 to grind a crank and it still wasn't right. The
> customer
> > paid this guy 90.00 and it worked perfectly. His story of course.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

it's k0ol the way we get paid. i turn 80 hrs get paid for 80 hrs and i'm there
only for 45 actual clock hours. 70k is the norm for a 3 year dealer tech in a
suburban area in michigan

Jerry McG wrote:

> Good technicians can make over 100k a year depending upon skill level and
> product specialty. High line techs, those working on Lexus, BMW, MB, Jaguar,
> Porsche, etc. make GREAT money and in general the dealerships are better
> places to work than the GM, Ford & DC stores. Regardless, although hard
> work, being an automotive tech can be quite financially rewarding. It helps
> to have a 2-3 year automotive technology degree, ASE master certification
> and other credentials. As in any other field, the education really helps get
> you in the door.
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c1ojpb$1ktcfn$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > A while back I started a thread with the title "What does the mechanic
> get"
> > which I was trying to dermine the salary of a mechanic. All in all, the
> > responses seemed pretty bleak although I didn't specify what type of
> > mechanic we were talking about.
> >
> > Yesterday I went to the performance shop where they do Dyno testing and
> > engine "Blue printing". As I was discussing my intake manifold problem I
> > asked the guy out of curiosity, how much he would charge for a rebuild.
> He
> > prefaced the return answer with "Now, we are a perfomance shop" and then
> > told me a rebuild by him would cost somewhere around 5k.
> >
> > Later on that night I was watching the news and they had a little segment
> on
> > Jessie James (Monster Garage) who just sold a bike he build for 250k.
> >
> > So I guess there is $$$ to be made but not as much for the every day
> > mechanic? So if you can fab and "blue print" an engine you can request a
> > larger dollar for your work.
> >
> > BTW, the guy told me he had a customer come from another shop where he
> paid
> > upwards of 800.00 to grind a crank and it still wasn't right. The
> customer
> > paid this guy 90.00 and it worked perfectly. His story of course.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

it's k0ol the way we get paid. i turn 80 hrs get paid for 80 hrs and i'm there
only for 45 actual clock hours. 70k is the norm for a 3 year dealer tech in a
suburban area in michigan

Jerry McG wrote:

> Good technicians can make over 100k a year depending upon skill level and
> product specialty. High line techs, those working on Lexus, BMW, MB, Jaguar,
> Porsche, etc. make GREAT money and in general the dealerships are better
> places to work than the GM, Ford & DC stores. Regardless, although hard
> work, being an automotive tech can be quite financially rewarding. It helps
> to have a 2-3 year automotive technology degree, ASE master certification
> and other credentials. As in any other field, the education really helps get
> you in the door.
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c1ojpb$1ktcfn$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > A while back I started a thread with the title "What does the mechanic
> get"
> > which I was trying to dermine the salary of a mechanic. All in all, the
> > responses seemed pretty bleak although I didn't specify what type of
> > mechanic we were talking about.
> >
> > Yesterday I went to the performance shop where they do Dyno testing and
> > engine "Blue printing". As I was discussing my intake manifold problem I
> > asked the guy out of curiosity, how much he would charge for a rebuild.
> He
> > prefaced the return answer with "Now, we are a perfomance shop" and then
> > told me a rebuild by him would cost somewhere around 5k.
> >
> > Later on that night I was watching the news and they had a little segment
> on
> > Jessie James (Monster Garage) who just sold a bike he build for 250k.
> >
> > So I guess there is $$$ to be made but not as much for the every day
> > mechanic? So if you can fab and "blue print" an engine you can request a
> > larger dollar for your work.
> >
> > BTW, the guy told me he had a customer come from another shop where he
> paid
> > upwards of 800.00 to grind a crank and it still wasn't right. The
> customer
> > paid this guy 90.00 and it worked perfectly. His story of course.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

And then folks wonder why they feel ripped off going to a dealer...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

mic canic wrote:
>
> it's k0ol the way we get paid. i turn 80 hrs get paid for 80 hrs and i'm there
> only for 45 actual clock hours. 70k is the norm for a 3 year dealer tech in a
> suburban area in michigan
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
>
> > Good technicians can make over 100k a year depending upon skill level and
> > product specialty. High line techs, those working on Lexus, BMW, MB, Jaguar,
> > Porsche, etc. make GREAT money and in general the dealerships are better
> > places to work than the GM, Ford & DC stores. Regardless, although hard
> > work, being an automotive tech can be quite financially rewarding. It helps
> > to have a 2-3 year automotive technology degree, ASE master certification
> > and other credentials. As in any other field, the education really helps get
> > you in the door.
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:c1ojpb$1ktcfn$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > A while back I started a thread with the title "What does the mechanic
> > get"
> > > which I was trying to dermine the salary of a mechanic. All in all, the
> > > responses seemed pretty bleak although I didn't specify what type of
> > > mechanic we were talking about.
> > >
> > > Yesterday I went to the performance shop where they do Dyno testing and
> > > engine "Blue printing". As I was discussing my intake manifold problem I
> > > asked the guy out of curiosity, how much he would charge for a rebuild.
> > He
> > > prefaced the return answer with "Now, we are a perfomance shop" and then
> > > told me a rebuild by him would cost somewhere around 5k.
> > >
> > > Later on that night I was watching the news and they had a little segment
> > on
> > > Jessie James (Monster Garage) who just sold a bike he build for 250k.
> > >
> > > So I guess there is $$$ to be made but not as much for the every day
> > > mechanic? So if you can fab and "blue print" an engine you can request a
> > > larger dollar for your work.
> > >
> > > BTW, the guy told me he had a customer come from another shop where he
> > paid
> > > upwards of 800.00 to grind a crank and it still wasn't right. The
> > customer
> > > paid this guy 90.00 and it worked perfectly. His story of course.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

And then folks wonder why they feel ripped off going to a dealer...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

mic canic wrote:
>
> it's k0ol the way we get paid. i turn 80 hrs get paid for 80 hrs and i'm there
> only for 45 actual clock hours. 70k is the norm for a 3 year dealer tech in a
> suburban area in michigan
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
>
> > Good technicians can make over 100k a year depending upon skill level and
> > product specialty. High line techs, those working on Lexus, BMW, MB, Jaguar,
> > Porsche, etc. make GREAT money and in general the dealerships are better
> > places to work than the GM, Ford & DC stores. Regardless, although hard
> > work, being an automotive tech can be quite financially rewarding. It helps
> > to have a 2-3 year automotive technology degree, ASE master certification
> > and other credentials. As in any other field, the education really helps get
> > you in the door.
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:c1ojpb$1ktcfn$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > A while back I started a thread with the title "What does the mechanic
> > get"
> > > which I was trying to dermine the salary of a mechanic. All in all, the
> > > responses seemed pretty bleak although I didn't specify what type of
> > > mechanic we were talking about.
> > >
> > > Yesterday I went to the performance shop where they do Dyno testing and
> > > engine "Blue printing". As I was discussing my intake manifold problem I
> > > asked the guy out of curiosity, how much he would charge for a rebuild.
> > He
> > > prefaced the return answer with "Now, we are a perfomance shop" and then
> > > told me a rebuild by him would cost somewhere around 5k.
> > >
> > > Later on that night I was watching the news and they had a little segment
> > on
> > > Jessie James (Monster Garage) who just sold a bike he build for 250k.
> > >
> > > So I guess there is $$$ to be made but not as much for the every day
> > > mechanic? So if you can fab and "blue print" an engine you can request a
> > > larger dollar for your work.
> > >
> > > BTW, the guy told me he had a customer come from another shop where he
> > paid
> > > upwards of 800.00 to grind a crank and it still wasn't right. The
> > customer
> > > paid this guy 90.00 and it worked perfectly. His story of course.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

And then folks wonder why they feel ripped off going to a dealer...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

mic canic wrote:
>
> it's k0ol the way we get paid. i turn 80 hrs get paid for 80 hrs and i'm there
> only for 45 actual clock hours. 70k is the norm for a 3 year dealer tech in a
> suburban area in michigan
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
>
> > Good technicians can make over 100k a year depending upon skill level and
> > product specialty. High line techs, those working on Lexus, BMW, MB, Jaguar,
> > Porsche, etc. make GREAT money and in general the dealerships are better
> > places to work than the GM, Ford & DC stores. Regardless, although hard
> > work, being an automotive tech can be quite financially rewarding. It helps
> > to have a 2-3 year automotive technology degree, ASE master certification
> > and other credentials. As in any other field, the education really helps get
> > you in the door.
> >
> > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > news:c1ojpb$1ktcfn$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > A while back I started a thread with the title "What does the mechanic
> > get"
> > > which I was trying to dermine the salary of a mechanic. All in all, the
> > > responses seemed pretty bleak although I didn't specify what type of
> > > mechanic we were talking about.
> > >
> > > Yesterday I went to the performance shop where they do Dyno testing and
> > > engine "Blue printing". As I was discussing my intake manifold problem I
> > > asked the guy out of curiosity, how much he would charge for a rebuild.
> > He
> > > prefaced the return answer with "Now, we are a perfomance shop" and then
> > > told me a rebuild by him would cost somewhere around 5k.
> > >
> > > Later on that night I was watching the news and they had a little segment
> > on
> > > Jessie James (Monster Garage) who just sold a bike he build for 250k.
> > >
> > > So I guess there is $$$ to be made but not as much for the every day
> > > mechanic? So if you can fab and "blue print" an engine you can request a
> > > larger dollar for your work.
> > >
> > > BTW, the guy told me he had a customer come from another shop where he
> > paid
> > > upwards of 800.00 to grind a crank and it still wasn't right. The
> > customer
> > > paid this guy 90.00 and it worked perfectly. His story of course.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

you are right and i just go with the system. i did not invent it! the flat rate pay
system was invented in the late 20's by gm and should be denounced by a.s.e but it's
not

Mike Romain wrote:

> And then folks wonder why they feel ripped off going to a dealer...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> mic canic wrote:
> >
> > it's k0ol the way we get paid. i turn 80 hrs get paid for 80 hrs and i'm there
> > only for 45 actual clock hours. 70k is the norm for a 3 year dealer tech in a
> > suburban area in michigan
> >
> > Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > > Good technicians can make over 100k a year depending upon skill level and
> > > product specialty. High line techs, those working on Lexus, BMW, MB, Jaguar,
> > > Porsche, etc. make GREAT money and in general the dealerships are better
> > > places to work than the GM, Ford & DC stores. Regardless, although hard
> > > work, being an automotive tech can be quite financially rewarding. It helps
> > > to have a 2-3 year automotive technology degree, ASE master certification
> > > and other credentials. As in any other field, the education really helps get
> > > you in the door.
> > >
> > > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > > news:c1ojpb$1ktcfn$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > A while back I started a thread with the title "What does the mechanic
> > > get"
> > > > which I was trying to dermine the salary of a mechanic. All in all, the
> > > > responses seemed pretty bleak although I didn't specify what type of
> > > > mechanic we were talking about.
> > > >
> > > > Yesterday I went to the performance shop where they do Dyno testing and
> > > > engine "Blue printing". As I was discussing my intake manifold problem I
> > > > asked the guy out of curiosity, how much he would charge for a rebuild.
> > > He
> > > > prefaced the return answer with "Now, we are a perfomance shop" and then
> > > > told me a rebuild by him would cost somewhere around 5k.
> > > >
> > > > Later on that night I was watching the news and they had a little segment
> > > on
> > > > Jessie James (Monster Garage) who just sold a bike he build for 250k.
> > > >
> > > > So I guess there is $$$ to be made but not as much for the every day
> > > > mechanic? So if you can fab and "blue print" an engine you can request a
> > > > larger dollar for your work.
> > > >
> > > > BTW, the guy told me he had a customer come from another shop where he
> > > paid
> > > > upwards of 800.00 to grind a crank and it still wasn't right. The
> > > customer
> > > > paid this guy 90.00 and it worked perfectly. His story of course.
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

you are right and i just go with the system. i did not invent it! the flat rate pay
system was invented in the late 20's by gm and should be denounced by a.s.e but it's
not

Mike Romain wrote:

> And then folks wonder why they feel ripped off going to a dealer...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> mic canic wrote:
> >
> > it's k0ol the way we get paid. i turn 80 hrs get paid for 80 hrs and i'm there
> > only for 45 actual clock hours. 70k is the norm for a 3 year dealer tech in a
> > suburban area in michigan
> >
> > Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > > Good technicians can make over 100k a year depending upon skill level and
> > > product specialty. High line techs, those working on Lexus, BMW, MB, Jaguar,
> > > Porsche, etc. make GREAT money and in general the dealerships are better
> > > places to work than the GM, Ford & DC stores. Regardless, although hard
> > > work, being an automotive tech can be quite financially rewarding. It helps
> > > to have a 2-3 year automotive technology degree, ASE master certification
> > > and other credentials. As in any other field, the education really helps get
> > > you in the door.
> > >
> > > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > > news:c1ojpb$1ktcfn$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > A while back I started a thread with the title "What does the mechanic
> > > get"
> > > > which I was trying to dermine the salary of a mechanic. All in all, the
> > > > responses seemed pretty bleak although I didn't specify what type of
> > > > mechanic we were talking about.
> > > >
> > > > Yesterday I went to the performance shop where they do Dyno testing and
> > > > engine "Blue printing". As I was discussing my intake manifold problem I
> > > > asked the guy out of curiosity, how much he would charge for a rebuild.
> > > He
> > > > prefaced the return answer with "Now, we are a perfomance shop" and then
> > > > told me a rebuild by him would cost somewhere around 5k.
> > > >
> > > > Later on that night I was watching the news and they had a little segment
> > > on
> > > > Jessie James (Monster Garage) who just sold a bike he build for 250k.
> > > >
> > > > So I guess there is $$$ to be made but not as much for the every day
> > > > mechanic? So if you can fab and "blue print" an engine you can request a
> > > > larger dollar for your work.
> > > >
> > > > BTW, the guy told me he had a customer come from another shop where he
> > > paid
> > > > upwards of 800.00 to grind a crank and it still wasn't right. The
> > > customer
> > > > paid this guy 90.00 and it worked perfectly. His story of course.
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

you are right and i just go with the system. i did not invent it! the flat rate pay
system was invented in the late 20's by gm and should be denounced by a.s.e but it's
not

Mike Romain wrote:

> And then folks wonder why they feel ripped off going to a dealer...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> mic canic wrote:
> >
> > it's k0ol the way we get paid. i turn 80 hrs get paid for 80 hrs and i'm there
> > only for 45 actual clock hours. 70k is the norm for a 3 year dealer tech in a
> > suburban area in michigan
> >
> > Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > > Good technicians can make over 100k a year depending upon skill level and
> > > product specialty. High line techs, those working on Lexus, BMW, MB, Jaguar,
> > > Porsche, etc. make GREAT money and in general the dealerships are better
> > > places to work than the GM, Ford & DC stores. Regardless, although hard
> > > work, being an automotive tech can be quite financially rewarding. It helps
> > > to have a 2-3 year automotive technology degree, ASE master certification
> > > and other credentials. As in any other field, the education really helps get
> > > you in the door.
> > >
> > > "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> > > news:c1ojpb$1ktcfn$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > A while back I started a thread with the title "What does the mechanic
> > > get"
> > > > which I was trying to dermine the salary of a mechanic. All in all, the
> > > > responses seemed pretty bleak although I didn't specify what type of
> > > > mechanic we were talking about.
> > > >
> > > > Yesterday I went to the performance shop where they do Dyno testing and
> > > > engine "Blue printing". As I was discussing my intake manifold problem I
> > > > asked the guy out of curiosity, how much he would charge for a rebuild.
> > > He
> > > > prefaced the return answer with "Now, we are a perfomance shop" and then
> > > > told me a rebuild by him would cost somewhere around 5k.
> > > >
> > > > Later on that night I was watching the news and they had a little segment
> > > on
> > > > Jessie James (Monster Garage) who just sold a bike he build for 250k.
> > > >
> > > > So I guess there is $$$ to be made but not as much for the every day
> > > > mechanic? So if you can fab and "blue print" an engine you can request a
> > > > larger dollar for your work.
> > > >
> > > > BTW, the guy told me he had a customer come from another shop where he
> > > paid
> > > > upwards of 800.00 to grind a crank and it still wasn't right. The
> > > customer
> > > > paid this guy 90.00 and it worked perfectly. His story of course.
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

Lake Havasu? I know a Darrel Call, that's been in the business
there for over twenty years, he's got a beautiful '69 Corvette, if ever
would make enough money to finish it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I currently reside in New England, but spent 35 years in the Arizona desert
> first. I hear what you say about the guy that rebuilds heads all day. But
> he can't really demand any money, because the engine overhaul business is
> extremely competitive (Neco, Jasper, etc). The exception is the hotrod
> market. I interviewed for a position at Arizona Speed and Marine. They are
> paying pretty good for techs that will just swap engines and other major
> components. They machine all of their stuff in-house, and charge handily
> for it. I would imagine that those machinists are making some bread.
>
> When you said machinist, I assumed you meant the guy that makes things, not
> the engine rebuilder.
>
> Jerry

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

Lake Havasu? I know a Darrel Call, that's been in the business
there for over twenty years, he's got a beautiful '69 Corvette, if ever
would make enough money to finish it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I currently reside in New England, but spent 35 years in the Arizona desert
> first. I hear what you say about the guy that rebuilds heads all day. But
> he can't really demand any money, because the engine overhaul business is
> extremely competitive (Neco, Jasper, etc). The exception is the hotrod
> market. I interviewed for a position at Arizona Speed and Marine. They are
> paying pretty good for techs that will just swap engines and other major
> components. They machine all of their stuff in-house, and charge handily
> for it. I would imagine that those machinists are making some bread.
>
> When you said machinist, I assumed you meant the guy that makes things, not
> the engine rebuilder.
>
> Jerry

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

Lake Havasu? I know a Darrel Call, that's been in the business
there for over twenty years, he's got a beautiful '69 Corvette, if ever
would make enough money to finish it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I currently reside in New England, but spent 35 years in the Arizona desert
> first. I hear what you say about the guy that rebuilds heads all day. But
> he can't really demand any money, because the engine overhaul business is
> extremely competitive (Neco, Jasper, etc). The exception is the hotrod
> market. I interviewed for a position at Arizona Speed and Marine. They are
> paying pretty good for techs that will just swap engines and other major
> components. They machine all of their stuff in-house, and charge handily
> for it. I would imagine that those machinists are making some bread.
>
> When you said machinist, I assumed you meant the guy that makes things, not
> the engine rebuilder.
>
> Jerry

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

That's BS, He's talking flat rate, which only establishes the work
order's total value. He could say something like that if he was an
independent operator leasing a stall, but then of course the number of
hours he works have nothing to do with an "hourly rate", but on a profit
and loss statement.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> And then folks wonder why they feel ripped off going to a dealer...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

That's BS, He's talking flat rate, which only establishes the work
order's total value. He could say something like that if he was an
independent operator leasing a stall, but then of course the number of
hours he works have nothing to do with an "hourly rate", but on a profit
and loss statement.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> And then folks wonder why they feel ripped off going to a dealer...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

That's BS, He's talking flat rate, which only establishes the work
order's total value. He could say something like that if he was an
independent operator leasing a stall, but then of course the number of
hours he works have nothing to do with an "hourly rate", but on a profit
and loss statement.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> And then folks wonder why they feel ripped off going to a dealer...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

you do the math i turn80 hours.meaning i get paid for 80 hours worth of
work and get 27.50 for each of those hours and i'm only there 45 hours
thats hgow it works at a flat rate shop it's not a percentage shop pay plan


"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:

> That's BS, He's talking flat rate, which only establishes the work
> order's total value. He could say something like that if he was an
> independent operator leasing a stall, but then of course the number of
> hours he works have nothing to do with an "hourly rate", but on a profit
> and loss statement.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > And then folks wonder why they feel ripped off going to a dealer...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

you do the math i turn80 hours.meaning i get paid for 80 hours worth of
work and get 27.50 for each of those hours and i'm only there 45 hours
thats hgow it works at a flat rate shop it's not a percentage shop pay plan


"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:

> That's BS, He's talking flat rate, which only establishes the work
> order's total value. He could say something like that if he was an
> independent operator leasing a stall, but then of course the number of
> hours he works have nothing to do with an "hourly rate", but on a profit
> and loss statement.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > And then folks wonder why they feel ripped off going to a dealer...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
 

you do the math i turn80 hours.meaning i get paid for 80 hours worth of
work and get 27.50 for each of those hours and i'm only there 45 hours
thats hgow it works at a flat rate shop it's not a percentage shop pay plan


"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:

> That's BS, He's talking flat rate, which only establishes the work
> order's total value. He could say something like that if he was an
> independent operator leasing a stall, but then of course the number of
> hours he works have nothing to do with an "hourly rate", but on a profit
> and loss statement.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > And then folks wonder why they feel ripped off going to a dealer...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's