Re: LP Dana 30 Housings
 

Sorry Peter, wouldn't want you to bet your money on my guess .....
The Jeep dealer should tell you if the part numbers are the same.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Peter Pontbriand" <TRIMsprocketATstormDOTcaTRIM> wrote in message
news:fuadnVuV_Mi16eDfRVn-hA@storm.ca...
> No one on this newsgroup knows anything about recent Jeep Dana 30s? Seems
> hard to believe ...
>
> /Peter
>
> "Peter Pontbriand" <TRIMsprocketATstormDOTcaTRIM> wrote in message
> news:Gqidncif6ugWKebfRVn-3g@storm.ca...
> > Can anybody tell me whether the Dana 30 axle housings and gears are the
> same
> > or not between a 2002 TJ Sport and a '98 Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited?
They
> > are both low pinion housings with 3.73 gears. The Grand has CV shafts
and
> > ABS, the TJ has good old U-Joints and no ABS. However, the size and
spline
> > count of the axle shafts is the same right? There may be some difference
> in
> > the knuckles that I don't care about, and the Grand has some sort of
fancy
> > doohickey on the front of the front driveshaft, but the pinions should
be
> > the same, eh?
> >
> > The reason I ask is because the bearings are shot in the Grand
Cherokee's
> > font axle (they're making noise) and I'm in the process of swapping out
> the
> > TJ front axle. I'm thinking of bolting the TJ's Dana 30 housing onto the
> ZJ,
> > keeping the ZJ knuckles and axle shafts on the ZJ. Will this work?
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> >
>
>

Re: LP Dana 30 Housings
 

Sorry Peter, wouldn't want you to bet your money on my guess .....
The Jeep dealer should tell you if the part numbers are the same.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Peter Pontbriand" <TRIMsprocketATstormDOTcaTRIM> wrote in message
news:fuadnVuV_Mi16eDfRVn-hA@storm.ca...
> No one on this newsgroup knows anything about recent Jeep Dana 30s? Seems
> hard to believe ...
>
> /Peter
>
> "Peter Pontbriand" <TRIMsprocketATstormDOTcaTRIM> wrote in message
> news:Gqidncif6ugWKebfRVn-3g@storm.ca...
> > Can anybody tell me whether the Dana 30 axle housings and gears are the
> same
> > or not between a 2002 TJ Sport and a '98 Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited?
They
> > are both low pinion housings with 3.73 gears. The Grand has CV shafts
and
> > ABS, the TJ has good old U-Joints and no ABS. However, the size and
spline
> > count of the axle shafts is the same right? There may be some difference
> in
> > the knuckles that I don't care about, and the Grand has some sort of
fancy
> > doohickey on the front of the front driveshaft, but the pinions should
be
> > the same, eh?
> >
> > The reason I ask is because the bearings are shot in the Grand
Cherokee's
> > font axle (they're making noise) and I'm in the process of swapping out
> the
> > TJ front axle. I'm thinking of bolting the TJ's Dana 30 housing onto the
> ZJ,
> > keeping the ZJ knuckles and axle shafts on the ZJ. Will this work?
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> >
>
>

Re: LP Dana 30 Housings
 

Sorry Peter, wouldn't want you to bet your money on my guess .....
The Jeep dealer should tell you if the part numbers are the same.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Peter Pontbriand" <TRIMsprocketATstormDOTcaTRIM> wrote in message
news:fuadnVuV_Mi16eDfRVn-hA@storm.ca...
> No one on this newsgroup knows anything about recent Jeep Dana 30s? Seems
> hard to believe ...
>
> /Peter
>
> "Peter Pontbriand" <TRIMsprocketATstormDOTcaTRIM> wrote in message
> news:Gqidncif6ugWKebfRVn-3g@storm.ca...
> > Can anybody tell me whether the Dana 30 axle housings and gears are the
> same
> > or not between a 2002 TJ Sport and a '98 Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited?
They
> > are both low pinion housings with 3.73 gears. The Grand has CV shafts
and
> > ABS, the TJ has good old U-Joints and no ABS. However, the size and
spline
> > count of the axle shafts is the same right? There may be some difference
> in
> > the knuckles that I don't care about, and the Grand has some sort of
fancy
> > doohickey on the front of the front driveshaft, but the pinions should
be
> > the same, eh?
> >
> > The reason I ask is because the bearings are shot in the Grand
Cherokee's
> > font axle (they're making noise) and I'm in the process of swapping out
> the
> > TJ front axle. I'm thinking of bolting the TJ's Dana 30 housing onto the
> ZJ,
> > keeping the ZJ knuckles and axle shafts on the ZJ. Will this work?
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> >
>
>

Re: LP Dana 30 Housings
 

The TJ housing will bolt on to the ZJ control arms and track bar. The ZJ
knuckles (and with them brakes & steering) will bolt on to the TJ
housing. I believe however that the dimensions of CV and U-joints are
different and you'll need to machine and weld spacers to push the
knuckles out to compensate. The TJ axles will fit the ZJ side gears.

Might be easier to replace the bearings.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org


Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> Can anybody tell me whether the Dana 30 axle housings and gears are the same
> or not between a 2002 TJ Sport and a '98 Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited? They
> are both low pinion housings with 3.73 gears. The Grand has CV shafts and
> ABS, the TJ has good old U-Joints and no ABS. However, the size and spline
> count of the axle shafts is the same right? There may be some difference in
> the knuckles that I don't care about, and the Grand has some sort of fancy
> doohickey on the front of the front driveshaft, but the pinions should be
> the same, eh?
>
> The reason I ask is because the bearings are shot in the Grand Cherokee's
> font axle (they're making noise) and I'm in the process of swapping out the
> TJ front axle. I thinking of bolting the TJ's Dana 30 housing onto the ZJ,
> keeping the ZJ knuckles and axle shafts on the ZJ. Will this work?
>
> /Peter

Re: LP Dana 30 Housings
 

The TJ housing will bolt on to the ZJ control arms and track bar. The ZJ
knuckles (and with them brakes & steering) will bolt on to the TJ
housing. I believe however that the dimensions of CV and U-joints are
different and you'll need to machine and weld spacers to push the
knuckles out to compensate. The TJ axles will fit the ZJ side gears.

Might be easier to replace the bearings.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org


Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> Can anybody tell me whether the Dana 30 axle housings and gears are the same
> or not between a 2002 TJ Sport and a '98 Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited? They
> are both low pinion housings with 3.73 gears. The Grand has CV shafts and
> ABS, the TJ has good old U-Joints and no ABS. However, the size and spline
> count of the axle shafts is the same right? There may be some difference in
> the knuckles that I don't care about, and the Grand has some sort of fancy
> doohickey on the front of the front driveshaft, but the pinions should be
> the same, eh?
>
> The reason I ask is because the bearings are shot in the Grand Cherokee's
> font axle (they're making noise) and I'm in the process of swapping out the
> TJ front axle. I thinking of bolting the TJ's Dana 30 housing onto the ZJ,
> keeping the ZJ knuckles and axle shafts on the ZJ. Will this work?
>
> /Peter

Re: LP Dana 30 Housings
 

The TJ housing will bolt on to the ZJ control arms and track bar. The ZJ
knuckles (and with them brakes & steering) will bolt on to the TJ
housing. I believe however that the dimensions of CV and U-joints are
different and you'll need to machine and weld spacers to push the
knuckles out to compensate. The TJ axles will fit the ZJ side gears.

Might be easier to replace the bearings.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org


Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> Can anybody tell me whether the Dana 30 axle housings and gears are the same
> or not between a 2002 TJ Sport and a '98 Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited? They
> are both low pinion housings with 3.73 gears. The Grand has CV shafts and
> ABS, the TJ has good old U-Joints and no ABS. However, the size and spline
> count of the axle shafts is the same right? There may be some difference in
> the knuckles that I don't care about, and the Grand has some sort of fancy
> doohickey on the front of the front driveshaft, but the pinions should be
> the same, eh?
>
> The reason I ask is because the bearings are shot in the Grand Cherokee's
> font axle (they're making noise) and I'm in the process of swapping out the
> TJ front axle. I thinking of bolting the TJ's Dana 30 housing onto the ZJ,
> keeping the ZJ knuckles and axle shafts on the ZJ. Will this work?
>
> /Peter

Re: LP Dana 30 Housings
 

The TJ housing will bolt on to the ZJ control arms and track bar. The ZJ
knuckles (and with them brakes & steering) will bolt on to the TJ
housing. I believe however that the dimensions of CV and U-joints are
different and you'll need to machine and weld spacers to push the
knuckles out to compensate. The TJ axles will fit the ZJ side gears.

Might be easier to replace the bearings.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org


Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> Can anybody tell me whether the Dana 30 axle housings and gears are the same
> or not between a 2002 TJ Sport and a '98 Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited? They
> are both low pinion housings with 3.73 gears. The Grand has CV shafts and
> ABS, the TJ has good old U-Joints and no ABS. However, the size and spline
> count of the axle shafts is the same right? There may be some difference in
> the knuckles that I don't care about, and the Grand has some sort of fancy
> doohickey on the front of the front driveshaft, but the pinions should be
> the same, eh?
>
> The reason I ask is because the bearings are shot in the Grand Cherokee's
> font axle (they're making noise) and I'm in the process of swapping out the
> TJ front axle. I thinking of bolting the TJ's Dana 30 housing onto the ZJ,
> keeping the ZJ knuckles and axle shafts on the ZJ. Will this work?
>
> /Peter

Re: LP Dana 30 Housings
 

Thicker (the ring gear, not you). And only the carrier is Japanese. The
gears are Dana.

http://xjeep.dyndns.org/trulok/IMG_7870.JPG
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/trulok/

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> The standard rotation 3.73 appear to be the same. I used to think a Dana
> 44, was a Dana 44 from the forties on, but I learned the Rubicon uses
> the Japanese thinner ring gear.

Re: LP Dana 30 Housings
 

Thicker (the ring gear, not you). And only the carrier is Japanese. The
gears are Dana.

http://xjeep.dyndns.org/trulok/IMG_7870.JPG
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/trulok/

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> The standard rotation 3.73 appear to be the same. I used to think a Dana
> 44, was a Dana 44 from the forties on, but I learned the Rubicon uses
> the Japanese thinner ring gear.

Re: LP Dana 30 Housings
 

Thicker (the ring gear, not you). And only the carrier is Japanese. The
gears are Dana.

http://xjeep.dyndns.org/trulok/IMG_7870.JPG
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/trulok/

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> The standard rotation 3.73 appear to be the same. I used to think a Dana
> 44, was a Dana 44 from the forties on, but I learned the Rubicon uses
> the Japanese thinner ring gear.