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Spdloader 08-06-2006 02:56 PM

Re: Low TJ oil pressure = new oil pump?
 


> The pressure is "made" by the pump. Bearings is where it could be
> "lost".
>


That's what I was saying, note the quotes around the word "made".

Spdloader



Spdloader 08-06-2006 02:56 PM

Re: Low TJ oil pressure = new oil pump?
 


> The pressure is "made" by the pump. Bearings is where it could be
> "lost".
>


That's what I was saying, note the quotes around the word "made".

Spdloader



Spdloader 08-06-2006 02:56 PM

Re: Low TJ oil pressure = new oil pump?
 


> The pressure is "made" by the pump. Bearings is where it could be
> "lost".
>


That's what I was saying, note the quotes around the word "made".

Spdloader



Will Honea 08-06-2006 10:37 PM

Re: Low TJ oil pressure = new oil pump?
 
I had that erratic drop problem and it turned out to be the thin paper
gasket between the pump housing and the block. Since it also had a
sticking pressure relief valve (ridge in the bore) I changed the pump
anyway. Don't forget to prime that sucker if you take it off - you
may never get oil pressure if you forget.

On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 17:43:29 UTC RalphDL@webtv.net (Ralph DL) wrote:

> Bill ------
>
> Thanks for the schematic... that helps my understanding of the TJ's pump
> operation... seems typical for engines.
>
> Over the past 56 years I've had many cars... starting with a 40 Hudson,
> 33,34,36,37,38,41,67,73 Fords, 47,49,53 Lincolns, 41 Plymouth,
> 49,49,51,47,65,80,86,97,51 Jeeps, 65,67 Scouts, 65,73 Chevies, 88 Dodge,
> and none ever had oil pump failures. I just don't get it.
>
> If the camshaft turns a "jackshaft" which drives the pump, can worn
> bearings be the culprit? The pressure does not always drop when the
> engine is at idle... I'd guess only about a third of the times when the
> engine speed drops to idle... most of the time it drops to about 20-25.
>
> It NEVER drops at road speeds... city or highway.
>
> Ralph
>
>
>
> God exists, or God does not exist, or I am God and I am dreaming all
> this.
>



--
Will Honea

Will Honea 08-06-2006 10:37 PM

Re: Low TJ oil pressure = new oil pump?
 
I had that erratic drop problem and it turned out to be the thin paper
gasket between the pump housing and the block. Since it also had a
sticking pressure relief valve (ridge in the bore) I changed the pump
anyway. Don't forget to prime that sucker if you take it off - you
may never get oil pressure if you forget.

On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 17:43:29 UTC RalphDL@webtv.net (Ralph DL) wrote:

> Bill ------
>
> Thanks for the schematic... that helps my understanding of the TJ's pump
> operation... seems typical for engines.
>
> Over the past 56 years I've had many cars... starting with a 40 Hudson,
> 33,34,36,37,38,41,67,73 Fords, 47,49,53 Lincolns, 41 Plymouth,
> 49,49,51,47,65,80,86,97,51 Jeeps, 65,67 Scouts, 65,73 Chevies, 88 Dodge,
> and none ever had oil pump failures. I just don't get it.
>
> If the camshaft turns a "jackshaft" which drives the pump, can worn
> bearings be the culprit? The pressure does not always drop when the
> engine is at idle... I'd guess only about a third of the times when the
> engine speed drops to idle... most of the time it drops to about 20-25.
>
> It NEVER drops at road speeds... city or highway.
>
> Ralph
>
>
>
> God exists, or God does not exist, or I am God and I am dreaming all
> this.
>



--
Will Honea

Will Honea 08-06-2006 10:37 PM

Re: Low TJ oil pressure = new oil pump?
 
I had that erratic drop problem and it turned out to be the thin paper
gasket between the pump housing and the block. Since it also had a
sticking pressure relief valve (ridge in the bore) I changed the pump
anyway. Don't forget to prime that sucker if you take it off - you
may never get oil pressure if you forget.

On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 17:43:29 UTC RalphDL@webtv.net (Ralph DL) wrote:

> Bill ------
>
> Thanks for the schematic... that helps my understanding of the TJ's pump
> operation... seems typical for engines.
>
> Over the past 56 years I've had many cars... starting with a 40 Hudson,
> 33,34,36,37,38,41,67,73 Fords, 47,49,53 Lincolns, 41 Plymouth,
> 49,49,51,47,65,80,86,97,51 Jeeps, 65,67 Scouts, 65,73 Chevies, 88 Dodge,
> and none ever had oil pump failures. I just don't get it.
>
> If the camshaft turns a "jackshaft" which drives the pump, can worn
> bearings be the culprit? The pressure does not always drop when the
> engine is at idle... I'd guess only about a third of the times when the
> engine speed drops to idle... most of the time it drops to about 20-25.
>
> It NEVER drops at road speeds... city or highway.
>
> Ralph
>
>
>
> God exists, or God does not exist, or I am God and I am dreaming all
> this.
>



--
Will Honea

Will Honea 08-06-2006 10:37 PM

Re: Low TJ oil pressure = new oil pump?
 
I had that erratic drop problem and it turned out to be the thin paper
gasket between the pump housing and the block. Since it also had a
sticking pressure relief valve (ridge in the bore) I changed the pump
anyway. Don't forget to prime that sucker if you take it off - you
may never get oil pressure if you forget.

On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 17:43:29 UTC RalphDL@webtv.net (Ralph DL) wrote:

> Bill ------
>
> Thanks for the schematic... that helps my understanding of the TJ's pump
> operation... seems typical for engines.
>
> Over the past 56 years I've had many cars... starting with a 40 Hudson,
> 33,34,36,37,38,41,67,73 Fords, 47,49,53 Lincolns, 41 Plymouth,
> 49,49,51,47,65,80,86,97,51 Jeeps, 65,67 Scouts, 65,73 Chevies, 88 Dodge,
> and none ever had oil pump failures. I just don't get it.
>
> If the camshaft turns a "jackshaft" which drives the pump, can worn
> bearings be the culprit? The pressure does not always drop when the
> engine is at idle... I'd guess only about a third of the times when the
> engine speed drops to idle... most of the time it drops to about 20-25.
>
> It NEVER drops at road speeds... city or highway.
>
> Ralph
>
>
>
> God exists, or God does not exist, or I am God and I am dreaming all
> this.
>



--
Will Honea

bllsht 08-06-2006 10:40 PM

Re: Low TJ oil pressure = new oil pump?
 
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 18:56:16 GMT, "Spdloader"
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:

>
>
>> The pressure is "made" by the pump. Bearings is where it could be
>> "lost".
>>

>
>That's what I was saying, note the quotes around the word "made".
>
>Spdloader
>



Oh, I see. The quotes mean you were wrong on purpose. I guess I've
just never seen them used that way before...


bllsht 08-06-2006 10:40 PM

Re: Low TJ oil pressure = new oil pump?
 
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 18:56:16 GMT, "Spdloader"
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:

>
>
>> The pressure is "made" by the pump. Bearings is where it could be
>> "lost".
>>

>
>That's what I was saying, note the quotes around the word "made".
>
>Spdloader
>



Oh, I see. The quotes mean you were wrong on purpose. I guess I've
just never seen them used that way before...


bllsht 08-06-2006 10:40 PM

Re: Low TJ oil pressure = new oil pump?
 
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 18:56:16 GMT, "Spdloader"
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:

>
>
>> The pressure is "made" by the pump. Bearings is where it could be
>> "lost".
>>

>
>That's what I was saying, note the quotes around the word "made".
>
>Spdloader
>



Oh, I see. The quotes mean you were wrong on purpose. I guess I've
just never seen them used that way before...



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