"Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks for all the input. And what type of bushing should I say I need
> when I go in to buy it on friday? Thanks Jamie

Jamie,

You have to look at the parts to see exactly which ones are worn. As I
remember in these types of shifters there is a ball with grooves in it on
the lower part of the stick shift, that fits in a socket on top of the
transmission. It would have pins to keep it in alignment and a cap and
spring to hold it in place. Any of these parts could be worn. The lower
end of the shifter, where it fits into the shift rails, could be worn also.
You just don't know until you take the shifter apart to see what is what,
unless this is a common problem and you run into an experienced Toyota
mechanic. I remember one case a long time ago, on a Corolla or something,
where I had to build up the ball by welding it, cut new grooves in it, and
replace the pins. We didn't spend more than $5.00 for parts but the labor
was considerable. Maybe you will get lucky and the spring is just broken.

Good luck,

Earle




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Earle Horton wrote:
> "Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:baafa536-2898-450d-b5a9-7aafc08c5ef0@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>>Thanks for all the input. And what type of bushing should I say I need
>>when I go in to buy it on friday? Thanks Jamie
>
>
> Jamie,
>
> You have to look at the parts to see exactly which ones are worn. As I
> remember in these types of shifters there is a ball with grooves in it on
> the lower part of the stick shift, that fits in a socket on top of the
> transmission. It would have pins to keep it in alignment and a cap and
> spring to hold it in place. Any of these parts could be worn. The lower
> end of the shifter, where it fits into the shift rails, could be worn also.
> You just don't know until you take the shifter apart to see what is what,
> unless this is a common problem and you run into an experienced Toyota
> mechanic. I remember one case a long time ago, on a Corolla or something,
> where I had to build up the ball by welding it, cut new grooves in it, and
> replace the pins. We didn't spend more than $5.00 for parts but the labor
> was considerable. Maybe you will get lucky and the spring is just broken.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Earle
>
>
>
>
I don't know anything about Toyotas (I think I drove one once), but when
Jamie was first asking I looked up shifter parts for it and the only
thing listed was a bushing, and the Toyota guys have also mentioned that
as a possibility. Not sure just what that bushing is but it seems like
a good place to start.

Jeff DeWitt

 

Earle Horton wrote:
> "Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:baafa536-2898-450d-b5a9-7aafc08c5ef0@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>>Thanks for all the input. And what type of bushing should I say I need
>>when I go in to buy it on friday? Thanks Jamie
>
>
> Jamie,
>
> You have to look at the parts to see exactly which ones are worn. As I
> remember in these types of shifters there is a ball with grooves in it on
> the lower part of the stick shift, that fits in a socket on top of the
> transmission. It would have pins to keep it in alignment and a cap and
> spring to hold it in place. Any of these parts could be worn. The lower
> end of the shifter, where it fits into the shift rails, could be worn also.
> You just don't know until you take the shifter apart to see what is what,
> unless this is a common problem and you run into an experienced Toyota
> mechanic. I remember one case a long time ago, on a Corolla or something,
> where I had to build up the ball by welding it, cut new grooves in it, and
> replace the pins. We didn't spend more than $5.00 for parts but the labor
> was considerable. Maybe you will get lucky and the spring is just broken.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Earle
>
>
>
>
I don't know anything about Toyotas (I think I drove one once), but when
Jamie was first asking I looked up shifter parts for it and the only
thing listed was a bushing, and the Toyota guys have also mentioned that
as a possibility. Not sure just what that bushing is but it seems like
a good place to start.

Jeff DeWitt

 

XS11E wrote:
> Jamie Mello <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> I have a 1983 toyta 4X4 pickup. And there is a lot of play in my
>> stick shifter. (it was like that when I bought it) And The shop
>> says I need a new transmission now. And they said to me that it
>> should not be on the road even. And that does not sound right to
>> me. The transmission works fine it shifts in all the gears fine.
>> It just has a lot of play in the shifter thats all. Please Help me
>> I do not want to pay 550 dollars at the junkyard for a new
>> transmission.
>
> It's OLD! I have a lot of play in my stick shift too and... oh, wait,
> you mean the truck don't you....
>
> I really doubt it'll hurt anything. Bushings wear, etc. You can
> browse used car lots and see if it's typical of a Toyota with similar
> miles but I really doubt it's anything that is dangerous as long as it
> shifts properly.

If this is the 5 speed, you can get a rebuild kit for a couple hundred
dollars. Your transmission type should be on the vehicle ident tag on
your firewall.

Depending on where you live, there are a few japanese transmission
rebuild wholesalers around los angeles. You might also check craigs
list, etc. as the transmissions go for about a hundred on up depending
on the market. Might want to check these folks out... they appear to
be geek level toyota folks:
http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/transmission/1a.htm

Plus some of your local 4 wheel parts places might have one that doesnt
show up on their web site.

As for not supposed to be on the road, you might want to ask them what
the heck they are expecting. It just comes to a halt, locks, up,
drops oil, doesnt shift, etc. it isnt gonna explode. By any chance is
that a transmission specialty [ripoff] chain?

 

XS11E wrote:
> Jamie Mello <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> I have a 1983 toyta 4X4 pickup. And there is a lot of play in my
>> stick shifter. (it was like that when I bought it) And The shop
>> says I need a new transmission now. And they said to me that it
>> should not be on the road even. And that does not sound right to
>> me. The transmission works fine it shifts in all the gears fine.
>> It just has a lot of play in the shifter thats all. Please Help me
>> I do not want to pay 550 dollars at the junkyard for a new
>> transmission.
>
> It's OLD! I have a lot of play in my stick shift too and... oh, wait,
> you mean the truck don't you....
>
> I really doubt it'll hurt anything. Bushings wear, etc. You can
> browse used car lots and see if it's typical of a Toyota with similar
> miles but I really doubt it's anything that is dangerous as long as it
> shifts properly.

If this is the 5 speed, you can get a rebuild kit for a couple hundred
dollars. Your transmission type should be on the vehicle ident tag on
your firewall.

Depending on where you live, there are a few japanese transmission
rebuild wholesalers around los angeles. You might also check craigs
list, etc. as the transmissions go for about a hundred on up depending
on the market. Might want to check these folks out... they appear to
be geek level toyota folks:
http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/transmission/1a.htm

Plus some of your local 4 wheel parts places might have one that doesnt
show up on their web site.

As for not supposed to be on the road, you might want to ask them what
the heck they are expecting. It just comes to a halt, locks, up,
drops oil, doesnt shift, etc. it isnt gonna explode. By any chance is
that a transmission specialty [ripoff] chain?

 

Jeff DeWitt wrote:

> Earle Horton wrote:
>> "Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:baafa536-2898-450d-b5a9-7aafc08c5ef0@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>Thanks for all the input. And what type of bushing should I say I need
>>>when I go in to buy it on friday? Thanks Jamie
>>
>>
>> Jamie,
>>
>> You have to look at the parts to see exactly which ones are worn. As I
>> remember in these types of shifters there is a ball with grooves in it on
>> the lower part of the stick shift, that fits in a socket on top of the
>> transmission. It would have pins to keep it in alignment and a cap and
>> spring to hold it in place. Any of these parts could be worn. The lower
>> end of the shifter, where it fits into the shift rails, could be worn
>> also. You just don't know until you take the shifter apart to see what is
>> what, unless this is a common problem and you run into an experienced
>> Toyota
>> mechanic. I remember one case a long time ago, on a Corolla or
>> something, where I had to build up the ball by welding it, cut new
>> grooves in it, and
>> replace the pins. We didn't spend more than $5.00 for parts but the
>> labor
>> was considerable. Maybe you will get lucky and the spring is just
>> broken.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>>
>>
>>
> I don't know anything about Toyotas (I think I drove one once), but when
> Jamie was first asking I looked up shifter parts for it and the only
> thing listed was a bushing, and the Toyota guys have also mentioned that
> as a possibility. Not sure just what that bushing is but it seems like
> a good place to start.

Probably something like the one on the AX shifter - cap that fits on the end
of the rod and rides in the rail slots. I've also seen plastic cups around
the ball on the shifter that would wear out.

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Jeff DeWitt wrote:

> Earle Horton wrote:
>> "Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:baafa536-2898-450d-b5a9-7aafc08c5ef0@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>Thanks for all the input. And what type of bushing should I say I need
>>>when I go in to buy it on friday? Thanks Jamie
>>
>>
>> Jamie,
>>
>> You have to look at the parts to see exactly which ones are worn. As I
>> remember in these types of shifters there is a ball with grooves in it on
>> the lower part of the stick shift, that fits in a socket on top of the
>> transmission. It would have pins to keep it in alignment and a cap and
>> spring to hold it in place. Any of these parts could be worn. The lower
>> end of the shifter, where it fits into the shift rails, could be worn
>> also. You just don't know until you take the shifter apart to see what is
>> what, unless this is a common problem and you run into an experienced
>> Toyota
>> mechanic. I remember one case a long time ago, on a Corolla or
>> something, where I had to build up the ball by welding it, cut new
>> grooves in it, and
>> replace the pins. We didn't spend more than $5.00 for parts but the
>> labor
>> was considerable. Maybe you will get lucky and the spring is just
>> broken.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>>
>>
>>
> I don't know anything about Toyotas (I think I drove one once), but when
> Jamie was first asking I looked up shifter parts for it and the only
> thing listed was a bushing, and the Toyota guys have also mentioned that
> as a possibility. Not sure just what that bushing is but it seems like
> a good place to start.

Probably something like the one on the AX shifter - cap that fits on the end
of the rod and rides in the rail slots. I've also seen plastic cups around
the ball on the shifter that would wear out.

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Will Honea wrote:
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>"Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>news:baafa536-2898-450d-b5a9-7aafc08c5ef0@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks for all the input. And what type of bushing should I say I need
>>>>when I go in to buy it on friday? Thanks Jamie
>>>
>>>
>>>Jamie,
>>>
>>>You have to look at the parts to see exactly which ones are worn. As I
>>>remember in these types of shifters there is a ball with grooves in it on
>>>the lower part of the stick shift, that fits in a socket on top of the
>>>transmission. It would have pins to keep it in alignment and a cap and
>>>spring to hold it in place. Any of these parts could be worn. The lower
>>>end of the shifter, where it fits into the shift rails, could be worn
>>>also. You just don't know until you take the shifter apart to see what is
>>>what, unless this is a common problem and you run into an experienced
>>>Toyota
>>>mechanic. I remember one case a long time ago, on a Corolla or
>>>something, where I had to build up the ball by welding it, cut new
>>>grooves in it, and
>>>replace the pins. We didn't spend more than $5.00 for parts but the
>>>labor
>>>was considerable. Maybe you will get lucky and the spring is just
>>>broken.
>>>
>>>Good luck,
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I don't know anything about Toyotas (I think I drove one once), but when
>>Jamie was first asking I looked up shifter parts for it and the only
>>thing listed was a bushing, and the Toyota guys have also mentioned that
>>as a possibility. Not sure just what that bushing is but it seems like
>>a good place to start.
>
>
> Probably something like the one on the AX shifter - cap that fits on the end
> of the rod and rides in the rail slots. I've also seen plastic cups around
> the ball on the shifter that would wear out.
>

That makes sense, and it sure sounds like things would get sloppy if it
were worn out.

Jeff DeWitt

 

Will Honea wrote:
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
>
>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>"Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>news:baafa536-2898-450d-b5a9-7aafc08c5ef0@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks for all the input. And what type of bushing should I say I need
>>>>when I go in to buy it on friday? Thanks Jamie
>>>
>>>
>>>Jamie,
>>>
>>>You have to look at the parts to see exactly which ones are worn. As I
>>>remember in these types of shifters there is a ball with grooves in it on
>>>the lower part of the stick shift, that fits in a socket on top of the
>>>transmission. It would have pins to keep it in alignment and a cap and
>>>spring to hold it in place. Any of these parts could be worn. The lower
>>>end of the shifter, where it fits into the shift rails, could be worn
>>>also. You just don't know until you take the shifter apart to see what is
>>>what, unless this is a common problem and you run into an experienced
>>>Toyota
>>>mechanic. I remember one case a long time ago, on a Corolla or
>>>something, where I had to build up the ball by welding it, cut new
>>>grooves in it, and
>>>replace the pins. We didn't spend more than $5.00 for parts but the
>>>labor
>>>was considerable. Maybe you will get lucky and the spring is just
>>>broken.
>>>
>>>Good luck,
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I don't know anything about Toyotas (I think I drove one once), but when
>>Jamie was first asking I looked up shifter parts for it and the only
>>thing listed was a bushing, and the Toyota guys have also mentioned that
>>as a possibility. Not sure just what that bushing is but it seems like
>>a good place to start.
>
>
> Probably something like the one on the AX shifter - cap that fits on the end
> of the rod and rides in the rail slots. I've also seen plastic cups around
> the ball on the shifter that would wear out.
>

That makes sense, and it sure sounds like things would get sloppy if it
were worn out.

Jeff DeWitt

 

"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:AcednRNJhtde59ranZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> XS11E wrote:
>> Jamie Mello <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a 1983 toyta 4X4 pickup. And there is a lot of play in my
>>> stick shifter. (it was like that when I bought it) And The shop
>>> says I need a new transmission now. And they said to me that it
>>> should not be on the road even. And that does not sound right to
>>> me. The transmission works fine it shifts in all the gears fine.
>>> It just has a lot of play in the shifter thats all. Please Help me
>>> I do not want to pay 550 dollars at the junkyard for a new
>>> transmission.
>>
>> It's OLD! I have a lot of play in my stick shift too and... oh, wait,
>> you mean the truck don't you.... I really doubt it'll hurt anything.
>> Bushings wear, etc. You can browse used car lots and see if it's typical
>> of a Toyota with similar miles but I really doubt it's anything that is
>> dangerous as long as it shifts properly.
>
> If this is the 5 speed, you can get a rebuild kit for a couple hundred
> dollars. Your transmission type should be on the vehicle ident tag on
> your firewall.
>
> Depending on where you live, there are a few japanese transmission rebuild
> wholesalers around los angeles. You might also check craigs list, etc. as
> the transmissions go for about a hundred on up depending on the market.
> Might want to check these folks out... they appear to be geek level toyota
> folks: http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/transmission/1a.htm
>
> Plus some of your local 4 wheel parts places might have one that doesnt
> show up on their web site.
>
> As for not supposed to be on the road, you might want to ask them what the
> heck they are expecting. It just comes to a halt, locks, up, drops oil,
> doesnt shift, etc. it isnt gonna explode. By any chance is that a
> transmission specialty [ripoff] chain?
>
Transmission chains are good at installing rebuild kits. A rebuild kit
won't include a standard transmission shifter bushing, ball, pins or
whatever it is that's bad. Like I said, take it apart, don't drop stuff
inside the transmission, take digital pictures, then go to the dealer parts
department and find out what parts they will sell you. Maybe you can find a
manual online or at Autozone. Sometimes Haynes, Chilton's or Motors Manuals
are good. There are Jeep sites with the type of exploded diagrams that you
need; there may be for Toyota. The Jeep AX5 and AX15 are after all Japanese
transmissions. The parts might even be the same.

Cheers,

Earle



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