Re: Loss of coolant....can I damage water pump with engine startup???
 

Doesn't anyone use a tow strap anymore? If you can keep water in it, your
ok. If you can run it without a cap,I would check water about every 1/2 mile
or so. Overheating the cyls and head will cost a lot more than a tow.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: Loss of coolant....can I damage water pump with engine startup???
 

I woudn't risk it. Tow it. Could damage or blow the engine. Or if you or a
friend has a big truck you can rent a car dolly from uhaul or a place like
it.


"TJM" <tjm@nospam> wrote in message
news:mrydnZm44KDmaWPdRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> The stock radiator on my '95 Grand Cherokee Limited (4.0L 6-cyl.) is
leaking
> pretty bad for last couple days. I crawled under the front of the vehicle
and
> cant see an obvious pinhole or cracked seam due to the fan shroud blocking
the
> view, but the entire bottom seal on the radiator is soaked with green
fluid, and
> its leaking all over the parking lot. I poured in half gal. of coolant
last
> night to see what would happen, and its been leaking green juice all night
& day
> onto aforementioned parking lot.
>
> I think I might be able to drive the vehicle a couple miles to the local
> dealership or radiator shop to get it looked at.....but am I risking water
pump
> damage if there is no coolant in the radiator? Do water pumps need fluid
to
> operate.....or can they run dry? I'd hate to add a costly water pump
> replacement on top of a radiator fix.
>
> Thanks for the help.....
>
>

Re: Loss of coolant....can I damage water pump with engine startup???
 

I woudn't risk it. Tow it. Could damage or blow the engine. Or if you or a
friend has a big truck you can rent a car dolly from uhaul or a place like
it.


"TJM" <tjm@nospam> wrote in message
news:mrydnZm44KDmaWPdRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> The stock radiator on my '95 Grand Cherokee Limited (4.0L 6-cyl.) is
leaking
> pretty bad for last couple days. I crawled under the front of the vehicle
and
> cant see an obvious pinhole or cracked seam due to the fan shroud blocking
the
> view, but the entire bottom seal on the radiator is soaked with green
fluid, and
> its leaking all over the parking lot. I poured in half gal. of coolant
last
> night to see what would happen, and its been leaking green juice all night
& day
> onto aforementioned parking lot.
>
> I think I might be able to drive the vehicle a couple miles to the local
> dealership or radiator shop to get it looked at.....but am I risking water
pump
> damage if there is no coolant in the radiator? Do water pumps need fluid
to
> operate.....or can they run dry? I'd hate to add a costly water pump
> replacement on top of a radiator fix.
>
> Thanks for the help.....
>
>

Re: Loss of coolant....can I damage water pump with engine startup???
 

I woudn't risk it. Tow it. Could damage or blow the engine. Or if you or a
friend has a big truck you can rent a car dolly from uhaul or a place like
it.


"TJM" <tjm@nospam> wrote in message
news:mrydnZm44KDmaWPdRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> The stock radiator on my '95 Grand Cherokee Limited (4.0L 6-cyl.) is
leaking
> pretty bad for last couple days. I crawled under the front of the vehicle
and
> cant see an obvious pinhole or cracked seam due to the fan shroud blocking
the
> view, but the entire bottom seal on the radiator is soaked with green
fluid, and
> its leaking all over the parking lot. I poured in half gal. of coolant
last
> night to see what would happen, and its been leaking green juice all night
& day
> onto aforementioned parking lot.
>
> I think I might be able to drive the vehicle a couple miles to the local
> dealership or radiator shop to get it looked at.....but am I risking water
pump
> damage if there is no coolant in the radiator? Do water pumps need fluid
to
> operate.....or can they run dry? I'd hate to add a costly water pump
> replacement on top of a radiator fix.
>
> Thanks for the help.....
>
>

Re: Loss of coolant....can I damage water pump with engine startup???
 

I woudn't risk it. Tow it. Could damage or blow the engine. Or if you or a
friend has a big truck you can rent a car dolly from uhaul or a place like
it.


"TJM" <tjm@nospam> wrote in message
news:mrydnZm44KDmaWPdRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> The stock radiator on my '95 Grand Cherokee Limited (4.0L 6-cyl.) is
leaking
> pretty bad for last couple days. I crawled under the front of the vehicle
and
> cant see an obvious pinhole or cracked seam due to the fan shroud blocking
the
> view, but the entire bottom seal on the radiator is soaked with green
fluid, and
> its leaking all over the parking lot. I poured in half gal. of coolant
last
> night to see what would happen, and its been leaking green juice all night
& day
> onto aforementioned parking lot.
>
> I think I might be able to drive the vehicle a couple miles to the local
> dealership or radiator shop to get it looked at.....but am I risking water
pump
> damage if there is no coolant in the radiator? Do water pumps need fluid
to
> operate.....or can they run dry? I'd hate to add a costly water pump
> replacement on top of a radiator fix.
>
> Thanks for the help.....
>
>

Re: Loss of coolant....can I damage water pump with engine startup???
 

Screw the 50/50 mix and just put in some water. You aren't going far and you
need water in the system more than anything, and way more than you need
nothing.

Admittedly water is not the best fluid to use, but the issue of water or
coolant is a long term issue, not an issue from your house to the shop. When
I was a kid, we only used water and therer was no such thing as
antifreeze/coolant. Certainly at this time of year, you don't need
antifreeze so water should do the trick just fine.



"TJM" <tjm@nospam> wrote in message
news:p4-dnXToaIyUZGPdRVn-og@comcast.com...
> True....I imagine on running dry on a 85F day would be a bad idea!
>
> I might just buy a couple more gallons of coolant and brew up a 50/50
water
> mix....then top-up every mile until I get to the repair shop.
>
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:5ECLc.5238$tj1.51756274@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > I think they probably could run dry, but by the time you get to that
stage I
> > think
> > you would be in deep deep doodah with no water circulating and your
heads
> > warping.
> > If you only have 2 miles to go and you think you can make it, the best
bet
> > is to boil up
> > a lot of water and take it with you; stopping to top it up. *Don't*
put
> > cold water
> > in a hot engine.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "TJM" <tjm@nospam> wrote in message
> > news:mrydnZm44KDmaWPdRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> > > The stock radiator on my '95 Grand Cherokee Limited (4.0L 6-cyl.) is
> > leaking
> > > pretty bad for last couple days. I crawled under the front of the
vehicle
> > and
> > > cant see an obvious pinhole or cracked seam due to the fan shroud
blocking
> > the
> > > view, but the entire bottom seal on the radiator is soaked with green
> > fluid, and
> > > its leaking all over the parking lot. I poured in half gal. of
coolant
> > last
> > > night to see what would happen, and its been leaking green juice all
night
> > & day
> > > onto aforementioned parking lot.
> > >
> > > I think I might be able to drive the vehicle a couple miles to the
local
> > > dealership or radiator shop to get it looked at.....but am I risking
water
> > pump
> > > damage if there is no coolant in the radiator? Do water pumps need
fluid
> > to
> > > operate.....or can they run dry? I'd hate to add a costly water pump
> > > replacement on top of a radiator fix.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the help.....
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Loss of coolant....can I damage water pump with engine startup???
 

Screw the 50/50 mix and just put in some water. You aren't going far and you
need water in the system more than anything, and way more than you need
nothing.

Admittedly water is not the best fluid to use, but the issue of water or
coolant is a long term issue, not an issue from your house to the shop. When
I was a kid, we only used water and therer was no such thing as
antifreeze/coolant. Certainly at this time of year, you don't need
antifreeze so water should do the trick just fine.



"TJM" <tjm@nospam> wrote in message
news:p4-dnXToaIyUZGPdRVn-og@comcast.com...
> True....I imagine on running dry on a 85F day would be a bad idea!
>
> I might just buy a couple more gallons of coolant and brew up a 50/50
water
> mix....then top-up every mile until I get to the repair shop.
>
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:5ECLc.5238$tj1.51756274@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > I think they probably could run dry, but by the time you get to that
stage I
> > think
> > you would be in deep deep doodah with no water circulating and your
heads
> > warping.
> > If you only have 2 miles to go and you think you can make it, the best
bet
> > is to boil up
> > a lot of water and take it with you; stopping to top it up. *Don't*
put
> > cold water
> > in a hot engine.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "TJM" <tjm@nospam> wrote in message
> > news:mrydnZm44KDmaWPdRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> > > The stock radiator on my '95 Grand Cherokee Limited (4.0L 6-cyl.) is
> > leaking
> > > pretty bad for last couple days. I crawled under the front of the
vehicle
> > and
> > > cant see an obvious pinhole or cracked seam due to the fan shroud
blocking
> > the
> > > view, but the entire bottom seal on the radiator is soaked with green
> > fluid, and
> > > its leaking all over the parking lot. I poured in half gal. of
coolant
> > last
> > > night to see what would happen, and its been leaking green juice all
night
> > & day
> > > onto aforementioned parking lot.
> > >
> > > I think I might be able to drive the vehicle a couple miles to the
local
> > > dealership or radiator shop to get it looked at.....but am I risking
water
> > pump
> > > damage if there is no coolant in the radiator? Do water pumps need
fluid
> > to
> > > operate.....or can they run dry? I'd hate to add a costly water pump
> > > replacement on top of a radiator fix.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the help.....
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Loss of coolant....can I damage water pump with engine startup???
 

Screw the 50/50 mix and just put in some water. You aren't going far and you
need water in the system more than anything, and way more than you need
nothing.

Admittedly water is not the best fluid to use, but the issue of water or
coolant is a long term issue, not an issue from your house to the shop. When
I was a kid, we only used water and therer was no such thing as
antifreeze/coolant. Certainly at this time of year, you don't need
antifreeze so water should do the trick just fine.



"TJM" <tjm@nospam> wrote in message
news:p4-dnXToaIyUZGPdRVn-og@comcast.com...
> True....I imagine on running dry on a 85F day would be a bad idea!
>
> I might just buy a couple more gallons of coolant and brew up a 50/50
water
> mix....then top-up every mile until I get to the repair shop.
>
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:5ECLc.5238$tj1.51756274@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > I think they probably could run dry, but by the time you get to that
stage I
> > think
> > you would be in deep deep doodah with no water circulating and your
heads
> > warping.
> > If you only have 2 miles to go and you think you can make it, the best
bet
> > is to boil up
> > a lot of water and take it with you; stopping to top it up. *Don't*
put
> > cold water
> > in a hot engine.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "TJM" <tjm@nospam> wrote in message
> > news:mrydnZm44KDmaWPdRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> > > The stock radiator on my '95 Grand Cherokee Limited (4.0L 6-cyl.) is
> > leaking
> > > pretty bad for last couple days. I crawled under the front of the
vehicle
> > and
> > > cant see an obvious pinhole or cracked seam due to the fan shroud
blocking
> > the
> > > view, but the entire bottom seal on the radiator is soaked with green
> > fluid, and
> > > its leaking all over the parking lot. I poured in half gal. of
coolant
> > last
> > > night to see what would happen, and its been leaking green juice all
night
> > & day
> > > onto aforementioned parking lot.
> > >
> > > I think I might be able to drive the vehicle a couple miles to the
local
> > > dealership or radiator shop to get it looked at.....but am I risking
water
> > pump
> > > damage if there is no coolant in the radiator? Do water pumps need
fluid
> > to
> > > operate.....or can they run dry? I'd hate to add a costly water pump
> > > replacement on top of a radiator fix.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the help.....
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Loss of coolant....can I damage water pump with engine startup???
 

Screw the 50/50 mix and just put in some water. You aren't going far and you
need water in the system more than anything, and way more than you need
nothing.

Admittedly water is not the best fluid to use, but the issue of water or
coolant is a long term issue, not an issue from your house to the shop. When
I was a kid, we only used water and therer was no such thing as
antifreeze/coolant. Certainly at this time of year, you don't need
antifreeze so water should do the trick just fine.



"TJM" <tjm@nospam> wrote in message
news:p4-dnXToaIyUZGPdRVn-og@comcast.com...
> True....I imagine on running dry on a 85F day would be a bad idea!
>
> I might just buy a couple more gallons of coolant and brew up a 50/50
water
> mix....then top-up every mile until I get to the repair shop.
>
>
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:5ECLc.5238$tj1.51756274@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > I think they probably could run dry, but by the time you get to that
stage I
> > think
> > you would be in deep deep doodah with no water circulating and your
heads
> > warping.
> > If you only have 2 miles to go and you think you can make it, the best
bet
> > is to boil up
> > a lot of water and take it with you; stopping to top it up. *Don't*
put
> > cold water
> > in a hot engine.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "TJM" <tjm@nospam> wrote in message
> > news:mrydnZm44KDmaWPdRVn-ig@comcast.com...
> > > The stock radiator on my '95 Grand Cherokee Limited (4.0L 6-cyl.) is
> > leaking
> > > pretty bad for last couple days. I crawled under the front of the
vehicle
> > and
> > > cant see an obvious pinhole or cracked seam due to the fan shroud
blocking
> > the
> > > view, but the entire bottom seal on the radiator is soaked with green
> > fluid, and
> > > its leaking all over the parking lot. I poured in half gal. of
coolant
> > last
> > > night to see what would happen, and its been leaking green juice all
night
> > & day
> > > onto aforementioned parking lot.
> > >
> > > I think I might be able to drive the vehicle a couple miles to the
local
> > > dealership or radiator shop to get it looked at.....but am I risking
water
> > pump
> > > damage if there is no coolant in the radiator? Do water pumps need
fluid
> > to
> > > operate.....or can they run dry? I'd hate to add a costly water pump
> > > replacement on top of a radiator fix.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the help.....
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Loss of coolant....can I damage water pump with engine startup???
 

> When
> I was a kid, we only used water and therer was no such thing as
> antifreeze/coolant.

When i was a kid we didn't have all this fancy food. All we had was dirt,
and we were thankfull for it.
We didn't have air either, we had to hold out breath all the time.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California