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RoyJ 07-15-2006 01:49 PM

Re: locking front axle on a TJ
 
No, the lockright will lock the two axle half shafts together, give you
a nasty case of understeer. You have the same issues with any locker or
limited slip on the rear (referred to as the 'low side of the road
finder') but on the front it automatically makes one wheel slip when you
try to turn.

It actually works slightly BETTER in 4wd because the 4wd tends to 'pull'
the front over in the direction you want to go.

Jerry Bransford wrote:
> In 2wd, it would be perfectly fine. Only if he were in 4wd would the
> front locker be so firmly locked that it would cause steering problems
> on snow or ice.
>
> Jerry
>
> RoyJ wrote:
>
>> NO!
>>
>> sstonge11@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I would like to know if i put in a lockright unit in a dana 30 front
>>> end off my 2000 tj if it would be drivebale on the road & in snow
>>> thanks !
>>>

>


RoyJ 07-15-2006 01:49 PM

Re: locking front axle on a TJ
 
No, the lockright will lock the two axle half shafts together, give you
a nasty case of understeer. You have the same issues with any locker or
limited slip on the rear (referred to as the 'low side of the road
finder') but on the front it automatically makes one wheel slip when you
try to turn.

It actually works slightly BETTER in 4wd because the 4wd tends to 'pull'
the front over in the direction you want to go.

Jerry Bransford wrote:
> In 2wd, it would be perfectly fine. Only if he were in 4wd would the
> front locker be so firmly locked that it would cause steering problems
> on snow or ice.
>
> Jerry
>
> RoyJ wrote:
>
>> NO!
>>
>> sstonge11@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I would like to know if i put in a lockright unit in a dana 30 front
>>> end off my 2000 tj if it would be drivebale on the road & in snow
>>> thanks !
>>>

>


RoyJ 07-15-2006 01:49 PM

Re: locking front axle on a TJ
 
No, the lockright will lock the two axle half shafts together, give you
a nasty case of understeer. You have the same issues with any locker or
limited slip on the rear (referred to as the 'low side of the road
finder') but on the front it automatically makes one wheel slip when you
try to turn.

It actually works slightly BETTER in 4wd because the 4wd tends to 'pull'
the front over in the direction you want to go.

Jerry Bransford wrote:
> In 2wd, it would be perfectly fine. Only if he were in 4wd would the
> front locker be so firmly locked that it would cause steering problems
> on snow or ice.
>
> Jerry
>
> RoyJ wrote:
>
>> NO!
>>
>> sstonge11@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I would like to know if i put in a lockright unit in a dana 30 front
>>> end off my 2000 tj if it would be drivebale on the road & in snow
>>> thanks !
>>>

>


Jerry Bransford 07-16-2006 01:17 AM

Re: locking front axle on a TJ
 
Do you have one up front as I do?

RoyJ wrote:
> No, the lockright will lock the two axle half shafts together, give you
> a nasty case of understeer. You have the same issues with any locker or
> limited slip on the rear (referred to as the 'low side of the road
> finder') but on the front it automatically makes one wheel slip when you
> try to turn.
>
> It actually works slightly BETTER in 4wd because the 4wd tends to 'pull'
> the front over in the direction you want to go.
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>> In 2wd, it would be perfectly fine. Only if he were in 4wd would the
>> front locker be so firmly locked that it would cause steering problems
>> on snow or ice.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> RoyJ wrote:
>>
>>> NO!
>>>
>>> sstonge11@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would like to know if i put in a lockright unit in a dana 30 front
>>>> end off my 2000 tj if it would be drivebale on the road & in snow
>>>> thanks !
>>>>

>>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 07-16-2006 01:17 AM

Re: locking front axle on a TJ
 
Do you have one up front as I do?

RoyJ wrote:
> No, the lockright will lock the two axle half shafts together, give you
> a nasty case of understeer. You have the same issues with any locker or
> limited slip on the rear (referred to as the 'low side of the road
> finder') but on the front it automatically makes one wheel slip when you
> try to turn.
>
> It actually works slightly BETTER in 4wd because the 4wd tends to 'pull'
> the front over in the direction you want to go.
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>> In 2wd, it would be perfectly fine. Only if he were in 4wd would the
>> front locker be so firmly locked that it would cause steering problems
>> on snow or ice.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> RoyJ wrote:
>>
>>> NO!
>>>
>>> sstonge11@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would like to know if i put in a lockright unit in a dana 30 front
>>>> end off my 2000 tj if it would be drivebale on the road & in snow
>>>> thanks !
>>>>

>>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 07-16-2006 01:17 AM

Re: locking front axle on a TJ
 
Do you have one up front as I do?

RoyJ wrote:
> No, the lockright will lock the two axle half shafts together, give you
> a nasty case of understeer. You have the same issues with any locker or
> limited slip on the rear (referred to as the 'low side of the road
> finder') but on the front it automatically makes one wheel slip when you
> try to turn.
>
> It actually works slightly BETTER in 4wd because the 4wd tends to 'pull'
> the front over in the direction you want to go.
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>> In 2wd, it would be perfectly fine. Only if he were in 4wd would the
>> front locker be so firmly locked that it would cause steering problems
>> on snow or ice.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> RoyJ wrote:
>>
>>> NO!
>>>
>>> sstonge11@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would like to know if i put in a lockright unit in a dana 30 front
>>>> end off my 2000 tj if it would be drivebale on the road & in snow
>>>> thanks !
>>>>

>>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

RoyJ 07-16-2006 10:54 AM

Re: locking front axle on a TJ
 
No, but I have a YJ with axle disconnect so it wouldn't make any
difference. If I put a locker in front I will leave the disconnect in
place. Bogs in the summer and ice in the winter does not put a lot of
torque on the axle.

But I also run on ice and snow for 4 to 5 months per year. What works
well on dirt/rocks/sand does not necessarily work on slick packed snow.
Picture needing 4wd to get moving in a level and plowed parking lot.
Then you need both front wheels rotating to get enough grip to turn. A
locker/limited slip in the rear magnifies the issue.

Jerry Bransford wrote:

> Do you have one up front as I do?
>
> RoyJ wrote:
>
>> No, the lockright will lock the two axle half shafts together, give
>> you a nasty case of understeer. You have the same issues with any
>> locker or limited slip on the rear (referred to as the 'low side of
>> the road finder') but on the front it automatically makes one wheel
>> slip when you try to turn.
>>
>> It actually works slightly BETTER in 4wd because the 4wd tends to
>> 'pull' the front over in the direction you want to go.
>>
>> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>
>>> In 2wd, it would be perfectly fine. Only if he were in 4wd would the
>>> front locker be so firmly locked that it would cause steering
>>> problems on snow or ice.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> RoyJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> NO!
>>>>
>>>> sstonge11@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would like to know if i put in a lockright unit in a dana 30 front
>>>>> end off my 2000 tj if it would be drivebale on the road & in snow
>>>>> thanks !
>>>>>
>>>

>


RoyJ 07-16-2006 10:54 AM

Re: locking front axle on a TJ
 
No, but I have a YJ with axle disconnect so it wouldn't make any
difference. If I put a locker in front I will leave the disconnect in
place. Bogs in the summer and ice in the winter does not put a lot of
torque on the axle.

But I also run on ice and snow for 4 to 5 months per year. What works
well on dirt/rocks/sand does not necessarily work on slick packed snow.
Picture needing 4wd to get moving in a level and plowed parking lot.
Then you need both front wheels rotating to get enough grip to turn. A
locker/limited slip in the rear magnifies the issue.

Jerry Bransford wrote:

> Do you have one up front as I do?
>
> RoyJ wrote:
>
>> No, the lockright will lock the two axle half shafts together, give
>> you a nasty case of understeer. You have the same issues with any
>> locker or limited slip on the rear (referred to as the 'low side of
>> the road finder') but on the front it automatically makes one wheel
>> slip when you try to turn.
>>
>> It actually works slightly BETTER in 4wd because the 4wd tends to
>> 'pull' the front over in the direction you want to go.
>>
>> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>
>>> In 2wd, it would be perfectly fine. Only if he were in 4wd would the
>>> front locker be so firmly locked that it would cause steering
>>> problems on snow or ice.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> RoyJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> NO!
>>>>
>>>> sstonge11@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would like to know if i put in a lockright unit in a dana 30 front
>>>>> end off my 2000 tj if it would be drivebale on the road & in snow
>>>>> thanks !
>>>>>
>>>

>


RoyJ 07-16-2006 10:54 AM

Re: locking front axle on a TJ
 
No, but I have a YJ with axle disconnect so it wouldn't make any
difference. If I put a locker in front I will leave the disconnect in
place. Bogs in the summer and ice in the winter does not put a lot of
torque on the axle.

But I also run on ice and snow for 4 to 5 months per year. What works
well on dirt/rocks/sand does not necessarily work on slick packed snow.
Picture needing 4wd to get moving in a level and plowed parking lot.
Then you need both front wheels rotating to get enough grip to turn. A
locker/limited slip in the rear magnifies the issue.

Jerry Bransford wrote:

> Do you have one up front as I do?
>
> RoyJ wrote:
>
>> No, the lockright will lock the two axle half shafts together, give
>> you a nasty case of understeer. You have the same issues with any
>> locker or limited slip on the rear (referred to as the 'low side of
>> the road finder') but on the front it automatically makes one wheel
>> slip when you try to turn.
>>
>> It actually works slightly BETTER in 4wd because the 4wd tends to
>> 'pull' the front over in the direction you want to go.
>>
>> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>
>>> In 2wd, it would be perfectly fine. Only if he were in 4wd would the
>>> front locker be so firmly locked that it would cause steering
>>> problems on snow or ice.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> RoyJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> NO!
>>>>
>>>> sstonge11@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would like to know if i put in a lockright unit in a dana 30 front
>>>>> end off my 2000 tj if it would be drivebale on the road & in snow
>>>>> thanks !
>>>>>
>>>

>


Jerry Bransford 07-16-2006 12:07 PM

Re: locking front axle on a TJ
 
It is well known among those with a TJ that has a true neutral for the
front driveshaft when it is in 2wd that a front locker cannot be felt
when in 2wd. I have one in my front axle and it cannot (!) be felt in
2wd. It drives just fine in snow and ice when in 2wd.

RoyJ wrote:
> No, but I have a YJ with axle disconnect so it wouldn't make any
> difference. If I put a locker in front I will leave the disconnect in
> place. Bogs in the summer and ice in the winter does not put a lot of
> torque on the axle.
>
> But I also run on ice and snow for 4 to 5 months per year. What works
> well on dirt/rocks/sand does not necessarily work on slick packed snow.
> Picture needing 4wd to get moving in a level and plowed parking lot.
> Then you need both front wheels rotating to get enough grip to turn. A
> locker/limited slip in the rear magnifies the issue.
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>> Do you have one up front as I do?
>>
>> RoyJ wrote:
>>
>>> No, the lockright will lock the two axle half shafts together, give
>>> you a nasty case of understeer. You have the same issues with any
>>> locker or limited slip on the rear (referred to as the 'low side of
>>> the road finder') but on the front it automatically makes one wheel
>>> slip when you try to turn.
>>>
>>> It actually works slightly BETTER in 4wd because the 4wd tends to
>>> 'pull' the front over in the direction you want to go.
>>>
>>> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>>
>>>> In 2wd, it would be perfectly fine. Only if he were in 4wd would
>>>> the front locker be so firmly locked that it would cause steering
>>>> problems on snow or ice.
>>>>
>>>> Jerry
>>>>
>>>> RoyJ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> NO!
>>>>>
>>>>> sstonge11@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to know if i put in a lockright unit in a dana 30 front
>>>>>> end off my 2000 tj if it would be drivebale on the road & in snow
>>>>>> thanks !
>>>>>>
>>>>

>>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/


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