Locked in 4W offroad
 

I loaned my jeep (1999 XJ limited) to a friend who drove it to Wallmart
and back (about an hour total). The next time I drove it, she was
"locked" in 4WD, the kind that ain't supposed to be on dry pavement.
The person who dove it swore she never touched the shift lever, and the
Jeep never drove funny. I drove it very slow to a garage. They said the
grease in the hubs was old and sticky, and would not release back into
2WD. They replaced the grease (free) and all is well.

Questions:

1- this jeep does not have locking hubs..it's all done at the TC, so
what is the garage talking about?

2- Is it even remotely possible for this to have happened without the
driver touching the 4WD shift lever?

3- as a side question, the TC also has a 4WD option that is meant for
dry pavement, kind of like AWD. How deos the front end diff know which
setting the shifter is in?

Re: Locked in 4W offroad
 

Wow....

Well you have 'no' grease in your 'hubs' except what is inside the
sealed bearings.

All the 4x? shifting is done in the t-case, your front wheels, axles
diff and driveshaft always turn.

When you go to 'full time' it has a center 'differential' of sorts so
again the front end don't care, it's always spinning along.

The gear shifter could move if you have a snapped off engine or tranny
mount and floor it hard or pop the clutch a few times, you know like the
beginner 'bucking bronco' trip with a clutch. Something has to be broke
to move the shifter that way though.

If the shifter will not come out of 4 high because you have bound up the
drivetrain by driving on the street, you can usually goose it in reverse
to unwind things. Sometimes you even have to spin the tires to let it
loose.

Then the shifter linkage could just need grease too, they can seize
up....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

footballgod214@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> I loaned my jeep (1999 XJ limited) to a friend who drove it to Wallmart
> and back (about an hour total). The next time I drove it, she was
> "locked" in 4WD, the kind that ain't supposed to be on dry pavement.
> The person who dove it swore she never touched the shift lever, and the
> Jeep never drove funny. I drove it very slow to a garage. They said the
> grease in the hubs was old and sticky, and would not release back into
> 2WD. They replaced the grease (free) and all is well.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1- this jeep does not have locking hubs..it's all done at the TC, so
> what is the garage talking about?
>
> 2- Is it even remotely possible for this to have happened without the
> driver touching the 4WD shift lever?
>
> 3- as a side question, the TC also has a 4WD option that is meant for
> dry pavement, kind of like AWD. How deos the front end diff know which
> setting the shifter is in?

Re: Locked in 4W offroad
 

Wow....

Well you have 'no' grease in your 'hubs' except what is inside the
sealed bearings.

All the 4x? shifting is done in the t-case, your front wheels, axles
diff and driveshaft always turn.

When you go to 'full time' it has a center 'differential' of sorts so
again the front end don't care, it's always spinning along.

The gear shifter could move if you have a snapped off engine or tranny
mount and floor it hard or pop the clutch a few times, you know like the
beginner 'bucking bronco' trip with a clutch. Something has to be broke
to move the shifter that way though.

If the shifter will not come out of 4 high because you have bound up the
drivetrain by driving on the street, you can usually goose it in reverse
to unwind things. Sometimes you even have to spin the tires to let it
loose.

Then the shifter linkage could just need grease too, they can seize
up....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

footballgod214@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> I loaned my jeep (1999 XJ limited) to a friend who drove it to Wallmart
> and back (about an hour total). The next time I drove it, she was
> "locked" in 4WD, the kind that ain't supposed to be on dry pavement.
> The person who dove it swore she never touched the shift lever, and the
> Jeep never drove funny. I drove it very slow to a garage. They said the
> grease in the hubs was old and sticky, and would not release back into
> 2WD. They replaced the grease (free) and all is well.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1- this jeep does not have locking hubs..it's all done at the TC, so
> what is the garage talking about?
>
> 2- Is it even remotely possible for this to have happened without the
> driver touching the 4WD shift lever?
>
> 3- as a side question, the TC also has a 4WD option that is meant for
> dry pavement, kind of like AWD. How deos the front end diff know which
> setting the shifter is in?

Re: Locked in 4W offroad
 

Wow....

Well you have 'no' grease in your 'hubs' except what is inside the
sealed bearings.

All the 4x? shifting is done in the t-case, your front wheels, axles
diff and driveshaft always turn.

When you go to 'full time' it has a center 'differential' of sorts so
again the front end don't care, it's always spinning along.

The gear shifter could move if you have a snapped off engine or tranny
mount and floor it hard or pop the clutch a few times, you know like the
beginner 'bucking bronco' trip with a clutch. Something has to be broke
to move the shifter that way though.

If the shifter will not come out of 4 high because you have bound up the
drivetrain by driving on the street, you can usually goose it in reverse
to unwind things. Sometimes you even have to spin the tires to let it
loose.

Then the shifter linkage could just need grease too, they can seize
up....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

footballgod214@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> I loaned my jeep (1999 XJ limited) to a friend who drove it to Wallmart
> and back (about an hour total). The next time I drove it, she was
> "locked" in 4WD, the kind that ain't supposed to be on dry pavement.
> The person who dove it swore she never touched the shift lever, and the
> Jeep never drove funny. I drove it very slow to a garage. They said the
> grease in the hubs was old and sticky, and would not release back into
> 2WD. They replaced the grease (free) and all is well.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1- this jeep does not have locking hubs..it's all done at the TC, so
> what is the garage talking about?
>
> 2- Is it even remotely possible for this to have happened without the
> driver touching the 4WD shift lever?
>
> 3- as a side question, the TC also has a 4WD option that is meant for
> dry pavement, kind of like AWD. How deos the front end diff know which
> setting the shifter is in?

Re: Locked in 4W offroad
 

Wow....

Well you have 'no' grease in your 'hubs' except what is inside the
sealed bearings.

All the 4x? shifting is done in the t-case, your front wheels, axles
diff and driveshaft always turn.

When you go to 'full time' it has a center 'differential' of sorts so
again the front end don't care, it's always spinning along.

The gear shifter could move if you have a snapped off engine or tranny
mount and floor it hard or pop the clutch a few times, you know like the
beginner 'bucking bronco' trip with a clutch. Something has to be broke
to move the shifter that way though.

If the shifter will not come out of 4 high because you have bound up the
drivetrain by driving on the street, you can usually goose it in reverse
to unwind things. Sometimes you even have to spin the tires to let it
loose.

Then the shifter linkage could just need grease too, they can seize
up....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

footballgod214@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> I loaned my jeep (1999 XJ limited) to a friend who drove it to Wallmart
> and back (about an hour total). The next time I drove it, she was
> "locked" in 4WD, the kind that ain't supposed to be on dry pavement.
> The person who dove it swore she never touched the shift lever, and the
> Jeep never drove funny. I drove it very slow to a garage. They said the
> grease in the hubs was old and sticky, and would not release back into
> 2WD. They replaced the grease (free) and all is well.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1- this jeep does not have locking hubs..it's all done at the TC, so
> what is the garage talking about?
>
> 2- Is it even remotely possible for this to have happened without the
> driver touching the 4WD shift lever?
>
> 3- as a side question, the TC also has a 4WD option that is meant for
> dry pavement, kind of like AWD. How deos the front end diff know which
> setting the shifter is in?

Re: Locked in 4W offroad
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4252D3E0.759179D0@sympatico.ca...
> Wow....
>
> Well you have 'no' grease in your 'hubs' except what is inside the
> sealed bearings.
>
Meaning the OP just got fleeced by the garage.

Re: Locked in 4W offroad
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4252D3E0.759179D0@sympatico.ca...
> Wow....
>
> Well you have 'no' grease in your 'hubs' except what is inside the
> sealed bearings.
>
Meaning the OP just got fleeced by the garage.

Re: Locked in 4W offroad
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4252D3E0.759179D0@sympatico.ca...
> Wow....
>
> Well you have 'no' grease in your 'hubs' except what is inside the
> sealed bearings.
>
Meaning the OP just got fleeced by the garage.

Re: Locked in 4W offroad
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4252D3E0.759179D0@sympatico.ca...
> Wow....
>
> Well you have 'no' grease in your 'hubs' except what is inside the
> sealed bearings.
>
Meaning the OP just got fleeced by the garage.

Re: Locked in 4W offroad
 

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4252D3E0.759179D0@sympatico.ca...
> > Wow....
> >
> > Well you have 'no' grease in your 'hubs' except what is inside the
> > sealed bearings.
> >
> Meaning the OP just got fleeced by the garage.

Custom automatic hubs? LOL!

Mike