Lift questions
 

Hi All,

The time has come for me to upgrade my set-up. I have decided to go with
Old Man Emu Heavy Duty suspension kit primarily for two reasons: (1) It is
locally available with 2 year warranty (2) I have a hard top and plan on
putting beefier bumpers and a winch.

The kit comes with following parts:

Heavy Load Coils Front (OME933)
Heavy Load Coils Rear (OME942)
Heavy Load Shocks Front (N66)
Heavy Load Shocks Rear (N67)
10mm Trim spacers Front (OMEJGF10)
Bumpstop spacer kit Rear (FK16)
Transmission packer kit (JWGK01)
Panhard Rod Bracket Rear (FKWTJ02)

I am looking at following additional parts:
Bumpstop spacer kit Front (FK16)
Brake line extensions Front
Brake line extension Rear
JKS Sway Bar Quick Disconnect Front (2.5-6" lift version)
Skyjacker Sway Bar extension Rear (2-4" lift)
Currie Lower Rear Shock Extensions to avoid hitting

Can some kind sole provide me the part numbers for YJ OEM brake lines,
which I understand are about 3" longer than stock TJ ones and should be
easy to source from the dealer.

What about axle breathers front and rear? Whats the easiest way to extend
them to compensate for extra length required with lift. Would adjustable
cam bolts in the rear help me having rear end adjusted for no driveline
vibes?

I had looked at a lot of other manufacturers as well, but getting the kits
shipped from US to New Zealand is expensive.

Thanks all for your input.
TW
--
01 TJ Renegade 4.0L Auto
D30/44, 265/75R16 BFG Muds

Re: Lift questions
 

Great lift!

TW wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> The time has come for me to upgrade my set-up. I have decided to go with
> Old Man Emu Heavy Duty suspension kit primarily for two reasons: (1) It is
> locally available with 2 year warranty (2) I have a hard top and plan on
> putting beefier bumpers and a winch.
SNIP
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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__________________________________________________ _________

Re: Lift questions
 

Great lift!

TW wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> The time has come for me to upgrade my set-up. I have decided to go with
> Old Man Emu Heavy Duty suspension kit primarily for two reasons: (1) It is
> locally available with 2 year warranty (2) I have a hard top and plan on
> putting beefier bumpers and a winch.
SNIP
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

Re: Lift questions
 

Great lift!

TW wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> The time has come for me to upgrade my set-up. I have decided to go with
> Old Man Emu Heavy Duty suspension kit primarily for two reasons: (1) It is
> locally available with 2 year warranty (2) I have a hard top and plan on
> putting beefier bumpers and a winch.
SNIP
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

Re: Lift questions
 

"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:cltb7o$3uo$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> Can some kind sole provide me the part numbers for YJ OEM brake lines,
> which I understand are about 3" longer than stock TJ ones and should be
> easy to source from the dealer.
>
That would be a kind soul, not sole.

If you wanted stock YJ brake lines, you can get them over the counter from
your local parts store. They will be listed in the parts book.



> What about axle breathers front and rear? Whats the easiest way to extend
> them to compensate for extra length required with lift.

The axle breathers are either 3/16 or 5/16 hose. Buy several feet of bulk
hose and cut it to fit.



Would adjustable
> cam bolts in the rear help me having rear end adjusted for no driveline
> vibes?
>

If you dropped the tcase you could take care of the vibes. You want the
pinion angle and the tcase to be parallel. So, if the pinion angle is at 7°,
for example, then you also want the tcase to be angled to 7° so the
centerline of the output shaft and the pinion are parallel. (I pulled that
number out of the air, I have no idea what the pinion angle is going to be,
but my instinct says it will be closer to about 3°.)

I don't recall how much lift you plan on using, but they make a drop kit for
the tcase that lowers the skid plate the correct amount for the lift you are
using.




> I had looked at a lot of other manufacturers as well, but getting the kits
> shipped from US to New Zealand is expensive.
>
> Thanks all for your input.
> TW
> --
> 01 TJ Renegade 4.0L Auto
> D30/44, 265/75R16 BFG Muds
>

Re: Lift questions
 

"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:cltb7o$3uo$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> Can some kind sole provide me the part numbers for YJ OEM brake lines,
> which I understand are about 3" longer than stock TJ ones and should be
> easy to source from the dealer.
>
That would be a kind soul, not sole.

If you wanted stock YJ brake lines, you can get them over the counter from
your local parts store. They will be listed in the parts book.



> What about axle breathers front and rear? Whats the easiest way to extend
> them to compensate for extra length required with lift.

The axle breathers are either 3/16 or 5/16 hose. Buy several feet of bulk
hose and cut it to fit.



Would adjustable
> cam bolts in the rear help me having rear end adjusted for no driveline
> vibes?
>

If you dropped the tcase you could take care of the vibes. You want the
pinion angle and the tcase to be parallel. So, if the pinion angle is at 7°,
for example, then you also want the tcase to be angled to 7° so the
centerline of the output shaft and the pinion are parallel. (I pulled that
number out of the air, I have no idea what the pinion angle is going to be,
but my instinct says it will be closer to about 3°.)

I don't recall how much lift you plan on using, but they make a drop kit for
the tcase that lowers the skid plate the correct amount for the lift you are
using.




> I had looked at a lot of other manufacturers as well, but getting the kits
> shipped from US to New Zealand is expensive.
>
> Thanks all for your input.
> TW
> --
> 01 TJ Renegade 4.0L Auto
> D30/44, 265/75R16 BFG Muds
>

Re: Lift questions
 

"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:cltb7o$3uo$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> Can some kind sole provide me the part numbers for YJ OEM brake lines,
> which I understand are about 3" longer than stock TJ ones and should be
> easy to source from the dealer.
>
That would be a kind soul, not sole.

If you wanted stock YJ brake lines, you can get them over the counter from
your local parts store. They will be listed in the parts book.



> What about axle breathers front and rear? Whats the easiest way to extend
> them to compensate for extra length required with lift.

The axle breathers are either 3/16 or 5/16 hose. Buy several feet of bulk
hose and cut it to fit.



Would adjustable
> cam bolts in the rear help me having rear end adjusted for no driveline
> vibes?
>

If you dropped the tcase you could take care of the vibes. You want the
pinion angle and the tcase to be parallel. So, if the pinion angle is at 7°,
for example, then you also want the tcase to be angled to 7° so the
centerline of the output shaft and the pinion are parallel. (I pulled that
number out of the air, I have no idea what the pinion angle is going to be,
but my instinct says it will be closer to about 3°.)

I don't recall how much lift you plan on using, but they make a drop kit for
the tcase that lowers the skid plate the correct amount for the lift you are
using.




> I had looked at a lot of other manufacturers as well, but getting the kits
> shipped from US to New Zealand is expensive.
>
> Thanks all for your input.
> TW
> --
> 01 TJ Renegade 4.0L Auto
> D30/44, 265/75R16 BFG Muds
>

Re: Lift questions
 

"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10o53g69nal2ec1@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
> That would be a kind soul, not sole.
>
> If you wanted stock YJ brake lines, you can get them over the counter
from
> your local parts store. They will be listed in the parts book.
>

Ooops, late night and lack of sleep is not a good combination.

Well, local parts stores in New Zealand don't normally carry items that fit
Jeeps, especially Wranglers. In New Zealand last year Jeep sold around 30
new Wrangler in the whole year..... Not a big enough market. I have found
it to be more productive to go to the local dealer with part number so that
it can be ordered quickly.

>
> > What about axle breathers front and rear? Whats the easiest way to
extend
> > them to compensate for extra length required with lift.
>
> The axle breathers are either 3/16 or 5/16 hose. Buy several feet of bulk
> hose and cut it to fit.
>

Thanks. Is that inner dia or out dia? I will try to measure the
circumference and see what it works out to.

>
>
> Would adjustable
> > cam bolts in the rear help me having rear end adjusted for no driveline
> > vibes?
> >
>
> If you dropped the tcase you could take care of the vibes. You want the
> pinion angle and the tcase to be parallel. So, if the pinion angle is at
7°,
> for example, then you also want the tcase to be angled to 7° so the
> centerline of the output shaft and the pinion are parallel. (I pulled
that
> number out of the air, I have no idea what the pinion angle is going to
be,
> but my instinct says it will be closer to about 3°.)
>

I am reluctantly planning on dropping the t/case with their kit. What is
the acceptable range of pinion angle for a Dana 44 with automatic
transmission upfront? Would having adjustable cam bolts help me in staying
within the acceptable range as they allow more room to play with.

> I don't recall how much lift you plan on using, but they make a drop kit
for
> the tcase that lowers the skid plate the correct amount for the lift you
are
> using.
>

OME calls it a suspension upgrade and it is generally around 2 to 2.5"
depending on the extent and weight of accessories like hardtop and beefier
bumpers. For the time being I am dropping the t/case, but plan on 1" motor
mount lift, 1" body lift, belly up t/case skid plate and SYE and new rear
drive shaft as and when budget builds up again.

Thanks for your comments in advance.

TW

Re: Lift questions
 

"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10o53g69nal2ec1@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
> That would be a kind soul, not sole.
>
> If you wanted stock YJ brake lines, you can get them over the counter
from
> your local parts store. They will be listed in the parts book.
>

Ooops, late night and lack of sleep is not a good combination.

Well, local parts stores in New Zealand don't normally carry items that fit
Jeeps, especially Wranglers. In New Zealand last year Jeep sold around 30
new Wrangler in the whole year..... Not a big enough market. I have found
it to be more productive to go to the local dealer with part number so that
it can be ordered quickly.

>
> > What about axle breathers front and rear? Whats the easiest way to
extend
> > them to compensate for extra length required with lift.
>
> The axle breathers are either 3/16 or 5/16 hose. Buy several feet of bulk
> hose and cut it to fit.
>

Thanks. Is that inner dia or out dia? I will try to measure the
circumference and see what it works out to.

>
>
> Would adjustable
> > cam bolts in the rear help me having rear end adjusted for no driveline
> > vibes?
> >
>
> If you dropped the tcase you could take care of the vibes. You want the
> pinion angle and the tcase to be parallel. So, if the pinion angle is at
7°,
> for example, then you also want the tcase to be angled to 7° so the
> centerline of the output shaft and the pinion are parallel. (I pulled
that
> number out of the air, I have no idea what the pinion angle is going to
be,
> but my instinct says it will be closer to about 3°.)
>

I am reluctantly planning on dropping the t/case with their kit. What is
the acceptable range of pinion angle for a Dana 44 with automatic
transmission upfront? Would having adjustable cam bolts help me in staying
within the acceptable range as they allow more room to play with.

> I don't recall how much lift you plan on using, but they make a drop kit
for
> the tcase that lowers the skid plate the correct amount for the lift you
are
> using.
>

OME calls it a suspension upgrade and it is generally around 2 to 2.5"
depending on the extent and weight of accessories like hardtop and beefier
bumpers. For the time being I am dropping the t/case, but plan on 1" motor
mount lift, 1" body lift, belly up t/case skid plate and SYE and new rear
drive shaft as and when budget builds up again.

Thanks for your comments in advance.

TW

Re: Lift questions
 

"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10o53g69nal2ec1@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
> That would be a kind soul, not sole.
>
> If you wanted stock YJ brake lines, you can get them over the counter
from
> your local parts store. They will be listed in the parts book.
>

Ooops, late night and lack of sleep is not a good combination.

Well, local parts stores in New Zealand don't normally carry items that fit
Jeeps, especially Wranglers. In New Zealand last year Jeep sold around 30
new Wrangler in the whole year..... Not a big enough market. I have found
it to be more productive to go to the local dealer with part number so that
it can be ordered quickly.

>
> > What about axle breathers front and rear? Whats the easiest way to
extend
> > them to compensate for extra length required with lift.
>
> The axle breathers are either 3/16 or 5/16 hose. Buy several feet of bulk
> hose and cut it to fit.
>

Thanks. Is that inner dia or out dia? I will try to measure the
circumference and see what it works out to.

>
>
> Would adjustable
> > cam bolts in the rear help me having rear end adjusted for no driveline
> > vibes?
> >
>
> If you dropped the tcase you could take care of the vibes. You want the
> pinion angle and the tcase to be parallel. So, if the pinion angle is at
7°,
> for example, then you also want the tcase to be angled to 7° so the
> centerline of the output shaft and the pinion are parallel. (I pulled
that
> number out of the air, I have no idea what the pinion angle is going to
be,
> but my instinct says it will be closer to about 3°.)
>

I am reluctantly planning on dropping the t/case with their kit. What is
the acceptable range of pinion angle for a Dana 44 with automatic
transmission upfront? Would having adjustable cam bolts help me in staying
within the acceptable range as they allow more room to play with.

> I don't recall how much lift you plan on using, but they make a drop kit
for
> the tcase that lowers the skid plate the correct amount for the lift you
are
> using.
>

OME calls it a suspension upgrade and it is generally around 2 to 2.5"
depending on the extent and weight of accessories like hardtop and beefier
bumpers. For the time being I am dropping the t/case, but plan on 1" motor
mount lift, 1" body lift, belly up t/case skid plate and SYE and new rear
drive shaft as and when budget builds up again.

Thanks for your comments in advance.

TW