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Mike Romain 01-31-2005 12:34 PM

Re: lift
 
They throw the geometry of the axles way off so you need to shim the
springs for a safe and vibration free ride. Longer shackles also allow
the spring to flex out more which can wear out an old set fast.

Shackle lifts make the front end alignment wrong and the driveshaft
angles wrong.

It is a lot of work to try and set the angles back right with shims.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Jasonp wrote:
>
> Why stay away from shackle lifts?
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:qNTKd.1347$cl1.1279@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > What he said. You could add a 1" body lift if you need just a bit more
> > clearance. Stay away from shackle lifts, 2" and 3" body lifts.
> >
> > twaldron wrote:
> > > SUSPENSION!!!! ...did I say that out loud? RE, Teraflex, OME, to name
> > > a few good ones.
> > >
> > > Tony wrote:
> > >
> > >> I want to put 33 inch tires under my 87' YJ ...what does anyone
> > >> recomend for a lift kit.....body lift....suspension lift...
> > >>
> > >


Mike Romain 01-31-2005 12:34 PM

Re: lift
 
They throw the geometry of the axles way off so you need to shim the
springs for a safe and vibration free ride. Longer shackles also allow
the spring to flex out more which can wear out an old set fast.

Shackle lifts make the front end alignment wrong and the driveshaft
angles wrong.

It is a lot of work to try and set the angles back right with shims.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Jasonp wrote:
>
> Why stay away from shackle lifts?
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:qNTKd.1347$cl1.1279@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > What he said. You could add a 1" body lift if you need just a bit more
> > clearance. Stay away from shackle lifts, 2" and 3" body lifts.
> >
> > twaldron wrote:
> > > SUSPENSION!!!! ...did I say that out loud? RE, Teraflex, OME, to name
> > > a few good ones.
> > >
> > > Tony wrote:
> > >
> > >> I want to put 33 inch tires under my 87' YJ ...what does anyone
> > >> recomend for a lift kit.....body lift....suspension lift...
> > >>
> > >


Mike Romain 01-31-2005 12:34 PM

Re: lift
 
They throw the geometry of the axles way off so you need to shim the
springs for a safe and vibration free ride. Longer shackles also allow
the spring to flex out more which can wear out an old set fast.

Shackle lifts make the front end alignment wrong and the driveshaft
angles wrong.

It is a lot of work to try and set the angles back right with shims.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Jasonp wrote:
>
> Why stay away from shackle lifts?
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:qNTKd.1347$cl1.1279@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > What he said. You could add a 1" body lift if you need just a bit more
> > clearance. Stay away from shackle lifts, 2" and 3" body lifts.
> >
> > twaldron wrote:
> > > SUSPENSION!!!! ...did I say that out loud? RE, Teraflex, OME, to name
> > > a few good ones.
> > >
> > > Tony wrote:
> > >
> > >> I want to put 33 inch tires under my 87' YJ ...what does anyone
> > >> recomend for a lift kit.....body lift....suspension lift...
> > >>
> > >


Jasonp 01-31-2005 02:42 PM

Re: lift
 
I installed one....1.25". ( after I changed the springs)

I haven't noticed any vibration, everything seems ok. The other shackles
were in terrible shape so I thought change them. What should I be watching
for now as far as symptoms go?

Jason
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41FE6C25.75DF33B5@sympatico.ca...
> They throw the geometry of the axles way off so you need to shim the
> springs for a safe and vibration free ride. Longer shackles also allow
> the spring to flex out more which can wear out an old set fast.
>
> Shackle lifts make the front end alignment wrong and the driveshaft
> angles wrong.
>
> It is a lot of work to try and set the angles back right with shims.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jasonp wrote:
> >
> > Why stay away from shackle lifts?
> >
> > "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> > news:qNTKd.1347$cl1.1279@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > > What he said. You could add a 1" body lift if you need just a bit more
> > > clearance. Stay away from shackle lifts, 2" and 3" body lifts.
> > >
> > > twaldron wrote:
> > > > SUSPENSION!!!! ...did I say that out loud? RE, Teraflex, OME, to

name
> > > > a few good ones.
> > > >
> > > > Tony wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I want to put 33 inch tires under my 87' YJ ...what does anyone
> > > >> recomend for a lift kit.....body lift....suspension lift...
> > > >>
> > > >




Jasonp 01-31-2005 02:42 PM

Re: lift
 
I installed one....1.25". ( after I changed the springs)

I haven't noticed any vibration, everything seems ok. The other shackles
were in terrible shape so I thought change them. What should I be watching
for now as far as symptoms go?

Jason
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41FE6C25.75DF33B5@sympatico.ca...
> They throw the geometry of the axles way off so you need to shim the
> springs for a safe and vibration free ride. Longer shackles also allow
> the spring to flex out more which can wear out an old set fast.
>
> Shackle lifts make the front end alignment wrong and the driveshaft
> angles wrong.
>
> It is a lot of work to try and set the angles back right with shims.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jasonp wrote:
> >
> > Why stay away from shackle lifts?
> >
> > "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> > news:qNTKd.1347$cl1.1279@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > > What he said. You could add a 1" body lift if you need just a bit more
> > > clearance. Stay away from shackle lifts, 2" and 3" body lifts.
> > >
> > > twaldron wrote:
> > > > SUSPENSION!!!! ...did I say that out loud? RE, Teraflex, OME, to

name
> > > > a few good ones.
> > > >
> > > > Tony wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I want to put 33 inch tires under my 87' YJ ...what does anyone
> > > >> recomend for a lift kit.....body lift....suspension lift...
> > > >>
> > > >




Jasonp 01-31-2005 02:42 PM

Re: lift
 
I installed one....1.25". ( after I changed the springs)

I haven't noticed any vibration, everything seems ok. The other shackles
were in terrible shape so I thought change them. What should I be watching
for now as far as symptoms go?

Jason
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41FE6C25.75DF33B5@sympatico.ca...
> They throw the geometry of the axles way off so you need to shim the
> springs for a safe and vibration free ride. Longer shackles also allow
> the spring to flex out more which can wear out an old set fast.
>
> Shackle lifts make the front end alignment wrong and the driveshaft
> angles wrong.
>
> It is a lot of work to try and set the angles back right with shims.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jasonp wrote:
> >
> > Why stay away from shackle lifts?
> >
> > "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> > news:qNTKd.1347$cl1.1279@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > > What he said. You could add a 1" body lift if you need just a bit more
> > > clearance. Stay away from shackle lifts, 2" and 3" body lifts.
> > >
> > > twaldron wrote:
> > > > SUSPENSION!!!! ...did I say that out loud? RE, Teraflex, OME, to

name
> > > > a few good ones.
> > > >
> > > > Tony wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I want to put 33 inch tires under my 87' YJ ...what does anyone
> > > >> recomend for a lift kit.....body lift....suspension lift...
> > > >>
> > > >




Jasonp 01-31-2005 04:09 PM

Re: lift
 
I meant other than the symptoms you mentioned....I have no driveline
vibration at all right now, can there be bad things happening even with no
vibration?

Jason
"Jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message
news:BSvLd.89466$Ob.44868@edtnps84...
> I installed one....1.25". ( after I changed the springs)
>
> I haven't noticed any vibration, everything seems ok. The other shackles
> were in terrible shape so I thought change them. What should I be watching
> for now as far as symptoms go?
>
> Jason
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41FE6C25.75DF33B5@sympatico.ca...
> > They throw the geometry of the axles way off so you need to shim the
> > springs for a safe and vibration free ride. Longer shackles also allow
> > the spring to flex out more which can wear out an old set fast.
> >
> > Shackle lifts make the front end alignment wrong and the driveshaft
> > angles wrong.
> >
> > It is a lot of work to try and set the angles back right with shims.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Jasonp wrote:
> > >
> > > Why stay away from shackle lifts?
> > >
> > > "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> > > news:qNTKd.1347$cl1.1279@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > > > What he said. You could add a 1" body lift if you need just a bit

more
> > > > clearance. Stay away from shackle lifts, 2" and 3" body lifts.
> > > >
> > > > twaldron wrote:
> > > > > SUSPENSION!!!! ...did I say that out loud? RE, Teraflex, OME, to

> name
> > > > > a few good ones.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tony wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I want to put 33 inch tires under my 87' YJ ...what does anyone
> > > > >> recomend for a lift kit.....body lift....suspension lift...
> > > > >>
> > > > >

>
>




Jasonp 01-31-2005 04:09 PM

Re: lift
 
I meant other than the symptoms you mentioned....I have no driveline
vibration at all right now, can there be bad things happening even with no
vibration?

Jason
"Jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message
news:BSvLd.89466$Ob.44868@edtnps84...
> I installed one....1.25". ( after I changed the springs)
>
> I haven't noticed any vibration, everything seems ok. The other shackles
> were in terrible shape so I thought change them. What should I be watching
> for now as far as symptoms go?
>
> Jason
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41FE6C25.75DF33B5@sympatico.ca...
> > They throw the geometry of the axles way off so you need to shim the
> > springs for a safe and vibration free ride. Longer shackles also allow
> > the spring to flex out more which can wear out an old set fast.
> >
> > Shackle lifts make the front end alignment wrong and the driveshaft
> > angles wrong.
> >
> > It is a lot of work to try and set the angles back right with shims.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Jasonp wrote:
> > >
> > > Why stay away from shackle lifts?
> > >
> > > "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> > > news:qNTKd.1347$cl1.1279@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > > > What he said. You could add a 1" body lift if you need just a bit

more
> > > > clearance. Stay away from shackle lifts, 2" and 3" body lifts.
> > > >
> > > > twaldron wrote:
> > > > > SUSPENSION!!!! ...did I say that out loud? RE, Teraflex, OME, to

> name
> > > > > a few good ones.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tony wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I want to put 33 inch tires under my 87' YJ ...what does anyone
> > > > >> recomend for a lift kit.....body lift....suspension lift...
> > > > >>
> > > > >

>
>




Jasonp 01-31-2005 04:09 PM

Re: lift
 
I meant other than the symptoms you mentioned....I have no driveline
vibration at all right now, can there be bad things happening even with no
vibration?

Jason
"Jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message
news:BSvLd.89466$Ob.44868@edtnps84...
> I installed one....1.25". ( after I changed the springs)
>
> I haven't noticed any vibration, everything seems ok. The other shackles
> were in terrible shape so I thought change them. What should I be watching
> for now as far as symptoms go?
>
> Jason
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41FE6C25.75DF33B5@sympatico.ca...
> > They throw the geometry of the axles way off so you need to shim the
> > springs for a safe and vibration free ride. Longer shackles also allow
> > the spring to flex out more which can wear out an old set fast.
> >
> > Shackle lifts make the front end alignment wrong and the driveshaft
> > angles wrong.
> >
> > It is a lot of work to try and set the angles back right with shims.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Jasonp wrote:
> > >
> > > Why stay away from shackle lifts?
> > >
> > > "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> > > news:qNTKd.1347$cl1.1279@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> > > > What he said. You could add a 1" body lift if you need just a bit

more
> > > > clearance. Stay away from shackle lifts, 2" and 3" body lifts.
> > > >
> > > > twaldron wrote:
> > > > > SUSPENSION!!!! ...did I say that out loud? RE, Teraflex, OME, to

> name
> > > > > a few good ones.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tony wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I want to put 33 inch tires under my 87' YJ ...what does anyone
> > > > >> recomend for a lift kit.....body lift....suspension lift...
> > > > >>
> > > > >

>
>





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