Re: Liberty - engage 4WD from a stopped position
 

Yes it is, but just curious, why?

Tom

"bowgus" <bowgus@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:L4CdnWEy19mZcA7cRVn-rQ@rogers.com...
> I do not leave my jeep in 4L on a slope unattended. I leave it in 2H, Park
> ... hey, it's my jeep ... isn't it? :-).
>

Re: Liberty - engage 4WD from a stopped position
 

Yes it is, but just curious, why?

Tom

"bowgus" <bowgus@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:L4CdnWEy19mZcA7cRVn-rQ@rogers.com...
> I do not leave my jeep in 4L on a slope unattended. I leave it in 2H, Park
> ... hey, it's my jeep ... isn't it? :-).
>

Re: Liberty - engage 4WD from a stopped position
 

Yes it is, but just curious, why?

Tom

"bowgus" <bowgus@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:L4CdnWEy19mZcA7cRVn-rQ@rogers.com...
> I do not leave my jeep in 4L on a slope unattended. I leave it in 2H, Park
> ... hey, it's my jeep ... isn't it? :-).
>

Re: Liberty - engage 4WD from a stopped position
 

Barry Bean <bbbean@beancotton.com> wrote in message news:<Xns959E63EEB1B0Beatmorecotton@207.14.113.17> ...
> Is it possible to engage 4WD in a Liberty once you've stopped? In other
> words, if you should enter a mud hole in 2WD, only to get stuck, can you
> still engage the 4WD to get out?

There *IS* a trick to going into 4L. My TJ has command track and auto
trany and I sometimes have to jack with it to get into 4 low. I seem
to remember that the transmission has to be in neutral or it grinds.
I do not remember exactly what the correct incantation is, but it does
not work everytime but requires a little fussing with. That is why I
much prefer the setup in the old Willys - one lever for in/out of 4wd,
a second lever for High-Neutral-Low.

Re: Liberty - engage 4WD from a stopped position
 

Barry Bean <bbbean@beancotton.com> wrote in message news:<Xns959E63EEB1B0Beatmorecotton@207.14.113.17> ...
> Is it possible to engage 4WD in a Liberty once you've stopped? In other
> words, if you should enter a mud hole in 2WD, only to get stuck, can you
> still engage the 4WD to get out?

There *IS* a trick to going into 4L. My TJ has command track and auto
trany and I sometimes have to jack with it to get into 4 low. I seem
to remember that the transmission has to be in neutral or it grinds.
I do not remember exactly what the correct incantation is, but it does
not work everytime but requires a little fussing with. That is why I
much prefer the setup in the old Willys - one lever for in/out of 4wd,
a second lever for High-Neutral-Low.

Re: Liberty - engage 4WD from a stopped position
 

Barry Bean <bbbean@beancotton.com> wrote in message news:<Xns959E63EEB1B0Beatmorecotton@207.14.113.17> ...
> Is it possible to engage 4WD in a Liberty once you've stopped? In other
> words, if you should enter a mud hole in 2WD, only to get stuck, can you
> still engage the 4WD to get out?

There *IS* a trick to going into 4L. My TJ has command track and auto
trany and I sometimes have to jack with it to get into 4 low. I seem
to remember that the transmission has to be in neutral or it grinds.
I do not remember exactly what the correct incantation is, but it does
not work everytime but requires a little fussing with. That is why I
much prefer the setup in the old Willys - one lever for in/out of 4wd,
a second lever for High-Neutral-Low.

Re: Liberty - engage 4WD from a stopped position
 

Ok ... put yer command-trac 4spd auto, or borrow a buddies, on a slope in
4L, park and shut it off. Notice that in 4L the transmission gear select is
positioned way up front in park ... and the 4L select is left sticking up in
the breeze like a ... well ... it's left sticking up. Give it a little nudge
forward and ... geez ... the jeep is freewheeling it down the slope.

Alrighty then ... I'm down to the 1000 Islands with my wife and friends for
a day of boating. We''re done, I back the jeep down the ramp ... let's go
worst case and pick the ramp in Ivy Lee beside the restaurant ... I shut
down in 4L, park. I head down the dock to get the boat to run it up onto the
trailer ... I look back ... everybody's in the jeep ... but I guess my wife
reached back for something and nudged the 4L because the jeep, occupants and
trailer are disappearing into 120' of water. Now maybe the trailer will
jackknife stopping the freewheeling, but that would be in probably the 50'
depth range. Let's say there are no human casualties ... still not my idea
of a good day out ... especially when all I had to do was ... put the jeep
in 2H, park ... nothing sticking up, no accident waiting to happen ... run
the boat up onto the trailer, hop in the jeep ... start up, neutral, 4L,
drive ... gotta love that 4L ... just idles up the ramp ... stop, neutral,
2H ... and off home for a shower and a night out ... spent most of my money
on women and beer, the rest I just wasted :-).



"mabar" <mabar@NooSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
news:rKKdnXHmquEqYw7cRVn-ig@gbronline.com...
> Yes it is, but just curious, why?
>
> Tom
>
> "bowgus" <bowgus@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:L4CdnWEy19mZcA7cRVn-rQ@rogers.com...
> > I do not leave my jeep in 4L on a slope unattended. I leave it in 2H,
Park
> > ... hey, it's my jeep ... isn't it? :-).
> >
>
>

Re: Liberty - engage 4WD from a stopped position
 

Ok ... put yer command-trac 4spd auto, or borrow a buddies, on a slope in
4L, park and shut it off. Notice that in 4L the transmission gear select is
positioned way up front in park ... and the 4L select is left sticking up in
the breeze like a ... well ... it's left sticking up. Give it a little nudge
forward and ... geez ... the jeep is freewheeling it down the slope.

Alrighty then ... I'm down to the 1000 Islands with my wife and friends for
a day of boating. We''re done, I back the jeep down the ramp ... let's go
worst case and pick the ramp in Ivy Lee beside the restaurant ... I shut
down in 4L, park. I head down the dock to get the boat to run it up onto the
trailer ... I look back ... everybody's in the jeep ... but I guess my wife
reached back for something and nudged the 4L because the jeep, occupants and
trailer are disappearing into 120' of water. Now maybe the trailer will
jackknife stopping the freewheeling, but that would be in probably the 50'
depth range. Let's say there are no human casualties ... still not my idea
of a good day out ... especially when all I had to do was ... put the jeep
in 2H, park ... nothing sticking up, no accident waiting to happen ... run
the boat up onto the trailer, hop in the jeep ... start up, neutral, 4L,
drive ... gotta love that 4L ... just idles up the ramp ... stop, neutral,
2H ... and off home for a shower and a night out ... spent most of my money
on women and beer, the rest I just wasted :-).



"mabar" <mabar@NooSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
news:rKKdnXHmquEqYw7cRVn-ig@gbronline.com...
> Yes it is, but just curious, why?
>
> Tom
>
> "bowgus" <bowgus@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:L4CdnWEy19mZcA7cRVn-rQ@rogers.com...
> > I do not leave my jeep in 4L on a slope unattended. I leave it in 2H,
Park
> > ... hey, it's my jeep ... isn't it? :-).
> >
>
>

Re: Liberty - engage 4WD from a stopped position
 

Ok ... put yer command-trac 4spd auto, or borrow a buddies, on a slope in
4L, park and shut it off. Notice that in 4L the transmission gear select is
positioned way up front in park ... and the 4L select is left sticking up in
the breeze like a ... well ... it's left sticking up. Give it a little nudge
forward and ... geez ... the jeep is freewheeling it down the slope.

Alrighty then ... I'm down to the 1000 Islands with my wife and friends for
a day of boating. We''re done, I back the jeep down the ramp ... let's go
worst case and pick the ramp in Ivy Lee beside the restaurant ... I shut
down in 4L, park. I head down the dock to get the boat to run it up onto the
trailer ... I look back ... everybody's in the jeep ... but I guess my wife
reached back for something and nudged the 4L because the jeep, occupants and
trailer are disappearing into 120' of water. Now maybe the trailer will
jackknife stopping the freewheeling, but that would be in probably the 50'
depth range. Let's say there are no human casualties ... still not my idea
of a good day out ... especially when all I had to do was ... put the jeep
in 2H, park ... nothing sticking up, no accident waiting to happen ... run
the boat up onto the trailer, hop in the jeep ... start up, neutral, 4L,
drive ... gotta love that 4L ... just idles up the ramp ... stop, neutral,
2H ... and off home for a shower and a night out ... spent most of my money
on women and beer, the rest I just wasted :-).



"mabar" <mabar@NooSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
news:rKKdnXHmquEqYw7cRVn-ig@gbronline.com...
> Yes it is, but just curious, why?
>
> Tom
>
> "bowgus" <bowgus@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:L4CdnWEy19mZcA7cRVn-rQ@rogers.com...
> > I do not leave my jeep in 4L on a slope unattended. I leave it in 2H,
Park
> > ... hey, it's my jeep ... isn't it? :-).
> >
>
>

Re: Liberty - engage 4WD from a stopped position
 

Mabar ... I added a second pic I took before a day out at a relatively tame
ramp ... but it'll give you an idea of where my jeep would go if it went
freewheeling http://members.rogers.com/bowgus/