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Walt & Lynda Johnson 11-07-2005 09:03 PM

Liberty CRD
 
All,

Consumers Reports did a mini test on the Liberty CRD and
found that it yielded 18 MPG. The EPA found 26.

What are owners actually getting with the CRD?

Also, Consumers Reports mentioned that the CRD was noisy?
How noisy is it?

Thanks all.

--
Walt & Lynda Johnson
Cessna A185E with EDO 2790 Floats
KB2UOU



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-07-2005 11:10 PM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
Real Jeepers, don't give a Damn about gas mileage nor noise!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Walt & Lynda Johnson wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Consumers Reports did a mini test on the Liberty CRD and
> found that it yielded 18 MPG. The EPA found 26.
>
> What are owners actually getting with the CRD?
>
> Also, Consumers Reports mentioned that the CRD was noisy?
> How noisy is it?
>
> Thanks all.
>
> --
> Walt & Lynda Johnson
> Cessna A185E with EDO 2790 Floats
> KB2UOU


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-07-2005 11:10 PM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
Real Jeepers, don't give a Damn about gas mileage nor noise!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Walt & Lynda Johnson wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Consumers Reports did a mini test on the Liberty CRD and
> found that it yielded 18 MPG. The EPA found 26.
>
> What are owners actually getting with the CRD?
>
> Also, Consumers Reports mentioned that the CRD was noisy?
> How noisy is it?
>
> Thanks all.
>
> --
> Walt & Lynda Johnson
> Cessna A185E with EDO 2790 Floats
> KB2UOU


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-07-2005 11:10 PM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
Real Jeepers, don't give a Damn about gas mileage nor noise!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Walt & Lynda Johnson wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Consumers Reports did a mini test on the Liberty CRD and
> found that it yielded 18 MPG. The EPA found 26.
>
> What are owners actually getting with the CRD?
>
> Also, Consumers Reports mentioned that the CRD was noisy?
> How noisy is it?
>
> Thanks all.
>
> --
> Walt & Lynda Johnson
> Cessna A185E with EDO 2790 Floats
> KB2UOU


Billy Ray 11-07-2005 11:36 PM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
Now Bill...... That is not at all true.

Real Jeepers prefer noise, bad mileage, and fumes

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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
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> Real Jeepers, don't give a Damn about gas mileage nor noise!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Walt & Lynda Johnson wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> Consumers Reports did a mini test on the Liberty CRD and
>> found that it yielded 18 MPG. The EPA found 26.
>>
>> What are owners actually getting with the CRD?
>>
>> Also, Consumers Reports mentioned that the CRD was noisy?
>> How noisy is it?
>>
>> Thanks all.
>>
>> --
>> Walt & Lynda Johnson
>> Cessna A185E with EDO 2790 Floats
>> KB2UOU




Billy Ray 11-07-2005 11:36 PM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
Now Bill...... That is not at all true.

Real Jeepers prefer noise, bad mileage, and fumes

--
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43702544.CEA63F53@cox.net...
> Real Jeepers, don't give a Damn about gas mileage nor noise!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Walt & Lynda Johnson wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> Consumers Reports did a mini test on the Liberty CRD and
>> found that it yielded 18 MPG. The EPA found 26.
>>
>> What are owners actually getting with the CRD?
>>
>> Also, Consumers Reports mentioned that the CRD was noisy?
>> How noisy is it?
>>
>> Thanks all.
>>
>> --
>> Walt & Lynda Johnson
>> Cessna A185E with EDO 2790 Floats
>> KB2UOU




Billy Ray 11-07-2005 11:36 PM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
Now Bill...... That is not at all true.

Real Jeepers prefer noise, bad mileage, and fumes

--
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43702544.CEA63F53@cox.net...
> Real Jeepers, don't give a Damn about gas mileage nor noise!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Walt & Lynda Johnson wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> Consumers Reports did a mini test on the Liberty CRD and
>> found that it yielded 18 MPG. The EPA found 26.
>>
>> What are owners actually getting with the CRD?
>>
>> Also, Consumers Reports mentioned that the CRD was noisy?
>> How noisy is it?
>>
>> Thanks all.
>>
>> --
>> Walt & Lynda Johnson
>> Cessna A185E with EDO 2790 Floats
>> KB2UOU




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-07-2005 11:48 PM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
And a need for speed, no econo rice burner for us!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Now Bill...... That is not at all true.
>
> Real Jeepers prefer noise, bad mileage, and fumes
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-07-2005 11:48 PM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
And a need for speed, no econo rice burner for us!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Now Bill...... That is not at all true.
>
> Real Jeepers prefer noise, bad mileage, and fumes
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-07-2005 11:48 PM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
And a need for speed, no econo rice burner for us!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Now Bill...... That is not at all true.
>
> Real Jeepers prefer noise, bad mileage, and fumes
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.


Billy Ray 11-08-2005 12:00 AM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
Real Jeeps leaked as much oil as they burned..

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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
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> And a need for speed, no econo rice burner for us!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> Now Bill...... That is not at all true.
>>
>> Real Jeepers prefer noise, bad mileage, and fumes
>>
>> --
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.




Billy Ray 11-08-2005 12:00 AM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
Real Jeeps leaked as much oil as they burned..

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..
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43702E3A.13A98827@cox.net...
> And a need for speed, no econo rice burner for us!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> Now Bill...... That is not at all true.
>>
>> Real Jeepers prefer noise, bad mileage, and fumes
>>
>> --
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.




Billy Ray 11-08-2005 12:00 AM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
Real Jeeps leaked as much oil as they burned..

--
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43702E3A.13A98827@cox.net...
> And a need for speed, no econo rice burner for us!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> Now Bill...... That is not at all true.
>>
>> Real Jeepers prefer noise, bad mileage, and fumes
>>
>> --
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-08-2005 01:18 AM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
Speak for yourself.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Real Jeeps leaked as much oil as they burned..
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-08-2005 01:18 AM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
Speak for yourself.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Real Jeeps leaked as much oil as they burned..
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-08-2005 01:18 AM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
Speak for yourself.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Real Jeeps leaked as much oil as they burned..
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.


Billy Ray 11-08-2005 01:46 AM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
I did. See where it says
"Billy Ray wrote:"

Actually the leakiest engine I ever saw was a '72 Chevy Nova with the 250
cid 6 cylinder that belonged to my girlfriend. The stuff would come right
through the side of the block..

http://www.napalm.net/safety.html

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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
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> Speak for yourself.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> Real Jeeps leaked as much oil as they burned..
>>
>> --
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.





Billy Ray 11-08-2005 01:46 AM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
I did. See where it says
"Billy Ray wrote:"

Actually the leakiest engine I ever saw was a '72 Chevy Nova with the 250
cid 6 cylinder that belonged to my girlfriend. The stuff would come right
through the side of the block..

http://www.napalm.net/safety.html

--
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43704351.5ED60CC7@cox.net...
> Speak for yourself.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> Real Jeeps leaked as much oil as they burned..
>>
>> --
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.





Billy Ray 11-08-2005 01:46 AM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
I did. See where it says
"Billy Ray wrote:"

Actually the leakiest engine I ever saw was a '72 Chevy Nova with the 250
cid 6 cylinder that belonged to my girlfriend. The stuff would come right
through the side of the block..

http://www.napalm.net/safety.html

--
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43704351.5ED60CC7@cox.net...
> Speak for yourself.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> Real Jeeps leaked as much oil as they burned..
>>
>> --
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.





KJ.Kate 11-08-2005 07:06 AM

Re: Liberty CRD
 

I have an 05 Liberty Limited 4WD
I don't have the CRD I have a V6 gas burner. I get an average of 17.6 mpg. I
only have 2300 miles on it so far.
So unless you specifically want the CRD the additional cost isn't really
warranted strictly because of fuel economy.
Diesel is running higher than gasoline and the price is dropping slower than
gasoline. In the past diesel was always cheaper than gas.

KJK


"Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
news:0sGdnQIUfdMVmu3eRVn-hQ@usadatanet.net...
: All,
:
: Consumers Reports did a mini test on the Liberty CRD and
: found that it yielded 18 MPG. The EPA found 26.
:
: What are owners actually getting with the CRD?
:
: Also, Consumers Reports mentioned that the CRD was noisy?
: How noisy is it?
:
: Thanks all.
:
: --
: Walt & Lynda Johnson
: Cessna A185E with EDO 2790 Floats
: KB2UOU
:
:



KJ.Kate 11-08-2005 07:06 AM

Re: Liberty CRD
 

I have an 05 Liberty Limited 4WD
I don't have the CRD I have a V6 gas burner. I get an average of 17.6 mpg. I
only have 2300 miles on it so far.
So unless you specifically want the CRD the additional cost isn't really
warranted strictly because of fuel economy.
Diesel is running higher than gasoline and the price is dropping slower than
gasoline. In the past diesel was always cheaper than gas.

KJK


"Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
news:0sGdnQIUfdMVmu3eRVn-hQ@usadatanet.net...
: All,
:
: Consumers Reports did a mini test on the Liberty CRD and
: found that it yielded 18 MPG. The EPA found 26.
:
: What are owners actually getting with the CRD?
:
: Also, Consumers Reports mentioned that the CRD was noisy?
: How noisy is it?
:
: Thanks all.
:
: --
: Walt & Lynda Johnson
: Cessna A185E with EDO 2790 Floats
: KB2UOU
:
:



KJ.Kate 11-08-2005 07:06 AM

Re: Liberty CRD
 

I have an 05 Liberty Limited 4WD
I don't have the CRD I have a V6 gas burner. I get an average of 17.6 mpg. I
only have 2300 miles on it so far.
So unless you specifically want the CRD the additional cost isn't really
warranted strictly because of fuel economy.
Diesel is running higher than gasoline and the price is dropping slower than
gasoline. In the past diesel was always cheaper than gas.

KJK


"Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
news:0sGdnQIUfdMVmu3eRVn-hQ@usadatanet.net...
: All,
:
: Consumers Reports did a mini test on the Liberty CRD and
: found that it yielded 18 MPG. The EPA found 26.
:
: What are owners actually getting with the CRD?
:
: Also, Consumers Reports mentioned that the CRD was noisy?
: How noisy is it?
:
: Thanks all.
:
: --
: Walt & Lynda Johnson
: Cessna A185E with EDO 2790 Floats
: KB2UOU
:
:



Matt Macchiarolo 11-08-2005 09:16 AM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
Consumer Reports is about the last place I would go for information on any
American nameplate. They have a distinct bias towards American brands in
general and Jeep in particular. But I'm sure the Libby is their favorite one
yet.

If I need a washing machine, I read CR. If I need a car, I do my own
research.

"Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
news:0sGdnQIUfdMVmu3eRVn-hQ@usadatanet.net...
> All,
>
> Consumers Reports did a mini test on the Liberty CRD and
> found that it yielded 18 MPG. The EPA found 26.
>
> What are owners actually getting with the CRD?
>
> Also, Consumers Reports mentioned that the CRD was noisy?
> How noisy is it?
>
> Thanks all.
>
> --
> Walt & Lynda Johnson
> Cessna A185E with EDO 2790 Floats
> KB2UOU
>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 11-08-2005 09:16 AM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
Consumer Reports is about the last place I would go for information on any
American nameplate. They have a distinct bias towards American brands in
general and Jeep in particular. But I'm sure the Libby is their favorite one
yet.

If I need a washing machine, I read CR. If I need a car, I do my own
research.

"Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
news:0sGdnQIUfdMVmu3eRVn-hQ@usadatanet.net...
> All,
>
> Consumers Reports did a mini test on the Liberty CRD and
> found that it yielded 18 MPG. The EPA found 26.
>
> What are owners actually getting with the CRD?
>
> Also, Consumers Reports mentioned that the CRD was noisy?
> How noisy is it?
>
> Thanks all.
>
> --
> Walt & Lynda Johnson
> Cessna A185E with EDO 2790 Floats
> KB2UOU
>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 11-08-2005 09:16 AM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
Consumer Reports is about the last place I would go for information on any
American nameplate. They have a distinct bias towards American brands in
general and Jeep in particular. But I'm sure the Libby is their favorite one
yet.

If I need a washing machine, I read CR. If I need a car, I do my own
research.

"Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
news:0sGdnQIUfdMVmu3eRVn-hQ@usadatanet.net...
> All,
>
> Consumers Reports did a mini test on the Liberty CRD and
> found that it yielded 18 MPG. The EPA found 26.
>
> What are owners actually getting with the CRD?
>
> Also, Consumers Reports mentioned that the CRD was noisy?
> How noisy is it?
>
> Thanks all.
>
> --
> Walt & Lynda Johnson
> Cessna A185E with EDO 2790 Floats
> KB2UOU
>
>




Lon 11-08-2005 01:14 PM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
Real Jeepers don't give a rat about Consumer Reports politically
motivated opinions on vehicles.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:

> Real Jeepers, don't give a Damn about gas mileage nor noise!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Walt & Lynda Johnson wrote:
>
>>All,
>>
>>Consumers Reports did a mini test on the Liberty CRD and
>>found that it yielded 18 MPG. The EPA found 26.
>>
>>What are owners actually getting with the CRD?
>>
>>Also, Consumers Reports mentioned that the CRD was noisy?
>>How noisy is it?
>>
>>Thanks all.
>>
>>--
>>Walt & Lynda Johnson
>>Cessna A185E with EDO 2790 Floats
>>KB2UOU


Lon 11-08-2005 01:14 PM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
Real Jeepers don't give a rat about Consumer Reports politically
motivated opinions on vehicles.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:

> Real Jeepers, don't give a Damn about gas mileage nor noise!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Walt & Lynda Johnson wrote:
>
>>All,
>>
>>Consumers Reports did a mini test on the Liberty CRD and
>>found that it yielded 18 MPG. The EPA found 26.
>>
>>What are owners actually getting with the CRD?
>>
>>Also, Consumers Reports mentioned that the CRD was noisy?
>>How noisy is it?
>>
>>Thanks all.
>>
>>--
>>Walt & Lynda Johnson
>>Cessna A185E with EDO 2790 Floats
>>KB2UOU


Lon 11-08-2005 01:14 PM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
Real Jeepers don't give a rat about Consumer Reports politically
motivated opinions on vehicles.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:

> Real Jeepers, don't give a Damn about gas mileage nor noise!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Walt & Lynda Johnson wrote:
>
>>All,
>>
>>Consumers Reports did a mini test on the Liberty CRD and
>>found that it yielded 18 MPG. The EPA found 26.
>>
>>What are owners actually getting with the CRD?
>>
>>Also, Consumers Reports mentioned that the CRD was noisy?
>>How noisy is it?
>>
>>Thanks all.
>>
>>--
>>Walt & Lynda Johnson
>>Cessna A185E with EDO 2790 Floats
>>KB2UOU


Billy Ray 11-08-2005 04:23 PM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
I've been reading consumer reports for about 30 years now and they certainly
have a yuppie/yuppette tree-hugger bias.

Once you understand their bias you'll find them a good source of statistical
information.

They have no understanding of off-road issues and requirements and judge
SUVs in the same light as they would rate any other vehicle whose use is
solely light duty on paved streets.

A quick look at their recommended vehicles confirms this, when was the last
time you saw the recommended Buick Rendezvous or Volvo V70/XC70 off-road?

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"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:JaSdnUw_h5Ryd-3enZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Real Jeepers don't give a rat about Consumer Reports politically motivated
> opinions on vehicles.
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:
>
>> Real Jeepers, don't give a Damn about gas mileage nor noise! God
>> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Walt & Lynda Johnson wrote:
>>
>>>All,
>>>
>>>Consumers Reports did a mini test on the Liberty CRD and
>>>found that it yielded 18 MPG. The EPA found 26.
>>>
>>>What are owners actually getting with the CRD?
>>>
>>>Also, Consumers Reports mentioned that the CRD was noisy?
>>>How noisy is it?
>>>
>>>Thanks all.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Walt & Lynda Johnson
>>>Cessna A185E with EDO 2790 Floats
>>>KB2UOU




Billy Ray 11-08-2005 04:23 PM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
I've been reading consumer reports for about 30 years now and they certainly
have a yuppie/yuppette tree-hugger bias.

Once you understand their bias you'll find them a good source of statistical
information.

They have no understanding of off-road issues and requirements and judge
SUVs in the same light as they would rate any other vehicle whose use is
solely light duty on paved streets.

A quick look at their recommended vehicles confirms this, when was the last
time you saw the recommended Buick Rendezvous or Volvo V70/XC70 off-road?

--
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:JaSdnUw_h5Ryd-3enZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Real Jeepers don't give a rat about Consumer Reports politically motivated
> opinions on vehicles.
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:
>
>> Real Jeepers, don't give a Damn about gas mileage nor noise! God
>> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Walt & Lynda Johnson wrote:
>>
>>>All,
>>>
>>>Consumers Reports did a mini test on the Liberty CRD and
>>>found that it yielded 18 MPG. The EPA found 26.
>>>
>>>What are owners actually getting with the CRD?
>>>
>>>Also, Consumers Reports mentioned that the CRD was noisy?
>>>How noisy is it?
>>>
>>>Thanks all.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Walt & Lynda Johnson
>>>Cessna A185E with EDO 2790 Floats
>>>KB2UOU




Billy Ray 11-08-2005 04:23 PM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
I've been reading consumer reports for about 30 years now and they certainly
have a yuppie/yuppette tree-hugger bias.

Once you understand their bias you'll find them a good source of statistical
information.

They have no understanding of off-road issues and requirements and judge
SUVs in the same light as they would rate any other vehicle whose use is
solely light duty on paved streets.

A quick look at their recommended vehicles confirms this, when was the last
time you saw the recommended Buick Rendezvous or Volvo V70/XC70 off-road?

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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Real Jeepers don't give a rat about Consumer Reports politically motivated
> opinions on vehicles.
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:
>
>> Real Jeepers, don't give a Damn about gas mileage nor noise! God
>> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Walt & Lynda Johnson wrote:
>>
>>>All,
>>>
>>>Consumers Reports did a mini test on the Liberty CRD and
>>>found that it yielded 18 MPG. The EPA found 26.
>>>
>>>What are owners actually getting with the CRD?
>>>
>>>Also, Consumers Reports mentioned that the CRD was noisy?
>>>How noisy is it?
>>>
>>>Thanks all.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Walt & Lynda Johnson
>>>Cessna A185E with EDO 2790 Floats
>>>KB2UOU




philthy 11-09-2005 06:11 PM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
you can not hear it running at 20 feet away and the smell is not there

Walt & Lynda Johnson wrote:

> All,
>
> Consumers Reports did a mini test on the Liberty CRD and
> found that it yielded 18 MPG. The EPA found 26.
>
> What are owners actually getting with the CRD?
>
> Also, Consumers Reports mentioned that the CRD was noisy?
> How noisy is it?
>
> Thanks all.
>
> --
> Walt & Lynda Johnson
> Cessna A185E with EDO 2790 Floats
> KB2UOU



philthy 11-09-2005 06:11 PM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
you can not hear it running at 20 feet away and the smell is not there

Walt & Lynda Johnson wrote:

> All,
>
> Consumers Reports did a mini test on the Liberty CRD and
> found that it yielded 18 MPG. The EPA found 26.
>
> What are owners actually getting with the CRD?
>
> Also, Consumers Reports mentioned that the CRD was noisy?
> How noisy is it?
>
> Thanks all.
>
> --
> Walt & Lynda Johnson
> Cessna A185E with EDO 2790 Floats
> KB2UOU



philthy 11-09-2005 06:11 PM

Re: Liberty CRD
 
you can not hear it running at 20 feet away and the smell is not there

Walt & Lynda Johnson wrote:

> All,
>
> Consumers Reports did a mini test on the Liberty CRD and
> found that it yielded 18 MPG. The EPA found 26.
>
> What are owners actually getting with the CRD?
>
> Also, Consumers Reports mentioned that the CRD was noisy?
> How noisy is it?
>
> Thanks all.
>
> --
> Walt & Lynda Johnson
> Cessna A185E with EDO 2790 Floats
> KB2UOU




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