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Ted Borck 11-25-2005 02:38 PM

Re: Left LoBeam Out, Turn Signal Warning Signal On
 
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> That sounds like you have lost a ground tag.


> I don't know where they are located, but if you check the harness close
> to the bad light, you should find a wire not hooked up or a corroded
> screw holding the wire to the back of the grill somewhere. It might be
> at the very end of the light harness, but usually each headlight has
> it's own ground tag.


> I think you might have two issues, the signal could be a bad or shorted
> bulb, or just the one problem where the headlight could be coming on dim
> in time with the signal because it is stealing the signal circuit's
> direct body ground. The signal usually grounds through the fixture or
> on new plastic ones their own ground wire.


> The light circuits use independent grounds and can steal them when lost
> making all kinds of strange things happen.



OK,

I checked and the non-functioning lights have power going to them.

According to alldata diagrams, it appears that the left front headlight
and turnsignal harness ground at bolt screwed into the middle of the left
(driverside) fender.

Cleaning that ground connection made no difference. Jumping a ground
directly from the grounding connectors and bolt to the battery negative
terminal made no difference; so am now backtracking through the various
connectors between the grounding bolt and the headlight assembly.

Thanks to all for the suggestions.

Any and all other suggestions will be appreciated.

--
Ted Borck tborck@panix.com

Ted Borck 11-25-2005 02:38 PM

Re: Left LoBeam Out, Turn Signal Warning Signal On
 
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> That sounds like you have lost a ground tag.


> I don't know where they are located, but if you check the harness close
> to the bad light, you should find a wire not hooked up or a corroded
> screw holding the wire to the back of the grill somewhere. It might be
> at the very end of the light harness, but usually each headlight has
> it's own ground tag.


> I think you might have two issues, the signal could be a bad or shorted
> bulb, or just the one problem where the headlight could be coming on dim
> in time with the signal because it is stealing the signal circuit's
> direct body ground. The signal usually grounds through the fixture or
> on new plastic ones their own ground wire.


> The light circuits use independent grounds and can steal them when lost
> making all kinds of strange things happen.



OK,

I checked and the non-functioning lights have power going to them.

According to alldata diagrams, it appears that the left front headlight
and turnsignal harness ground at bolt screwed into the middle of the left
(driverside) fender.

Cleaning that ground connection made no difference. Jumping a ground
directly from the grounding connectors and bolt to the battery negative
terminal made no difference; so am now backtracking through the various
connectors between the grounding bolt and the headlight assembly.

Thanks to all for the suggestions.

Any and all other suggestions will be appreciated.

--
Ted Borck tborck@panix.com

Ted Borck 11-25-2005 02:38 PM

Re: Left LoBeam Out, Turn Signal Warning Signal On
 
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> That sounds like you have lost a ground tag.


> I don't know where they are located, but if you check the harness close
> to the bad light, you should find a wire not hooked up or a corroded
> screw holding the wire to the back of the grill somewhere. It might be
> at the very end of the light harness, but usually each headlight has
> it's own ground tag.


> I think you might have two issues, the signal could be a bad or shorted
> bulb, or just the one problem where the headlight could be coming on dim
> in time with the signal because it is stealing the signal circuit's
> direct body ground. The signal usually grounds through the fixture or
> on new plastic ones their own ground wire.


> The light circuits use independent grounds and can steal them when lost
> making all kinds of strange things happen.



OK,

I checked and the non-functioning lights have power going to them.

According to alldata diagrams, it appears that the left front headlight
and turnsignal harness ground at bolt screwed into the middle of the left
(driverside) fender.

Cleaning that ground connection made no difference. Jumping a ground
directly from the grounding connectors and bolt to the battery negative
terminal made no difference; so am now backtracking through the various
connectors between the grounding bolt and the headlight assembly.

Thanks to all for the suggestions.

Any and all other suggestions will be appreciated.

--
Ted Borck tborck@panix.com

Mike Romain 11-25-2005 03:05 PM

Re: Left LoBeam Out, Turn Signal Warning Signal On
 
Ted Borck wrote:
>
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > That sounds like you have lost a ground tag.

>
> > I don't know where they are located, but if you check the harness close
> > to the bad light, you should find a wire not hooked up or a corroded
> > screw holding the wire to the back of the grill somewhere. It might be
> > at the very end of the light harness, but usually each headlight has
> > it's own ground tag.

>
> > I think you might have two issues, the signal could be a bad or shorted
> > bulb, or just the one problem where the headlight could be coming on dim
> > in time with the signal because it is stealing the signal circuit's
> > direct body ground. The signal usually grounds through the fixture or
> > on new plastic ones their own ground wire.

>
> > The light circuits use independent grounds and can steal them when lost
> > making all kinds of strange things happen.

>
> OK,
>
> I checked and the non-functioning lights have power going to them.
>
> According to alldata diagrams, it appears that the left front headlight
> and turnsignal harness ground at bolt screwed into the middle of the left
> (driverside) fender.
>
> Cleaning that ground connection made no difference. Jumping a ground
> directly from the grounding connectors and bolt to the battery negative
> terminal made no difference; so am now backtracking through the various
> connectors between the grounding bolt and the headlight assembly.
>
> Thanks to all for the suggestions.
>
> Any and all other suggestions will be appreciated.
>
> --
> Ted Borck tborck@panix.com


I would pull the signal bulbs next, front one first, then the back one
to see if one bad.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 11-25-2005 03:05 PM

Re: Left LoBeam Out, Turn Signal Warning Signal On
 
Ted Borck wrote:
>
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > That sounds like you have lost a ground tag.

>
> > I don't know where they are located, but if you check the harness close
> > to the bad light, you should find a wire not hooked up or a corroded
> > screw holding the wire to the back of the grill somewhere. It might be
> > at the very end of the light harness, but usually each headlight has
> > it's own ground tag.

>
> > I think you might have two issues, the signal could be a bad or shorted
> > bulb, or just the one problem where the headlight could be coming on dim
> > in time with the signal because it is stealing the signal circuit's
> > direct body ground. The signal usually grounds through the fixture or
> > on new plastic ones their own ground wire.

>
> > The light circuits use independent grounds and can steal them when lost
> > making all kinds of strange things happen.

>
> OK,
>
> I checked and the non-functioning lights have power going to them.
>
> According to alldata diagrams, it appears that the left front headlight
> and turnsignal harness ground at bolt screwed into the middle of the left
> (driverside) fender.
>
> Cleaning that ground connection made no difference. Jumping a ground
> directly from the grounding connectors and bolt to the battery negative
> terminal made no difference; so am now backtracking through the various
> connectors between the grounding bolt and the headlight assembly.
>
> Thanks to all for the suggestions.
>
> Any and all other suggestions will be appreciated.
>
> --
> Ted Borck tborck@panix.com


I would pull the signal bulbs next, front one first, then the back one
to see if one bad.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 11-25-2005 03:05 PM

Re: Left LoBeam Out, Turn Signal Warning Signal On
 
Ted Borck wrote:
>
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > That sounds like you have lost a ground tag.

>
> > I don't know where they are located, but if you check the harness close
> > to the bad light, you should find a wire not hooked up or a corroded
> > screw holding the wire to the back of the grill somewhere. It might be
> > at the very end of the light harness, but usually each headlight has
> > it's own ground tag.

>
> > I think you might have two issues, the signal could be a bad or shorted
> > bulb, or just the one problem where the headlight could be coming on dim
> > in time with the signal because it is stealing the signal circuit's
> > direct body ground. The signal usually grounds through the fixture or
> > on new plastic ones their own ground wire.

>
> > The light circuits use independent grounds and can steal them when lost
> > making all kinds of strange things happen.

>
> OK,
>
> I checked and the non-functioning lights have power going to them.
>
> According to alldata diagrams, it appears that the left front headlight
> and turnsignal harness ground at bolt screwed into the middle of the left
> (driverside) fender.
>
> Cleaning that ground connection made no difference. Jumping a ground
> directly from the grounding connectors and bolt to the battery negative
> terminal made no difference; so am now backtracking through the various
> connectors between the grounding bolt and the headlight assembly.
>
> Thanks to all for the suggestions.
>
> Any and all other suggestions will be appreciated.
>
> --
> Ted Borck tborck@panix.com


I would pull the signal bulbs next, front one first, then the back one
to see if one bad.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


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