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Heatwave 11-08-2007 02:52 PM

Re: Larger Tires on JK
 
In article <20h6j35tgrnhqtglq9e4u2vc1u6fnucqis@4ax.com>,
admin@snoman.com says...
> Just remeber that bigger tires like this redu........

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Heatwave 11-08-2007 02:52 PM

Re: Larger Tires on JK
 
In article <20h6j35tgrnhqtglq9e4u2vc1u6fnucqis@4ax.com>,
admin@snoman.com says...
> Just remeber that bigger tires like this redu........

[snip]

***Important information reguarding SnoMan***

SBJ: 4T65E
http://tinyurl.com/2lcjkv
(Confuses a 4T65e with a 4L65e and won't admit it.)

SBJ: Dumb brake question
http://tinyurl.com/2ya3wo
(Discribes the wrong brakes and won't admit it.)

SBJ: Front wheel bearings-2000 Blazer??
http://tinyurl.com/2j44zv
(Claims torque specs are wrong when they are not.)

SBJ: Snoball Defense System v1.01
http://tinyurl.com/2okyfx
(Snoball breaks these out when he knows he's wrong
and won't admit it.)


Heatwave 11-08-2007 02:52 PM

Re: Larger Tires on JK
 
In article <20h6j35tgrnhqtglq9e4u2vc1u6fnucqis@4ax.com>,
admin@snoman.com says...
> Just remeber that bigger tires like this redu........

[snip]

***Important information reguarding SnoMan***

SBJ: 4T65E
http://tinyurl.com/2lcjkv
(Confuses a 4T65e with a 4L65e and won't admit it.)

SBJ: Dumb brake question
http://tinyurl.com/2ya3wo
(Discribes the wrong brakes and won't admit it.)

SBJ: Front wheel bearings-2000 Blazer??
http://tinyurl.com/2j44zv
(Claims torque specs are wrong when they are not.)

SBJ: Snoball Defense System v1.01
http://tinyurl.com/2okyfx
(Snoball breaks these out when he knows he's wrong
and won't admit it.)


nrs 11-08-2007 03:18 PM

Re: Larger Tires on JK
 
On Nov 8, 12:37 pm, "Fred Garvin" <Fga...@mail.com> wrote:
> Hmmm. So I have a couple of large jet skiies that I pull. Could be a
> noticable issue?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Fred"SnoMan" <ad...@snoman.com> wrote in message
>
> news:20h6j35tgrnhqtglq9e4u2vc1u6fnucqis@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:33:59 -0000, nrs <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> >>On Nov 8, 7:33 am, "Fred Garvin" <Fga...@mail.com> wrote:
> >>> Has anyone put larger tires on their stock JK Rubicon. I'm wanting
> >>> larger
> >>> tires with minimal effort and want to keep my stock rims. Thanks in
> >>> advance!

>
> >>> -Fred
> >>> 08 JK Rubicon
> >>> 04 TJ Rubicon
> >>> 02 TJ X
> >>> 00 TJ Sport
> >>> (I've handed them down to my boys :-)

>
> >>A local JK owner put 33's on it with just a budget boost and it worked
> >>out very well.

>
> > Just remeber that bigger tires like this reduce your effective pulling
> > power with stock axle ratios and reduce brake too do to increased tire
> > mass and leverage over brakes. There is no free lunch here. Keep this
> > in mind.
> > -----------------
> > TheSnoMan.com- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


They come stock with 32 inch tires stock so 33 inch will probably not
affect things too much.


nrs 11-08-2007 03:18 PM

Re: Larger Tires on JK
 
On Nov 8, 12:37 pm, "Fred Garvin" <Fga...@mail.com> wrote:
> Hmmm. So I have a couple of large jet skiies that I pull. Could be a
> noticable issue?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Fred"SnoMan" <ad...@snoman.com> wrote in message
>
> news:20h6j35tgrnhqtglq9e4u2vc1u6fnucqis@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:33:59 -0000, nrs <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> >>On Nov 8, 7:33 am, "Fred Garvin" <Fga...@mail.com> wrote:
> >>> Has anyone put larger tires on their stock JK Rubicon. I'm wanting
> >>> larger
> >>> tires with minimal effort and want to keep my stock rims. Thanks in
> >>> advance!

>
> >>> -Fred
> >>> 08 JK Rubicon
> >>> 04 TJ Rubicon
> >>> 02 TJ X
> >>> 00 TJ Sport
> >>> (I've handed them down to my boys :-)

>
> >>A local JK owner put 33's on it with just a budget boost and it worked
> >>out very well.

>
> > Just remeber that bigger tires like this reduce your effective pulling
> > power with stock axle ratios and reduce brake too do to increased tire
> > mass and leverage over brakes. There is no free lunch here. Keep this
> > in mind.
> > -----------------
> > TheSnoMan.com- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


They come stock with 32 inch tires stock so 33 inch will probably not
affect things too much.


nrs 11-08-2007 03:18 PM

Re: Larger Tires on JK
 
On Nov 8, 12:37 pm, "Fred Garvin" <Fga...@mail.com> wrote:
> Hmmm. So I have a couple of large jet skiies that I pull. Could be a
> noticable issue?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Fred"SnoMan" <ad...@snoman.com> wrote in message
>
> news:20h6j35tgrnhqtglq9e4u2vc1u6fnucqis@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:33:59 -0000, nrs <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> >>On Nov 8, 7:33 am, "Fred Garvin" <Fga...@mail.com> wrote:
> >>> Has anyone put larger tires on their stock JK Rubicon. I'm wanting
> >>> larger
> >>> tires with minimal effort and want to keep my stock rims. Thanks in
> >>> advance!

>
> >>> -Fred
> >>> 08 JK Rubicon
> >>> 04 TJ Rubicon
> >>> 02 TJ X
> >>> 00 TJ Sport
> >>> (I've handed them down to my boys :-)

>
> >>A local JK owner put 33's on it with just a budget boost and it worked
> >>out very well.

>
> > Just remeber that bigger tires like this reduce your effective pulling
> > power with stock axle ratios and reduce brake too do to increased tire
> > mass and leverage over brakes. There is no free lunch here. Keep this
> > in mind.
> > -----------------
> > TheSnoMan.com- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


They come stock with 32 inch tires stock so 33 inch will probably not
affect things too much.


ULB 11-08-2007 03:18 PM

Re: Larger Tires on JK
 
On Nov 8, 10:37 am, "Fred Garvin" <Fga...@mail.com> wrote:
> Hmmm. So I have a couple of large jet skiies that I pull. Could be a
> noticable issue?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Fred"SnoMan" <ad...@snoman.com> wrote in message
>


I have an 05 rubicon I lifted and put on 33's. When I pull a little
14 foot flat skiff maybe 300 lbs, with a trailer (don't know how much
it weighs, but is is overbuilt), I have a much harder time stopping.
It certainly doesn't brake like it did with 31's. But it is liveable,
just allow ample stopping room.



ULB 11-08-2007 03:18 PM

Re: Larger Tires on JK
 
On Nov 8, 10:37 am, "Fred Garvin" <Fga...@mail.com> wrote:
> Hmmm. So I have a couple of large jet skiies that I pull. Could be a
> noticable issue?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Fred"SnoMan" <ad...@snoman.com> wrote in message
>


I have an 05 rubicon I lifted and put on 33's. When I pull a little
14 foot flat skiff maybe 300 lbs, with a trailer (don't know how much
it weighs, but is is overbuilt), I have a much harder time stopping.
It certainly doesn't brake like it did with 31's. But it is liveable,
just allow ample stopping room.



ULB 11-08-2007 03:18 PM

Re: Larger Tires on JK
 
On Nov 8, 10:37 am, "Fred Garvin" <Fga...@mail.com> wrote:
> Hmmm. So I have a couple of large jet skiies that I pull. Could be a
> noticable issue?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Fred"SnoMan" <ad...@snoman.com> wrote in message
>


I have an 05 rubicon I lifted and put on 33's. When I pull a little
14 foot flat skiff maybe 300 lbs, with a trailer (don't know how much
it weighs, but is is overbuilt), I have a much harder time stopping.
It certainly doesn't brake like it did with 31's. But it is liveable,
just allow ample stopping room.



SnoMan 11-09-2007 10:13 AM

Re: Re: Re: Larger Tires on JK
 
On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 12:37:39 -0600, "Fred Garvin" <Fgarin@mail.com>
wrote:

>Hmmm. So I have a couple of large jet skiies that I pull. Could be a
>noticable issue?



It could very well be. If it has limited resever power for you towing
needs now, it will get worse and as I said braking will be reduced a
bit too. The only way you can honestly maintian same pulling power
with bigger tires is a axle ratio change which can be expensive but it
does restore your overall effective drive ratio when using bigger
tires. Some think they can tune this out with a exhaust of air filter
but you cannot as it deals with simple physics and mechanical advange
over the load and more engine torque is require for same ground
tractive effort. ALso remember that this "power loss" will be felt in
all gears including starting a load out on boat ramp so you know where
you are now performance wise and simply understand the towing
performance will degrade with bigger tires. How much of a issue this
is for you again depends on "where" you are at now in the towing
performance curve with your load. Another way to look at this, if you
install bigger tires with stock axle gears, it has the same net effect
as taller axle gears with stock tires or a net loss of effective
pulling power in every gear due to a taller overall effective final
drive ratio.
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