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Paul Tremblay Apr 9, 2004 09:45 AM

Just bought 1995 GC LTD 4.0L Few Newbie questions
 
Hi All,
Just joined the Jeep Family,
First question, The Message Center (bottom of Center Console) keeps
reverting to 0:00 time and SUN 1 JAN after a day of running, it does not
lose the "Miles to service" info though. any advice on how to fix? Haynes
manual does not mention it.
2. The Climate Control system. The heater heats to a certain point (20C)
then stabilises no matter how high I turn it it does not increase. Could it
be the Thermostat? The AC does not cool either. ( I will be recharging it
with freon today).
3. There is an intermittent Clicking sound (loud plasticky click)coming from
the Glove compartment area. at a few minute intervals. Any clue as to what
it could be?

4. I also noticed that the driver's side Carpet is wet, and does not smell
like antifreeze, I am stumped on that.

The car has 140000KM and was leaking oil from the valave cover gasket, and a
little oil in the air filter, so I changed the CCV valve and the gasket, so
all is well there. it runs beautifully !!!

Looking forward to learning more about my ZJ and what fun I can have with
it.

Thanks,

Paul

1995 GC Limited 4.0L



Cherokee-LTD Apr 9, 2004 03:59 PM

Re: Just bought 1995 GC LTD 4.0L Few Newbie questions
 
Welcome Paul, can't help you with any of your ZJ questions but you may want
to investigate a windshield leak for the wet carpet.
DougW is a ZJ owner in this group and will probably be your new best friend
for technical advice!
-Brian

"Paul Tremblay" <nospam@emtae.org> wrote in message
news:SNxdc.25457$ih4.799222@wagner.videotron.net.. .
: Hi All,
: Just joined the Jeep Family,
: First question, The Message Center (bottom of Center Console) keeps
: reverting to 0:00 time and SUN 1 JAN after a day of running, it does not
: lose the "Miles to service" info though. any advice on how to fix? Haynes
: manual does not mention it.
: 2. The Climate Control system. The heater heats to a certain point (20C)
: then stabilises no matter how high I turn it it does not increase. Could
it
: be the Thermostat? The AC does not cool either. ( I will be recharging it
: with freon today).
: 3. There is an intermittent Clicking sound (loud plasticky click)coming
from
: the Glove compartment area. at a few minute intervals. Any clue as to what
: it could be?
:
: 4. I also noticed that the driver's side Carpet is wet, and does not smell
: like antifreeze, I am stumped on that.
:
: The car has 140000KM and was leaking oil from the valave cover gasket, and
a
: little oil in the air filter, so I changed the CCV valve and the gasket,
so
: all is well there. it runs beautifully !!!
:
: Looking forward to learning more about my ZJ and what fun I can have with
: it.
:
: Thanks,
:
: Paul
:
: 1995 GC Limited 4.0L
:
:



Cherokee-LTD Apr 9, 2004 03:59 PM

Re: Just bought 1995 GC LTD 4.0L Few Newbie questions
 
Welcome Paul, can't help you with any of your ZJ questions but you may want
to investigate a windshield leak for the wet carpet.
DougW is a ZJ owner in this group and will probably be your new best friend
for technical advice!
-Brian

"Paul Tremblay" <nospam@emtae.org> wrote in message
news:SNxdc.25457$ih4.799222@wagner.videotron.net.. .
: Hi All,
: Just joined the Jeep Family,
: First question, The Message Center (bottom of Center Console) keeps
: reverting to 0:00 time and SUN 1 JAN after a day of running, it does not
: lose the "Miles to service" info though. any advice on how to fix? Haynes
: manual does not mention it.
: 2. The Climate Control system. The heater heats to a certain point (20C)
: then stabilises no matter how high I turn it it does not increase. Could
it
: be the Thermostat? The AC does not cool either. ( I will be recharging it
: with freon today).
: 3. There is an intermittent Clicking sound (loud plasticky click)coming
from
: the Glove compartment area. at a few minute intervals. Any clue as to what
: it could be?
:
: 4. I also noticed that the driver's side Carpet is wet, and does not smell
: like antifreeze, I am stumped on that.
:
: The car has 140000KM and was leaking oil from the valave cover gasket, and
a
: little oil in the air filter, so I changed the CCV valve and the gasket,
so
: all is well there. it runs beautifully !!!
:
: Looking forward to learning more about my ZJ and what fun I can have with
: it.
:
: Thanks,
:
: Paul
:
: 1995 GC Limited 4.0L
:
:



Cherokee-LTD Apr 9, 2004 03:59 PM

Re: Just bought 1995 GC LTD 4.0L Few Newbie questions
 
Welcome Paul, can't help you with any of your ZJ questions but you may want
to investigate a windshield leak for the wet carpet.
DougW is a ZJ owner in this group and will probably be your new best friend
for technical advice!
-Brian

"Paul Tremblay" <nospam@emtae.org> wrote in message
news:SNxdc.25457$ih4.799222@wagner.videotron.net.. .
: Hi All,
: Just joined the Jeep Family,
: First question, The Message Center (bottom of Center Console) keeps
: reverting to 0:00 time and SUN 1 JAN after a day of running, it does not
: lose the "Miles to service" info though. any advice on how to fix? Haynes
: manual does not mention it.
: 2. The Climate Control system. The heater heats to a certain point (20C)
: then stabilises no matter how high I turn it it does not increase. Could
it
: be the Thermostat? The AC does not cool either. ( I will be recharging it
: with freon today).
: 3. There is an intermittent Clicking sound (loud plasticky click)coming
from
: the Glove compartment area. at a few minute intervals. Any clue as to what
: it could be?
:
: 4. I also noticed that the driver's side Carpet is wet, and does not smell
: like antifreeze, I am stumped on that.
:
: The car has 140000KM and was leaking oil from the valave cover gasket, and
a
: little oil in the air filter, so I changed the CCV valve and the gasket,
so
: all is well there. it runs beautifully !!!
:
: Looking forward to learning more about my ZJ and what fun I can have with
: it.
:
: Thanks,
:
: Paul
:
: 1995 GC Limited 4.0L
:
:



Cherokee-LTD Apr 9, 2004 03:59 PM

Re: Just bought 1995 GC LTD 4.0L Few Newbie questions
 
Welcome Paul, can't help you with any of your ZJ questions but you may want
to investigate a windshield leak for the wet carpet.
DougW is a ZJ owner in this group and will probably be your new best friend
for technical advice!
-Brian

"Paul Tremblay" <nospam@emtae.org> wrote in message
news:SNxdc.25457$ih4.799222@wagner.videotron.net.. .
: Hi All,
: Just joined the Jeep Family,
: First question, The Message Center (bottom of Center Console) keeps
: reverting to 0:00 time and SUN 1 JAN after a day of running, it does not
: lose the "Miles to service" info though. any advice on how to fix? Haynes
: manual does not mention it.
: 2. The Climate Control system. The heater heats to a certain point (20C)
: then stabilises no matter how high I turn it it does not increase. Could
it
: be the Thermostat? The AC does not cool either. ( I will be recharging it
: with freon today).
: 3. There is an intermittent Clicking sound (loud plasticky click)coming
from
: the Glove compartment area. at a few minute intervals. Any clue as to what
: it could be?
:
: 4. I also noticed that the driver's side Carpet is wet, and does not smell
: like antifreeze, I am stumped on that.
:
: The car has 140000KM and was leaking oil from the valave cover gasket, and
a
: little oil in the air filter, so I changed the CCV valve and the gasket,
so
: all is well there. it runs beautifully !!!
:
: Looking forward to learning more about my ZJ and what fun I can have with
: it.
:
: Thanks,
:
: Paul
:
: 1995 GC Limited 4.0L
:
:



DougW Apr 10, 2004 01:16 AM

Re: Just bought 1995 GC LTD 4.0L Few Newbie questions
 
Cherokee-LTD did pass the time by typing:
> Welcome Paul, can't help you with any of your ZJ questions but you may want
> to investigate a windshield leak for the wet carpet.
> DougW is a ZJ owner in this group and will probably be your new best friend
> for technical advice!


Yep.. I'm just full of ... er.. information, yea.

sleepy sleepy.

> "Paul Tremblay" wrote ...
>> Hi All,
>> Just joined the Jeep Family,
>> First question, The Message Center (bottom of Center Console) keeps
>> reverting to 0:00 time and SUN 1 JAN after a day of running, it does not
>> lose the "Miles to service" info though. any advice on how to fix? Haynes
>> manual does not mention it.


First off, go get the Jeep Service Manual, expensive but invaluable.

Sounds like a bad connector or possible internal error. Run the VIC diagnositcs.
Press SET and SELECT at the same time and hold them down.
Turn the ignition to ON. (yes, it helps to have three hands)

if it says MODULE FAILURE then something internal is bad.

If not it will beep 6 times and flash all the lamps so you can check them.

After this stops (or anytime), press SELECT and the VIC will test all
the sensor and report any problems

You shold eventually see MODULE VERSION ___ note that number.

To exit tests just turn the ignition OFF.

Also check with Jeep to see if there was a Y2K or bugfix for the VIC.


>> 2. The Climate Control system. The heater heats to a certain point (20C)
>> then stabilises no matter how high I turn it it does not increase. Could it
>> be the Thermostat? The AC does not cool either. ( I will be recharging it
>> with freon today).


R134a, and don't just dump coolant in there, get the proper tool to deterimine
if the level is low and that you have a proper charge. The tool is much cheaper
than a blown system.

>> 3. There is an intermittent Clicking sound (loud plasticky click)coming from
>> the Glove compartment area. at a few minute intervals. Any clue as to what
>> it could be?


Under the pannel in the glove box is a relay center for

-----------(hood side)-----------------
Security relay | Door lock relay | | Power antenna relay | Horn Relay
| Door unlock relay | | Heated rear window | Illuminated entry

>> 4. I also noticed that the driver's side Carpet is wet, and does not smell
>> like antifreeze, I am stumped on that.


Your drain line for the A/C condenser is plugged.
The dealership has a TSB for this.
http://members.cox.net/wilsond/Fixes/acdrip.html

>> The car has 140000KM and was leaking oil from the valave cover gasket, and a
>> little oil in the air filter, so I changed the CCV valve and the gasket, so
>> all is well there. it runs beautifully !!!


Sounds great.

>> Looking forward to learning more about my ZJ and what fun I can have with
>> it.


Welcome to the group.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors



DougW Apr 10, 2004 01:16 AM

Re: Just bought 1995 GC LTD 4.0L Few Newbie questions
 
Cherokee-LTD did pass the time by typing:
> Welcome Paul, can't help you with any of your ZJ questions but you may want
> to investigate a windshield leak for the wet carpet.
> DougW is a ZJ owner in this group and will probably be your new best friend
> for technical advice!


Yep.. I'm just full of ... er.. information, yea.

sleepy sleepy.

> "Paul Tremblay" wrote ...
>> Hi All,
>> Just joined the Jeep Family,
>> First question, The Message Center (bottom of Center Console) keeps
>> reverting to 0:00 time and SUN 1 JAN after a day of running, it does not
>> lose the "Miles to service" info though. any advice on how to fix? Haynes
>> manual does not mention it.


First off, go get the Jeep Service Manual, expensive but invaluable.

Sounds like a bad connector or possible internal error. Run the VIC diagnositcs.
Press SET and SELECT at the same time and hold them down.
Turn the ignition to ON. (yes, it helps to have three hands)

if it says MODULE FAILURE then something internal is bad.

If not it will beep 6 times and flash all the lamps so you can check them.

After this stops (or anytime), press SELECT and the VIC will test all
the sensor and report any problems

You shold eventually see MODULE VERSION ___ note that number.

To exit tests just turn the ignition OFF.

Also check with Jeep to see if there was a Y2K or bugfix for the VIC.


>> 2. The Climate Control system. The heater heats to a certain point (20C)
>> then stabilises no matter how high I turn it it does not increase. Could it
>> be the Thermostat? The AC does not cool either. ( I will be recharging it
>> with freon today).


R134a, and don't just dump coolant in there, get the proper tool to deterimine
if the level is low and that you have a proper charge. The tool is much cheaper
than a blown system.

>> 3. There is an intermittent Clicking sound (loud plasticky click)coming from
>> the Glove compartment area. at a few minute intervals. Any clue as to what
>> it could be?


Under the pannel in the glove box is a relay center for

-----------(hood side)-----------------
Security relay | Door lock relay | | Power antenna relay | Horn Relay
| Door unlock relay | | Heated rear window | Illuminated entry

>> 4. I also noticed that the driver's side Carpet is wet, and does not smell
>> like antifreeze, I am stumped on that.


Your drain line for the A/C condenser is plugged.
The dealership has a TSB for this.
http://members.cox.net/wilsond/Fixes/acdrip.html

>> The car has 140000KM and was leaking oil from the valave cover gasket, and a
>> little oil in the air filter, so I changed the CCV valve and the gasket, so
>> all is well there. it runs beautifully !!!


Sounds great.

>> Looking forward to learning more about my ZJ and what fun I can have with
>> it.


Welcome to the group.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors



DougW Apr 10, 2004 01:16 AM

Re: Just bought 1995 GC LTD 4.0L Few Newbie questions
 
Cherokee-LTD did pass the time by typing:
> Welcome Paul, can't help you with any of your ZJ questions but you may want
> to investigate a windshield leak for the wet carpet.
> DougW is a ZJ owner in this group and will probably be your new best friend
> for technical advice!


Yep.. I'm just full of ... er.. information, yea.

sleepy sleepy.

> "Paul Tremblay" wrote ...
>> Hi All,
>> Just joined the Jeep Family,
>> First question, The Message Center (bottom of Center Console) keeps
>> reverting to 0:00 time and SUN 1 JAN after a day of running, it does not
>> lose the "Miles to service" info though. any advice on how to fix? Haynes
>> manual does not mention it.


First off, go get the Jeep Service Manual, expensive but invaluable.

Sounds like a bad connector or possible internal error. Run the VIC diagnositcs.
Press SET and SELECT at the same time and hold them down.
Turn the ignition to ON. (yes, it helps to have three hands)

if it says MODULE FAILURE then something internal is bad.

If not it will beep 6 times and flash all the lamps so you can check them.

After this stops (or anytime), press SELECT and the VIC will test all
the sensor and report any problems

You shold eventually see MODULE VERSION ___ note that number.

To exit tests just turn the ignition OFF.

Also check with Jeep to see if there was a Y2K or bugfix for the VIC.


>> 2. The Climate Control system. The heater heats to a certain point (20C)
>> then stabilises no matter how high I turn it it does not increase. Could it
>> be the Thermostat? The AC does not cool either. ( I will be recharging it
>> with freon today).


R134a, and don't just dump coolant in there, get the proper tool to deterimine
if the level is low and that you have a proper charge. The tool is much cheaper
than a blown system.

>> 3. There is an intermittent Clicking sound (loud plasticky click)coming from
>> the Glove compartment area. at a few minute intervals. Any clue as to what
>> it could be?


Under the pannel in the glove box is a relay center for

-----------(hood side)-----------------
Security relay | Door lock relay | | Power antenna relay | Horn Relay
| Door unlock relay | | Heated rear window | Illuminated entry

>> 4. I also noticed that the driver's side Carpet is wet, and does not smell
>> like antifreeze, I am stumped on that.


Your drain line for the A/C condenser is plugged.
The dealership has a TSB for this.
http://members.cox.net/wilsond/Fixes/acdrip.html

>> The car has 140000KM and was leaking oil from the valave cover gasket, and a
>> little oil in the air filter, so I changed the CCV valve and the gasket, so
>> all is well there. it runs beautifully !!!


Sounds great.

>> Looking forward to learning more about my ZJ and what fun I can have with
>> it.


Welcome to the group.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors



DougW Apr 10, 2004 01:16 AM

Re: Just bought 1995 GC LTD 4.0L Few Newbie questions
 
Cherokee-LTD did pass the time by typing:
> Welcome Paul, can't help you with any of your ZJ questions but you may want
> to investigate a windshield leak for the wet carpet.
> DougW is a ZJ owner in this group and will probably be your new best friend
> for technical advice!


Yep.. I'm just full of ... er.. information, yea.

sleepy sleepy.

> "Paul Tremblay" wrote ...
>> Hi All,
>> Just joined the Jeep Family,
>> First question, The Message Center (bottom of Center Console) keeps
>> reverting to 0:00 time and SUN 1 JAN after a day of running, it does not
>> lose the "Miles to service" info though. any advice on how to fix? Haynes
>> manual does not mention it.


First off, go get the Jeep Service Manual, expensive but invaluable.

Sounds like a bad connector or possible internal error. Run the VIC diagnositcs.
Press SET and SELECT at the same time and hold them down.
Turn the ignition to ON. (yes, it helps to have three hands)

if it says MODULE FAILURE then something internal is bad.

If not it will beep 6 times and flash all the lamps so you can check them.

After this stops (or anytime), press SELECT and the VIC will test all
the sensor and report any problems

You shold eventually see MODULE VERSION ___ note that number.

To exit tests just turn the ignition OFF.

Also check with Jeep to see if there was a Y2K or bugfix for the VIC.


>> 2. The Climate Control system. The heater heats to a certain point (20C)
>> then stabilises no matter how high I turn it it does not increase. Could it
>> be the Thermostat? The AC does not cool either. ( I will be recharging it
>> with freon today).


R134a, and don't just dump coolant in there, get the proper tool to deterimine
if the level is low and that you have a proper charge. The tool is much cheaper
than a blown system.

>> 3. There is an intermittent Clicking sound (loud plasticky click)coming from
>> the Glove compartment area. at a few minute intervals. Any clue as to what
>> it could be?


Under the pannel in the glove box is a relay center for

-----------(hood side)-----------------
Security relay | Door lock relay | | Power antenna relay | Horn Relay
| Door unlock relay | | Heated rear window | Illuminated entry

>> 4. I also noticed that the driver's side Carpet is wet, and does not smell
>> like antifreeze, I am stumped on that.


Your drain line for the A/C condenser is plugged.
The dealership has a TSB for this.
http://members.cox.net/wilsond/Fixes/acdrip.html

>> The car has 140000KM and was leaking oil from the valave cover gasket, and a
>> little oil in the air filter, so I changed the CCV valve and the gasket, so
>> all is well there. it runs beautifully !!!


Sounds great.

>> Looking forward to learning more about my ZJ and what fun I can have with
>> it.


Welcome to the group.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors



DougW Apr 10, 2004 01:22 PM

Re: Just bought 1995 GC LTD 4.0L Few Newbie questions
 
DougW did pass the time by typing:

>> "Paul Tremblay" wrote ...


>>> 3. There is an intermittent Clicking sound (loud plasticky click)coming from
>>> the Glove compartment area. at a few minute intervals. Any clue as to what
>>> it could be?

>
> Under the pannel in the glove box is a relay center for
>
> -----------(hood side)-----------------
> Security relay | Door lock relay | | Power antenna relay | Horn Relay
> | Door unlock relay | | Heated rear window | Illuminated entry


Oh.. and down by the A/C is the fan relay.

Noise is hard to trace. Even if you absolutely know it's coming from someplace
it may be coming from someplace else. I spent about an hour tracking down a small
buzz just to discover it was the button on my winter jacket that was hanging on
the back seat. :)

--
DougW




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