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Rushfn1 11-01-2003 09:06 AM

"Jeeps" in Greece
 
So my wife and I were on three weeks vacation this past September on the
islands of Santorini and Milos and I saw some strange sights: the Jeep Liberty
model with the "Cherokee" nameplate on it... I saw this several times in
Athens too.

Someone had the gall to put a Jeep tire cover on the rear tire of their Toyota
whatereveritwas... It was so disturbing to me I took a picture of it.

Seems almost everyone calls their 4x4 a "jeep." Samuris are popular there.
One of my wife's best friends there has the Grand Vitara (not so grand); she
calls it her Jeep. I brought a pic of my '02 TJ and said to her, "No, *this*
is a Jeep."

Next year in Greece we'll be renting a 4x4 (hopefully a real Jeep) so we'll be
able to explore a lot more... Having the Wrangler in Mexico was GREAT, plus,
the roads there are horrendous. Getting around was a lot easier and much more
fun in the 4 cylinder, half-doored TJ.

Dave in NY
2002 TJ
Straight Six
Dana 44 rear
3.73s
Raingler netting

twaldron 11-01-2003 09:19 AM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
The Libby was marketed as a Cherokee pretty much everywhere but the
US...either that, or the 'new' Cherokee was marketed as a Libby in the
US...maybe they knew there would be a revolt if they called that thing a
Cherokee in the US.

Rushfn1 wrote:

> So my wife and I were on three weeks vacation this past September on the
> islands of Santorini and Milos and I saw some strange sights: the Jeep Liberty
> model with the "Cherokee" nameplate on it... I saw this several times in
> Athens too.
>
> Someone had the gall to put a Jeep tire cover on the rear tire of their Toyota
> whatereveritwas... It was so disturbing to me I took a picture of it.
>
> Seems almost everyone calls their 4x4 a "jeep." Samuris are popular there.
> One of my wife's best friends there has the Grand Vitara (not so grand); she
> calls it her Jeep. I brought a pic of my '02 TJ and said to her, "No, *this*
> is a Jeep."
>
> Next year in Greece we'll be renting a 4x4 (hopefully a real Jeep) so we'll be
> able to explore a lot more... Having the Wrangler in Mexico was GREAT, plus,
> the roads there are horrendous. Getting around was a lot easier and much more
> fun in the 4 cylinder, half-doored TJ.
>
> Dave in NY
> 2002 TJ
> Straight Six
> Dana 44 rear
> 3.73s
> Raingler netting


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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twaldron 11-01-2003 09:19 AM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
The Libby was marketed as a Cherokee pretty much everywhere but the
US...either that, or the 'new' Cherokee was marketed as a Libby in the
US...maybe they knew there would be a revolt if they called that thing a
Cherokee in the US.

Rushfn1 wrote:

> So my wife and I were on three weeks vacation this past September on the
> islands of Santorini and Milos and I saw some strange sights: the Jeep Liberty
> model with the "Cherokee" nameplate on it... I saw this several times in
> Athens too.
>
> Someone had the gall to put a Jeep tire cover on the rear tire of their Toyota
> whatereveritwas... It was so disturbing to me I took a picture of it.
>
> Seems almost everyone calls their 4x4 a "jeep." Samuris are popular there.
> One of my wife's best friends there has the Grand Vitara (not so grand); she
> calls it her Jeep. I brought a pic of my '02 TJ and said to her, "No, *this*
> is a Jeep."
>
> Next year in Greece we'll be renting a 4x4 (hopefully a real Jeep) so we'll be
> able to explore a lot more... Having the Wrangler in Mexico was GREAT, plus,
> the roads there are horrendous. Getting around was a lot easier and much more
> fun in the 4 cylinder, half-doored TJ.
>
> Dave in NY
> 2002 TJ
> Straight Six
> Dana 44 rear
> 3.73s
> Raingler netting


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 11-01-2003 09:19 AM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
The Libby was marketed as a Cherokee pretty much everywhere but the
US...either that, or the 'new' Cherokee was marketed as a Libby in the
US...maybe they knew there would be a revolt if they called that thing a
Cherokee in the US.

Rushfn1 wrote:

> So my wife and I were on three weeks vacation this past September on the
> islands of Santorini and Milos and I saw some strange sights: the Jeep Liberty
> model with the "Cherokee" nameplate on it... I saw this several times in
> Athens too.
>
> Someone had the gall to put a Jeep tire cover on the rear tire of their Toyota
> whatereveritwas... It was so disturbing to me I took a picture of it.
>
> Seems almost everyone calls their 4x4 a "jeep." Samuris are popular there.
> One of my wife's best friends there has the Grand Vitara (not so grand); she
> calls it her Jeep. I brought a pic of my '02 TJ and said to her, "No, *this*
> is a Jeep."
>
> Next year in Greece we'll be renting a 4x4 (hopefully a real Jeep) so we'll be
> able to explore a lot more... Having the Wrangler in Mexico was GREAT, plus,
> the roads there are horrendous. Getting around was a lot easier and much more
> fun in the 4 cylinder, half-doored TJ.
>
> Dave in NY
> 2002 TJ
> Straight Six
> Dana 44 rear
> 3.73s
> Raingler netting


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


Thom 11-01-2003 02:05 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
I never really understood the Libby stories in this group, never saw a Libby
in the Netherlands, just the new Cherokee ;-)
And yes, it is a real "problem" everybody over here calls their 4x4 a
"jeep". When I tell someone I have a Jeep, they ask, "yeah, cool, what kind,
a Suzuki?". Glad for them I'm too civilized to give them the four knuckle
treatment on the spot. And when I tell it's a Jeep CJ7, they get the same
facial expression you see on goldfish. Only when I say Renegade, they know
what kind of vehicle I'm talking about, but for me the conversation is over.

Thom.

"Rushfn1" <rushfn1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031101090616.05579.00000095@mb-m26.aol.com...
> So my wife and I were on three weeks vacation this past September on the
> islands of Santorini and Milos and I saw some strange sights: the Jeep

Liberty
> model with the "Cherokee" nameplate on it... I saw this several times in
> Athens too.
>
> Someone had the gall to put a Jeep tire cover on the rear tire of their

Toyota
> whatereveritwas... It was so disturbing to me I took a picture of it.
>
> Seems almost everyone calls their 4x4 a "jeep." Samuris are popular

there.
> One of my wife's best friends there has the Grand Vitara (not so grand);

she
> calls it her Jeep. I brought a pic of my '02 TJ and said to her, "No,

*this*
> is a Jeep."
>
> Next year in Greece we'll be renting a 4x4 (hopefully a real Jeep) so

we'll be
> able to explore a lot more... Having the Wrangler in Mexico was GREAT,

plus,
> the roads there are horrendous. Getting around was a lot easier and much

more
> fun in the 4 cylinder, half-doored TJ.
>
> Dave in NY
> 2002 TJ
> Straight Six
> Dana 44 rear
> 3.73s
> Raingler netting




Thom 11-01-2003 02:05 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
I never really understood the Libby stories in this group, never saw a Libby
in the Netherlands, just the new Cherokee ;-)
And yes, it is a real "problem" everybody over here calls their 4x4 a
"jeep". When I tell someone I have a Jeep, they ask, "yeah, cool, what kind,
a Suzuki?". Glad for them I'm too civilized to give them the four knuckle
treatment on the spot. And when I tell it's a Jeep CJ7, they get the same
facial expression you see on goldfish. Only when I say Renegade, they know
what kind of vehicle I'm talking about, but for me the conversation is over.

Thom.

"Rushfn1" <rushfn1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031101090616.05579.00000095@mb-m26.aol.com...
> So my wife and I were on three weeks vacation this past September on the
> islands of Santorini and Milos and I saw some strange sights: the Jeep

Liberty
> model with the "Cherokee" nameplate on it... I saw this several times in
> Athens too.
>
> Someone had the gall to put a Jeep tire cover on the rear tire of their

Toyota
> whatereveritwas... It was so disturbing to me I took a picture of it.
>
> Seems almost everyone calls their 4x4 a "jeep." Samuris are popular

there.
> One of my wife's best friends there has the Grand Vitara (not so grand);

she
> calls it her Jeep. I brought a pic of my '02 TJ and said to her, "No,

*this*
> is a Jeep."
>
> Next year in Greece we'll be renting a 4x4 (hopefully a real Jeep) so

we'll be
> able to explore a lot more... Having the Wrangler in Mexico was GREAT,

plus,
> the roads there are horrendous. Getting around was a lot easier and much

more
> fun in the 4 cylinder, half-doored TJ.
>
> Dave in NY
> 2002 TJ
> Straight Six
> Dana 44 rear
> 3.73s
> Raingler netting




Thom 11-01-2003 02:05 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
I never really understood the Libby stories in this group, never saw a Libby
in the Netherlands, just the new Cherokee ;-)
And yes, it is a real "problem" everybody over here calls their 4x4 a
"jeep". When I tell someone I have a Jeep, they ask, "yeah, cool, what kind,
a Suzuki?". Glad for them I'm too civilized to give them the four knuckle
treatment on the spot. And when I tell it's a Jeep CJ7, they get the same
facial expression you see on goldfish. Only when I say Renegade, they know
what kind of vehicle I'm talking about, but for me the conversation is over.

Thom.

"Rushfn1" <rushfn1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031101090616.05579.00000095@mb-m26.aol.com...
> So my wife and I were on three weeks vacation this past September on the
> islands of Santorini and Milos and I saw some strange sights: the Jeep

Liberty
> model with the "Cherokee" nameplate on it... I saw this several times in
> Athens too.
>
> Someone had the gall to put a Jeep tire cover on the rear tire of their

Toyota
> whatereveritwas... It was so disturbing to me I took a picture of it.
>
> Seems almost everyone calls their 4x4 a "jeep." Samuris are popular

there.
> One of my wife's best friends there has the Grand Vitara (not so grand);

she
> calls it her Jeep. I brought a pic of my '02 TJ and said to her, "No,

*this*
> is a Jeep."
>
> Next year in Greece we'll be renting a 4x4 (hopefully a real Jeep) so

we'll be
> able to explore a lot more... Having the Wrangler in Mexico was GREAT,

plus,
> the roads there are horrendous. Getting around was a lot easier and much

more
> fun in the 4 cylinder, half-doored TJ.
>
> Dave in NY
> 2002 TJ
> Straight Six
> Dana 44 rear
> 3.73s
> Raingler netting




Earle Horton 11-01-2003 02:31 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
So for you calling your vehicle by the "right" name is more important than
meeting people and making friends?

Earle

"Thom" <thomvis@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:3fa40318$0$6054$756600cd@news.cambrium.nl...
> I never really understood the Libby stories in this group, never saw a

Libby
> in the Netherlands, just the new Cherokee ;-)
> And yes, it is a real "problem" everybody over here calls their 4x4 a
> "jeep". When I tell someone I have a Jeep, they ask, "yeah, cool, what

kind,
> a Suzuki?". Glad for them I'm too civilized to give them the four knuckle
> treatment on the spot. And when I tell it's a Jeep CJ7, they get the same
> facial expression you see on goldfish. Only when I say Renegade, they know
> what kind of vehicle I'm talking about, but for me the conversation is

over.
>
> Thom.
>
> "Rushfn1" <rushfn1@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20031101090616.05579.00000095@mb-m26.aol.com...
> > So my wife and I were on three weeks vacation this past September on the
> > islands of Santorini and Milos and I saw some strange sights: the Jeep

> Liberty
> > model with the "Cherokee" nameplate on it... I saw this several times

in
> > Athens too.
> >
> > Someone had the gall to put a Jeep tire cover on the rear tire of their

> Toyota
> > whatereveritwas... It was so disturbing to me I took a picture of it.
> >
> > Seems almost everyone calls their 4x4 a "jeep." Samuris are popular

> there.
> > One of my wife's best friends there has the Grand Vitara (not so grand);

> she
> > calls it her Jeep. I brought a pic of my '02 TJ and said to her, "No,

> *this*
> > is a Jeep."
> >
> > Next year in Greece we'll be renting a 4x4 (hopefully a real Jeep) so

> we'll be
> > able to explore a lot more... Having the Wrangler in Mexico was GREAT,

> plus,
> > the roads there are horrendous. Getting around was a lot easier and

much
> more
> > fun in the 4 cylinder, half-doored TJ.
> >
> > Dave in NY
> > 2002 TJ
> > Straight Six
> > Dana 44 rear
> > 3.73s
> > Raingler netting

>
>




Earle Horton 11-01-2003 02:31 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
So for you calling your vehicle by the "right" name is more important than
meeting people and making friends?

Earle

"Thom" <thomvis@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:3fa40318$0$6054$756600cd@news.cambrium.nl...
> I never really understood the Libby stories in this group, never saw a

Libby
> in the Netherlands, just the new Cherokee ;-)
> And yes, it is a real "problem" everybody over here calls their 4x4 a
> "jeep". When I tell someone I have a Jeep, they ask, "yeah, cool, what

kind,
> a Suzuki?". Glad for them I'm too civilized to give them the four knuckle
> treatment on the spot. And when I tell it's a Jeep CJ7, they get the same
> facial expression you see on goldfish. Only when I say Renegade, they know
> what kind of vehicle I'm talking about, but for me the conversation is

over.
>
> Thom.
>
> "Rushfn1" <rushfn1@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20031101090616.05579.00000095@mb-m26.aol.com...
> > So my wife and I were on three weeks vacation this past September on the
> > islands of Santorini and Milos and I saw some strange sights: the Jeep

> Liberty
> > model with the "Cherokee" nameplate on it... I saw this several times

in
> > Athens too.
> >
> > Someone had the gall to put a Jeep tire cover on the rear tire of their

> Toyota
> > whatereveritwas... It was so disturbing to me I took a picture of it.
> >
> > Seems almost everyone calls their 4x4 a "jeep." Samuris are popular

> there.
> > One of my wife's best friends there has the Grand Vitara (not so grand);

> she
> > calls it her Jeep. I brought a pic of my '02 TJ and said to her, "No,

> *this*
> > is a Jeep."
> >
> > Next year in Greece we'll be renting a 4x4 (hopefully a real Jeep) so

> we'll be
> > able to explore a lot more... Having the Wrangler in Mexico was GREAT,

> plus,
> > the roads there are horrendous. Getting around was a lot easier and

much
> more
> > fun in the 4 cylinder, half-doored TJ.
> >
> > Dave in NY
> > 2002 TJ
> > Straight Six
> > Dana 44 rear
> > 3.73s
> > Raingler netting

>
>




Earle Horton 11-01-2003 02:31 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
So for you calling your vehicle by the "right" name is more important than
meeting people and making friends?

Earle

"Thom" <thomvis@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:3fa40318$0$6054$756600cd@news.cambrium.nl...
> I never really understood the Libby stories in this group, never saw a

Libby
> in the Netherlands, just the new Cherokee ;-)
> And yes, it is a real "problem" everybody over here calls their 4x4 a
> "jeep". When I tell someone I have a Jeep, they ask, "yeah, cool, what

kind,
> a Suzuki?". Glad for them I'm too civilized to give them the four knuckle
> treatment on the spot. And when I tell it's a Jeep CJ7, they get the same
> facial expression you see on goldfish. Only when I say Renegade, they know
> what kind of vehicle I'm talking about, but for me the conversation is

over.
>
> Thom.
>
> "Rushfn1" <rushfn1@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20031101090616.05579.00000095@mb-m26.aol.com...
> > So my wife and I were on three weeks vacation this past September on the
> > islands of Santorini and Milos and I saw some strange sights: the Jeep

> Liberty
> > model with the "Cherokee" nameplate on it... I saw this several times

in
> > Athens too.
> >
> > Someone had the gall to put a Jeep tire cover on the rear tire of their

> Toyota
> > whatereveritwas... It was so disturbing to me I took a picture of it.
> >
> > Seems almost everyone calls their 4x4 a "jeep." Samuris are popular

> there.
> > One of my wife's best friends there has the Grand Vitara (not so grand);

> she
> > calls it her Jeep. I brought a pic of my '02 TJ and said to her, "No,

> *this*
> > is a Jeep."
> >
> > Next year in Greece we'll be renting a 4x4 (hopefully a real Jeep) so

> we'll be
> > able to explore a lot more... Having the Wrangler in Mexico was GREAT,

> plus,
> > the roads there are horrendous. Getting around was a lot easier and

much
> more
> > fun in the 4 cylinder, half-doored TJ.
> >
> > Dave in NY
> > 2002 TJ
> > Straight Six
> > Dana 44 rear
> > 3.73s
> > Raingler netting

>
>




Thom 11-01-2003 02:35 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
For me it important that people listen an don't make assumptions. Those
people become my friends.

Thom.

"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bo11dk$16ft40$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> So for you calling your vehicle by the "right" name is more important than
> meeting people and making friends?
>
> Earle
>
> "Thom" <thomvis@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:3fa40318$0$6054$756600cd@news.cambrium.nl...
> > I never really understood the Libby stories in this group, never saw a

> Libby
> > in the Netherlands, just the new Cherokee ;-)
> > And yes, it is a real "problem" everybody over here calls their 4x4 a
> > "jeep". When I tell someone I have a Jeep, they ask, "yeah, cool, what

> kind,
> > a Suzuki?". Glad for them I'm too civilized to give them the four

knuckle
> > treatment on the spot. And when I tell it's a Jeep CJ7, they get the

same
> > facial expression you see on goldfish. Only when I say Renegade, they

know
> > what kind of vehicle I'm talking about, but for me the conversation is

> over.
> >
> > Thom.
> >
> > "Rushfn1" <rushfn1@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20031101090616.05579.00000095@mb-m26.aol.com...
> > > So my wife and I were on three weeks vacation this past September on

the
> > > islands of Santorini and Milos and I saw some strange sights: the Jeep

> > Liberty
> > > model with the "Cherokee" nameplate on it... I saw this several times

> in
> > > Athens too.
> > >
> > > Someone had the gall to put a Jeep tire cover on the rear tire of

their
> > Toyota
> > > whatereveritwas... It was so disturbing to me I took a picture of it.
> > >
> > > Seems almost everyone calls their 4x4 a "jeep." Samuris are popular

> > there.
> > > One of my wife's best friends there has the Grand Vitara (not so

grand);
> > she
> > > calls it her Jeep. I brought a pic of my '02 TJ and said to her, "No,

> > *this*
> > > is a Jeep."
> > >
> > > Next year in Greece we'll be renting a 4x4 (hopefully a real Jeep) so

> > we'll be
> > > able to explore a lot more... Having the Wrangler in Mexico was GREAT,

> > plus,
> > > the roads there are horrendous. Getting around was a lot easier and

> much
> > more
> > > fun in the 4 cylinder, half-doored TJ.
> > >
> > > Dave in NY
> > > 2002 TJ
> > > Straight Six
> > > Dana 44 rear
> > > 3.73s
> > > Raingler netting

> >
> >

>
>




Thom 11-01-2003 02:35 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
For me it important that people listen an don't make assumptions. Those
people become my friends.

Thom.

"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bo11dk$16ft40$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> So for you calling your vehicle by the "right" name is more important than
> meeting people and making friends?
>
> Earle
>
> "Thom" <thomvis@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:3fa40318$0$6054$756600cd@news.cambrium.nl...
> > I never really understood the Libby stories in this group, never saw a

> Libby
> > in the Netherlands, just the new Cherokee ;-)
> > And yes, it is a real "problem" everybody over here calls their 4x4 a
> > "jeep". When I tell someone I have a Jeep, they ask, "yeah, cool, what

> kind,
> > a Suzuki?". Glad for them I'm too civilized to give them the four

knuckle
> > treatment on the spot. And when I tell it's a Jeep CJ7, they get the

same
> > facial expression you see on goldfish. Only when I say Renegade, they

know
> > what kind of vehicle I'm talking about, but for me the conversation is

> over.
> >
> > Thom.
> >
> > "Rushfn1" <rushfn1@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20031101090616.05579.00000095@mb-m26.aol.com...
> > > So my wife and I were on three weeks vacation this past September on

the
> > > islands of Santorini and Milos and I saw some strange sights: the Jeep

> > Liberty
> > > model with the "Cherokee" nameplate on it... I saw this several times

> in
> > > Athens too.
> > >
> > > Someone had the gall to put a Jeep tire cover on the rear tire of

their
> > Toyota
> > > whatereveritwas... It was so disturbing to me I took a picture of it.
> > >
> > > Seems almost everyone calls their 4x4 a "jeep." Samuris are popular

> > there.
> > > One of my wife's best friends there has the Grand Vitara (not so

grand);
> > she
> > > calls it her Jeep. I brought a pic of my '02 TJ and said to her, "No,

> > *this*
> > > is a Jeep."
> > >
> > > Next year in Greece we'll be renting a 4x4 (hopefully a real Jeep) so

> > we'll be
> > > able to explore a lot more... Having the Wrangler in Mexico was GREAT,

> > plus,
> > > the roads there are horrendous. Getting around was a lot easier and

> much
> > more
> > > fun in the 4 cylinder, half-doored TJ.
> > >
> > > Dave in NY
> > > 2002 TJ
> > > Straight Six
> > > Dana 44 rear
> > > 3.73s
> > > Raingler netting

> >
> >

>
>




Thom 11-01-2003 02:35 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
For me it important that people listen an don't make assumptions. Those
people become my friends.

Thom.

"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bo11dk$16ft40$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> So for you calling your vehicle by the "right" name is more important than
> meeting people and making friends?
>
> Earle
>
> "Thom" <thomvis@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:3fa40318$0$6054$756600cd@news.cambrium.nl...
> > I never really understood the Libby stories in this group, never saw a

> Libby
> > in the Netherlands, just the new Cherokee ;-)
> > And yes, it is a real "problem" everybody over here calls their 4x4 a
> > "jeep". When I tell someone I have a Jeep, they ask, "yeah, cool, what

> kind,
> > a Suzuki?". Glad for them I'm too civilized to give them the four

knuckle
> > treatment on the spot. And when I tell it's a Jeep CJ7, they get the

same
> > facial expression you see on goldfish. Only when I say Renegade, they

know
> > what kind of vehicle I'm talking about, but for me the conversation is

> over.
> >
> > Thom.
> >
> > "Rushfn1" <rushfn1@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20031101090616.05579.00000095@mb-m26.aol.com...
> > > So my wife and I were on three weeks vacation this past September on

the
> > > islands of Santorini and Milos and I saw some strange sights: the Jeep

> > Liberty
> > > model with the "Cherokee" nameplate on it... I saw this several times

> in
> > > Athens too.
> > >
> > > Someone had the gall to put a Jeep tire cover on the rear tire of

their
> > Toyota
> > > whatereveritwas... It was so disturbing to me I took a picture of it.
> > >
> > > Seems almost everyone calls their 4x4 a "jeep." Samuris are popular

> > there.
> > > One of my wife's best friends there has the Grand Vitara (not so

grand);
> > she
> > > calls it her Jeep. I brought a pic of my '02 TJ and said to her, "No,

> > *this*
> > > is a Jeep."
> > >
> > > Next year in Greece we'll be renting a 4x4 (hopefully a real Jeep) so

> > we'll be
> > > able to explore a lot more... Having the Wrangler in Mexico was GREAT,

> > plus,
> > > the roads there are horrendous. Getting around was a lot easier and

> much
> > more
> > > fun in the 4 cylinder, half-doored TJ.
> > >
> > > Dave in NY
> > > 2002 TJ
> > > Straight Six
> > > Dana 44 rear
> > > 3.73s
> > > Raingler netting

> >
> >

>
>




twaldron 11-01-2003 02:38 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
Reminds me of Coca Cola in Texas. When someone offers you a "coke" and
you say "OK", they ask "what kind?". You then say "orange", "grape",
"Dr. Pepper", "Coca Cola", etc.

Thom wrote:

> I never really understood the Libby stories in this group, never saw a Libby
> in the Netherlands, just the new Cherokee ;-)
> And yes, it is a real "problem" everybody over here calls their 4x4 a
> "jeep". When I tell someone I have a Jeep, they ask, "yeah, cool, what kind,
> a Suzuki?". Glad for them I'm too civilized to give them the four knuckle
> treatment on the spot. And when I tell it's a Jeep CJ7, they get the same
> facial expression you see on goldfish. Only when I say Renegade, they know
> what kind of vehicle I'm talking about, but for me the conversation is over.
>
> Thom.
>
> "Rushfn1" <rushfn1@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20031101090616.05579.00000095@mb-m26.aol.com...
>
>>So my wife and I were on three weeks vacation this past September on the
>>islands of Santorini and Milos and I saw some strange sights: the Jeep

>
> Liberty
>
>>model with the "Cherokee" nameplate on it... I saw this several times in
>>Athens too.
>>
>>Someone had the gall to put a Jeep tire cover on the rear tire of their

>
> Toyota
>
>>whatereveritwas... It was so disturbing to me I took a picture of it.
>>
>>Seems almost everyone calls their 4x4 a "jeep." Samuris are popular

>
> there.
>
>>One of my wife's best friends there has the Grand Vitara (not so grand);

>
> she
>
>>calls it her Jeep. I brought a pic of my '02 TJ and said to her, "No,

>
> *this*
>
>>is a Jeep."
>>
>>Next year in Greece we'll be renting a 4x4 (hopefully a real Jeep) so

>
> we'll be
>
>>able to explore a lot more... Having the Wrangler in Mexico was GREAT,

>
> plus,
>
>>the roads there are horrendous. Getting around was a lot easier and much

>
> more
>
>>fun in the 4 cylinder, half-doored TJ.
>>
>>Dave in NY
>>2002 TJ
>>Straight Six
>>Dana 44 rear
>>3.73s
>>Raingler netting

>
>
>


--
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tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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twaldron 11-01-2003 02:38 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
Reminds me of Coca Cola in Texas. When someone offers you a "coke" and
you say "OK", they ask "what kind?". You then say "orange", "grape",
"Dr. Pepper", "Coca Cola", etc.

Thom wrote:

> I never really understood the Libby stories in this group, never saw a Libby
> in the Netherlands, just the new Cherokee ;-)
> And yes, it is a real "problem" everybody over here calls their 4x4 a
> "jeep". When I tell someone I have a Jeep, they ask, "yeah, cool, what kind,
> a Suzuki?". Glad for them I'm too civilized to give them the four knuckle
> treatment on the spot. And when I tell it's a Jeep CJ7, they get the same
> facial expression you see on goldfish. Only when I say Renegade, they know
> what kind of vehicle I'm talking about, but for me the conversation is over.
>
> Thom.
>
> "Rushfn1" <rushfn1@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20031101090616.05579.00000095@mb-m26.aol.com...
>
>>So my wife and I were on three weeks vacation this past September on the
>>islands of Santorini and Milos and I saw some strange sights: the Jeep

>
> Liberty
>
>>model with the "Cherokee" nameplate on it... I saw this several times in
>>Athens too.
>>
>>Someone had the gall to put a Jeep tire cover on the rear tire of their

>
> Toyota
>
>>whatereveritwas... It was so disturbing to me I took a picture of it.
>>
>>Seems almost everyone calls their 4x4 a "jeep." Samuris are popular

>
> there.
>
>>One of my wife's best friends there has the Grand Vitara (not so grand);

>
> she
>
>>calls it her Jeep. I brought a pic of my '02 TJ and said to her, "No,

>
> *this*
>
>>is a Jeep."
>>
>>Next year in Greece we'll be renting a 4x4 (hopefully a real Jeep) so

>
> we'll be
>
>>able to explore a lot more... Having the Wrangler in Mexico was GREAT,

>
> plus,
>
>>the roads there are horrendous. Getting around was a lot easier and much

>
> more
>
>>fun in the 4 cylinder, half-doored TJ.
>>
>>Dave in NY
>>2002 TJ
>>Straight Six
>>Dana 44 rear
>>3.73s
>>Raingler netting

>
>
>


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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twaldron 11-01-2003 02:38 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
Reminds me of Coca Cola in Texas. When someone offers you a "coke" and
you say "OK", they ask "what kind?". You then say "orange", "grape",
"Dr. Pepper", "Coca Cola", etc.

Thom wrote:

> I never really understood the Libby stories in this group, never saw a Libby
> in the Netherlands, just the new Cherokee ;-)
> And yes, it is a real "problem" everybody over here calls their 4x4 a
> "jeep". When I tell someone I have a Jeep, they ask, "yeah, cool, what kind,
> a Suzuki?". Glad for them I'm too civilized to give them the four knuckle
> treatment on the spot. And when I tell it's a Jeep CJ7, they get the same
> facial expression you see on goldfish. Only when I say Renegade, they know
> what kind of vehicle I'm talking about, but for me the conversation is over.
>
> Thom.
>
> "Rushfn1" <rushfn1@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20031101090616.05579.00000095@mb-m26.aol.com...
>
>>So my wife and I were on three weeks vacation this past September on the
>>islands of Santorini and Milos and I saw some strange sights: the Jeep

>
> Liberty
>
>>model with the "Cherokee" nameplate on it... I saw this several times in
>>Athens too.
>>
>>Someone had the gall to put a Jeep tire cover on the rear tire of their

>
> Toyota
>
>>whatereveritwas... It was so disturbing to me I took a picture of it.
>>
>>Seems almost everyone calls their 4x4 a "jeep." Samuris are popular

>
> there.
>
>>One of my wife's best friends there has the Grand Vitara (not so grand);

>
> she
>
>>calls it her Jeep. I brought a pic of my '02 TJ and said to her, "No,

>
> *this*
>
>>is a Jeep."
>>
>>Next year in Greece we'll be renting a 4x4 (hopefully a real Jeep) so

>
> we'll be
>
>>able to explore a lot more... Having the Wrangler in Mexico was GREAT,

>
> plus,
>
>>the roads there are horrendous. Getting around was a lot easier and much

>
> more
>
>>fun in the 4 cylinder, half-doored TJ.
>>
>>Dave in NY
>>2002 TJ
>>Straight Six
>>Dana 44 rear
>>3.73s
>>Raingler netting

>
>
>


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


Earle Horton 11-01-2003 03:13 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
That's not what you said before, "...but for me the conversation is over."
Your post makes it look like you don't even give them a chance.

Earle

"Thom" <thomvis@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:3fa40a20$0$6058$756600cd@news.cambrium.nl...
> For me it important that people listen an don't make assumptions. Those
> people become my friends.
>
> Thom.
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bo11dk$16ft40$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > So for you calling your vehicle by the "right" name is more important

than
> > meeting people and making friends?
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Thom" <thomvis@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> > news:3fa40318$0$6054$756600cd@news.cambrium.nl...
> > > I never really understood the Libby stories in this group, never saw a

> > Libby
> > > in the Netherlands, just the new Cherokee ;-)
> > > And yes, it is a real "problem" everybody over here calls their 4x4 a
> > > "jeep". When I tell someone I have a Jeep, they ask, "yeah, cool, what

> > kind,
> > > a Suzuki?". Glad for them I'm too civilized to give them the four

> knuckle
> > > treatment on the spot. And when I tell it's a Jeep CJ7, they get the

> same
> > > facial expression you see on goldfish. Only when I say Renegade, they

> know
> > > what kind of vehicle I'm talking about, but for me the conversation is

> > over.
> > >
> > > Thom.
> > >
> > > "Rushfn1" <rushfn1@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20031101090616.05579.00000095@mb-m26.aol.com...
> > > > So my wife and I were on three weeks vacation this past September on

> the
> > > > islands of Santorini and Milos and I saw some strange sights: the

Jeep
> > > Liberty
> > > > model with the "Cherokee" nameplate on it... I saw this several

times
> > in
> > > > Athens too.
> > > >
> > > > Someone had the gall to put a Jeep tire cover on the rear tire of

> their
> > > Toyota
> > > > whatereveritwas... It was so disturbing to me I took a picture of

it.
> > > >
> > > > Seems almost everyone calls their 4x4 a "jeep." Samuris are popular
> > > there.
> > > > One of my wife's best friends there has the Grand Vitara (not so

> grand);
> > > she
> > > > calls it her Jeep. I brought a pic of my '02 TJ and said to her,

"No,
> > > *this*
> > > > is a Jeep."
> > > >
> > > > Next year in Greece we'll be renting a 4x4 (hopefully a real Jeep)

so
> > > we'll be
> > > > able to explore a lot more... Having the Wrangler in Mexico was

GREAT,
> > > plus,
> > > > the roads there are horrendous. Getting around was a lot easier and

> > much
> > > more
> > > > fun in the 4 cylinder, half-doored TJ.
> > > >
> > > > Dave in NY
> > > > 2002 TJ
> > > > Straight Six
> > > > Dana 44 rear
> > > > 3.73s
> > > > Raingler netting
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Earle Horton 11-01-2003 03:13 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
That's not what you said before, "...but for me the conversation is over."
Your post makes it look like you don't even give them a chance.

Earle

"Thom" <thomvis@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:3fa40a20$0$6058$756600cd@news.cambrium.nl...
> For me it important that people listen an don't make assumptions. Those
> people become my friends.
>
> Thom.
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bo11dk$16ft40$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > So for you calling your vehicle by the "right" name is more important

than
> > meeting people and making friends?
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Thom" <thomvis@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> > news:3fa40318$0$6054$756600cd@news.cambrium.nl...
> > > I never really understood the Libby stories in this group, never saw a

> > Libby
> > > in the Netherlands, just the new Cherokee ;-)
> > > And yes, it is a real "problem" everybody over here calls their 4x4 a
> > > "jeep". When I tell someone I have a Jeep, they ask, "yeah, cool, what

> > kind,
> > > a Suzuki?". Glad for them I'm too civilized to give them the four

> knuckle
> > > treatment on the spot. And when I tell it's a Jeep CJ7, they get the

> same
> > > facial expression you see on goldfish. Only when I say Renegade, they

> know
> > > what kind of vehicle I'm talking about, but for me the conversation is

> > over.
> > >
> > > Thom.
> > >
> > > "Rushfn1" <rushfn1@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20031101090616.05579.00000095@mb-m26.aol.com...
> > > > So my wife and I were on three weeks vacation this past September on

> the
> > > > islands of Santorini and Milos and I saw some strange sights: the

Jeep
> > > Liberty
> > > > model with the "Cherokee" nameplate on it... I saw this several

times
> > in
> > > > Athens too.
> > > >
> > > > Someone had the gall to put a Jeep tire cover on the rear tire of

> their
> > > Toyota
> > > > whatereveritwas... It was so disturbing to me I took a picture of

it.
> > > >
> > > > Seems almost everyone calls their 4x4 a "jeep." Samuris are popular
> > > there.
> > > > One of my wife's best friends there has the Grand Vitara (not so

> grand);
> > > she
> > > > calls it her Jeep. I brought a pic of my '02 TJ and said to her,

"No,
> > > *this*
> > > > is a Jeep."
> > > >
> > > > Next year in Greece we'll be renting a 4x4 (hopefully a real Jeep)

so
> > > we'll be
> > > > able to explore a lot more... Having the Wrangler in Mexico was

GREAT,
> > > plus,
> > > > the roads there are horrendous. Getting around was a lot easier and

> > much
> > > more
> > > > fun in the 4 cylinder, half-doored TJ.
> > > >
> > > > Dave in NY
> > > > 2002 TJ
> > > > Straight Six
> > > > Dana 44 rear
> > > > 3.73s
> > > > Raingler netting
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Earle Horton 11-01-2003 03:13 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
That's not what you said before, "...but for me the conversation is over."
Your post makes it look like you don't even give them a chance.

Earle

"Thom" <thomvis@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:3fa40a20$0$6058$756600cd@news.cambrium.nl...
> For me it important that people listen an don't make assumptions. Those
> people become my friends.
>
> Thom.
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bo11dk$16ft40$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > So for you calling your vehicle by the "right" name is more important

than
> > meeting people and making friends?
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Thom" <thomvis@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> > news:3fa40318$0$6054$756600cd@news.cambrium.nl...
> > > I never really understood the Libby stories in this group, never saw a

> > Libby
> > > in the Netherlands, just the new Cherokee ;-)
> > > And yes, it is a real "problem" everybody over here calls their 4x4 a
> > > "jeep". When I tell someone I have a Jeep, they ask, "yeah, cool, what

> > kind,
> > > a Suzuki?". Glad for them I'm too civilized to give them the four

> knuckle
> > > treatment on the spot. And when I tell it's a Jeep CJ7, they get the

> same
> > > facial expression you see on goldfish. Only when I say Renegade, they

> know
> > > what kind of vehicle I'm talking about, but for me the conversation is

> > over.
> > >
> > > Thom.
> > >
> > > "Rushfn1" <rushfn1@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20031101090616.05579.00000095@mb-m26.aol.com...
> > > > So my wife and I were on three weeks vacation this past September on

> the
> > > > islands of Santorini and Milos and I saw some strange sights: the

Jeep
> > > Liberty
> > > > model with the "Cherokee" nameplate on it... I saw this several

times
> > in
> > > > Athens too.
> > > >
> > > > Someone had the gall to put a Jeep tire cover on the rear tire of

> their
> > > Toyota
> > > > whatereveritwas... It was so disturbing to me I took a picture of

it.
> > > >
> > > > Seems almost everyone calls their 4x4 a "jeep." Samuris are popular
> > > there.
> > > > One of my wife's best friends there has the Grand Vitara (not so

> grand);
> > > she
> > > > calls it her Jeep. I brought a pic of my '02 TJ and said to her,

"No,
> > > *this*
> > > > is a Jeep."
> > > >
> > > > Next year in Greece we'll be renting a 4x4 (hopefully a real Jeep)

so
> > > we'll be
> > > > able to explore a lot more... Having the Wrangler in Mexico was

GREAT,
> > > plus,
> > > > the roads there are horrendous. Getting around was a lot easier and

> > much
> > > more
> > > > fun in the 4 cylinder, half-doored TJ.
> > > >
> > > > Dave in NY
> > > > 2002 TJ
> > > > Straight Six
> > > > Dana 44 rear
> > > > 3.73s
> > > > Raingler netting
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-01-2003 04:02 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
I never drink anything stronger than pop, but then, Pop would drink
most anything.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> Reminds me of Coca Cola in Texas. When someone offers you a "coke" and
> you say "OK", they ask "what kind?". You then say "orange", "grape",
> "Dr. Pepper", "Coca Cola", etc.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-01-2003 04:02 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
I never drink anything stronger than pop, but then, Pop would drink
most anything.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> Reminds me of Coca Cola in Texas. When someone offers you a "coke" and
> you say "OK", they ask "what kind?". You then say "orange", "grape",
> "Dr. Pepper", "Coca Cola", etc.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-01-2003 04:02 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
I never drink anything stronger than pop, but then, Pop would drink
most anything.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> Reminds me of Coca Cola in Texas. When someone offers you a "coke" and
> you say "OK", they ask "what kind?". You then say "orange", "grape",
> "Dr. Pepper", "Coca Cola", etc.


Simon Juncal 11-02-2003 07:53 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 


twaldron wrote:
> Reminds me of Coca Cola in Texas. When someone offers you a "coke" and
> you say "OK", they ask "what kind?". You then say "orange", "grape",
> "Dr. Pepper", "Coca Cola", etc.


I believe that's pronounced "co-cola"



Simon Juncal 11-02-2003 07:53 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 


twaldron wrote:
> Reminds me of Coca Cola in Texas. When someone offers you a "coke" and
> you say "OK", they ask "what kind?". You then say "orange", "grape",
> "Dr. Pepper", "Coca Cola", etc.


I believe that's pronounced "co-cola"



Simon Juncal 11-02-2003 07:53 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 


twaldron wrote:
> Reminds me of Coca Cola in Texas. When someone offers you a "coke" and
> you say "OK", they ask "what kind?". You then say "orange", "grape",
> "Dr. Pepper", "Coca Cola", etc.


I believe that's pronounced "co-cola"



twaldron 11-02-2003 08:35 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
LOL! :)

Simon Juncal wrote:

>
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>> Reminds me of Coca Cola in Texas. When someone offers you a "coke" and
>> you say "OK", they ask "what kind?". You then say "orange", "grape",
>> "Dr. Pepper", "Coca Cola", etc.

>
>
> I believe that's pronounced "co-cola"
>
>


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
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twaldron 11-02-2003 08:35 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
LOL! :)

Simon Juncal wrote:

>
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>> Reminds me of Coca Cola in Texas. When someone offers you a "coke" and
>> you say "OK", they ask "what kind?". You then say "orange", "grape",
>> "Dr. Pepper", "Coca Cola", etc.

>
>
> I believe that's pronounced "co-cola"
>
>


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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twaldron 11-02-2003 08:35 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
LOL! :)

Simon Juncal wrote:

>
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>> Reminds me of Coca Cola in Texas. When someone offers you a "coke" and
>> you say "OK", they ask "what kind?". You then say "orange", "grape",
>> "Dr. Pepper", "Coca Cola", etc.

>
>
> I believe that's pronounced "co-cola"
>
>


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03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

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Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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Thom 11-03-2003 12:49 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
Don't worry, it's not that black and white.

Thom.
(Mental note to self: Go back in time and put a smiley in original post)

"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bo13t1$15qoee$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> That's not what you said before, "...but for me the conversation is over."
> Your post makes it look like you don't even give them a chance.
>
> Earle
>
> "Thom" <thomvis@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:3fa40a20$0$6058$756600cd@news.cambrium.nl...
> > For me it important that people listen an don't make assumptions. Those
> > people become my friends.
> >
> > Thom.
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in

message
> > news:bo11dk$16ft40$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > So for you calling your vehicle by the "right" name is more important

> than
> > > meeting people and making friends?
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Thom" <thomvis@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3fa40318$0$6054$756600cd@news.cambrium.nl...
> > > > I never really understood the Libby stories in this group, never saw

a
> > > Libby
> > > > in the Netherlands, just the new Cherokee ;-)
> > > > And yes, it is a real "problem" everybody over here calls their 4x4

a
> > > > "jeep". When I tell someone I have a Jeep, they ask, "yeah, cool,

what
> > > kind,
> > > > a Suzuki?". Glad for them I'm too civilized to give them the four

> > knuckle
> > > > treatment on the spot. And when I tell it's a Jeep CJ7, they get the

> > same
> > > > facial expression you see on goldfish. Only when I say Renegade,

they
> > know
> > > > what kind of vehicle I'm talking about, but for me the conversation

is
> > > over.
> > > >
> > > > Thom.
> > > >
> > > > "Rushfn1" <rushfn1@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:20031101090616.05579.00000095@mb-m26.aol.com...
> > > > > So my wife and I were on three weeks vacation this past September

on
> > the
> > > > > islands of Santorini and Milos and I saw some strange sights: the

> Jeep
> > > > Liberty
> > > > > model with the "Cherokee" nameplate on it... I saw this several

> times
> > > in
> > > > > Athens too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Someone had the gall to put a Jeep tire cover on the rear tire of

> > their
> > > > Toyota
> > > > > whatereveritwas... It was so disturbing to me I took a picture of

> it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Seems almost everyone calls their 4x4 a "jeep." Samuris are

popular
> > > > there.
> > > > > One of my wife's best friends there has the Grand Vitara (not so

> > grand);
> > > > she
> > > > > calls it her Jeep. I brought a pic of my '02 TJ and said to her,

> "No,
> > > > *this*
> > > > > is a Jeep."
> > > > >
> > > > > Next year in Greece we'll be renting a 4x4 (hopefully a real Jeep)

> so
> > > > we'll be
> > > > > able to explore a lot more... Having the Wrangler in Mexico was

> GREAT,
> > > > plus,
> > > > > the roads there are horrendous. Getting around was a lot easier

and
> > > much
> > > > more
> > > > > fun in the 4 cylinder, half-doored TJ.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave in NY
> > > > > 2002 TJ
> > > > > Straight Six
> > > > > Dana 44 rear
> > > > > 3.73s
> > > > > Raingler netting
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Thom 11-03-2003 12:49 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
Don't worry, it's not that black and white.

Thom.
(Mental note to self: Go back in time and put a smiley in original post)

"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bo13t1$15qoee$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> That's not what you said before, "...but for me the conversation is over."
> Your post makes it look like you don't even give them a chance.
>
> Earle
>
> "Thom" <thomvis@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:3fa40a20$0$6058$756600cd@news.cambrium.nl...
> > For me it important that people listen an don't make assumptions. Those
> > people become my friends.
> >
> > Thom.
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in

message
> > news:bo11dk$16ft40$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > So for you calling your vehicle by the "right" name is more important

> than
> > > meeting people and making friends?
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Thom" <thomvis@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3fa40318$0$6054$756600cd@news.cambrium.nl...
> > > > I never really understood the Libby stories in this group, never saw

a
> > > Libby
> > > > in the Netherlands, just the new Cherokee ;-)
> > > > And yes, it is a real "problem" everybody over here calls their 4x4

a
> > > > "jeep". When I tell someone I have a Jeep, they ask, "yeah, cool,

what
> > > kind,
> > > > a Suzuki?". Glad for them I'm too civilized to give them the four

> > knuckle
> > > > treatment on the spot. And when I tell it's a Jeep CJ7, they get the

> > same
> > > > facial expression you see on goldfish. Only when I say Renegade,

they
> > know
> > > > what kind of vehicle I'm talking about, but for me the conversation

is
> > > over.
> > > >
> > > > Thom.
> > > >
> > > > "Rushfn1" <rushfn1@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:20031101090616.05579.00000095@mb-m26.aol.com...
> > > > > So my wife and I were on three weeks vacation this past September

on
> > the
> > > > > islands of Santorini and Milos and I saw some strange sights: the

> Jeep
> > > > Liberty
> > > > > model with the "Cherokee" nameplate on it... I saw this several

> times
> > > in
> > > > > Athens too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Someone had the gall to put a Jeep tire cover on the rear tire of

> > their
> > > > Toyota
> > > > > whatereveritwas... It was so disturbing to me I took a picture of

> it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Seems almost everyone calls their 4x4 a "jeep." Samuris are

popular
> > > > there.
> > > > > One of my wife's best friends there has the Grand Vitara (not so

> > grand);
> > > > she
> > > > > calls it her Jeep. I brought a pic of my '02 TJ and said to her,

> "No,
> > > > *this*
> > > > > is a Jeep."
> > > > >
> > > > > Next year in Greece we'll be renting a 4x4 (hopefully a real Jeep)

> so
> > > > we'll be
> > > > > able to explore a lot more... Having the Wrangler in Mexico was

> GREAT,
> > > > plus,
> > > > > the roads there are horrendous. Getting around was a lot easier

and
> > > much
> > > > more
> > > > > fun in the 4 cylinder, half-doored TJ.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave in NY
> > > > > 2002 TJ
> > > > > Straight Six
> > > > > Dana 44 rear
> > > > > 3.73s
> > > > > Raingler netting
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Thom 11-03-2003 12:49 PM

Re: "Jeeps" in Greece
 
Don't worry, it's not that black and white.

Thom.
(Mental note to self: Go back in time and put a smiley in original post)

"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bo13t1$15qoee$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> That's not what you said before, "...but for me the conversation is over."
> Your post makes it look like you don't even give them a chance.
>
> Earle
>
> "Thom" <thomvis@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:3fa40a20$0$6058$756600cd@news.cambrium.nl...
> > For me it important that people listen an don't make assumptions. Those
> > people become my friends.
> >
> > Thom.
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in

message
> > news:bo11dk$16ft40$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > So for you calling your vehicle by the "right" name is more important

> than
> > > meeting people and making friends?
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Thom" <thomvis@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3fa40318$0$6054$756600cd@news.cambrium.nl...
> > > > I never really understood the Libby stories in this group, never saw

a
> > > Libby
> > > > in the Netherlands, just the new Cherokee ;-)
> > > > And yes, it is a real "problem" everybody over here calls their 4x4

a
> > > > "jeep". When I tell someone I have a Jeep, they ask, "yeah, cool,

what
> > > kind,
> > > > a Suzuki?". Glad for them I'm too civilized to give them the four

> > knuckle
> > > > treatment on the spot. And when I tell it's a Jeep CJ7, they get the

> > same
> > > > facial expression you see on goldfish. Only when I say Renegade,

they
> > know
> > > > what kind of vehicle I'm talking about, but for me the conversation

is
> > > over.
> > > >
> > > > Thom.
> > > >
> > > > "Rushfn1" <rushfn1@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:20031101090616.05579.00000095@mb-m26.aol.com...
> > > > > So my wife and I were on three weeks vacation this past September

on
> > the
> > > > > islands of Santorini and Milos and I saw some strange sights: the

> Jeep
> > > > Liberty
> > > > > model with the "Cherokee" nameplate on it... I saw this several

> times
> > > in
> > > > > Athens too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Someone had the gall to put a Jeep tire cover on the rear tire of

> > their
> > > > Toyota
> > > > > whatereveritwas... It was so disturbing to me I took a picture of

> it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Seems almost everyone calls their 4x4 a "jeep." Samuris are

popular
> > > > there.
> > > > > One of my wife's best friends there has the Grand Vitara (not so

> > grand);
> > > > she
> > > > > calls it her Jeep. I brought a pic of my '02 TJ and said to her,

> "No,
> > > > *this*
> > > > > is a Jeep."
> > > > >
> > > > > Next year in Greece we'll be renting a 4x4 (hopefully a real Jeep)

> so
> > > > we'll be
> > > > > able to explore a lot more... Having the Wrangler in Mexico was

> GREAT,
> > > > plus,
> > > > > the roads there are horrendous. Getting around was a lot easier

and
> > > much
> > > > more
> > > > > fun in the 4 cylinder, half-doored TJ.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave in NY
> > > > > 2002 TJ
> > > > > Straight Six
> > > > > Dana 44 rear
> > > > > 3.73s
> > > > > Raingler netting
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>





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