Re: Jeep Wrangler TJ axle type???
 

I honestly don't know which axle I got... didn't get the larger tire
package....but as I was reminded yesterday on a silty rain slicked road...I
don't have ABS either!! hehe

I realize this has been asked before....but the 44 is the superior axle,
isn't it?
35 not being a 'BAD' bit of hardware but that it's just a 'lighter duty'
axle?!



"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:74ednaewoLO5RyzdRVn-sA@comcast.com...
> Only if you have the 30" tire wheel group, although I don't remember if
the
> 44 was included in the group all model years. Certainly most of them.
>
> "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:i2esc.132067$0qd.109443@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com...
> > does that just apply according to ABS?
> >
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:68SdnbBKto7K_Czd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> > > What bill siad, also if your TJ has ABS and the 30" tire wheel group,
it
> > > will have the 35, if no ABS it should have the 44.
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:40B14EC6.D8BF5DD3@cox.net...
> > > > Compare your covers with the differential at:
> > > > http://www.coloradok5.com/axleguide.shtml
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Derek Proctor wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey all i have a 97 wrangler sahara that came standard with the
30"
> > > > > wheel package and i was wondering what axle and gearing it has.
Im
> > > > > almost sure its a dana 35 but the tag on the left rear reads 3.55
> > > > > gears. I do not have any factory limited slips or anything so im
> > > > > guessing it was a mistake by the dealer. Is it possible that the
> > > > > dealer slapped on the 3.55 gear tag on a dana 35 or does this tag
> mean
> > > > > that my housing actually has 3.55's and my axle is in fact a dana
> 44?
> > > > > Any input would be appreciated.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Jeep Wrangler TJ axle type???
 

I'm not 100% sure on this, but damn close -- I think you probably have
a D44 in the rear.

I have a 1997 Sahara as well, and it has (or actually had) 3.55 gears,
and has a Dana 44 rear. I believe, from what I read when I was buying
this jeep a couple years ago (I could be mistaken, it was a couple
years ago, after all), that the 3.55 gearing implies the Dana 44. It's
even possible the Dana 44 upgrade was an included part of the Sahara
package in 1997. The only caveat to this is if you have ABS. Since I
knew I wasn't getting ABS, though, that didn't even enter my thinking,
and I didn't look at how that affected any options as a result. Either
way, my vote is you probably have a Dana 44, pending the outcome of
your comparison to the pictures on the link Bill posted.

Let us know! I'd certainly like to know if I'm way off base in what I
remember.


dirk44@aol.com (Derek Proctor) wrote in message news:<3ade3bcf.0405231707.4f8518f3@posting.google. com>...
> Hey all i have a 97 wrangler sahara that came standard with the 30"
> wheel package and i was wondering what axle and gearing it has. Im
> almost sure its a dana 35 but the tag on the left rear reads 3.55
> gears. I do not have any factory limited slips or anything so im
> guessing it was a mistake by the dealer. Is it possible that the
> dealer slapped on the 3.55 gear tag on a dana 35 or does this tag mean
> that my housing actually has 3.55's and my axle is in fact a dana 44?
> Any input would be appreciated.

Re: Jeep Wrangler TJ axle type???
 

I'm not 100% sure on this, but damn close -- I think you probably have
a D44 in the rear.

I have a 1997 Sahara as well, and it has (or actually had) 3.55 gears,
and has a Dana 44 rear. I believe, from what I read when I was buying
this jeep a couple years ago (I could be mistaken, it was a couple
years ago, after all), that the 3.55 gearing implies the Dana 44. It's
even possible the Dana 44 upgrade was an included part of the Sahara
package in 1997. The only caveat to this is if you have ABS. Since I
knew I wasn't getting ABS, though, that didn't even enter my thinking,
and I didn't look at how that affected any options as a result. Either
way, my vote is you probably have a Dana 44, pending the outcome of
your comparison to the pictures on the link Bill posted.

Let us know! I'd certainly like to know if I'm way off base in what I
remember.


dirk44@aol.com (Derek Proctor) wrote in message news:<3ade3bcf.0405231707.4f8518f3@posting.google. com>...
> Hey all i have a 97 wrangler sahara that came standard with the 30"
> wheel package and i was wondering what axle and gearing it has. Im
> almost sure its a dana 35 but the tag on the left rear reads 3.55
> gears. I do not have any factory limited slips or anything so im
> guessing it was a mistake by the dealer. Is it possible that the
> dealer slapped on the 3.55 gear tag on a dana 35 or does this tag mean
> that my housing actually has 3.55's and my axle is in fact a dana 44?
> Any input would be appreciated.

Re: Jeep Wrangler TJ axle type???
 

I'm not 100% sure on this, but damn close -- I think you probably have
a D44 in the rear.

I have a 1997 Sahara as well, and it has (or actually had) 3.55 gears,
and has a Dana 44 rear. I believe, from what I read when I was buying
this jeep a couple years ago (I could be mistaken, it was a couple
years ago, after all), that the 3.55 gearing implies the Dana 44. It's
even possible the Dana 44 upgrade was an included part of the Sahara
package in 1997. The only caveat to this is if you have ABS. Since I
knew I wasn't getting ABS, though, that didn't even enter my thinking,
and I didn't look at how that affected any options as a result. Either
way, my vote is you probably have a Dana 44, pending the outcome of
your comparison to the pictures on the link Bill posted.

Let us know! I'd certainly like to know if I'm way off base in what I
remember.


dirk44@aol.com (Derek Proctor) wrote in message news:<3ade3bcf.0405231707.4f8518f3@posting.google. com>...
> Hey all i have a 97 wrangler sahara that came standard with the 30"
> wheel package and i was wondering what axle and gearing it has. Im
> almost sure its a dana 35 but the tag on the left rear reads 3.55
> gears. I do not have any factory limited slips or anything so im
> guessing it was a mistake by the dealer. Is it possible that the
> dealer slapped on the 3.55 gear tag on a dana 35 or does this tag mean
> that my housing actually has 3.55's and my axle is in fact a dana 44?
> Any input would be appreciated.

Re: Jeep Wrangler TJ axle type???
 

I'm not 100% sure on this, but damn close -- I think you probably have
a D44 in the rear.

I have a 1997 Sahara as well, and it has (or actually had) 3.55 gears,
and has a Dana 44 rear. I believe, from what I read when I was buying
this jeep a couple years ago (I could be mistaken, it was a couple
years ago, after all), that the 3.55 gearing implies the Dana 44. It's
even possible the Dana 44 upgrade was an included part of the Sahara
package in 1997. The only caveat to this is if you have ABS. Since I
knew I wasn't getting ABS, though, that didn't even enter my thinking,
and I didn't look at how that affected any options as a result. Either
way, my vote is you probably have a Dana 44, pending the outcome of
your comparison to the pictures on the link Bill posted.

Let us know! I'd certainly like to know if I'm way off base in what I
remember.


dirk44@aol.com (Derek Proctor) wrote in message news:<3ade3bcf.0405231707.4f8518f3@posting.google. com>...
> Hey all i have a 97 wrangler sahara that came standard with the 30"
> wheel package and i was wondering what axle and gearing it has. Im
> almost sure its a dana 35 but the tag on the left rear reads 3.55
> gears. I do not have any factory limited slips or anything so im
> guessing it was a mistake by the dealer. Is it possible that the
> dealer slapped on the 3.55 gear tag on a dana 35 or does this tag mean
> that my housing actually has 3.55's and my axle is in fact a dana 44?
> Any input would be appreciated.

Re: Jeep Wrangler TJ axle type???
 

Ok, here's what I remember regarding the TJ D44. It has always been an
option, about $500, and excepot for the current Rubicon has never been
"standard" on any model, including the Sahara. D44s do not come with ABS.

3.55 gears and ABS indicate a Dana 35 with trac-loc limited slip
differential. Dana 44s are equipped with 3.78s and all that I've seen have
the trac-loc, though I'm told some do not.

Used to be if you ordered the 30" wheel & tire group you also had to get
the D44, not sure that has continued because I've seen a few on the used
market with the 30" wheels & tires that had D35s.

"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0405240510.38bf9186@posting.google.c om...
> I'm not 100% sure on this, but damn close -- I think you probably have
> a D44 in the rear.
>
> I have a 1997 Sahara as well, and it has (or actually had) 3.55 gears,
> and has a Dana 44 rear. I believe, from what I read when I was buying
> this jeep a couple years ago (I could be mistaken, it was a couple
> years ago, after all), that the 3.55 gearing implies the Dana 44. It's
> even possible the Dana 44 upgrade was an included part of the Sahara
> package in 1997. The only caveat to this is if you have ABS. Since I
> knew I wasn't getting ABS, though, that didn't even enter my thinking,
> and I didn't look at how that affected any options as a result. Either
> way, my vote is you probably have a Dana 44, pending the outcome of
> your comparison to the pictures on the link Bill posted.
>
> Let us know! I'd certainly like to know if I'm way off base in what I
> remember.
>
>
> dirk44@aol.com (Derek Proctor) wrote in message
news:<3ade3bcf.0405231707.4f8518f3@posting.google. com>...
> > Hey all i have a 97 wrangler sahara that came standard with the 30"
> > wheel package and i was wondering what axle and gearing it has. Im
> > almost sure its a dana 35 but the tag on the left rear reads 3.55
> > gears. I do not have any factory limited slips or anything so im
> > guessing it was a mistake by the dealer. Is it possible that the
> > dealer slapped on the 3.55 gear tag on a dana 35 or does this tag mean
> > that my housing actually has 3.55's and my axle is in fact a dana 44?
> > Any input would be appreciated.

Re: Jeep Wrangler TJ axle type???
 

Ok, here's what I remember regarding the TJ D44. It has always been an
option, about $500, and excepot for the current Rubicon has never been
"standard" on any model, including the Sahara. D44s do not come with ABS.

3.55 gears and ABS indicate a Dana 35 with trac-loc limited slip
differential. Dana 44s are equipped with 3.78s and all that I've seen have
the trac-loc, though I'm told some do not.

Used to be if you ordered the 30" wheel & tire group you also had to get
the D44, not sure that has continued because I've seen a few on the used
market with the 30" wheels & tires that had D35s.

"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0405240510.38bf9186@posting.google.c om...
> I'm not 100% sure on this, but damn close -- I think you probably have
> a D44 in the rear.
>
> I have a 1997 Sahara as well, and it has (or actually had) 3.55 gears,
> and has a Dana 44 rear. I believe, from what I read when I was buying
> this jeep a couple years ago (I could be mistaken, it was a couple
> years ago, after all), that the 3.55 gearing implies the Dana 44. It's
> even possible the Dana 44 upgrade was an included part of the Sahara
> package in 1997. The only caveat to this is if you have ABS. Since I
> knew I wasn't getting ABS, though, that didn't even enter my thinking,
> and I didn't look at how that affected any options as a result. Either
> way, my vote is you probably have a Dana 44, pending the outcome of
> your comparison to the pictures on the link Bill posted.
>
> Let us know! I'd certainly like to know if I'm way off base in what I
> remember.
>
>
> dirk44@aol.com (Derek Proctor) wrote in message
news:<3ade3bcf.0405231707.4f8518f3@posting.google. com>...
> > Hey all i have a 97 wrangler sahara that came standard with the 30"
> > wheel package and i was wondering what axle and gearing it has. Im
> > almost sure its a dana 35 but the tag on the left rear reads 3.55
> > gears. I do not have any factory limited slips or anything so im
> > guessing it was a mistake by the dealer. Is it possible that the
> > dealer slapped on the 3.55 gear tag on a dana 35 or does this tag mean
> > that my housing actually has 3.55's and my axle is in fact a dana 44?
> > Any input would be appreciated.

Re: Jeep Wrangler TJ axle type???
 

Ok, here's what I remember regarding the TJ D44. It has always been an
option, about $500, and excepot for the current Rubicon has never been
"standard" on any model, including the Sahara. D44s do not come with ABS.

3.55 gears and ABS indicate a Dana 35 with trac-loc limited slip
differential. Dana 44s are equipped with 3.78s and all that I've seen have
the trac-loc, though I'm told some do not.

Used to be if you ordered the 30" wheel & tire group you also had to get
the D44, not sure that has continued because I've seen a few on the used
market with the 30" wheels & tires that had D35s.

"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0405240510.38bf9186@posting.google.c om...
> I'm not 100% sure on this, but damn close -- I think you probably have
> a D44 in the rear.
>
> I have a 1997 Sahara as well, and it has (or actually had) 3.55 gears,
> and has a Dana 44 rear. I believe, from what I read when I was buying
> this jeep a couple years ago (I could be mistaken, it was a couple
> years ago, after all), that the 3.55 gearing implies the Dana 44. It's
> even possible the Dana 44 upgrade was an included part of the Sahara
> package in 1997. The only caveat to this is if you have ABS. Since I
> knew I wasn't getting ABS, though, that didn't even enter my thinking,
> and I didn't look at how that affected any options as a result. Either
> way, my vote is you probably have a Dana 44, pending the outcome of
> your comparison to the pictures on the link Bill posted.
>
> Let us know! I'd certainly like to know if I'm way off base in what I
> remember.
>
>
> dirk44@aol.com (Derek Proctor) wrote in message
news:<3ade3bcf.0405231707.4f8518f3@posting.google. com>...
> > Hey all i have a 97 wrangler sahara that came standard with the 30"
> > wheel package and i was wondering what axle and gearing it has. Im
> > almost sure its a dana 35 but the tag on the left rear reads 3.55
> > gears. I do not have any factory limited slips or anything so im
> > guessing it was a mistake by the dealer. Is it possible that the
> > dealer slapped on the 3.55 gear tag on a dana 35 or does this tag mean
> > that my housing actually has 3.55's and my axle is in fact a dana 44?
> > Any input would be appreciated.

Re: Jeep Wrangler TJ axle type???
 

Ok, here's what I remember regarding the TJ D44. It has always been an
option, about $500, and excepot for the current Rubicon has never been
"standard" on any model, including the Sahara. D44s do not come with ABS.

3.55 gears and ABS indicate a Dana 35 with trac-loc limited slip
differential. Dana 44s are equipped with 3.78s and all that I've seen have
the trac-loc, though I'm told some do not.

Used to be if you ordered the 30" wheel & tire group you also had to get
the D44, not sure that has continued because I've seen a few on the used
market with the 30" wheels & tires that had D35s.

"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0405240510.38bf9186@posting.google.c om...
> I'm not 100% sure on this, but damn close -- I think you probably have
> a D44 in the rear.
>
> I have a 1997 Sahara as well, and it has (or actually had) 3.55 gears,
> and has a Dana 44 rear. I believe, from what I read when I was buying
> this jeep a couple years ago (I could be mistaken, it was a couple
> years ago, after all), that the 3.55 gearing implies the Dana 44. It's
> even possible the Dana 44 upgrade was an included part of the Sahara
> package in 1997. The only caveat to this is if you have ABS. Since I
> knew I wasn't getting ABS, though, that didn't even enter my thinking,
> and I didn't look at how that affected any options as a result. Either
> way, my vote is you probably have a Dana 44, pending the outcome of
> your comparison to the pictures on the link Bill posted.
>
> Let us know! I'd certainly like to know if I'm way off base in what I
> remember.
>
>
> dirk44@aol.com (Derek Proctor) wrote in message
news:<3ade3bcf.0405231707.4f8518f3@posting.google. com>...
> > Hey all i have a 97 wrangler sahara that came standard with the 30"
> > wheel package and i was wondering what axle and gearing it has. Im
> > almost sure its a dana 35 but the tag on the left rear reads 3.55
> > gears. I do not have any factory limited slips or anything so im
> > guessing it was a mistake by the dealer. Is it possible that the
> > dealer slapped on the 3.55 gear tag on a dana 35 or does this tag mean
> > that my housing actually has 3.55's and my axle is in fact a dana 44?
> > Any input would be appreciated.

Re: Jeep Wrangler TJ axle type???
 

Dana 35s are the WORST axle ever put on a Jeep, period. Bill will gladly
steer you to his infamous Dana 35 page, where you can not only see lots of
broken D35s, you can even see one breaking in action!

Years ago some beancounting corporate idiot decided to stick that axle on
the XJ, then it got passed to the poor YJ. Carrying on the plague, they
stuck it under the TJ but hedged their bets with the D44 option. Chrysler
out to offer $2,000+ reparations to anyone who ever got stuck with one of
these piles of junk.

Why is it a pice of junk? Let us count the many curses: ring & pinion too
small, pinion & carrier bearings too small, wheel bearings too small, axle
shafts too small, c-clip design, weak, beand-prone housing. (Other than
that, it's a fine piece of equipment!) All of this so Chrysler can save
about $75 per vehicle.

As I've said before, the best thing you can do with a D35 is to throw it
into a blast furnace and melt it down so it can be made into something
useful, like bedpans. Otherwise, throw it into a pond for fish habitiat, if
the fish don't mind the association.

Frankly, so many of these things have failed over the years I'm astonished
Chrysler hasn't had to recall them or lost a big consumer lawsuit over the
issue.





"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:TGlsc.143224$0qd.2570@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com...
> I honestly don't know which axle I got... didn't get the larger tire
> package....but as I was reminded yesterday on a silty rain slicked
road...I
> don't have ABS either!! hehe
>
> I realize this has been asked before....but the 44 is the superior axle,
> isn't it?
> 35 not being a 'BAD' bit of hardware but that it's just a 'lighter duty'
> axle?!
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:74ednaewoLO5RyzdRVn-sA@comcast.com...
> > Only if you have the 30" tire wheel group, although I don't remember if
> the
> > 44 was included in the group all model years. Certainly most of them.
> >
> > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:i2esc.132067$0qd.109443@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com...
> > > does that just apply according to ABS?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > > news:68SdnbBKto7K_Czd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> > > > What bill siad, also if your TJ has ABS and the 30" tire wheel
group,
> it
> > > > will have the 35, if no ABS it should have the 44.
> > > >
> > > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:40B14EC6.D8BF5DD3@cox.net...
> > > > > Compare your covers with the differential at:
> > > > > http://www.coloradok5.com/axleguide.shtml
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > Derek Proctor wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey all i have a 97 wrangler sahara that came standard with the
> 30"
> > > > > > wheel package and i was wondering what axle and gearing it has.
> Im
> > > > > > almost sure its a dana 35 but the tag on the left rear reads
3.55
> > > > > > gears. I do not have any factory limited slips or anything so
im
> > > > > > guessing it was a mistake by the dealer. Is it possible that
the
> > > > > > dealer slapped on the 3.55 gear tag on a dana 35 or does this
tag
> > mean
> > > > > > that my housing actually has 3.55's and my axle is in fact a
dana
> > 44?
> > > > > > Any input would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>