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Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!!
I just purchased one of those fancy Warn Rock front bumpers, a Warn 9.5 ti winch and the Warn winch plate that ties everything together for my 2000 Jeep Wrangler. To install everything together, I need 'torx' bits, 'allen' wrench bits, and the regular 6 point bolt and sockets to install everything. My question is, should I bag the torx and allen bolts and just buy and go reliable with the 6 point regular nut and bolt stuff I am familiar with? It would be so easy to use the original torx and allen stuff than to buy the 6 point stuff I could easily get a wrench on. Should I just use the 'default' torx and allen stuff and save initial install time or should I be consistent, comfortable and use the 6 point stuff I am used to in the past life to wrench crank? |
Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!!
Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget the
torx-stuff. :) Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "Timothy Chilson" <tchilson@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:2LILb.10191$uF6.3045583@news1.news.adelphia.n et... > > > I just purchased one of those fancy Warn Rock front bumpers, a Warn 9.5 ti > winch and the Warn winch plate that ties everything together for my 2000 > Jeep Wrangler. To install everything together, I need 'torx' bits, 'allen' > wrench bits, and the regular 6 point bolt and sockets to install everything. > My question is, should I bag the torx and allen bolts and just buy and go > reliable with the 6 point regular nut and bolt stuff I am familiar with? It > would be so easy to use the original torx and allen stuff than to buy the 6 > point stuff I could easily get a wrench on. Should I just use the 'default' > torx and allen stuff and save initial install time or should I be > consistent, comfortable and use the 6 point stuff I am used to in the past > life to wrench crank? > > |
Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!!
Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget the
torx-stuff. :) Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "Timothy Chilson" <tchilson@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:2LILb.10191$uF6.3045583@news1.news.adelphia.n et... > > > I just purchased one of those fancy Warn Rock front bumpers, a Warn 9.5 ti > winch and the Warn winch plate that ties everything together for my 2000 > Jeep Wrangler. To install everything together, I need 'torx' bits, 'allen' > wrench bits, and the regular 6 point bolt and sockets to install everything. > My question is, should I bag the torx and allen bolts and just buy and go > reliable with the 6 point regular nut and bolt stuff I am familiar with? It > would be so easy to use the original torx and allen stuff than to buy the 6 > point stuff I could easily get a wrench on. Should I just use the 'default' > torx and allen stuff and save initial install time or should I be > consistent, comfortable and use the 6 point stuff I am used to in the past > life to wrench crank? > > |
Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!!
Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget the
torx-stuff. :) Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "Timothy Chilson" <tchilson@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:2LILb.10191$uF6.3045583@news1.news.adelphia.n et... > > > I just purchased one of those fancy Warn Rock front bumpers, a Warn 9.5 ti > winch and the Warn winch plate that ties everything together for my 2000 > Jeep Wrangler. To install everything together, I need 'torx' bits, 'allen' > wrench bits, and the regular 6 point bolt and sockets to install everything. > My question is, should I bag the torx and allen bolts and just buy and go > reliable with the 6 point regular nut and bolt stuff I am familiar with? It > would be so easy to use the original torx and allen stuff than to buy the 6 > point stuff I could easily get a wrench on. Should I just use the 'default' > torx and allen stuff and save initial install time or should I be > consistent, comfortable and use the 6 point stuff I am used to in the past > life to wrench crank? > > |
Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!!
I dunno Jerry... I never pass up any excuse to buy more/new tools. :)
Dave http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:57:20 -0800, "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote: >Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget the >torx-stuff. :) > >Jerry |
Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!!
I dunno Jerry... I never pass up any excuse to buy more/new tools. :)
Dave http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:57:20 -0800, "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote: >Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget the >torx-stuff. :) > >Jerry |
Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!!
I dunno Jerry... I never pass up any excuse to buy more/new tools. :)
Dave http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:57:20 -0800, "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote: >Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget the >torx-stuff. :) > >Jerry |
Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!!
I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors,
left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads? David C. Moller wrote: > I dunno Jerry... I never pass up any excuse to buy more/new tools. :) > > Dave > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm > > On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:57:20 -0800, "Jerry Bransford" > <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote: > > >>Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget the >>torx-stuff. :) >> >>Jerry > > |
Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!!
I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors,
left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads? David C. Moller wrote: > I dunno Jerry... I never pass up any excuse to buy more/new tools. :) > > Dave > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm > > On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:57:20 -0800, "Jerry Bransford" > <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote: > > >>Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget the >>torx-stuff. :) >> >>Jerry > > |
Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!!
I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors,
left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads? David C. Moller wrote: > I dunno Jerry... I never pass up any excuse to buy more/new tools. :) > > Dave > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm > > On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:57:20 -0800, "Jerry Bransford" > <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote: > > >>Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget the >>torx-stuff. :) >> >>Jerry > > |
Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!! My Confession!
Thanks guys, I'm the original poster and I apologize for being so goofy and
vague with my original post but after a tough week, I had a few beers when I originally posted my question and I was not at my mentally best but I guess you knew what I'm getting at. I'm a hex head guy and I do not like the torx head stuff and the allen head stuff. My feeling is that when I install my new bumper and winch, I want to go with hex head material. My new question: Why in the he*l does Jeep (and other manufacturers) use anything but the hex head? I have stripped the heads of so many torx and allen, why do car manufacturers continue to see them? "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message news:INULb.61$NR6.15864@news.uswest.net... > I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors, > left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc > welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads? > > David C. Moller wrote: > > I dunno Jerry... I never pass up any excuse to buy more/new tools. :) > > > > Dave > > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm > > > > On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:57:20 -0800, "Jerry Bransford" > > <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote: > > > > > >>Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget the > >>torx-stuff. :) > >> > >>Jerry > > > > > |
Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!! My Confession!
Thanks guys, I'm the original poster and I apologize for being so goofy and
vague with my original post but after a tough week, I had a few beers when I originally posted my question and I was not at my mentally best but I guess you knew what I'm getting at. I'm a hex head guy and I do not like the torx head stuff and the allen head stuff. My feeling is that when I install my new bumper and winch, I want to go with hex head material. My new question: Why in the he*l does Jeep (and other manufacturers) use anything but the hex head? I have stripped the heads of so many torx and allen, why do car manufacturers continue to see them? "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message news:INULb.61$NR6.15864@news.uswest.net... > I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors, > left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc > welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads? > > David C. Moller wrote: > > I dunno Jerry... I never pass up any excuse to buy more/new tools. :) > > > > Dave > > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm > > > > On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:57:20 -0800, "Jerry Bransford" > > <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote: > > > > > >>Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget the > >>torx-stuff. :) > >> > >>Jerry > > > > > |
Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!! My Confession!
Thanks guys, I'm the original poster and I apologize for being so goofy and
vague with my original post but after a tough week, I had a few beers when I originally posted my question and I was not at my mentally best but I guess you knew what I'm getting at. I'm a hex head guy and I do not like the torx head stuff and the allen head stuff. My feeling is that when I install my new bumper and winch, I want to go with hex head material. My new question: Why in the he*l does Jeep (and other manufacturers) use anything but the hex head? I have stripped the heads of so many torx and allen, why do car manufacturers continue to see them? "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message news:INULb.61$NR6.15864@news.uswest.net... > I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors, > left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc > welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads? > > David C. Moller wrote: > > I dunno Jerry... I never pass up any excuse to buy more/new tools. :) > > > > Dave > > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm > > > > On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:57:20 -0800, "Jerry Bransford" > > <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote: > > > > > >>Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget the > >>torx-stuff. :) > >> > >>Jerry > > > > > |
Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!! My Confession!
Because they work better in automatic assembly equipement
JeePenn wrote: > Thanks guys, I'm the original poster and I apologize for being so goofy and > vague with my original post but after a tough week, I had a few beers when I > originally posted my question and I was not at my mentally best but I guess > you knew what I'm getting at. I'm a hex head guy and I do not like the torx > head stuff and the allen head stuff. My feeling is that when I install my > new bumper and winch, I want to go with hex head material. My new question: > Why in the he*l does Jeep (and other manufacturers) use anything but the hex > head? I have stripped the heads of so many torx and allen, why do car > manufacturers continue to see them? > > > > "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message > news:INULb.61$NR6.15864@news.uswest.net... > >>I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors, >>left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc >>welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads? >> >>David C. Moller wrote: >> >>>I dunno Jerry... I never pass up any excuse to buy more/new tools. :) >>> >>>Dave >>>http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm >>> >>>On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:57:20 -0800, "Jerry Bransford" >>><jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget > > the > >>>>torx-stuff. :) >>>> >>>>Jerry >>> >>> > > |
Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!! My Confession!
Because they work better in automatic assembly equipement
JeePenn wrote: > Thanks guys, I'm the original poster and I apologize for being so goofy and > vague with my original post but after a tough week, I had a few beers when I > originally posted my question and I was not at my mentally best but I guess > you knew what I'm getting at. I'm a hex head guy and I do not like the torx > head stuff and the allen head stuff. My feeling is that when I install my > new bumper and winch, I want to go with hex head material. My new question: > Why in the he*l does Jeep (and other manufacturers) use anything but the hex > head? I have stripped the heads of so many torx and allen, why do car > manufacturers continue to see them? > > > > "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message > news:INULb.61$NR6.15864@news.uswest.net... > >>I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors, >>left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc >>welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads? >> >>David C. Moller wrote: >> >>>I dunno Jerry... I never pass up any excuse to buy more/new tools. :) >>> >>>Dave >>>http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm >>> >>>On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:57:20 -0800, "Jerry Bransford" >>><jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget > > the > >>>>torx-stuff. :) >>>> >>>>Jerry >>> >>> > > |
Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!! My Confession!
Because they work better in automatic assembly equipement
JeePenn wrote: > Thanks guys, I'm the original poster and I apologize for being so goofy and > vague with my original post but after a tough week, I had a few beers when I > originally posted my question and I was not at my mentally best but I guess > you knew what I'm getting at. I'm a hex head guy and I do not like the torx > head stuff and the allen head stuff. My feeling is that when I install my > new bumper and winch, I want to go with hex head material. My new question: > Why in the he*l does Jeep (and other manufacturers) use anything but the hex > head? I have stripped the heads of so many torx and allen, why do car > manufacturers continue to see them? > > > > "Roy J" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message > news:INULb.61$NR6.15864@news.uswest.net... > >>I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors, >>left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc >>welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads? >> >>David C. Moller wrote: >> >>>I dunno Jerry... I never pass up any excuse to buy more/new tools. :) >>> >>>Dave >>>http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm >>> >>>On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:57:20 -0800, "Jerry Bransford" >>><jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Go with regular hex-head hardware... Grade 5 or Grade 8... and forget > > the > >>>>torx-stuff. :) >>>> >>>>Jerry >>> >>> > > |
Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!!
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:25:33 -0600, Roy J <spamless@microsoft.net>
wrote: >I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors, >left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc >welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads? If you've got good quality TORX bits you can put more torque on them than on a hex head. Of course, if you bought cheap, Autozone bits, all bets are off. -- Old Crow '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl' '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1 TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51 |
Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!!
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:25:33 -0600, Roy J <spamless@microsoft.net>
wrote: >I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors, >left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc >welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads? If you've got good quality TORX bits you can put more torque on them than on a hex head. Of course, if you bought cheap, Autozone bits, all bets are off. -- Old Crow '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl' '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1 TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51 |
Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!!
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:25:33 -0600, Roy J <spamless@microsoft.net>
wrote: >I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors, >left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc >welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads? If you've got good quality TORX bits you can put more torque on them than on a hex head. Of course, if you bought cheap, Autozone bits, all bets are off. -- Old Crow '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl' '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1 TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51 |
Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!!
Hex heads tend to be a lot deeper than torx though.
Dave Milne "Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:epc2001r006f10fmbjfg48lrsc2no7r28g@4ax.com... > On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:25:33 -0600, Roy J <spamless@microsoft.net> > wrote: > > >I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors, > >left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc > >welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads? > > If you've got good quality TORX bits you can put more torque on them > than on a hex head. Of course, if you bought cheap, Autozone bits, > all bets are off. > -- > Old Crow > '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl' > '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande > ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1 > TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51 |
Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!!
Hex heads tend to be a lot deeper than torx though.
Dave Milne "Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:epc2001r006f10fmbjfg48lrsc2no7r28g@4ax.com... > On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:25:33 -0600, Roy J <spamless@microsoft.net> > wrote: > > >I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors, > >left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc > >welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads? > > If you've got good quality TORX bits you can put more torque on them > than on a hex head. Of course, if you bought cheap, Autozone bits, > all bets are off. > -- > Old Crow > '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl' > '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande > ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1 > TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51 |
Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!!
Hex heads tend to be a lot deeper than torx though.
Dave Milne "Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:epc2001r006f10fmbjfg48lrsc2no7r28g@4ax.com... > On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:25:33 -0600, Roy J <spamless@microsoft.net> > wrote: > > >I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors, > >left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc > >welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads? > > If you've got good quality TORX bits you can put more torque on them > than on a hex head. Of course, if you bought cheap, Autozone bits, > all bets are off. > -- > Old Crow > '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl' > '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande > ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1 > TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51 |
Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!!
Old Crow wrote:
> > On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:25:33 -0600, Roy J <spamless@microsoft.net> > wrote: > > >I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors, > >left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc > >welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads? > > If you've got good quality TORX bits you can put more torque on them > than on a hex head. Of course, if you bought cheap, Autozone bits, > all bets are off. > -- Huh???? Up here in the rust belt there is usually nothing left for any torx bit to grab onto, good quality or crap quality. I always figured those damn torx bolts were just a pure rip off money maker for the dealer when having to do any repairs. They always have to be drilled out and tapped for a proper bolt to go back in so you can add an extra half hour's labor for each bolt that has to come off. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's |
Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!!
Old Crow wrote:
> > On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:25:33 -0600, Roy J <spamless@microsoft.net> > wrote: > > >I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors, > >left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc > >welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads? > > If you've got good quality TORX bits you can put more torque on them > than on a hex head. Of course, if you bought cheap, Autozone bits, > all bets are off. > -- Huh???? Up here in the rust belt there is usually nothing left for any torx bit to grab onto, good quality or crap quality. I always figured those damn torx bolts were just a pure rip off money maker for the dealer when having to do any repairs. They always have to be drilled out and tapped for a proper bolt to go back in so you can add an extra half hour's labor for each bolt that has to come off. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's |
Re: Jeep Wrangler 2000 Bolt and Nut opinions please!!!!
Old Crow wrote:
> > On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:25:33 -0600, Roy J <spamless@microsoft.net> > wrote: > > >I take it you like to have a complete set of screw extractors, > >left hand drill bits, magnetic base drill holder, and an arc > >welder to remove the bolts after you strip out the Torix heads? > > If you've got good quality TORX bits you can put more torque on them > than on a hex head. Of course, if you bought cheap, Autozone bits, > all bets are off. > -- Huh???? Up here in the rust belt there is usually nothing left for any torx bit to grab onto, good quality or crap quality. I always figured those damn torx bolts were just a pure rip off money maker for the dealer when having to do any repairs. They always have to be drilled out and tapped for a proper bolt to go back in so you can add an extra half hour's labor for each bolt that has to come off. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's |
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