Jeep won't start after installation of new deck
 

I have a 89 Wrangler 4.2l that I installed a new CD deck into today.
The installation went without a hitch, except for the fact that the
wires that connect to the LED light for the alarm (LED doesn't work)
broke loose. After hooking everything back up and putting the dash
back together, the Jeep would not start. I turned it to the "On"
position and everything lights up, radio works, blower works, etc.
Turn to "Start" postion, nothing. Not even trying to crank over. In
the "On" position the battery is reading around 8 volts, so I tried to
jump the Jeep with my Suburban, but had no luck with that either. I am
starting to think that my battery is shot or that something with the
wires to the LED light for the alarm caused it to flip out. I have not
had a need or desire to use the alarm since I purchased the Jeep, so I
do not know how it works, only that the person I purchased it from a
couple of months ago said that it worked. It is supposed to have a
starter disable. The model is a CodeAlarm 707 plus 4.0. I tried
messing with the alarm wires a little to see if that was the issue but
no luck. I am leaning towards the ignition kill in the alarm as the
culprit, but with only 8 volts on the battery, it could be that too. I
could not find any info on the alarm online, so I am going to call a
car security shop tomorrow to find out more info on it. Any
suggestions would be much appreciated.

Ethan

Re: Jeep won't start after installation of new deck
 

Out of curiousity ...did you disconnect the battery during installation or
leave it connected? I've seen alarms work in a number of ways. One
possibility is the alarm immobilized your starter when it sensed a
disconnect at the battery terminal without some prior de-activation
procedure. Or, if you left it connected while installing, you may have
drained it somehow ...but I'd think a boost would solve that?

I would get out the multimeter and start testing all the wires ...especially
your stereo ground wires and your battery/starter wires to see if there's
anything happening there.


"Ethan" <ethanjones@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:31b69f22.0410031917.20a730e1@posting.google.c om...
> I have a 89 Wrangler 4.2l that I installed a new CD deck into today.
> The installation went without a hitch, except for the fact that the
> wires that connect to the LED light for the alarm (LED doesn't work)
> broke loose. After hooking everything back up and putting the dash
> back together, the Jeep would not start. I turned it to the "On"
> position and everything lights up, radio works, blower works, etc.
> Turn to "Start" postion, nothing. Not even trying to crank over. In
> the "On" position the battery is reading around 8 volts, so I tried to
> jump the Jeep with my Suburban, but had no luck with that either. I am
> starting to think that my battery is shot or that something with the
> wires to the LED light for the alarm caused it to flip out. I have not
> had a need or desire to use the alarm since I purchased the Jeep, so I
> do not know how it works, only that the person I purchased it from a
> couple of months ago said that it worked. It is supposed to have a
> starter disable. The model is a CodeAlarm 707 plus 4.0. I tried
> messing with the alarm wires a little to see if that was the issue but
> no luck. I am leaning towards the ignition kill in the alarm as the
> culprit, but with only 8 volts on the battery, it could be that too. I
> could not find any info on the alarm online, so I am going to call a
> car security shop tomorrow to find out more info on it. Any
> suggestions would be much appreciated.
>
> Ethan

Re: Jeep won't start after installation of new deck
 

Out of curiousity ...did you disconnect the battery during installation or
leave it connected? I've seen alarms work in a number of ways. One
possibility is the alarm immobilized your starter when it sensed a
disconnect at the battery terminal without some prior de-activation
procedure. Or, if you left it connected while installing, you may have
drained it somehow ...but I'd think a boost would solve that?

I would get out the multimeter and start testing all the wires ...especially
your stereo ground wires and your battery/starter wires to see if there's
anything happening there.


"Ethan" <ethanjones@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:31b69f22.0410031917.20a730e1@posting.google.c om...
> I have a 89 Wrangler 4.2l that I installed a new CD deck into today.
> The installation went without a hitch, except for the fact that the
> wires that connect to the LED light for the alarm (LED doesn't work)
> broke loose. After hooking everything back up and putting the dash
> back together, the Jeep would not start. I turned it to the "On"
> position and everything lights up, radio works, blower works, etc.
> Turn to "Start" postion, nothing. Not even trying to crank over. In
> the "On" position the battery is reading around 8 volts, so I tried to
> jump the Jeep with my Suburban, but had no luck with that either. I am
> starting to think that my battery is shot or that something with the
> wires to the LED light for the alarm caused it to flip out. I have not
> had a need or desire to use the alarm since I purchased the Jeep, so I
> do not know how it works, only that the person I purchased it from a
> couple of months ago said that it worked. It is supposed to have a
> starter disable. The model is a CodeAlarm 707 plus 4.0. I tried
> messing with the alarm wires a little to see if that was the issue but
> no luck. I am leaning towards the ignition kill in the alarm as the
> culprit, but with only 8 volts on the battery, it could be that too. I
> could not find any info on the alarm online, so I am going to call a
> car security shop tomorrow to find out more info on it. Any
> suggestions would be much appreciated.
>
> Ethan

Re: Jeep won't start after installation of new deck
 

Out of curiousity ...did you disconnect the battery during installation or
leave it connected? I've seen alarms work in a number of ways. One
possibility is the alarm immobilized your starter when it sensed a
disconnect at the battery terminal without some prior de-activation
procedure. Or, if you left it connected while installing, you may have
drained it somehow ...but I'd think a boost would solve that?

I would get out the multimeter and start testing all the wires ...especially
your stereo ground wires and your battery/starter wires to see if there's
anything happening there.


"Ethan" <ethanjones@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:31b69f22.0410031917.20a730e1@posting.google.c om...
> I have a 89 Wrangler 4.2l that I installed a new CD deck into today.
> The installation went without a hitch, except for the fact that the
> wires that connect to the LED light for the alarm (LED doesn't work)
> broke loose. After hooking everything back up and putting the dash
> back together, the Jeep would not start. I turned it to the "On"
> position and everything lights up, radio works, blower works, etc.
> Turn to "Start" postion, nothing. Not even trying to crank over. In
> the "On" position the battery is reading around 8 volts, so I tried to
> jump the Jeep with my Suburban, but had no luck with that either. I am
> starting to think that my battery is shot or that something with the
> wires to the LED light for the alarm caused it to flip out. I have not
> had a need or desire to use the alarm since I purchased the Jeep, so I
> do not know how it works, only that the person I purchased it from a
> couple of months ago said that it worked. It is supposed to have a
> starter disable. The model is a CodeAlarm 707 plus 4.0. I tried
> messing with the alarm wires a little to see if that was the issue but
> no luck. I am leaning towards the ignition kill in the alarm as the
> culprit, but with only 8 volts on the battery, it could be that too. I
> could not find any info on the alarm online, so I am going to call a
> car security shop tomorrow to find out more info on it. Any
> suggestions would be much appreciated.
>
> Ethan

Re: Jeep won't start after installation of new deck
 

My alarm is picky and I found out the hard way one morning before work. The
night before I had unhooked the battery when installing something. When I
hooked it back up the alarm chirped once. I thought nothing of it and put
it away in the garage. Next morning the alarm was going off when I opened
the door and my remote would not disarm it. I tried starting it with no
luck either. Turns out that I needed to use my remote once after hooking
the battery back up so that the alarm would re-learn the remote code. Maybe
something similar happed to you. The LED wires should have no effect on the
alarm's operation unless it happened to blow a fuse, in that case the
starter disable is what is preventing your Jeep from starting. The starter
disable relay has to have power in order to allow it to start, a security
feature in case the alarm power is cut to disable the alarm.

Shawn


"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:ug48d.184968$%S.136886@pd7tw2no...
> Out of curiousity ...did you disconnect the battery during installation or
> leave it connected? I've seen alarms work in a number of ways. One
> possibility is the alarm immobilized your starter when it sensed a
> disconnect at the battery terminal without some prior de-activation
> procedure. Or, if you left it connected while installing, you may have
> drained it somehow ...but I'd think a boost would solve that?
>
> I would get out the multimeter and start testing all the wires
> ...especially
> your stereo ground wires and your battery/starter wires to see if there's
> anything happening there.
>
>
> "Ethan" <ethanjones@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:31b69f22.0410031917.20a730e1@posting.google.c om...
>> I have a 89 Wrangler 4.2l that I installed a new CD deck into today.
>> The installation went without a hitch, except for the fact that the
>> wires that connect to the LED light for the alarm (LED doesn't work)
>> broke loose. After hooking everything back up and putting the dash
>> back together, the Jeep would not start. I turned it to the "On"
>> position and everything lights up, radio works, blower works, etc.
>> Turn to "Start" postion, nothing. Not even trying to crank over. In
>> the "On" position the battery is reading around 8 volts, so I tried to
>> jump the Jeep with my Suburban, but had no luck with that either. I am
>> starting to think that my battery is shot or that something with the
>> wires to the LED light for the alarm caused it to flip out. I have not
>> had a need or desire to use the alarm since I purchased the Jeep, so I
>> do not know how it works, only that the person I purchased it from a
>> couple of months ago said that it worked. It is supposed to have a
>> starter disable. The model is a CodeAlarm 707 plus 4.0. I tried
>> messing with the alarm wires a little to see if that was the issue but
>> no luck. I am leaning towards the ignition kill in the alarm as the
>> culprit, but with only 8 volts on the battery, it could be that too. I
>> could not find any info on the alarm online, so I am going to call a
>> car security shop tomorrow to find out more info on it. Any
>> suggestions would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Ethan
>
>

Re: Jeep won't start after installation of new deck
 

My alarm is picky and I found out the hard way one morning before work. The
night before I had unhooked the battery when installing something. When I
hooked it back up the alarm chirped once. I thought nothing of it and put
it away in the garage. Next morning the alarm was going off when I opened
the door and my remote would not disarm it. I tried starting it with no
luck either. Turns out that I needed to use my remote once after hooking
the battery back up so that the alarm would re-learn the remote code. Maybe
something similar happed to you. The LED wires should have no effect on the
alarm's operation unless it happened to blow a fuse, in that case the
starter disable is what is preventing your Jeep from starting. The starter
disable relay has to have power in order to allow it to start, a security
feature in case the alarm power is cut to disable the alarm.

Shawn


"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:ug48d.184968$%S.136886@pd7tw2no...
> Out of curiousity ...did you disconnect the battery during installation or
> leave it connected? I've seen alarms work in a number of ways. One
> possibility is the alarm immobilized your starter when it sensed a
> disconnect at the battery terminal without some prior de-activation
> procedure. Or, if you left it connected while installing, you may have
> drained it somehow ...but I'd think a boost would solve that?
>
> I would get out the multimeter and start testing all the wires
> ...especially
> your stereo ground wires and your battery/starter wires to see if there's
> anything happening there.
>
>
> "Ethan" <ethanjones@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:31b69f22.0410031917.20a730e1@posting.google.c om...
>> I have a 89 Wrangler 4.2l that I installed a new CD deck into today.
>> The installation went without a hitch, except for the fact that the
>> wires that connect to the LED light for the alarm (LED doesn't work)
>> broke loose. After hooking everything back up and putting the dash
>> back together, the Jeep would not start. I turned it to the "On"
>> position and everything lights up, radio works, blower works, etc.
>> Turn to "Start" postion, nothing. Not even trying to crank over. In
>> the "On" position the battery is reading around 8 volts, so I tried to
>> jump the Jeep with my Suburban, but had no luck with that either. I am
>> starting to think that my battery is shot or that something with the
>> wires to the LED light for the alarm caused it to flip out. I have not
>> had a need or desire to use the alarm since I purchased the Jeep, so I
>> do not know how it works, only that the person I purchased it from a
>> couple of months ago said that it worked. It is supposed to have a
>> starter disable. The model is a CodeAlarm 707 plus 4.0. I tried
>> messing with the alarm wires a little to see if that was the issue but
>> no luck. I am leaning towards the ignition kill in the alarm as the
>> culprit, but with only 8 volts on the battery, it could be that too. I
>> could not find any info on the alarm online, so I am going to call a
>> car security shop tomorrow to find out more info on it. Any
>> suggestions would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Ethan
>
>

Re: Jeep won't start after installation of new deck
 

My alarm is picky and I found out the hard way one morning before work. The
night before I had unhooked the battery when installing something. When I
hooked it back up the alarm chirped once. I thought nothing of it and put
it away in the garage. Next morning the alarm was going off when I opened
the door and my remote would not disarm it. I tried starting it with no
luck either. Turns out that I needed to use my remote once after hooking
the battery back up so that the alarm would re-learn the remote code. Maybe
something similar happed to you. The LED wires should have no effect on the
alarm's operation unless it happened to blow a fuse, in that case the
starter disable is what is preventing your Jeep from starting. The starter
disable relay has to have power in order to allow it to start, a security
feature in case the alarm power is cut to disable the alarm.

Shawn


"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:ug48d.184968$%S.136886@pd7tw2no...
> Out of curiousity ...did you disconnect the battery during installation or
> leave it connected? I've seen alarms work in a number of ways. One
> possibility is the alarm immobilized your starter when it sensed a
> disconnect at the battery terminal without some prior de-activation
> procedure. Or, if you left it connected while installing, you may have
> drained it somehow ...but I'd think a boost would solve that?
>
> I would get out the multimeter and start testing all the wires
> ...especially
> your stereo ground wires and your battery/starter wires to see if there's
> anything happening there.
>
>
> "Ethan" <ethanjones@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:31b69f22.0410031917.20a730e1@posting.google.c om...
>> I have a 89 Wrangler 4.2l that I installed a new CD deck into today.
>> The installation went without a hitch, except for the fact that the
>> wires that connect to the LED light for the alarm (LED doesn't work)
>> broke loose. After hooking everything back up and putting the dash
>> back together, the Jeep would not start. I turned it to the "On"
>> position and everything lights up, radio works, blower works, etc.
>> Turn to "Start" postion, nothing. Not even trying to crank over. In
>> the "On" position the battery is reading around 8 volts, so I tried to
>> jump the Jeep with my Suburban, but had no luck with that either. I am
>> starting to think that my battery is shot or that something with the
>> wires to the LED light for the alarm caused it to flip out. I have not
>> had a need or desire to use the alarm since I purchased the Jeep, so I
>> do not know how it works, only that the person I purchased it from a
>> couple of months ago said that it worked. It is supposed to have a
>> starter disable. The model is a CodeAlarm 707 plus 4.0. I tried
>> messing with the alarm wires a little to see if that was the issue but
>> no luck. I am leaning towards the ignition kill in the alarm as the
>> culprit, but with only 8 volts on the battery, it could be that too. I
>> could not find any info on the alarm online, so I am going to call a
>> car security shop tomorrow to find out more info on it. Any
>> suggestions would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Ethan
>
>

Re: Jeep won't start after installation of new deck
 

I did not disconnect the battery during the installation. There was a
inline fuse for the power line, so I pulled the fuse during
installation. I did disconnect the battery to repair the power line
going to the LED light. As I was reassembling the dash I noticed that
a wire was arcing and it was the positive for the LED light. The
inside of the wire was stripped near the metal part of the dash
causing the arc. I repaired the wire and hooked the battery back up.

Any chance that my battery is just not holding a charge at all or
should have jumping the battery override any of that type of issue?

"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message news:<ug48d.184968$%S.136886@pd7tw2no>...
> Out of curiousity ...did you disconnect the battery during installation or
> leave it connected? I've seen alarms work in a number of ways. One
> possibility is the alarm immobilized your starter when it sensed a
> disconnect at the battery terminal without some prior de-activation
> procedure. Or, if you left it connected while installing, you may have
> drained it somehow ...but I'd think a boost would solve that?
>
> I would get out the multimeter and start testing all the wires ...especially
> your stereo ground wires and your battery/starter wires to see if there's
> anything happening there.
>
>
> "Ethan" <ethanjones@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:31b69f22.0410031917.20a730e1@posting.google.c om...
> > I have a 89 Wrangler 4.2l that I installed a new CD deck into today.
> > The installation went without a hitch, except for the fact that the
> > wires that connect to the LED light for the alarm (LED doesn't work)
> > broke loose. After hooking everything back up and putting the dash
> > back together, the Jeep would not start. I turned it to the "On"
> > position and everything lights up, radio works, blower works, etc.
> > Turn to "Start" postion, nothing. Not even trying to crank over. In
> > the "On" position the battery is reading around 8 volts, so I tried to
> > jump the Jeep with my Suburban, but had no luck with that either. I am
> > starting to think that my battery is shot or that something with the
> > wires to the LED light for the alarm caused it to flip out. I have not
> > had a need or desire to use the alarm since I purchased the Jeep, so I
> > do not know how it works, only that the person I purchased it from a
> > couple of months ago said that it worked. It is supposed to have a
> > starter disable. The model is a CodeAlarm 707 plus 4.0. I tried
> > messing with the alarm wires a little to see if that was the issue but
> > no luck. I am leaning towards the ignition kill in the alarm as the
> > culprit, but with only 8 volts on the battery, it could be that too. I
> > could not find any info on the alarm online, so I am going to call a
> > car security shop tomorrow to find out more info on it. Any
> > suggestions would be much appreciated.
> >
> > Ethan

Re: Jeep won't start after installation of new deck
 

I did not disconnect the battery during the installation. There was a
inline fuse for the power line, so I pulled the fuse during
installation. I did disconnect the battery to repair the power line
going to the LED light. As I was reassembling the dash I noticed that
a wire was arcing and it was the positive for the LED light. The
inside of the wire was stripped near the metal part of the dash
causing the arc. I repaired the wire and hooked the battery back up.

Any chance that my battery is just not holding a charge at all or
should have jumping the battery override any of that type of issue?

"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message news:<ug48d.184968$%S.136886@pd7tw2no>...
> Out of curiousity ...did you disconnect the battery during installation or
> leave it connected? I've seen alarms work in a number of ways. One
> possibility is the alarm immobilized your starter when it sensed a
> disconnect at the battery terminal without some prior de-activation
> procedure. Or, if you left it connected while installing, you may have
> drained it somehow ...but I'd think a boost would solve that?
>
> I would get out the multimeter and start testing all the wires ...especially
> your stereo ground wires and your battery/starter wires to see if there's
> anything happening there.
>
>
> "Ethan" <ethanjones@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:31b69f22.0410031917.20a730e1@posting.google.c om...
> > I have a 89 Wrangler 4.2l that I installed a new CD deck into today.
> > The installation went without a hitch, except for the fact that the
> > wires that connect to the LED light for the alarm (LED doesn't work)
> > broke loose. After hooking everything back up and putting the dash
> > back together, the Jeep would not start. I turned it to the "On"
> > position and everything lights up, radio works, blower works, etc.
> > Turn to "Start" postion, nothing. Not even trying to crank over. In
> > the "On" position the battery is reading around 8 volts, so I tried to
> > jump the Jeep with my Suburban, but had no luck with that either. I am
> > starting to think that my battery is shot or that something with the
> > wires to the LED light for the alarm caused it to flip out. I have not
> > had a need or desire to use the alarm since I purchased the Jeep, so I
> > do not know how it works, only that the person I purchased it from a
> > couple of months ago said that it worked. It is supposed to have a
> > starter disable. The model is a CodeAlarm 707 plus 4.0. I tried
> > messing with the alarm wires a little to see if that was the issue but
> > no luck. I am leaning towards the ignition kill in the alarm as the
> > culprit, but with only 8 volts on the battery, it could be that too. I
> > could not find any info on the alarm online, so I am going to call a
> > car security shop tomorrow to find out more info on it. Any
> > suggestions would be much appreciated.
> >
> > Ethan

Re: Jeep won't start after installation of new deck
 

I did not disconnect the battery during the installation. There was a
inline fuse for the power line, so I pulled the fuse during
installation. I did disconnect the battery to repair the power line
going to the LED light. As I was reassembling the dash I noticed that
a wire was arcing and it was the positive for the LED light. The
inside of the wire was stripped near the metal part of the dash
causing the arc. I repaired the wire and hooked the battery back up.

Any chance that my battery is just not holding a charge at all or
should have jumping the battery override any of that type of issue?

"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message news:<ug48d.184968$%S.136886@pd7tw2no>...
> Out of curiousity ...did you disconnect the battery during installation or
> leave it connected? I've seen alarms work in a number of ways. One
> possibility is the alarm immobilized your starter when it sensed a
> disconnect at the battery terminal without some prior de-activation
> procedure. Or, if you left it connected while installing, you may have
> drained it somehow ...but I'd think a boost would solve that?
>
> I would get out the multimeter and start testing all the wires ...especially
> your stereo ground wires and your battery/starter wires to see if there's
> anything happening there.
>
>
> "Ethan" <ethanjones@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:31b69f22.0410031917.20a730e1@posting.google.c om...
> > I have a 89 Wrangler 4.2l that I installed a new CD deck into today.
> > The installation went without a hitch, except for the fact that the
> > wires that connect to the LED light for the alarm (LED doesn't work)
> > broke loose. After hooking everything back up and putting the dash
> > back together, the Jeep would not start. I turned it to the "On"
> > position and everything lights up, radio works, blower works, etc.
> > Turn to "Start" postion, nothing. Not even trying to crank over. In
> > the "On" position the battery is reading around 8 volts, so I tried to
> > jump the Jeep with my Suburban, but had no luck with that either. I am
> > starting to think that my battery is shot or that something with the
> > wires to the LED light for the alarm caused it to flip out. I have not
> > had a need or desire to use the alarm since I purchased the Jeep, so I
> > do not know how it works, only that the person I purchased it from a
> > couple of months ago said that it worked. It is supposed to have a
> > starter disable. The model is a CodeAlarm 707 plus 4.0. I tried
> > messing with the alarm wires a little to see if that was the issue but
> > no luck. I am leaning towards the ignition kill in the alarm as the
> > culprit, but with only 8 volts on the battery, it could be that too. I
> > could not find any info on the alarm online, so I am going to call a
> > car security shop tomorrow to find out more info on it. Any
> > suggestions would be much appreciated.
> >
> > Ethan