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h0pper@hotmail.com 02-26-2007 01:08 AM

jeep pcm bypass for "real" alternator
 
hey, ive got a 95 wrangler with a charging problem. i swapped out the
alt but no good. i took the new alt out and had it tested and it
tested fine.. i then checked all the charging wires and fuses and
lights.. the check engine bulb was missing (how odd *sarcasm) i put a
new one in and guess what?? the check engine light came on!! well
great. i did key turn thing and it flashed a 41. the field circuit
generator code... i check the continuity on the wires the manual
indicates.. they are fine. great now im thinking i need a pcm.
i asked around and someone said i could bypass the pcm and hook up an
older voltage regulator out of an old pick up (i got new one for a 77
ram charger) my problem is i dont quite now how to do this... im
not real knowledgeable about electronics but im a fast leaner.. would
anyone mind giving me a rundown on what wires go where? do i need
to take the alt apart? am i going about this the wrong way, would it
be easier to fix the problem another way.. any help would be
great oh and im not worried about the check engine light staying
on we dont have smog checks here.. thnx again jay


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 02-26-2007 02:19 AM

Re: jeep pcm bypass for "real" alternator
 
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/charging.html
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
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<h0pper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1172470123.460514.266110@h3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> hey, ive got a 95 wrangler with a charging problem. i swapped out the
> alt but no good. i took the new alt out and had it tested and it
> tested fine.. i then checked all the charging wires and fuses and
> lights.. the check engine bulb was missing (how odd *sarcasm) i put a
> new one in and guess what?? the check engine light came on!! well
> great. i did key turn thing and it flashed a 41. the field circuit
> generator code... i check the continuity on the wires the manual
> indicates.. they are fine. great now im thinking i need a pcm.
> i asked around and someone said i could bypass the pcm and hook up an
> older voltage regulator out of an old pick up (i got new one for a 77
> ram charger) my problem is i dont quite now how to do this... im
> not real knowledgeable about electronics but im a fast leaner.. would
> anyone mind giving me a rundown on what wires go where? do i need
> to take the alt apart? am i going about this the wrong way, would it
> be easier to fix the problem another way.. any help would be
> great oh and im not worried about the check engine light staying
> on we dont have smog checks here.. thnx again jay
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 02-26-2007 02:19 AM

Re: jeep pcm bypass for "real" alternator
 
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/charging.html
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

<h0pper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1172470123.460514.266110@h3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> hey, ive got a 95 wrangler with a charging problem. i swapped out the
> alt but no good. i took the new alt out and had it tested and it
> tested fine.. i then checked all the charging wires and fuses and
> lights.. the check engine bulb was missing (how odd *sarcasm) i put a
> new one in and guess what?? the check engine light came on!! well
> great. i did key turn thing and it flashed a 41. the field circuit
> generator code... i check the continuity on the wires the manual
> indicates.. they are fine. great now im thinking i need a pcm.
> i asked around and someone said i could bypass the pcm and hook up an
> older voltage regulator out of an old pick up (i got new one for a 77
> ram charger) my problem is i dont quite now how to do this... im
> not real knowledgeable about electronics but im a fast leaner.. would
> anyone mind giving me a rundown on what wires go where? do i need
> to take the alt apart? am i going about this the wrong way, would it
> be easier to fix the problem another way.. any help would be
> great oh and im not worried about the check engine light staying
> on we dont have smog checks here.. thnx again jay
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 02-26-2007 02:19 AM

Re: jeep pcm bypass for "real" alternator
 
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/charging.html
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

<h0pper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1172470123.460514.266110@h3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> hey, ive got a 95 wrangler with a charging problem. i swapped out the
> alt but no good. i took the new alt out and had it tested and it
> tested fine.. i then checked all the charging wires and fuses and
> lights.. the check engine bulb was missing (how odd *sarcasm) i put a
> new one in and guess what?? the check engine light came on!! well
> great. i did key turn thing and it flashed a 41. the field circuit
> generator code... i check the continuity on the wires the manual
> indicates.. they are fine. great now im thinking i need a pcm.
> i asked around and someone said i could bypass the pcm and hook up an
> older voltage regulator out of an old pick up (i got new one for a 77
> ram charger) my problem is i dont quite now how to do this... im
> not real knowledgeable about electronics but im a fast leaner.. would
> anyone mind giving me a rundown on what wires go where? do i need
> to take the alt apart? am i going about this the wrong way, would it
> be easier to fix the problem another way.. any help would be
> great oh and im not worried about the check engine light staying
> on we dont have smog checks here.. thnx again jay
>




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h0pper@hotmail.com 02-26-2007 03:01 AM

Re: jeep pcm bypass for "real" alternator
 
On Feb 26, 2:19 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
wrote:
> http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/charging.html
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>
> <h0p...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1172470123.460514.266110@h3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>
>
>
> > hey, ive got a 95 wrangler with a charging problem. i swapped out the
> > alt but no good. i took the new alt out and had it tested and it
> > tested fine.. i then checked all the charging wires and fuses and
> > lights.. the check engine bulb was missing (how odd *sarcasm) i put a
> > new one in and guess what?? the check engine light came on!! well
> > great. i did key turn thing and it flashed a 41. the field circuit
> > generator code... i check the continuity on the wires the manual
> > indicates.. they are fine. great now im thinking i need a pcm.
> > i asked around and someone said i could bypass the pcm and hook up an
> > older voltage regulator out of an old pick up (i got new one for a 77
> > ram charger) my problem is i dont quite now how to do this... im
> > not real knowledgeable about electronics but im a fast leaner.. would
> > anyone mind giving me a rundown on what wires go where? do i need
> > to take the alt apart? am i going about this the wrong way, would it
> > be easier to fix the problem another way.. any help would be
> > great oh and im not worried about the check engine light staying
> > on we dont have smog checks here.. thnx again jay

>
> --
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thnx i'll try this and see if i can get a little closer to fixing the
problem finding an open circuit would be nice


h0pper@hotmail.com 02-26-2007 03:01 AM

Re: jeep pcm bypass for "real" alternator
 
On Feb 26, 2:19 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
wrote:
> http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/charging.html
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>
> <h0p...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1172470123.460514.266110@h3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>
>
>
> > hey, ive got a 95 wrangler with a charging problem. i swapped out the
> > alt but no good. i took the new alt out and had it tested and it
> > tested fine.. i then checked all the charging wires and fuses and
> > lights.. the check engine bulb was missing (how odd *sarcasm) i put a
> > new one in and guess what?? the check engine light came on!! well
> > great. i did key turn thing and it flashed a 41. the field circuit
> > generator code... i check the continuity on the wires the manual
> > indicates.. they are fine. great now im thinking i need a pcm.
> > i asked around and someone said i could bypass the pcm and hook up an
> > older voltage regulator out of an old pick up (i got new one for a 77
> > ram charger) my problem is i dont quite now how to do this... im
> > not real knowledgeable about electronics but im a fast leaner.. would
> > anyone mind giving me a rundown on what wires go where? do i need
> > to take the alt apart? am i going about this the wrong way, would it
> > be easier to fix the problem another way.. any help would be
> > great oh and im not worried about the check engine light staying
> > on we dont have smog checks here.. thnx again jay

>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com


thnx i'll try this and see if i can get a little closer to fixing the
problem finding an open circuit would be nice


h0pper@hotmail.com 02-26-2007 03:01 AM

Re: jeep pcm bypass for "real" alternator
 
On Feb 26, 2:19 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
wrote:
> http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/charging.html
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>
> <h0p...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1172470123.460514.266110@h3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>
>
>
> > hey, ive got a 95 wrangler with a charging problem. i swapped out the
> > alt but no good. i took the new alt out and had it tested and it
> > tested fine.. i then checked all the charging wires and fuses and
> > lights.. the check engine bulb was missing (how odd *sarcasm) i put a
> > new one in and guess what?? the check engine light came on!! well
> > great. i did key turn thing and it flashed a 41. the field circuit
> > generator code... i check the continuity on the wires the manual
> > indicates.. they are fine. great now im thinking i need a pcm.
> > i asked around and someone said i could bypass the pcm and hook up an
> > older voltage regulator out of an old pick up (i got new one for a 77
> > ram charger) my problem is i dont quite now how to do this... im
> > not real knowledgeable about electronics but im a fast leaner.. would
> > anyone mind giving me a rundown on what wires go where? do i need
> > to take the alt apart? am i going about this the wrong way, would it
> > be easier to fix the problem another way.. any help would be
> > great oh and im not worried about the check engine light staying
> > on we dont have smog checks here.. thnx again jay

>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com


thnx i'll try this and see if i can get a little closer to fixing the
problem finding an open circuit would be nice


Old Crow 02-26-2007 05:50 AM

Re: jeep pcm bypass for "real" alternator
 
On 25 Feb 2007 22:08:43 -0800, h0pper@hotmail.com wrote:

>hey, ive got a 95 wrangler with a charging problem. i swapped out the
>alt but no good. i took the new alt out and had it tested and it
>tested fine.. i then checked all the charging wires and fuses and
>lights.. the check engine bulb was missing (how odd *sarcasm) i put a
>new one in and guess what?? the check engine light came on!! well
>great. i did key turn thing and it flashed a 41. the field circuit
>generator code... i check the continuity on the wires the manual
>indicates.. they are fine. great now im thinking i need a pcm.
>i asked around and someone said i could bypass the pcm and hook up an
>older voltage regulator out of an old pick up (i got new one for a 77
>ram charger) my problem is i dont quite now how to do this... im
>not real knowledgeable about electronics but im a fast leaner.. would
>anyone mind giving me a rundown on what wires go where? do i need
>to take the alt apart? am i going about this the wrong way, would it
>be easier to fix the problem another way.. any help would be
>great oh and im not worried about the check engine light staying
>on we dont have smog checks here.. thnx again jay


I think the deal is to install one of those "one wire" alternators and
live with the Check Engine light. Seems the regulator is built into
the PCM on that model(same one I have). I got lucky and it was just
the brushes on mine.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'74 XLH chopper(gone but not forgotten)
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM


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Old Crow 02-26-2007 05:50 AM

Re: jeep pcm bypass for "real" alternator
 
On 25 Feb 2007 22:08:43 -0800, h0pper@hotmail.com wrote:

>hey, ive got a 95 wrangler with a charging problem. i swapped out the
>alt but no good. i took the new alt out and had it tested and it
>tested fine.. i then checked all the charging wires and fuses and
>lights.. the check engine bulb was missing (how odd *sarcasm) i put a
>new one in and guess what?? the check engine light came on!! well
>great. i did key turn thing and it flashed a 41. the field circuit
>generator code... i check the continuity on the wires the manual
>indicates.. they are fine. great now im thinking i need a pcm.
>i asked around and someone said i could bypass the pcm and hook up an
>older voltage regulator out of an old pick up (i got new one for a 77
>ram charger) my problem is i dont quite now how to do this... im
>not real knowledgeable about electronics but im a fast leaner.. would
>anyone mind giving me a rundown on what wires go where? do i need
>to take the alt apart? am i going about this the wrong way, would it
>be easier to fix the problem another way.. any help would be
>great oh and im not worried about the check engine light staying
>on we dont have smog checks here.. thnx again jay


I think the deal is to install one of those "one wire" alternators and
live with the Check Engine light. Seems the regulator is built into
the PCM on that model(same one I have). I got lucky and it was just
the brushes on mine.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'74 XLH chopper(gone but not forgotten)
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM


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Old Crow 02-26-2007 05:50 AM

Re: jeep pcm bypass for "real" alternator
 
On 25 Feb 2007 22:08:43 -0800, h0pper@hotmail.com wrote:

>hey, ive got a 95 wrangler with a charging problem. i swapped out the
>alt but no good. i took the new alt out and had it tested and it
>tested fine.. i then checked all the charging wires and fuses and
>lights.. the check engine bulb was missing (how odd *sarcasm) i put a
>new one in and guess what?? the check engine light came on!! well
>great. i did key turn thing and it flashed a 41. the field circuit
>generator code... i check the continuity on the wires the manual
>indicates.. they are fine. great now im thinking i need a pcm.
>i asked around and someone said i could bypass the pcm and hook up an
>older voltage regulator out of an old pick up (i got new one for a 77
>ram charger) my problem is i dont quite now how to do this... im
>not real knowledgeable about electronics but im a fast leaner.. would
>anyone mind giving me a rundown on what wires go where? do i need
>to take the alt apart? am i going about this the wrong way, would it
>be easier to fix the problem another way.. any help would be
>great oh and im not worried about the check engine light staying
>on we dont have smog checks here.. thnx again jay


I think the deal is to install one of those "one wire" alternators and
live with the Check Engine light. Seems the regulator is built into
the PCM on that model(same one I have). I got lucky and it was just
the brushes on mine.
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'74 XLH chopper(gone but not forgotten)
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM


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