Re: Jeep Fought The Rock -- And The Rock Won
 

Dave Milne wrote:
> I've met plenty of people I'd trust with a gun, and plenty of people who
> should never be allowed out by themselves.
>
> Just for an OT discussion, are the following statements true, scaled up to
> country level ?
>
> "an armed North Korea is a polite North Korea"

No, you have to keep things in context. An armed society is a polite
society because you never know who might be armed so it's best to assume
everyone is. On a nation to nation level that doesn't work so well
because it's hardly ever the leaders that get hurt if the shooting starts.

> "Its not WMDs that kill people, its people that kill people".

WMD's DON'T kill people, someone has to set off the WMD and it's that
someone that is doing the killing.

The US and the old Soviet Union had insane amounts of nuclear weapons
pointed at each other and those weapons never hurt a soul because no one
used them (thank God), indeed it could be argued that WMD SAVE people
because all those weapons may have kept the cold war from becoming hot.

Jeff DeWitt

Re: Jeep Fought The Rock -- And The Rock Won
 

Dave Milne wrote:
> I've met plenty of people I'd trust with a gun, and plenty of people who
> should never be allowed out by themselves.
>
> Just for an OT discussion, are the following statements true, scaled up to
> country level ?
>
> "an armed North Korea is a polite North Korea"

No, you have to keep things in context. An armed society is a polite
society because you never know who might be armed so it's best to assume
everyone is. On a nation to nation level that doesn't work so well
because it's hardly ever the leaders that get hurt if the shooting starts.

> "Its not WMDs that kill people, its people that kill people".

WMD's DON'T kill people, someone has to set off the WMD and it's that
someone that is doing the killing.

The US and the old Soviet Union had insane amounts of nuclear weapons
pointed at each other and those weapons never hurt a soul because no one
used them (thank God), indeed it could be argued that WMD SAVE people
because all those weapons may have kept the cold war from becoming hot.

Jeff DeWitt

Re: Jeep Fought The Rock -- And The Rock Won
 

Dave Milne wrote:
> I've met plenty of people I'd trust with a gun, and plenty of people who
> should never be allowed out by themselves.
>
> Just for an OT discussion, are the following statements true, scaled up to
> country level ?
>
> "an armed North Korea is a polite North Korea"

No, you have to keep things in context. An armed society is a polite
society because you never know who might be armed so it's best to assume
everyone is. On a nation to nation level that doesn't work so well
because it's hardly ever the leaders that get hurt if the shooting starts.

> "Its not WMDs that kill people, its people that kill people".

WMD's DON'T kill people, someone has to set off the WMD and it's that
someone that is doing the killing.

The US and the old Soviet Union had insane amounts of nuclear weapons
pointed at each other and those weapons never hurt a soul because no one
used them (thank God), indeed it could be argued that WMD SAVE people
because all those weapons may have kept the cold war from becoming hot.

Jeff DeWitt

Re: Jeep Fought The Rock -- And The Rock Won
 

"Joe Pfeiffer" <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote in message
news:1bwsuihdiy.fsf@snowball.wb.pfeifferfamily.net ...
> Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> writes:
>>
>> LOL! Any time you see young white guys wearing their hats backwards
>> (for many, it's all the time), you can always bet on something stupid
>> happening.
>
> Oh, don't be racist and ageist. Don't have to be white, don't have to
> be young.


Making an accurate observation is neither.
It is merely a statement of the truth.

Spdloader

Re: Jeep Fought The Rock -- And The Rock Won
 

"Joe Pfeiffer" <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote in message
news:1bwsuihdiy.fsf@snowball.wb.pfeifferfamily.net ...
> Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> writes:
>>
>> LOL! Any time you see young white guys wearing their hats backwards
>> (for many, it's all the time), you can always bet on something stupid
>> happening.
>
> Oh, don't be racist and ageist. Don't have to be white, don't have to
> be young.


Making an accurate observation is neither.
It is merely a statement of the truth.

Spdloader

Re: Jeep Fought The Rock -- And The Rock Won
 

"Joe Pfeiffer" <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote in message
news:1bwsuihdiy.fsf@snowball.wb.pfeifferfamily.net ...
> Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> writes:
>>
>> LOL! Any time you see young white guys wearing their hats backwards
>> (for many, it's all the time), you can always bet on something stupid
>> happening.
>
> Oh, don't be racist and ageist. Don't have to be white, don't have to
> be young.


Making an accurate observation is neither.
It is merely a statement of the truth.

Spdloader

Re: Jeep Fought The Rock -- And The Rock Won
 

"Joe Pfeiffer" <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote in message
news:1bwsuihdiy.fsf@snowball.wb.pfeifferfamily.net ...
> Bill Putney <bptn@kinez.net> writes:
>>
>> LOL! Any time you see young white guys wearing their hats backwards
>> (for many, it's all the time), you can always bet on something stupid
>> happening.
>
> Oh, don't be racist and ageist. Don't have to be white, don't have to
> be young.


Making an accurate observation is neither.
It is merely a statement of the truth.

Spdloader

Re: Jeep Fought The Rock -- And The Rock Won
 

Jeff DeWitt wrote:
> Dave Milne wrote:
>> I've met plenty of people I'd trust with a gun, and plenty of people who
>> should never be allowed out by themselves.
>>
>> Just for an OT discussion, are the following statements true, scaled
>> up to
>> country level ?
>>
>> "an armed North Korea is a polite North Korea"
>
> No, you have to keep things in context. An armed society is a polite
> society because you never know who might be armed so it's best to assume
> everyone is. On a nation to nation level that doesn't work so well
> because it's hardly ever the leaders that get hurt if the shooting starts.
>
>> "Its not WMDs that kill people, its people that kill people".
>
> WMD's DON'T kill people, someone has to set off the WMD and it's that
> someone that is doing the killing.
>
> The US and the old Soviet Union had insane amounts of nuclear weapons
> pointed at each other and those weapons never hurt a soul because no one
> used them (thank God), indeed it could be argued that WMD SAVE people
> because all those weapons may have kept the cold war from becoming hot.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
Yup! That was M.A.D. Mutually Assured Destruction. You'd have to be nuts
to start a nuclear war. The problem today is people who are nuts getting
their hands on nukes. And I apologize in advance for getting so far O.T.
in a Jeep Group :-)

--
FRH

Re: Jeep Fought The Rock -- And The Rock Won
 

Jeff DeWitt wrote:
> Dave Milne wrote:
>> I've met plenty of people I'd trust with a gun, and plenty of people who
>> should never be allowed out by themselves.
>>
>> Just for an OT discussion, are the following statements true, scaled
>> up to
>> country level ?
>>
>> "an armed North Korea is a polite North Korea"
>
> No, you have to keep things in context. An armed society is a polite
> society because you never know who might be armed so it's best to assume
> everyone is. On a nation to nation level that doesn't work so well
> because it's hardly ever the leaders that get hurt if the shooting starts.
>
>> "Its not WMDs that kill people, its people that kill people".
>
> WMD's DON'T kill people, someone has to set off the WMD and it's that
> someone that is doing the killing.
>
> The US and the old Soviet Union had insane amounts of nuclear weapons
> pointed at each other and those weapons never hurt a soul because no one
> used them (thank God), indeed it could be argued that WMD SAVE people
> because all those weapons may have kept the cold war from becoming hot.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
Yup! That was M.A.D. Mutually Assured Destruction. You'd have to be nuts
to start a nuclear war. The problem today is people who are nuts getting
their hands on nukes. And I apologize in advance for getting so far O.T.
in a Jeep Group :-)

--
FRH

Re: Jeep Fought The Rock -- And The Rock Won
 

Jeff DeWitt wrote:
> Dave Milne wrote:
>> I've met plenty of people I'd trust with a gun, and plenty of people who
>> should never be allowed out by themselves.
>>
>> Just for an OT discussion, are the following statements true, scaled
>> up to
>> country level ?
>>
>> "an armed North Korea is a polite North Korea"
>
> No, you have to keep things in context. An armed society is a polite
> society because you never know who might be armed so it's best to assume
> everyone is. On a nation to nation level that doesn't work so well
> because it's hardly ever the leaders that get hurt if the shooting starts.
>
>> "Its not WMDs that kill people, its people that kill people".
>
> WMD's DON'T kill people, someone has to set off the WMD and it's that
> someone that is doing the killing.
>
> The US and the old Soviet Union had insane amounts of nuclear weapons
> pointed at each other and those weapons never hurt a soul because no one
> used them (thank God), indeed it could be argued that WMD SAVE people
> because all those weapons may have kept the cold war from becoming hot.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
Yup! That was M.A.D. Mutually Assured Destruction. You'd have to be nuts
to start a nuclear war. The problem today is people who are nuts getting
their hands on nukes. And I apologize in advance for getting so far O.T.
in a Jeep Group :-)

--
FRH