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Kevin 05-22-2004 07:47 PM

Jeep factory gauges
 
I was reading a jeep board that pointed out the factory installed gauges
in Jeeps are not much better than idiot lights. It seems you are not
getting the information the sender actually sends, because the inputs
from the sender are filtered and averaged by the computer. So the
factory gauges are not providing real time information.





L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-22-2004 07:56 PM

Re: Jeep factory gauges
 
Hi Kevin,
I believe the gauges from any new car manufacturer to be
inaccurate, but they're going to be in the ball park, satisfying most of
us. If you value your machine like most Hot Rodders, than supplement
them with Real gauges from http://www.stewartwarner.com/ or
http://www.autometer.com/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Kevin wrote:
>
> I was reading a jeep board that pointed out the factory installed gauges
> in Jeeps are not much better than idiot lights. It seems you are not
> getting the information the sender actually sends, because the inputs
> from the sender are filtered and averaged by the computer. So the
> factory gauges are not providing real time information.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-22-2004 07:56 PM

Re: Jeep factory gauges
 
Hi Kevin,
I believe the gauges from any new car manufacturer to be
inaccurate, but they're going to be in the ball park, satisfying most of
us. If you value your machine like most Hot Rodders, than supplement
them with Real gauges from http://www.stewartwarner.com/ or
http://www.autometer.com/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Kevin wrote:
>
> I was reading a jeep board that pointed out the factory installed gauges
> in Jeeps are not much better than idiot lights. It seems you are not
> getting the information the sender actually sends, because the inputs
> from the sender are filtered and averaged by the computer. So the
> factory gauges are not providing real time information.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-22-2004 07:56 PM

Re: Jeep factory gauges
 
Hi Kevin,
I believe the gauges from any new car manufacturer to be
inaccurate, but they're going to be in the ball park, satisfying most of
us. If you value your machine like most Hot Rodders, than supplement
them with Real gauges from http://www.stewartwarner.com/ or
http://www.autometer.com/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Kevin wrote:
>
> I was reading a jeep board that pointed out the factory installed gauges
> in Jeeps are not much better than idiot lights. It seems you are not
> getting the information the sender actually sends, because the inputs
> from the sender are filtered and averaged by the computer. So the
> factory gauges are not providing real time information.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-22-2004 07:56 PM

Re: Jeep factory gauges
 
Hi Kevin,
I believe the gauges from any new car manufacturer to be
inaccurate, but they're going to be in the ball park, satisfying most of
us. If you value your machine like most Hot Rodders, than supplement
them with Real gauges from http://www.stewartwarner.com/ or
http://www.autometer.com/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Kevin wrote:
>
> I was reading a jeep board that pointed out the factory installed gauges
> in Jeeps are not much better than idiot lights. It seems you are not
> getting the information the sender actually sends, because the inputs
> from the sender are filtered and averaged by the computer. So the
> factory gauges are not providing real time information.


DougW 05-22-2004 08:00 PM

Re: Jeep factory gauges
 
Kevin did pass the time by typing:
> I was reading a jeep board that pointed out the factory installed gauges
> in Jeeps are not much better than idiot lights. It seems you are not
> getting the information the sender actually sends, because the inputs
> from the sender are filtered and averaged by the computer. So the
> factory gauges are not providing real time information.


True, modern gauges go through the ECU. However if you know how to read
a gauge they are much better than any idiot light. Any delay is in terms
of milliseconds and any averaging is just to make it easier to see what
is going on. Most folks wouldn't know what a moving needle indicated
anyway.

--
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Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
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DougW 05-22-2004 08:00 PM

Re: Jeep factory gauges
 
Kevin did pass the time by typing:
> I was reading a jeep board that pointed out the factory installed gauges
> in Jeeps are not much better than idiot lights. It seems you are not
> getting the information the sender actually sends, because the inputs
> from the sender are filtered and averaged by the computer. So the
> factory gauges are not providing real time information.


True, modern gauges go through the ECU. However if you know how to read
a gauge they are much better than any idiot light. Any delay is in terms
of milliseconds and any averaging is just to make it easier to see what
is going on. Most folks wouldn't know what a moving needle indicated
anyway.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



DougW 05-22-2004 08:00 PM

Re: Jeep factory gauges
 
Kevin did pass the time by typing:
> I was reading a jeep board that pointed out the factory installed gauges
> in Jeeps are not much better than idiot lights. It seems you are not
> getting the information the sender actually sends, because the inputs
> from the sender are filtered and averaged by the computer. So the
> factory gauges are not providing real time information.


True, modern gauges go through the ECU. However if you know how to read
a gauge they are much better than any idiot light. Any delay is in terms
of milliseconds and any averaging is just to make it easier to see what
is going on. Most folks wouldn't know what a moving needle indicated
anyway.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



DougW 05-22-2004 08:00 PM

Re: Jeep factory gauges
 
Kevin did pass the time by typing:
> I was reading a jeep board that pointed out the factory installed gauges
> in Jeeps are not much better than idiot lights. It seems you are not
> getting the information the sender actually sends, because the inputs
> from the sender are filtered and averaged by the computer. So the
> factory gauges are not providing real time information.


True, modern gauges go through the ECU. However if you know how to read
a gauge they are much better than any idiot light. Any delay is in terms
of milliseconds and any averaging is just to make it easier to see what
is going on. Most folks wouldn't know what a moving needle indicated
anyway.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



Kevin 05-23-2004 11:34 AM

Re: Jeep factory gauges
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
> I believe the gauges from any new car manufacturer to be
> inaccurate, but they're going to be in the ball park, satisfying most of
> us. If you value your machine like most Hot Rodders, than supplement
> them with Real gauges from http://www.stewartwarner.com/ or
> http://www.autometer.com/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>


What do you think about these gauges ?
> www.mitchellproducts.com/
>




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