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bllsht 11-24-2006 07:52 PM

Re: Jeep engine or Jeep engine History questions.
 
Yes, it is the AMC 2.5L four in the Dakota. It's a shortened 258.


On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 10:25:55 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>OK, I know this has been discussed before, but someone hit me with a new
>one that I question.
>
>This entity is saying that the 96-98 Dodge Dakota uses the 'AMC' 4
>cylinder engine so that bell housing, clutch and slave and tranny will
>bolt right up to a 95 YJ 4 banger.
>
>They also state the 'AMC' 4 banger is really a 232 with 2 cylinders
>chopped off. I have heard this, but don't know if it is valid.
>
>Anyone have any links I can read and pass on if needed?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page


bllsht 11-24-2006 07:52 PM

Re: Jeep engine or Jeep engine History questions.
 
Yes, it is the AMC 2.5L four in the Dakota. It's a shortened 258.


On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 10:25:55 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>OK, I know this has been discussed before, but someone hit me with a new
>one that I question.
>
>This entity is saying that the 96-98 Dodge Dakota uses the 'AMC' 4
>cylinder engine so that bell housing, clutch and slave and tranny will
>bolt right up to a 95 YJ 4 banger.
>
>They also state the 'AMC' 4 banger is really a 232 with 2 cylinders
>chopped off. I have heard this, but don't know if it is valid.
>
>Anyone have any links I can read and pass on if needed?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page


bllsht 11-24-2006 07:52 PM

Re: Jeep engine or Jeep engine History questions.
 
Yes, it is the AMC 2.5L four in the Dakota. It's a shortened 258.


On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 10:25:55 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>OK, I know this has been discussed before, but someone hit me with a new
>one that I question.
>
>This entity is saying that the 96-98 Dodge Dakota uses the 'AMC' 4
>cylinder engine so that bell housing, clutch and slave and tranny will
>bolt right up to a 95 YJ 4 banger.
>
>They also state the 'AMC' 4 banger is really a 232 with 2 cylinders
>chopped off. I have heard this, but don't know if it is valid.
>
>Anyone have any links I can read and pass on if needed?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page


bllsht 11-24-2006 08:03 PM

Re: Jeep engine or Jeep engine History questions.
 
The GM 4 cyl went away in '84 and was replaced by the AMC 4.

Your math would only work if they used the same bore & stroke.


On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 08:03:00 -0800, "Jeff Strickland"
<crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote:

>MY recollection is that the 4-banger is the old GM Iron Duke, which is the
>inline 6 with two chopped off. Having said that, the math does not work out
>quite right. divide 232 by 6 then multiply the result by 4. The answer is
>closer to 155 than 151.
>
>It makes sense that DC would put the same 4 into a Dakota that it put into
>the Jeep, but I have no knowledge that they actually did that.
>
>
>
>
>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>news:45670F03.2DFC94C3@sympatico.ca...
>> OK, I know this has been discussed before, but someone hit me with a new
>> one that I question.
>>
>> This entity is saying that the 96-98 Dodge Dakota uses the 'AMC' 4
>> cylinder engine so that bell housing, clutch and slave and tranny will
>> bolt right up to a 95 YJ 4 banger.
>>
>> They also state the 'AMC' 4 banger is really a 232 with 2 cylinders
>> chopped off. I have heard this, but don't know if it is valid.
>>
>> Anyone have any links I can read and pass on if needed?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page


bllsht 11-24-2006 08:03 PM

Re: Jeep engine or Jeep engine History questions.
 
The GM 4 cyl went away in '84 and was replaced by the AMC 4.

Your math would only work if they used the same bore & stroke.


On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 08:03:00 -0800, "Jeff Strickland"
<crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote:

>MY recollection is that the 4-banger is the old GM Iron Duke, which is the
>inline 6 with two chopped off. Having said that, the math does not work out
>quite right. divide 232 by 6 then multiply the result by 4. The answer is
>closer to 155 than 151.
>
>It makes sense that DC would put the same 4 into a Dakota that it put into
>the Jeep, but I have no knowledge that they actually did that.
>
>
>
>
>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>news:45670F03.2DFC94C3@sympatico.ca...
>> OK, I know this has been discussed before, but someone hit me with a new
>> one that I question.
>>
>> This entity is saying that the 96-98 Dodge Dakota uses the 'AMC' 4
>> cylinder engine so that bell housing, clutch and slave and tranny will
>> bolt right up to a 95 YJ 4 banger.
>>
>> They also state the 'AMC' 4 banger is really a 232 with 2 cylinders
>> chopped off. I have heard this, but don't know if it is valid.
>>
>> Anyone have any links I can read and pass on if needed?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page


bllsht 11-24-2006 08:03 PM

Re: Jeep engine or Jeep engine History questions.
 
The GM 4 cyl went away in '84 and was replaced by the AMC 4.

Your math would only work if they used the same bore & stroke.


On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 08:03:00 -0800, "Jeff Strickland"
<crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote:

>MY recollection is that the 4-banger is the old GM Iron Duke, which is the
>inline 6 with two chopped off. Having said that, the math does not work out
>quite right. divide 232 by 6 then multiply the result by 4. The answer is
>closer to 155 than 151.
>
>It makes sense that DC would put the same 4 into a Dakota that it put into
>the Jeep, but I have no knowledge that they actually did that.
>
>
>
>
>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>news:45670F03.2DFC94C3@sympatico.ca...
>> OK, I know this has been discussed before, but someone hit me with a new
>> one that I question.
>>
>> This entity is saying that the 96-98 Dodge Dakota uses the 'AMC' 4
>> cylinder engine so that bell housing, clutch and slave and tranny will
>> bolt right up to a 95 YJ 4 banger.
>>
>> They also state the 'AMC' 4 banger is really a 232 with 2 cylinders
>> chopped off. I have heard this, but don't know if it is valid.
>>
>> Anyone have any links I can read and pass on if needed?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page


billy ray 11-24-2006 08:37 PM

Re: Jeep engine or Jeep engine History questions.
 
Engine info
http://wagoneers.com/XJ/tech/XJmotors.html


"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:jpK9h.47376$39.39477@southeast.rr.com...
> Seems like we went through this a while back.
>
> As I recall AMC decided they needed a 4cyl engine of their own, so they
> took the 232/258 six, lopped off two cylinders, redesigned the head so it
> would flow better and that was the four. They then modified the old six
> and used a six cylinder version of the new head to create the 4.0 that we
> know so well. Last time we had this discussion I looked it up and for
> what it's worth the AMC 4 cyl and the 4.0 6 use the same valves.
>
> What DC put in a Dodge I have NO idea.
>
> What do the parts books say about the part numbers for those clutch pieces
> for a 4 cyl Dodge and a 4 cyl Jeep?
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> OK, I know this has been discussed before, but someone hit me with a new
>> one that I question.
>>
>> This entity is saying that the 96-98 Dodge Dakota uses the 'AMC' 4
>> cylinder engine so that bell housing, clutch and slave and tranny will
>> bolt right up to a 95 YJ 4 banger.
>>
>> They also state the 'AMC' 4 banger is really a 232 with 2 cylinders
>> chopped off. I have heard this, but don't know if it is valid.
>>
>> Anyone have any links I can read and pass on if needed?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page




billy ray 11-24-2006 08:37 PM

Re: Jeep engine or Jeep engine History questions.
 
Engine info
http://wagoneers.com/XJ/tech/XJmotors.html


"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:jpK9h.47376$39.39477@southeast.rr.com...
> Seems like we went through this a while back.
>
> As I recall AMC decided they needed a 4cyl engine of their own, so they
> took the 232/258 six, lopped off two cylinders, redesigned the head so it
> would flow better and that was the four. They then modified the old six
> and used a six cylinder version of the new head to create the 4.0 that we
> know so well. Last time we had this discussion I looked it up and for
> what it's worth the AMC 4 cyl and the 4.0 6 use the same valves.
>
> What DC put in a Dodge I have NO idea.
>
> What do the parts books say about the part numbers for those clutch pieces
> for a 4 cyl Dodge and a 4 cyl Jeep?
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> OK, I know this has been discussed before, but someone hit me with a new
>> one that I question.
>>
>> This entity is saying that the 96-98 Dodge Dakota uses the 'AMC' 4
>> cylinder engine so that bell housing, clutch and slave and tranny will
>> bolt right up to a 95 YJ 4 banger.
>>
>> They also state the 'AMC' 4 banger is really a 232 with 2 cylinders
>> chopped off. I have heard this, but don't know if it is valid.
>>
>> Anyone have any links I can read and pass on if needed?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page




billy ray 11-24-2006 08:37 PM

Re: Jeep engine or Jeep engine History questions.
 
Engine info
http://wagoneers.com/XJ/tech/XJmotors.html


"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:jpK9h.47376$39.39477@southeast.rr.com...
> Seems like we went through this a while back.
>
> As I recall AMC decided they needed a 4cyl engine of their own, so they
> took the 232/258 six, lopped off two cylinders, redesigned the head so it
> would flow better and that was the four. They then modified the old six
> and used a six cylinder version of the new head to create the 4.0 that we
> know so well. Last time we had this discussion I looked it up and for
> what it's worth the AMC 4 cyl and the 4.0 6 use the same valves.
>
> What DC put in a Dodge I have NO idea.
>
> What do the parts books say about the part numbers for those clutch pieces
> for a 4 cyl Dodge and a 4 cyl Jeep?
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> OK, I know this has been discussed before, but someone hit me with a new
>> one that I question.
>>
>> This entity is saying that the 96-98 Dodge Dakota uses the 'AMC' 4
>> cylinder engine so that bell housing, clutch and slave and tranny will
>> bolt right up to a 95 YJ 4 banger.
>>
>> They also state the 'AMC' 4 banger is really a 232 with 2 cylinders
>> chopped off. I have heard this, but don't know if it is valid.
>>
>> Anyone have any links I can read and pass on if needed?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page





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