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Kevin S. 07-15-2004 04:59 PM

Jeep Commander Concept
 
http://www.motortrendautoshows.com/c...commander.html

The Jeep Commander is a combination of the industry's most advanced
powertrain with one of the fastest growing market segments - the SUV. The
Commander uses fuel cells to generate electricity to power two EPIC minivan
electric motors that provide full-time, four-wheel-drive. The body of the
Commander is designed with carbon fiber, simulating the injection molded
plastic that would be used in production. The molded-in-color plastic
technology is used to compensate for the extra weight of the 2,100-pound
fuel-cell powertrain. It saves up to 50 percent in body weight, 10 to 50
percent in manufacturing costs and is nearly 100 percent recyclable. The
Commander sits two inches lower than the 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee, but has a
suspension that can be raised four inches for off-road driving. It is also
over seven inches wider, allowing for a massive center storage console in
the front of the Commander and three-across bucket seats in the rear.
Exterior features include a retractable roof rack and a spoiler that deploys
from the roof at high speeds. Inside, a small laptop computer can dock into
the center console to provide global positioning system data, internet
access, phone e-mail, and vehicle diagnostic information. For security
purposes, a tiny camera is located in the instrument panel to photograph a
thief and electronically send the picture to authorities.



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-15-2004 05:31 PM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
My Mom had a golf cart that looked like a Rolles Royce, too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Kevin S." wrote:
><snip>


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-15-2004 05:31 PM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
My Mom had a golf cart that looked like a Rolles Royce, too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Kevin S." wrote:
><snip>


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-15-2004 05:31 PM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
My Mom had a golf cart that looked like a Rolles Royce, too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Kevin S." wrote:
><snip>


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-15-2004 05:31 PM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
My Mom had a golf cart that looked like a Rolles Royce, too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Kevin S." wrote:
><snip>


Dave Milne 07-15-2004 06:05 PM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
I dont think the Commander is as good looking as a Rolls actually :-)

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:40F6F7A2.6DD2FCDF@cox.net...
> My Mom had a golf cart that looked like a Rolles Royce, too.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Kevin S." wrote:
> ><snip>




Dave Milne 07-15-2004 06:05 PM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
I dont think the Commander is as good looking as a Rolls actually :-)

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:40F6F7A2.6DD2FCDF@cox.net...
> My Mom had a golf cart that looked like a Rolles Royce, too.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Kevin S." wrote:
> ><snip>




Dave Milne 07-15-2004 06:05 PM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
I dont think the Commander is as good looking as a Rolls actually :-)

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:40F6F7A2.6DD2FCDF@cox.net...
> My Mom had a golf cart that looked like a Rolles Royce, too.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Kevin S." wrote:
> ><snip>




Dave Milne 07-15-2004 06:05 PM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
I dont think the Commander is as good looking as a Rolls actually :-)

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:40F6F7A2.6DD2FCDF@cox.net...
> My Mom had a golf cart that looked like a Rolles Royce, too.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Kevin S." wrote:
> ><snip>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-15-2004 06:11 PM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
And with the extra ton of batteries, they probably won't them drive
on the greens either.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I dont think the Commander is as good looking as a Rolls actually :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-15-2004 06:11 PM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
And with the extra ton of batteries, they probably won't them drive
on the greens either.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I dont think the Commander is as good looking as a Rolls actually :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-15-2004 06:11 PM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
And with the extra ton of batteries, they probably won't them drive
on the greens either.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I dont think the Commander is as good looking as a Rolls actually :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-15-2004 06:11 PM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
And with the extra ton of batteries, they probably won't them drive
on the greens either.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I dont think the Commander is as good looking as a Rolls actually :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ


Kevin S. 07-15-2004 06:30 PM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
Get your special order in early Bill......

Afterall they are compensating for the battery weight by making it out of "
injection molded
plastic".



Kevin S. 07-15-2004 06:30 PM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
Get your special order in early Bill......

Afterall they are compensating for the battery weight by making it out of "
injection molded
plastic".



Kevin S. 07-15-2004 06:30 PM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
Get your special order in early Bill......

Afterall they are compensating for the battery weight by making it out of "
injection molded
plastic".



Kevin S. 07-15-2004 06:30 PM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
Get your special order in early Bill......

Afterall they are compensating for the battery weight by making it out of "
injection molded
plastic".



Matt 07-16-2004 09:08 AM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<40F70112.8A8D968D@cox.net>...
> And with the extra ton of batteries, they probably won't them drive
> on the greens either.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>



I'd only buy one if they make a diesel (I'M KIDDING!)

My brother-in-law's Prius (he calls it the Priapism) just took a
fatal, trade-the-car-back-in-level dump after 3 months. It'll be a
LONG time before they ever come close to working all the inherent
problems out of this hair-brained idea. Make the Commander with a
cast-iron 6 of any sort in it and it would seem pretty cool!

Matt

Matt 07-16-2004 09:08 AM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<40F70112.8A8D968D@cox.net>...
> And with the extra ton of batteries, they probably won't them drive
> on the greens either.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>



I'd only buy one if they make a diesel (I'M KIDDING!)

My brother-in-law's Prius (he calls it the Priapism) just took a
fatal, trade-the-car-back-in-level dump after 3 months. It'll be a
LONG time before they ever come close to working all the inherent
problems out of this hair-brained idea. Make the Commander with a
cast-iron 6 of any sort in it and it would seem pretty cool!

Matt

Matt 07-16-2004 09:08 AM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<40F70112.8A8D968D@cox.net>...
> And with the extra ton of batteries, they probably won't them drive
> on the greens either.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>



I'd only buy one if they make a diesel (I'M KIDDING!)

My brother-in-law's Prius (he calls it the Priapism) just took a
fatal, trade-the-car-back-in-level dump after 3 months. It'll be a
LONG time before they ever come close to working all the inherent
problems out of this hair-brained idea. Make the Commander with a
cast-iron 6 of any sort in it and it would seem pretty cool!

Matt

Matt 07-16-2004 09:08 AM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<40F70112.8A8D968D@cox.net>...
> And with the extra ton of batteries, they probably won't them drive
> on the greens either.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>



I'd only buy one if they make a diesel (I'M KIDDING!)

My brother-in-law's Prius (he calls it the Priapism) just took a
fatal, trade-the-car-back-in-level dump after 3 months. It'll be a
LONG time before they ever come close to working all the inherent
problems out of this hair-brained idea. Make the Commander with a
cast-iron 6 of any sort in it and it would seem pretty cool!

Matt

John Davies 07-16-2004 10:39 AM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
On 16 Jul 2004 06:08:26 -0700, mhammer8@yahoo.com (Matt) wrote:

>My brother-in-law's Prius (he calls it the Priapism) just took a
>fatal, trade-the-car-back-in-level dump after 3 months. It'll be a
>LONG time before they ever come close to working all the inherent
>problems out of this hair-brained idea. Make the Commander with a
>cast-iron 6 of any sort in it and it would seem pretty cool!


So what happened to the Prius? My sister is interested in one and I
can't talk her out of it. One of the points I made was the lack of a
clean track record for the new technology, and the problem with
getting service at any place other than the Toyota dealer.



John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA

John Davies 07-16-2004 10:39 AM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
On 16 Jul 2004 06:08:26 -0700, mhammer8@yahoo.com (Matt) wrote:

>My brother-in-law's Prius (he calls it the Priapism) just took a
>fatal, trade-the-car-back-in-level dump after 3 months. It'll be a
>LONG time before they ever come close to working all the inherent
>problems out of this hair-brained idea. Make the Commander with a
>cast-iron 6 of any sort in it and it would seem pretty cool!


So what happened to the Prius? My sister is interested in one and I
can't talk her out of it. One of the points I made was the lack of a
clean track record for the new technology, and the problem with
getting service at any place other than the Toyota dealer.



John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA

John Davies 07-16-2004 10:39 AM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
On 16 Jul 2004 06:08:26 -0700, mhammer8@yahoo.com (Matt) wrote:

>My brother-in-law's Prius (he calls it the Priapism) just took a
>fatal, trade-the-car-back-in-level dump after 3 months. It'll be a
>LONG time before they ever come close to working all the inherent
>problems out of this hair-brained idea. Make the Commander with a
>cast-iron 6 of any sort in it and it would seem pretty cool!


So what happened to the Prius? My sister is interested in one and I
can't talk her out of it. One of the points I made was the lack of a
clean track record for the new technology, and the problem with
getting service at any place other than the Toyota dealer.



John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA

John Davies 07-16-2004 10:39 AM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
On 16 Jul 2004 06:08:26 -0700, mhammer8@yahoo.com (Matt) wrote:

>My brother-in-law's Prius (he calls it the Priapism) just took a
>fatal, trade-the-car-back-in-level dump after 3 months. It'll be a
>LONG time before they ever come close to working all the inherent
>problems out of this hair-brained idea. Make the Commander with a
>cast-iron 6 of any sort in it and it would seem pretty cool!


So what happened to the Prius? My sister is interested in one and I
can't talk her out of it. One of the points I made was the lack of a
clean track record for the new technology, and the problem with
getting service at any place other than the Toyota dealer.



John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA

Matt 07-16-2004 03:02 PM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
> So what happened to the Prius? My sister is interested in one and I
> can't talk her out of it. One of the points I made was the lack of a
> clean track record for the new technology, and the problem with
> getting service at any place other than the Toyota dealer.
>
>
>
> John Davies
> http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> '96 Lexus LX450
> '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> Spokane WA USA


I've gotta say, it was a really cool car when it worked. You only have
to have the key in your pocket and it knows who you are to start it.
Even the Toyota dealer couldn't diagnose the problem. They took it and
gave them a new one (great customer service at least) and were sending
it to a district lab or something to check out. When they were
driving, the car would just go dead, like unplugging a toy. Temp and
everything were normal; the power source just stopped dead for no
reason at random times. It has a little monitor that tells you what %
of power is coming from the battery and what % from the engine, etc.
It just kept happening even at different settings, like a faulty power
supply in a computer, until finally they couldn't start it/run it
again. The Toyota guys were baffled too. For it only being 3 months
old, big warning sign! I don't care what goes wrong with a regular
engine, somebody has seen or heard about the problem. It's scary when
the folks who built it don't even know.

Matt

Matt 07-16-2004 03:02 PM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
> So what happened to the Prius? My sister is interested in one and I
> can't talk her out of it. One of the points I made was the lack of a
> clean track record for the new technology, and the problem with
> getting service at any place other than the Toyota dealer.
>
>
>
> John Davies
> http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> '96 Lexus LX450
> '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> Spokane WA USA


I've gotta say, it was a really cool car when it worked. You only have
to have the key in your pocket and it knows who you are to start it.
Even the Toyota dealer couldn't diagnose the problem. They took it and
gave them a new one (great customer service at least) and were sending
it to a district lab or something to check out. When they were
driving, the car would just go dead, like unplugging a toy. Temp and
everything were normal; the power source just stopped dead for no
reason at random times. It has a little monitor that tells you what %
of power is coming from the battery and what % from the engine, etc.
It just kept happening even at different settings, like a faulty power
supply in a computer, until finally they couldn't start it/run it
again. The Toyota guys were baffled too. For it only being 3 months
old, big warning sign! I don't care what goes wrong with a regular
engine, somebody has seen or heard about the problem. It's scary when
the folks who built it don't even know.

Matt

Matt 07-16-2004 03:02 PM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
> So what happened to the Prius? My sister is interested in one and I
> can't talk her out of it. One of the points I made was the lack of a
> clean track record for the new technology, and the problem with
> getting service at any place other than the Toyota dealer.
>
>
>
> John Davies
> http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> '96 Lexus LX450
> '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> Spokane WA USA


I've gotta say, it was a really cool car when it worked. You only have
to have the key in your pocket and it knows who you are to start it.
Even the Toyota dealer couldn't diagnose the problem. They took it and
gave them a new one (great customer service at least) and were sending
it to a district lab or something to check out. When they were
driving, the car would just go dead, like unplugging a toy. Temp and
everything were normal; the power source just stopped dead for no
reason at random times. It has a little monitor that tells you what %
of power is coming from the battery and what % from the engine, etc.
It just kept happening even at different settings, like a faulty power
supply in a computer, until finally they couldn't start it/run it
again. The Toyota guys were baffled too. For it only being 3 months
old, big warning sign! I don't care what goes wrong with a regular
engine, somebody has seen or heard about the problem. It's scary when
the folks who built it don't even know.

Matt

Matt 07-16-2004 03:02 PM

Re: Jeep Commander Concept
 
> So what happened to the Prius? My sister is interested in one and I
> can't talk her out of it. One of the points I made was the lack of a
> clean track record for the new technology, and the problem with
> getting service at any place other than the Toyota dealer.
>
>
>
> John Davies
> http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> '96 Lexus LX450
> '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> Spokane WA USA


I've gotta say, it was a really cool car when it worked. You only have
to have the key in your pocket and it knows who you are to start it.
Even the Toyota dealer couldn't diagnose the problem. They took it and
gave them a new one (great customer service at least) and were sending
it to a district lab or something to check out. When they were
driving, the car would just go dead, like unplugging a toy. Temp and
everything were normal; the power source just stopped dead for no
reason at random times. It has a little monitor that tells you what %
of power is coming from the battery and what % from the engine, etc.
It just kept happening even at different settings, like a faulty power
supply in a computer, until finally they couldn't start it/run it
again. The Toyota guys were baffled too. For it only being 3 months
old, big warning sign! I don't care what goes wrong with a regular
engine, somebody has seen or heard about the problem. It's scary when
the folks who built it don't even know.

Matt


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